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So, You've Decided You're A Pagan/Witch/Wiccan, What Now? September 02, 2004 7:01 AM

Now what?? Do you rush out to blow your money at all the witchy shops for your new tools???? You don't have to. Personally I'm a poor Pagan/witch who's money goes towards raising her 4 sons, so it's not very practical for me to run out and blow my money. You have things around the house already that you can use as your ritual tools. Cheap Places To Buy Ritual Items: Go to Goodwill and look in their home decor section. There's always candle holders, odd & ends of dishes. They even have fabric pieces you can buy to make an Altar cloth from. Garage Sales/Yard sales are a treasure trove for finding pagan items. Some of these people don't even realize what they have is pagan. There is alot you can find out there. Maybe even a cheap table just for your Altar. Learn to open your eyes and really look when you go to discount stores. Even at Wal-Mart and Dollar General I have found Items for my Altar, and home that leans to the pagan/witchy side. The Practical Altar: You can use anything really. An end table, or night stand. Right now I have a Native American Chief bust to represent the masculine God, and a Native American Maiden bust to represent the Feminine Goddess. Broke the handle off a wooden spoon?? Don't throw it away. Personalize it and create your wand out of it. Don't have a pesstle and morter for grinding herbs and such?? use a salad bowl and a baseball in a plastic bag. With just a little igenuity and alot of imagination even the poor Pagan/Witch/Wiccan can have her/his Altar and tools.  [ send green star]
 
 September 02, 2004 8:43 PM

I have been a practicing solitary eclectic since March 2004, but I have been interested since childhood.  I, too am a poor witch!!  And I just discovered my local thrift shops for Sabbat supplies just last week!!  I got several candle holders, and they had lots of Fall things to decorate with, and some great tables!  I think I will be visiting them often!  We have a really cool Candle Factory in town, but they are expensive.  If I had the $ I could go nuts in that store!!  LOL  For now though, I will have to stick to the thrift stores.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 October 08, 2004 6:55 PM

I have a 4 yr old son and a new baby how would be the best way to incorporate my son into learning the traditions and sabbats?  I really wanted to do something for Samhain this year with Sam but I have no idea of what or how to celebrate it let alone how to have Sam participate.

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anonymous I have decided to be a pagen October 08, 2004 7:01 PM

my parents aren't into it but i am very into it in town we have a shop that is called the spiral and it is filled with spiritual thing like bracelettes, candles, candle holders and a lot of other things as well.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
Mels October 08, 2004 7:45 PM

just look for kid oriented stuff.... stories and such.... maybe help your son make a wooden athame.... a wand.... does he know anyone who's died? explain in his terms if you set a place in honor of a deceased loved one. Most important.... keep it simple, the Goddess will guide you.  [ send green star]
 
 October 09, 2004 6:32 PM

OMG!! I absolutely love thrift shops and yard sales! today I went to a yard sale and got two decorative candle holders 4 candles in the shape of halloween witch hats (I thought they were cute!) and 10 brand new tealights all for just $3. Also in the past i have gotten so many books from thrift stores to further my spiritual education. They are such wonderful CHEAP places!!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Altariel October 10, 2004 7:41 PM

Thank you for you information.  There has not been anyone who has died since he was born thank the Goddesses!  Thank you for the idea to have him make a wooden athame or wand that would be so fun!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 October 11, 2004 11:40 AM

You're very welcome Mels. Also, I'm going to share with you a site I use for my kids. You'll need a printer, if you don't have one you can go to the library and print from this site there for maybe 10 cents a page.

http://www.sacredspiralkids.com/color/magic/index.html

Enjoy!

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Hi Mels October 12, 2004 2:02 PM

Hi Mels, 

A few things you can do with your son ...

Get him some molding clay and help him make a personal totem which he can place on the family altar. It doesn't have to be perfect, as long as he knows  what he was going for. 

Take him apple picking (or to the farmer's market/grocery store).  He can help you prepare them (the apples he selected) for the Samhain meal.  You can also make bird feeders at Yule using apples (and oranges). Slice them across (to reveal the pentacle within the apple) spread them with peanut butter, roll them in bird seed, and string them up fot the back yard critters. The birds will use the yarn for their nests. 

