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GENERALS RETIRE, SPEAK OUT: BLOGGERS SPEAK OUT EVEN MORE October 03, 2007 2:18 PM

Generals Opposing Iraq War Break with Military Tradition by Mark SauerThe generals acted independently, coming in their own ways to the agonizing decision to defy military tradition and publicly criticize the Bush administration over its conduct of the war in Iraq.

an opinion piece in The New York Times.

“I didn’t think my op-ed would be a big deal,” he said. “It certainly turned out to be otherwise.”

Eaton said he wrote the piece because he believed that three pillars of our democratic system had failed:

  • The Bush administration ignored alarms raised by him and other commanders on the ground;
  • the Republican-controlled Congress had failed to exercise oversight;
  • and the media had abdicated its watchdog role.

“As we look back, it appears that without realizing it, we were reacting to a constitutional crisis,” Eaton said in a recent interview.

Some of Eaton’s colleagues, both active and retired, endorsed his decision to speak out. Others thought he had stepped out of bounds. He became persona non grata with ethics instructors at the U.S. Military Academy, his alma mater.

Eaton said he has no regrets.

Maj. Gen. John Batiste, former commander of the First Infantry Division in Iraq, chronicled his painful journey from stalwart soldier to outspoken critic in a post on the political Web site Think Progress this month.

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FOLLOW UP ON THIS STORY BY GOING TO THE SITES POSTED October 03, 2007 2:22 PM

Once heralded by many military observers as headed for appointment to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Batiste began his journey of introspection after he retired with two stars in 2005.

The self-described arch-conservative and lifelong Republican made the “gut-wrenching” decision to end his 31-year military career in order to “speak out on behalf of soldiers and their families.”

“I had a moral obligation and a duty to do so,” Batiste wrote. “I have been speaking out for the past 17 months and there is no turning back.”

Code of silence

It is rare in U.S. history for even retired generals to step outside the chain of command and criticize the nation’s civilian leaders.

That was true even at the time of the unpopular Vietnam War.

Andrew Bacevich, a professor of history and international relations at Boston University, said several generals who served in Vietnam now regret they didn’t go public when it might have done the nation some good.

“That has encouraged generals today to voice their unhappiness,” Bacevich said.

“But that war was brief, it seemed to go very well and the generals’ comments were almost uniformly positive,” he said. “This war is very long, it has not gone well and that’s a main reason we’re hearing the voices we’re hearing.”

For retired Brig. Gen. John Johns, the decision to finally stand up against the administration was a deeply personal one.

“My wife lost her first husband in Vietnam,” said Johns, who taught leadership and ethics at West Point.

“To learn later that President Lyndon Johnson and (then-Secretary of Defense) Robert McNamara knew as early as 1965 that we could not win there, that hurts her deeply to this day.”

Six months before the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Johns, who retired in 1978, agonized over whether to go public with a paper calling the impending war “one of the great blunders of history.”

He sent it to retired Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni and to Pete McCloskey, the moderate-Republican former congressman from California who had opposed the Vietnam War.

“At that time, they did not want to go public,” Johns said.

Zinni has since become one of the most war’s most vociferous critics, and McClosky now calls for bringing the troops home.

“And I was not convinced that the invasion would not be stopped internally,” Johns said. “Zinni was close to (then-Secretary of State) Colin Powell; I believed sane heads would prevail.”

But Powell’s notoriously inaccurate speech to the United Nations in February 2003 “sealed the deal,” Johns said, and he knew the war was unstoppable. “I was very disappointed he did that. Powell was used.”

Many sleepless nights, long talks with his wife and solitary walks followed, said the veteran combat officer.

But Johns didn’t reach his tipping point until 2005, when a longtime friend, retired Lt. Gen. Robert Gard, invited him to discuss the war at tiny Hampden-Sydney College in Virginia.

“Four out of five of us retired military panelists there said it was a moral duty for us to speak out in a democracy against policies which you think are unwise,” Johns said. “The time was right.”

The lifelong Republican-leaning conservative joined a pair of liberal organizations opposed to the war and supported the Democrats’ call to get the United States out of Iraq.

“I appreciate those who hold to the old school of not speaking out,” said Johns, 79. “I hope they will appreciate my deeply held feelings that led to my decision to do so.”

Read the whole story here:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/22/4048/




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Comment #186 on the "Think Progress" Website October 03, 2007 2:28 PM


  1. WHAT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION?

    I have read that officers like General Batiste take this oath or one like it when originally commissioned and when advanced in rank.

    “Officer Oath: I, A.B., do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

    Officers do not swear or affirm to obey the orders of the president nor do they swear allegiance to the president. According to the supreme law of the land, the invasion and occupation of Iraq was a violation of the Constitution. Those in command had the duty to resist the order and its execution. Since the enlisted personnel’s oath includes in major part the duty to obey the commands of the president and their superior officers in addition to defending the Constitution, they had no recourse other than to rely on the loyalty of their officers to their sworn commitment. The officers did not and are not complying with their oath to protect and defend the Constitution by continuing the war, win, lose, or draw. Additionally they have the continuing duty to protect the troops from needless death or injury due to orders that violate our Constitution

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Comment #187 on the "Think Progress" Website October 03, 2007 2:34 PM

WHEN IS A WAR A WAR?

