Hi Maria. Nog een Nederlander.
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Hello my name is Maria and I live in the Netherlands. I saw this group in the profile of another group member. I am very new to care2, so I trying to learn. I think it is very interesting in discussing and learning about what is driving the world... money.
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Maria
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Official opening day!!! Today we opened the gates to what we hope will be quite an experience for both our members and ourselves.
The second treatment with the B-R folks gave the info that the hypothyroid gland didn't get the THS hormone from the pineal gland, a hormone to release T3 and T4. This was in accordance with what the spouse found - that there really was no problem with the thyroid gland, but that it didn't get what it needed to function properly.
I have tested qi-gong and "the movements of the silk worm". I intend to take them up shortly again. I have been training jiu-jitsu in my youth and know how the body feels when it's in good shape.
Last summer we started to make several adjustments in the nutritional area, skipping additives, sodium salts and nitrates. We try to produce as much from scratch as possible. It both tastes better and feels more nutritious, even though lots of things from the store simply doesn't contain what they should anymore, like vitamin C in oranges. An organically grown and sun-ripened fruit contains lots of vitamin C, but the pseudo-oranges in the supermarket doesn't.
As soon as economically possible we will build a green-house to grow our own vegggies.
Well, I’m as healthy as a healthy ox, so let me tell you what to do 
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Ok, without kidding, alternative health systems often come out better when it are chronic disorders. I cannot advice you on the illness. I’m no doctor. I am a counsellor and tai chi trainer and did a lot of reading on alternative ways to deal with health.
I deal with disease in the simplest way possible. I try to strengthen and create awareness of the body and keep it clean with not too abusive food, and I listen to how someone thinks and treats him/herself and create some awareness in this territory. Emotion is energy – it comes from 'emovere': means 'coming into movement'. If I can learn people to use it as power, instead of being abused by it, I did a lot to improve their health, or their sense of health.
As personal trainer I combine sports: walking/running, martial arts, relaxation like qigong (breathing techniques, slow moving and meditative practices), silent meditation and talk, in nature. I seem to have a very good intuition in how far I can go with people (they are often not that physical, or mentally fit).
Creating awareness and giving new ways to deal with the body and mind is all I do. I want to help the body and the mind to heal themselves as far as possible. The rest I leave to the doctors.
I also have the problem that people need to pay for it out of their own pocket. That is the main reason why I kept it this simple. All I need is my knowledge, experience and nature.
Did you ever try something like tai chi, or qigong? These are very slow motion trainings that strengthen the muscles and quiet the mind. Qigong is more easy to learn then tai chi. It’s not for everyone. You check some of it out here if you like.
I can relate in some respects to your situation, I have seasonal affective disorder, I refuse anti-depressants as well, In the summer I am super woman, in the winter verging on homelessness if it weren't for my partner, but in the past two years vitamin D has made a big difference. Too late for my children who are now young adults they had a difficult childhood watching me spiral down each year. There is a psychiatrist here in Canada who associates all mental illness with vitamin deficiency his name is Dr Hoffer, he has quite a bit of info on the internet, he says that toxins and vitamin deficiency are the root of many illnesses. He is more or less the Doctor that the rest hate.
A few days ago I got in contact with the chief psychiatrist at the national hospital of the social security department. She's going to check a few things for me and get back later this week. It's one of my moms old cronies, so I'm pretty confident she'll keep her word.
The physician I used to have don't want to hear about all my ailments, and I'm tired of him not listening, as he can never put the right diagnose together as long as he doesn't listen. My hopes goes to this new guy, an old man from Denmark. They have a slightly different system there, and one of my hopes is that his "Danishness" will be good for my case.
I have a contact in a treatment centre here in the community I live, too. They have a contract with the county for treating long-time sick people. The county needs my doctor to state that I need this treatment, but my (former) doctor just said that he had never heard about them and all he wanted to do was to treat me for the depression - something that is hard as I refuse to eat anti-depressants... And the official at the social security office said they cannot send me if the doc doesn't support the treatment...