Pumpkins are another great way to get the kids involved with the ritual for Samhain. Carving them or preparing them for eating. Sam can help you clean and toast the seeds.

Bright Blessings! 

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How do you start and what do you do next? October 12, 2004 3:24 PM

I want to become a good witch and learn healing how is the best way to go about it?  are there any spells for Fertility ?  I want my husband and I to have another child but it seems we are having problems can anyone help?  I know the full moon is on the 28th this month is there anything special to do?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Altariel October 12, 2004 4:30 PM

Thank you for the website it is GREAT!! Sam is going to love it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Angela October 12, 2004 4:31 PM

Thank you for these ideas!  They will come in handy and Sam loves to do things like these.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Spells October 12, 2004 5:08 PM

Alyia,

I have always found that the most powerful spells are those which I write myself.  They don't have to be poetic or profound, just sincere and to the point.  I did a fertility ritual some years ago in the hopes of having a daughter of Autumn ... and 9 years ago today, I had Raven. I used symbols of the mother such as a cauldron and some geodes. I chose symbols of the earth and moon, and colors, incense, and oils to coordinate. I think Beltane is the best time to perform a fertility ritual.

here is a link to an example of a fertility ritual ... I hope this helps!

  http://www.dreamwater.org/moonshae/rituals/Fertilrite.htm

      Blessed Be   

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 December 31, 2004 6:43 PM

These are some really great ideas!!  I never thought of going to the thrift shops and garage sales.  Well... I know where my next shopping trip will be to.

Thanks for the wonderful ideas!!   Loracal

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HELLO January 27, 2005 9:10 AM

Hi!!!

  As far as being a poor witch,I know what it is like...I don't feel that a person needs to spend  ton of money on supplies or anything else for that matter...Garage sales,thrift shops are an excellent way to find what you need..I also like going to Amazon.com....You can get so many things,especially books at a cheap price!!!   I bought a book titled.."THE SUPERMARKET SORCERESS" by Lexa Rosean...It is pretty interesting...Lots of things can be bought at the local grocery store.....I sometimes even buy candles at my local Dollar Store!!!!

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 January 27, 2005 10:47 AM

Lisa,

Add that book title to the "Book Recommendation" thread. Sounds like a must have.

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Where to start...hmm.. May 19, 2005 1:47 PM

Greetings,

Many of you here have fantastic ideas.  May I add a few of mine? For powdered incense...look in your kitchen.  The everyday spices you use to cook and back with are excellent! Cinnamon..sage...salt...cumin...oregano...just dont mix them all...you wouldn't like the results. Trust me. For a simple altar, I use something of wood that my husband had around the house.  I had already bought a goddess statue and all the things I would need, that was because I had a job back then.  It's also nice having friends who are pagan as well.  My family and friends got me alot of my magickal things for my name day and for Yule.

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Pagan ceremonies May 19, 2005 2:12 PM

Blessings all,

I've been into Paganism and Spirituality since I was 14, it made more sense than the dogmatic Roman Catholic upbringing that my mother enforced upon me. Anyway, I now have three small children, (Danny is 4, Logan is 2 and Tanya is almost 4 weeks old. )

I'm fine about raising my children as Pagans, but I would really like some sort of naming ceremony for them in lieu of a traditional christening.

Daniel and Logan had different christenings due to circumstances at the time. Daniel was christened Catholic due to pressure from my family, and Logan had a blessing/acceptance into the community ceremony at the local church.

Personally, I feel that neither of these are appropriate for a Pagan upbringing and I would like Tanya and her brothers to have a proper Pagan ceremony if that is possible.

My question is: does anyone know the ceremony if there is one, and who would we need to contact in order to get this done? Is there someone who does this in the Pagan community, or do the parents just make it up personally?

Sorry if all this sounds crazy, but I really don't know where else to find this information. Thanks if you can help,

Blessed be

Morgaen

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anonymous Morgaen May 19, 2005 9:11 PM

 these are some Pagan Clergy Listings....