General Batiste said, “I am not anti-war and am committed to winning the struggle against world-wide Islamic extremism.”

It seems to me I have heard that song and dance before war - war against drugs, war against terrorism, and now war against Islamic extremism. Only Congress has the power to declare war but those who are framing the debate are willing to declare war against anything and everything.

Wars are between nations. A nation cannot declare war on a religion or a division thereof. Our military forces exist to defend this country from an imminent attack by a foreign nation. Ideologies, religions, and other belief systems are not nations. The military-industrial complex and the media that publishes their propaganda generally ignore the Constitutional definition of war, particularly the restrictions on the use of our armed forces.

Our military is not to be used other than as permitted by the Constitution. Our armed forces are not to be used to enhance the wealth or power of special interest groups or private enterprises. The refusal of a nation to accept our dictates is not an act or war. The use of armed forces does not make a police action a war.

Acts of terrorism do not make terrorists a nation. If terrorists or extremists are sponsored by a foreign nation are committing acts of war posing an imminent threat to the security of our country, ask Congress for a declaration of war and accept their decision.

So called wars against criminals or criminal activity or anything else Bush chooses to call evil will keep our armed forces in a state of “war” until we run out of men or credit, a no-win situation for the People notwithstanding the propaganda of the neocons and corporate America to the contrary.

Comment by Robert Castle — August 24, 2007 @ 4:35 pm

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CommonDreams.orgNewscenter hears from a Retired Colonel October 03, 2007 2:43 PM

JAG COL Ret September 24th, 2007 7:29 am

As only a retired colonel, I do not have the visibility my more senior colleagues have, but I and many of my fellow retired colonels with whom I associate have been uniformly and vocally opposed to the debacle in Iraq since before it was launched. By way of qualification for my views, I am a graduate of the US Military Academy, served as an armored cavalry officer in Vietnam, later became a JA officer, during which service I studied the law of war, and I served for a number of years as a Republican appointee in a state government executive position.

There is one aspect of the involvement in the war in Iraq by the Bush administration, and the all-too-likely involvement in the war in Iran to come, that has been overlooked by nearly all of the commentary. That aspect is the role of international law, particularly the application of the Nuremberg Principles which came out of the Nuremberg trials, over which Justice Jackson of the US Supreme Court presided. The Principles have been adopted by the United Nations, the charter of which the US was the first signatory. They are the authoritative international law on the matters they address. The principles that are relevant to this discussion are as follow:

“Principle III: The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible Government official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law.

”Principle IV: The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.

“Principle VI: The crimes hereinafter set out are punishable as crimes under international law:

(a) Crimes against peace:
(i) Planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression [emphasis added] or a war in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances;
(ii) Participation in a common plan or conspiracy for the accomplishment of any of the acts mentioned under (i).
. . . .
“Principle VII: Complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Principle VI is a crime under international law.”

A war of aggression is a war for a purpose other than to repel an invasion of your own country or another country. When the US and the Coalition of the Twisted Arms launched the invasion of Iraq in 2003, Iraq had not invaded any country, nor was it a threat to do so. Saddam was cooperating with the UN weapons inspectors, and the inspections were having success in confirming that there was no WMD threat. US and British combat aircraft had, since Gulf War I, patrolled Iraq’s skies at will, launching attacks at any misbehavior they saw. Not only was there no invasion to be repelled, there was no capacity nor will to launch one. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that the US and its few allies engaged in “[p]lanning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression. . . ,” in clear violation of the relevant international law. The same would be true of the prospective war on Iran, for which the administration is drumming daily.
It should be further remembered that the United States Constitution makes the Constitution and the treaties of the United States the supreme law of the land, and that the UN Charter is a treaty of the United States. Therefore, a violation of the Nuremberg Principles is a crime under both international and domestic law. At the very least, the principal perpetrators of the war in Iraq, and the likely war to come in Iran, are guilty of crimes against peace. As to the Iraq war, those people would include, at the very least, the President, Vice President and assorted senior officials such as Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Abrams, Feith, Luti and a number of lesser lights.
Speaking as a JAG officer advising military clients, I would remind the senior generals who may soon be faced with orders from their civilian superiors to plan, prepare for, initiate and wage a war of aggression against Iran that their oath is to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States, and that under Principle IV, set out above, an “order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.” Clearly, there is a moral choice for them – to oppose the decision, and if that fails within the system, to resign their commissions and to speak out in opposition.

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Very angry blogger responds to JAG COL October 03, 2007 2:49 PM

Natureboy September 24th, 2007 4:46 pm

Per Jag Col:
“Principle IV: The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him”.

Colonal, When/where are the tribunals starting?? What’s the delay? If the world’s public opinion and legal system is unable to muster the cajones to begin tribunals immediately and to stop this madness, then in fact the world is once again complicit in genocide.