If my new doctor won't send me there either, the psyciatrist has promised me to send a letter to the county about this.
As things has been so extremely slow my spouse and I started to read and learn to understand things ourselves last summer. That is how we ended up with the theory that my main problems are IBS and hypothyroidea. In september I happened to be in a reiki course, where a professor of medicin from the most renowned research institute in Sweden were too. We sat side by side for two days, and he told me three things that were important to me; he had been doing research for years on anti-depressants and his opinion was that I should stay as far away from them as possible, he didn't see any signs of depression, and I got his card to contact him for further assistance.
In october the spouse and I visited a health fair and that is where I met the physician at the local treatment centre and had her blessings to get a ticket to her. I told my story and she said that she's afraid that is the way "treatment" is done nowadays in the county establishments. She would be glad to take care of me if I could get my doctor to send an admittance note - which he hasn't...
At the same fair was a couple who are alternative therapists. They use bio-resonance therapy. It's as close to forbidden as can be in Sweden, but supported by authorities in other countries. The pharmaceutical lobby is powerful in Sweden and they don't want anything to challenge their profits. This couple use a computer with electrodes to measure the meridians and the bio-electrical body, and get lots of results in mere minutes. It took them two minutes to conclude that the main two problems I had were IBS and hypothyroidea. Yay!! So I have gone to them for treatment twice now, and will be back in two weeks again. I feel ten years younger, I can eat(!), my tummy hardly aches anymore, I have lost kilos of wheight, I can climb the stairs at home without taking a break etc. But this treatment isn't officially supported, so I have to pay every öre myself. But it works!
According to this therapist my immune system is down and out and I suffer from the worst form of both internal and external poisoning. My cells don't do what they are supposed to, and it will take a while to get my body up and running again, but it's do-able. During the worst times, one and two years ago, I was so weak I even had daily episodes of paralysis for 1-2 hours. It's as if the body shuts down completely. I am now so weak from not being able to move, that I'm exhausted from walking a few hundred metres, so I need assistance to get going again. Something I would get at the local treatment centre. Another reason for the bad condition is a car accident I had four years ago that still makes my knees hurt so much I can hardly walk downstairs. But that will eventally sort itself too.
Things are looking good so far. The interesting thing is how the new physician will take this, and how my new official at the social security office will handle my case (the ninth person to handle my case in three years. Yeah, continuity isn't at the top of their priorities). I am economically dependent on wel-fare as it is, and if they decide to change that, I might as well move to India or something, where living in the street is comparatively cheap and warm.
Sorry to hear that. What do you do about it, or deal with it?
'Bout the sickness - it's been going on for several years. It's hypothyroid and IBS, but I never seem to get the correct diagnose or treatment. "Depression" and talk about the need for me to eat anti-depressants are the current diagnose - has been for two years no. The two psycho-therapists who have seen be don't understand where the "depression" diagnose comes from, neither do my family or friends. "Whatever's wrong with you, Stella - it ain't depression" seems to be the most frequent sentence around here. I could write a novel about all this, but I won't .
Time to cook some dinner - it's movie-time out in the woods in an hour. We'll barely make it. CU!
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Sorry, I haven't been around. Work kept me busy. I've been reading a bit of the links. There is an awesome amount of information here.
I hope it is not a serious illness that keeps you home Stella, you have much to offer and I'm sure you are being missed terribly both for your itellect and warmth as well as your efficient work habits.
We are having some horrific weather here and my husband is making a 700 km journey in ice rain so I am a little preoccupied it is freezing rain the entire way, I said that already see what i mean. Pearson Airport in Toronto has cancelled all flights in and out, I'm just worried sick so please forgive my lack of participation.
Want to get away from the serious discussions for a while, just getting to know quirky stuff about people. Here's the place. Feel free to post any off-topic stuff you please here.
I might as well start by telling you about our kitten "Slas". He likes water. He even jumps into the wash basin and lies there waiting for someone to come and put on the water so he may play with it. He doesn't want a regular shower, but droplets or a small stream.