Officiant Listings 

Pagan Clergy

Officiants

Heres a couple of examples of what happens and some different types:

Rituals Introduction

Wiccaning Ritual

Wiccaning - Egyptian Style Ritual

Wiccaning/Paganing

Rituals: Sample Pagan Rituals (The Cauldron: A Pagan Forum)

I also the Witches Bible by Janet and Stewart Farrar..... it's Gardnerian/Alexanderian form. I've got a copy of this book. And it has their version of a Wiccaning/Paganing. There might be books on it.......

I love the idea of the Wiccaning/Paganing.....

« Your Childs Wiccaning »


Your Childs Wiccaning is a Very special day for both them as your children and you as the Parents. It marks the Day when your child is first introducedto the worlds both physical and spiritual and shown to the earth and the elements




This is a day of Rejoice in New life and unity with that life.. I Promise you my best possible efforts on such a momentous day to make everything as perfect as you want it

~Reverend Jason Poss

Hope this helps....Wickie

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anonymous  May 19, 2005 9:22 PM

An idea.... the witchesvoice.com .... you can look up clergy in your area. Write them and find out if they do Wiccaning/Paganing (whichever is you).... of course there are one's that do handfastings/weddings, funerals, even go to hospitals....

Honestly I'm just excited to learn this information..... I found out about all this about 2 months ago and still learning more about it too.

I can't wait to hear what the others will add....

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Wickie May 20, 2005 10:07 AM

Hi Wickie, Thank you so much for the information, I have bookmarked those sites and will go through them in more depth later on. I think the one where I can look up the clergy in my area will be good, as I live in South Wales (uk) and I don't think even the ones who travel out of state will travel that far! lol

Thank you again

Blessings

Morgaen

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Wickie May 20, 2005 10:08 AM

Hi Wickie, Thank you so much for the information, I have bookmarked those sites and will go through them in more depth later on. I think the one where I can look up the clergy in my area will be good, as I live in South Wales (uk) and I don't think even the ones who travel out of state will travel that far! lol

Thank you again

Blessings

Morgaen

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anonymous  May 21, 2005 3:20 AM

Morgaen...hello.   I'm just overly excited for you!!!     Silly no?

I just hope that you can find exactly what you are looking for.  I did notice that Lonnie C is a clerigyman!!! I didn't realize that there was one among us..this is so good to know.

Anyway....BB to you and yours ~Tera

PS    Will ya let us know how it turns out? You got me excited for you.

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Alyia May 21, 2005 2:39 PM

As most people will see I am deep into crystals and crystal healing..There are stones for fertility..I would choose Garnet but also oCarnelian and Rose Quartz have these qualities. I would definitely go with garnet though. 

To where as I do not have a spell for you off hand I would recommend the crystal. Also I would have to say...If Children are what you want ask for them also give them up spiritually to what you believe in. You give to what you want to recieve..Obviously you can not give children but you can put beliefs in them to the power you believe in giving spiritually that is. In other word...I ask that you give me a child. I have nothing to offer in turn of the child but spiritually I give this child to you.

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Wickie May 22, 2005 4:52 AM

Thanks for the excitement, of course i will keep you informed during preparations and let you kno how it goes on the day. Thanks for the interest.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
want a cauldron? May 22, 2005 5:55 AM

but you go to the store and they are cost prohibitive.....some are close to a hundred dollars..

go to a camping store.....or an army surplus outlet...

they will have huge dutch ovens and other items meant for high temps...built real tough for cheap compared to the metaphysical stores

don't forget antique stores as well....you can actually get some good deals on items there

plus dont forget to cleanse and charge the item.....it will have passed through so many hands....you don't want any negativity to rub off on you

here is a ritual i have found for tarot cards for instance

The Cleansing and Charging of a New Tarot Deck
Often, with ritual, you 'feel' your way through it; following the paths that seem most correct. For me, magick is rarely done the same way twice; improvosation seems necessary. This in mind, feel free to modify this incantation to fit your own beliefs and path.

For visualization, gather a black votive candle and a white votive candle, and cast the spell sometime in the days following the full moon. Gather a green taper candle as well.