Per Advocate:
“Only a massive change in the ethical culture of the masses in the United States will rein in the most deadly barbarous nation in the world’s history”

Advocate, I concur with your general misanthropy about Americans. It’s been agonizing, unbearable to watch as 74% supported this invasion, lemmings. It proves that if you build a society based purely on capitalist greed, that selfishness and overfed gluttonous decadence can be the only result. The market won’t police itself, rather people trained from birth in the fine arts of fat, selfish, brain-dead consumerism and making scads of money at the expense of everyone and everything else, such an ethic seems to have caused a complete liquefaction of people’s minds. For them the only “common good” or “civic duty” is to join up, and play video-games with real ammo (with the “roof’s on fire” playing over the tank loudspeakers).

I would like a response, for once and for all from the overwhelming majority of enlistees who claim to be these “CHRISTIANS” out there in the desert: You claim to adhere to this fundamentalist, faith-healing, mega-church, bible-belted, born-again “faith” in which GOD COMMANDED YOU NOT TO KILL.

Leaving aside the legal issues (implicating all enlistees serving in Iraq, for which you should all be tried and jailed) How then can a “christian” continue killing, when it was proven beyond any doubt that this was NOT a “Just War”?

This riddle alone should expose the complete duplicity and dishonesty of each and every Judeo-Christian in this country who claims to believe in these “commandments”, but who did not actively oppose the actions that their tax-dollars made them complicit in, and their hippocracy for allowing their crew-cutted, psalm-singing, tongue-speaking, hypnotized/militarized “faith-healed” mega-churched, Robertsonite Christian-coalition youth to be trained and deployed in this blasphemous war.

Why has it taken 5 years for public opinion to show any sign of turning against the war, when it was so clear to Col. Jag and the rest of us with eyes, that this was a complete hoax and an international crime from the outset??

One more question:
Now that it has been PROVEN and ADMITTED by McNamara that the Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag operation, why were all those crew-cutted militarized angry ‘conservatives’ who badmouthed (and in some cases assassinated) those who were correct about Vietnam not taken to task, at least in social discourse? If it was shown that one hideous, unwarranted, pointless, illegal invasion quagmire was completely corrupt from the outset, how can it come to pass that within a generation after withdrawing from Vietnam, we’re back at it again, and with the FULL COMPLICITY of the electorate whose families personally suffered unspeakably from the destruction of an entire generation of casualties and PTSD Vets? Were there not enough documentaries about Vietnam, not enough park-bench-drunk veterans destroyed forever by that war to have reminded the electorate that we don’t EVER do that again?

IF the soldiers who fought in Vietnam were aware that the Gulf of Tonkin was a hoax, then they too would be war-criminals (not that they aren’t for other reasons), But in this case we know NOW, during the bulk of the occupation, and have known for 3 years at least, that the pretext for the invasion was falsified, that the information could have been obtained by the UN, et. al, and that the occupation is therefore (and always was regardless) clearly and unequivocally illegal, why then do the soldiers continue to kill?

And don’t say it’s because the military owns their ass, when apparently the punishment for refusing the order to kill is a month in the brig and a less-than-honorable discharge– hardly a trade-off considering the killing and dying going on!

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VERY ANGRY HOST OF THIS GROUP October 03, 2007 3:07 PM

Seeing that all these people are RIGHT ON TARGET --

TAKE OFF THE GLOVES, readers, don't make nicey-nice, there is a lot of feeling that can be mobilized out there, don't hesitate to take your stand against the killing!

Yes, WHY DO THE SOLDIERS CONTINUE TO KILL??????

Please USE THE ABOVE ARGUMENTS and convince anyone you can possibly come in contact with, friends or strangers, overseas or on leave in the U.S., in the Military or considering it, TO PERSONALLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND STOP KILLING; STOP OBEYING ORDERS TO KILL WHICH ARE ILLEGAL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

Convince them to CONVINCE OTHERS.

ONLY IN THIS WAY, CAN THE ILLEGAL, IMMORAL OCCUPATION OF IRAQ BE ENDED. Congress sure won't do it -- they have no guts. Our letters, etc. fall on deaf ears. UNLESS WE DIRECT THOSE LETTERS, ETC., DIRECTLY TO THE MILITARY PERSONNEL WHO HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THIS MADNESS.

ONLY IN THIS WAY, CAN THE ILLEGAL, IMMORAL AND TOTALLY DISASTROUS FOR OUR COUNTRY AND FOR THE WORLD, INVASION AND BOMBING OF IRAN BE HALTED. ONLY BY THE REVOLT OF THE GENERALS {that is rumored to have already taken place!}; THE REVOLT OF THE OFFICERS AT ALL LEVELS {so that the Generals can't be replaced!}; and THE REVOLT OF THE PILOTS AND ENLISTED PERSONNEL {so that no matter what happens with the Generals and Officers, the planes loaded with nuclear bombs don't get off the ground!!!}.

TAKE TO HEART WHAT THESE BLOGGERS SAY. GO TO THE SITES AND ADD YOUR COMMENTS TOO {if they are not already closed!}. Come out even MORE STRONGLY here on Care2, with MORE REFERENCE TO FACTS; and NEVER COMPROMISE your principles just to "make nice" here or anywhere!!!

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