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Refugees August 13, 2004 12:39 AM

Has our government handled refugess appropriately? Are we at risk of a flood of refugees if we leave the door open, or is the government just playing on our ignorant fears? Is someone really a refugee if they make it all the way from the middle east to our shores, or could they have found a safe haven much easier somewhere closer to home? Is 'queue jumper' an unfair term? Should we allow more immigration?  [ send green star]
 September 10, 2004 6:29 PM

well i dont live in australia but feel we will all must open doors to refugees. our world is now one, no wall, no boundaries and soon no borders.. we are simply in the infancy stages of becoming an interplanetarian family. So the quicker we adjust to allowing all peoples to come together, the less we will have to be forced in my humble opinion is inevitable. joy angel  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 September 12, 2004 5:51 AM

Our government has not by any stretch of the imagination dealt with the "refugee situation" at all well. Firstly, the UN Declaration of Human Rights, which Australia is a signatory to, states that EVERY person has the right to seek asylum from an intolerable situation, anywhere, and that to do so is not a crime. Of course, our government started complaining that we were being invaded by illegals...despite that in the average year, no more than 500 people arrive. We do, however have tens of thousands of true illegal immigrants in Australia at any one time...all those tourists/backpackers, the majority of whom are English or American, who have overstayed on their tourist visas...but do we see them being packed off to Villawood, or Marybynong, or Woomera? Of course not... The other thing the government tries not to publicise is the fact that on average, the vast majority of asylum seekers are found to be legitimate refugees...if you want specifics, go to the Department of Immigration website, and it will give you a rundown of every boat that came in, the number of people on board, and the percentages of people who were permitted to stay. I could go on and on about this all night, but if you have any specific questions, I am sure I can find you some answers.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
Refugees December 02, 2004 10:41 PM

I believe that people who "queue jump" or "boat people" as they are most commonly known should be detained and deported. I support refugees that arrive in Australia the appropriate way, filing legal papers, getting passports. I don't beleive that boat people should be allowed to jump the queue and be allowed to stay in Australia.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 December 02, 2004 11:01 PM

A refugee is a queue jumper by definition. They cannot go through the normal channels and do the paperwork. The term queue jumper was dreamt up by someone who wanted to give people a negative impression of true refugees in order to support policies like the mandatory detention of true refugees. I think Australia only accepts skilled migrants or relatives of citizens via the mnormal immigration channels anyway.  [ send green star]
 December 03, 2004 9:39 AM

Furthermore, given that there is no "queue" for people seeking asylum to register with, they can not be seen as queue jumping. Given that some 90% of, as you describe it, "queue jumpers" are found to have legitimate cause and are granted refugee status, your desire to deport them means that people who are in need of refuge won't receive the help, to which under international law, they are entitled to.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 December 05, 2004 3:44 PM

I get the impression that our refugee policy is a black mark against our name internationally.  [ send green star]
 December 05, 2004 8:14 PM

I agree, especially when it has been proved that there are other ways of dealing with it more humanely and effectively.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
been there February 09, 2005 11:44 AM

My mother (an australian) fell in love and married a refugee from Colombia who had fled his country after having lived through countless murder atempts for actively showing his support for a political party similar to the australian greens.

He was thrown out of Australia, after numerous atempts at a visa. My mother and I left everything we owned plus our family and friends and school to follow him to Colombia.

Now we are waiting and have been waiting for two years for the visa application to be processed. We have had to overcome, money problems, safty issues (as Colombia is still a war zone), we have had to adjust to being alone. Although Colombia is a wonderful place this experience has been anything but easy.

Thus in John Howard deporting one man two Australian citizens have also had to leave. It is popular opinion that Refugees come to Australia to live off our services, and what we don't realise is that the few refugees who are allowed into Australia each year are the people who keep our Country so multicultural and open minded. Don't you think it's funny that thousands of N.Z, British and North Americans are let into Australia each year? many of them live in Australia recieving health care & education without a visa or australian passport. Don't you think it's funny that these people are all white?

My uncle recently married a North American, in less than two months her visa application had been accepted. She's white.

The argument is that Australia will become over populated... here are some figures of Australia's area and population compared with Colombia (which is in no way over populated):

Colombia's area: 1,138,910 square kilometers.

Colombia's population: 42 million.

Australia's area: 7,617,930 sq km

Australia's population: almost 20 million

Are we really in danger of becomeing over populated? Would our population really matter if we were giving young children the chance at a new life that involves food and education.

Sorry i got carried away...

annie taylor

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 February 10, 2005 1:28 AM

You are perfectly right...despite the fact that we supposedly no longer practice the old White Australia policy, cases like yours show that it is still on practice.

I'm sorry that you are having to deal with all of this.

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 February 10, 2005 7:38 AM

i can;t complain, what happened was corrupt and its sad to see it happening in a wonderful place like australia...but the chance it gave me to learn a new language, meet new people, and see great places at only 14 was amazing...but it doesn't change the fact that what our government is doing is wrong.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 February 11, 2005 6:39 PM

Just a few comments re refugees. firstly I would welcome any genunine refugee to this country but I would like to be assured that they are not a criminal nor a carrier of some deadly disease....... and to say there is no queue is not correct. The people who land on our shores are not coming from the country they are fleeing from. They come fron a country like Indonesia where they board boats and come into this country before they are processed, jumping ahead of those who are going through the propper {queue} channels....

One other thing. To compare the number of people a country can support by comparing the area of land is not valid....There is a wide body of educated opinion which holds that because Australia is such an arid land we are already overpopulated!   So How many people columbia can support and feed is immaterial.....


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