A bit of gingerroot (for potency/power) can be chewed during this ritual and peppermint leaves may also be helpful. If you have any incence (stick incense is easiest and cheapest to come by), use a stick during the ritual. While your favorite incence (or one with which you identify with cleansing) is always a good idea; incenses with such properties to me seem to be pine or frankinsence. Get a piece of silk to set your deck upon and wrap it with when you are done.

A pocketwatch, hourglass, sundial or other time piece should finish this ritual.


1. Gather your herbs and implements. Get a stone or something that won't burn on which you can set the leaves (if you decide to use them).

2. Set the three candles from left to right with the black votive on your left, green taper in the middle and the white votive to your right. Put the timepiece in front of the green candle. This symbolizes divination and knowledge of the future.

3. Set the Tarot deck on the silk cloth before you.

4. Ground and Center.

5. Establish what protections/requests to the Four Quarters you require.

6. Start by lighting the cleansing incense and breathing in deeply, holding the tarot deck to be cleansed in your lap. Feel it's contours with your hands until you know it's shape in your mind. Overlay this image with another image of the timepiece. Let the symbolism of the two merge to become one. (In other words, concentrate on the symbolic similarities of the deck and time piece and weave the raised energy through that concept.)

7. Light the green candle with the words,
    ", I light this candle in honor of your cleansing hands."

8. Chew the ginger root (if you like, it's pretty awful tasting) for potency and utilize the energy released from it to charge that which you have already raised.

9. Take the peppermint leaves (if used) and light them in the green candle and let them burn on the stone or inflammable surface you have with the words,
    ", I release the energy of life to drive off impurity."

10. Pass the tarot deck through the smoke of the leaves (if used) and the incense. Focus the image in your head on the energy and smoke moving through the deck and forcing impurity out.

11. Light the black candle from the green taper, imagining it to represent the impurities in the deck. As it burns, so too are the impurities cleansed away.

12. Innundate the shape in your mind (and project through the deck) with the energy you have raised.

13. Flip through the deck, one card at a time, and picture the impurities drifting up on the smoke away from the card. Be sure to channel the actual energy you've raised into this visualization. If it feels appropriate, you may want to use a chant (such as the Goddess Chant) to focus your thoughts. Place each card back, face-down, on the silk. You don't have to look at each card unless that feels right to you; this shouldn't have to be a very difficult or a huge task ... just a smooth cleansing. It occurs to me that you may want to pass each card once over the timepiece -in effect, charging the card with the 'future'. This is not required and has been added as an afterthought.

14. Once all the cards are face-down on the silk in a stack, snuff the black candle and light the white one with the words,
    ", by your healing and my will, So Mote It Be."

15. Wrap the cards in the silk for protection and Ground any extra energy.

16. Snuff the candles.

17. Close any circle or protections you have raised.


the point is yoiu do not have to spend a fortune to practice witchcraft....you just have to be creative and sensible ; )))

BB

wendy wendy

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"So, You've Decided You're A Pagan/Witch/Wiccan. What Now?" July 27, 2005 8:28 PM

Blessings to All. I am a 21 year old Eclectic Pagan. I have been practicing for about 7 years now. I by no means now everything about the craft. On the contrary, I know a bit about and I am trying to redeam that n__n  I myself poses little money and therefore have found cheep and inovative ways to practise on a budget. I buy (for now) my candles and the basics at my local dollar store. I get the herds and things of nature that I need from my yard. I do spells, blessings and such sparsely for I do not have the physical energy to do them often. But I find I enjoy candle, cord, box, bottle, and word magick.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
hello October 08, 2005 2:40 PM

im 14 and about a year ago i became wiccan and since then ive been hiding my religion from my all to christian family, But heres two websites i find very helpful!
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Thank you michelle October 08, 2005 6:31 PM

thanks for the website, it gave me a lot of information! It is a very good site! I definitely will be using the information to help some of my friends...

Blessed Be,

Isa

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can't afford a bunch of books November 18, 2005 5:23 PM

Ever bought a pagan-related book from a bookstore? Then you know they're about $16-35 each. And I prefer to have lots of reference, yet I'm a poor college student.

