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Global Government March 13, 2006 7:18 PM

We need some form of global government to deal with the following issues:

  • fishing, boat traffic and piracy in international waters
  • extraction of fresh water from rivers that cross national boundaries
  • cross-border pollution, especially air pollution
  • peacekeeping
  • control of multinational companies, especially in poor nations that do not have an adequate government to prevent exploitation of citizens
  • etc (please add to this list)

Such a government will probably arise out of the UN. I imagine a senate style government with representatives from each country, where the voting power held by each member is proportional to the number of people they represent - provided there is a functioning democratic structure that put them in place.

Eventually we could move on to a system with a number of members from each of the larger countries (roughly proportional to population) and a minimum of one member from smaller countries. This would require that the members from larger countries be directly elected rather than appointed by their respective national government.

Currently there is nothing to stop large businesses going into third world countries, extracting resources and not paying a fair amount to the citizens of that country, who ultimately own the resource. All they have to do is pay (bribe) the local government or militia enough.

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Good idea..... in Theory.... Freediver March 13, 2006 8:04 PM


Trouble is the Large Countries (by population) who have Orthodox Capitalism as a major part of their system will probably let their representatives get Elected from amoung the "Big Businessmen". Thus it would probably be hard for a smaller Nation to protect their environmental etc... concerns (as they would be out-voted everytime)
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 March 13, 2006 8:07 PM

Of course it would be open to manipulation, but it would be better than nothing, or almost nothing which is what we have now. Those same 'capitalist' people are the ones calling the shots now - the difference is there is no democratic mechanism to hold them accountable.  [ send green star]
 
 March 14, 2006 7:07 PM

I am not sure UN is all that democratic. and while they could draw up treaties regarding waters and fishing, as with most of their treaties, would be unable to enforce.

There is nothing i would love to see more than a true global organization to ensure human rights for all, fair economic trades, environmental policing. But i think it is going to take each nation taking global responsibility. a total change of thinking.
we are no longer isolated, independant nations. we are now interdependant on each other. economically, environmentally, communications, banking; if one nation has problem with any of these we all suffer.
Will we ever be able to put aside petty differences, realize we are more alike then different? That our neighborhoods now include africa, russia, iraq, not just our small piece of the earth.
not just each nation taking global responsibility but each individual. or we all pay the high cost. when the environment is shot to hell and we are all starving and millions of lives lost due to changing climate it will be too late.

our biggest obstecle is religion. man has so perverted the teachings of islam, judism, chrisitanity in order to control the money and power that we forget we all came from the same tree. orginally all three lived side by side in peace- nothing more than different thoughts on same teachings. if religion would return to its true self we could do away with war (for all condem war and killing), hunger/homelessness (all teach to care for the poor), environmental destruction (for all teach respect and care for the earth). They all three also speak of seperation of government and religion. (render unto ceaser what is ceasers and what is gods to god.) i only speak of those three cause i know nothing of any of the religions inflecting war, bigotry, genecide. or creating anything that is destructive to the earth.

ok totally forgot where i was headed with this tirade. other then to tirade. so goodnight.
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 March 14, 2006 7:35 PM

Where will the Bilderberg meeting be this Spring?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Unnecessary and Undesirable August 22, 2006 9:07 AM

At the national level, virtually all governments claim too much power over the lives of their citizens.  Any "global government" formed in this political climate would likely have the same problem, making people in free countries less free. 

Issues affecting all countries should be dealt with through bodies like the UN.  Issues involving a smaller number of countries should be dealt with by the involved countries, possibly using the UN, but being careful not to allow unaffected countries to interfere.  Control of multinationals rests with the governments under which they operate.  If a poor nation does not have a good government that ensures just compensation to its people, then that government (or lack of govrernment) is the problem, and can be fixed without creating a more powerful world government, which will negatively affect areas that are already well-governed.  Other countries in which a multinational operates can take action against it if the abuses are not stopped.

Peacekeeping is something that the UN can already do, but allegations of abuse by peacekeepers show that reforms need to be made before we consider extending this power.

There should be no world government, and national governments should be weakened to prevent abuses of citizens' rights and military aggression against other countries.
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 August 22, 2006 6:04 PM

If a poor nation does not have a good government that ensures just compensation to its people, then that government (or lack of govrernment) is the problem, and can be fixed without creating a more powerful world government

How can it be fixed?

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I'm sorry it took so long to respond, Freediver. September 02, 2006 10:59 AM

What I meant in the part of my argument that you questioned was that the poorly-governed nation needs a new (or substantially improved) government.  How this government would come into existence depends on the particular case; generally, I believe that the people of the nation should control how they are governed, and that the change should happen with as little violence and outside intervention as possible. 

Another way to solve the problem of a multinational corporation or other entity exploiting people in one country is for the governments and people of its home country and other host countries to take some action against it.  A world government is not required for this.
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