My solution was, when I come up with a question or need a specific spell/ritual or just material on something, I go to local Barnes & Noble with a notepad and a pen, grab books I need off the shelves, plop down in one of those comfy chairs, and when I find the pages/texts I need, I simply write stuff down in my notebook, using shortened words and abbreviations of course. Again, I'm a college students, I can take some freaking quick notes. This is so illegal but that's what I have to do since I can't afford to actually buy all those books. I told my friends last week that I wish they had a copy machine there, they all fell over laughing.

But, the books are usually credited, and I can see/check sources on it, to know for sure if it's a trustworthy source, unlike the 'Net where so many copy and paste and lose sources.

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anonymous Pagan Supplies & help for anyone who asks... November 18, 2005 6:46 PM

Goodwill (sorry this is a plug for me as I work Antiques & Collectibles for them) is a great source as well as any thirft store. Also as far as books, if you have any used book stores near you and are on a budget that is a great place to start. Most offer there books for atleast half the cover price. The main one by me has dollar days every 6 months or so to eliminate inventory and make room for more. My husband and I (who are book worms!!) went to the last sale and spent $45, of which 32 were dollar books that came from the metaphysical section.
  Word of advice to those who are new... feel your way through things. It's a matter of personal spirituality, not conformity. I am what is known as an Ecclectic Witch. One who studies different trads and such and combines things from each to make their own spiritual path. Go with your gut. Also I can appreciate metaphysical fairs and they can introduce you to new things, but if you are on a budget, hold on to your cash!!! Take a note pad and and write things down that interest you. Shop around. Fairs tend to bump things (even that 5% increase in price, can affect how many things you can buy). It's a great place to get ideas, create new interests and such. Just remember to be thrift, especially when new to something. The more you see the more you want. In that case this should come to mind... "Quality, before quanity". In other words, you find a book on a topic you like, it's best to explore other authors at the same time. From experience, I dove in a bought a lot, after reading them, there were things I found fault with or felt was utter nonsense.
  I have a massive home library (over 200 metaphysical books) as well as numerous files saved to a specific email address. And for the benefit of others I am willing to put it out here (hopefully it doesn't result in spam!!!) if there is anything you have a question on  that I might have an article or spell I help you with  you can contact me directly at  aradia_r2002@yahoo.com

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shameless plug November 18, 2005 9:17 PM

I work at a public library, and I just have to say that interlibrary loan is a wonderful thing. My library system doesn't own anything by Gerald Gardner, for instance, but I've read all his books without having to buy them because we were able to borrow them from another library. It's a great option if there's a recommended title you want to look at before you spend your hard-earned money on it.

I have to admit, though, that public libraries have a chronic problem with witchcraft-related titles getting lost or stolen, so if you just want to browse your local collection you may not find much on the shelf.  A bookstore might be a better choice if you're just searching for inspiration without a specific title in mind.
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What Now? January 29, 2006 7:42 PM

Hi everybody. I had to laugh when I read Anna's answer to costly books. She sounds a lot like me. I also go to Barnes and Noble. I usually grab about 12 to 20 books, sit down and go through them. I do take some notes, but mostly I read enough to see if the book 'speaks' to me. I narrow it down and maybe buy one book, maybe not. I write down the names of the ones I really want and then search thrift stores, used books stores and Barnes & Noble online books. They have a lot of books that you can buy used. Flea markets are a great way of finding inexspensive tools of the craft. Anyway, just wanted to put my two cents in. Blessed Be and good luck with your searching.  Artisina  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Joy Be To The Books! February 06, 2006 9:59 AM

I've almost never bought any of my tools. I've been practising for about five years now, and it's only been within the last six months to a year that I've even had an athame. My mother was only uncomfortable with the idea that you had to BUY things to be part of the religion, which I wholeheartedly agree with. Why WOULD you rush out and buy things if all you need is a good teacher, or, in lieu of that (which I had to make do with) a great book? For years I never had a cauldron, couldn't burn candles, didn't even make images of the God and Goddess. I read once that a witch could do with a book of matches and a penknife. Then I thought, why do you need that? Christianity (sorry to compare) doesn't need anything but ONE book. Because Paganism/Wicca/Witchcraft are so mutable, wouldn't you be able to do with even less? Aren't your beliefs just that?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
The total joy of books! February 06, 2006 10:30 AM

I just wanted to give everyone somemore good ideas about where to get books dirt cheap! Amazon.com... used books, ebay.com, half.com...Savers thrift stores...my personal favorite is thrift stores and my public library is ALWAYS selling books...usually for 50 cents to two dollars a book! My collection continually expands I am sure it surpasses a 1000 books...( I have been a bookworm for 30 some odd years) Mostly metaphysical...I like to go to amazon and read part of the book before I purchase....what I purchase at my library and don't wish to keep I sell on ebay...they are also great for books that are no longer in print...if you cannot find what you are looking for you can use the " I want it now option" someone may have it out there and wish to sell it to you! I can't remember the last time I paid full price for a book! I am sure we all love that

Pam

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Thread request February 12, 2006 6:59 AM

I've got an idea!   Could we maybe start a thread on how to be a witch on a shoestring?  I don't know what clever title to give it, but it seems lots of you have great ideas, and I could use all the help I can get!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
What Now? April 21, 2006 10:20 PM

I never decided, it was always a part of me, I'm a 43 yr. old and been practicing for over 30 odd yrs. I am an herbalist and an aromatherapist just learning, I love it, I'm an eclectic solitary, living in N. Calif USA, no covens in this area unless I want to drive to Sacramento, but I don't drive, LOL! I tend to buy the books that I KNOW I need to follow what I'm learning, YES! still hehee! you can't learn too much. HUGZ & Blessings, Maiden  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  April 22, 2006 5:06 PM

atlas,i am a pooer one also. i brought most of my things from yard sales ot the dollar store.most of my books and tarot cards came from one spirit book club.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 April 23, 2006 12:36 PM

I think one of the problems with running out and buying things is that you will wind up with a bunch of things that you won't use. I know I did. My husband bought me a lot of stuff that I never used. Now I have what I need, and if I need something else I look for it in paticular and I have had great luck in thrift stores. I think Goddess leads me to what I really need. I have also gotten some things from One Spirit and most of it has been really nice. We need to remember that this is a spiritual journey, not a material one. I find a lot of what I need here on care 2 in the groups. Especially this one. Do what feels right and look at nature for what you need and you will usually find it. Feathers, rocks, herbs, water, salt. My husband and I found a place where we felt Dragons very strongly. We took some of the water from the stream there and it has been very powerful as an additive to rituals and some spellwork. I know I will never learn all there is to know, but I am sure enjoying the journey.Blessed Be!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  April 28, 2006 11:37 PM

This must be very common...buying tools and things we need at the thrift store...I think most of us have done it. I LOVE yard sales...its amazing what you can find if you hit them early and now that its getting warm its yard sale time again..YIPPY..I love it...I see it as a treasure hunt...an adventure...

Hey Marlene!!!!Fancy meeting you here...LOL

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anonymous  April 28, 2006 11:42 PM

Altariel...Thanks so much for the link for the kids...Its absolutely perfect for my children!

Love and Light...

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anonymous  October 27, 2007 3:39 AM

Oooh Im so happy Ive found this group Ive been in the broom closet for years! haha.. eons LOL! Ive been a solitary witch all my life for as long as I can remember in any case I grew up in an area where witchy ways were certainly not encouraged at all.

So Im becoming more open Seeing whats outside my closet now looks good hahaha! Such a relief to be out of there
Nice to meet everyone!
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 October 31, 2007 12:53 PM

I don't know if any of you know who Scott Cunningham was, but, I remember him emphasizing that not to be so consumed with having all the right herbs, candles, etc. for your workings.  They are merely tools for focus.  What matters most is your intent.  Whew!  I was so relieved to read this as I was totally stressing out about where to find certain herbs, incense, special candles and if I could get them in time for the ritual and oh boy, it costs how much???? All that stress took away the main reason for my workings.  Now, I have the bare minimum and focus on intent and being in tune with my guides and totems for protection and guiduance and leave it up the the universe...  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
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