Cam (and others) ask why do liberal women attack conservative women and I will ask him- why shouldn’t they? Given that people in this group defend the right of anyone in America to have free speech, Why wouldn’t women (or people) who have different view on issues attack women (or people in general) with opposing views.
Interesting question and one I have been hearing about since the 2008 election. First it was all about Hilary being attacked. Hilary was attacked, Obama was attacked, others on the Republican side were attacked. It is part of the job. Hilary has been attacked before as First Lady. All seemingly part of
being in the public eye.
It then turned into attacks on Sarah Palin as some women were interested in voting for her and some weren’t. I remember hearing that all women were supposed to support her because she is a women. WTH? Why should I?
So I ask, should women be held to a different standard of attack- i.e. being “gentle folk” they shouldn’t have to take? Or is it Okay if they are in the public eye to attack them just as men are attacked? What about African-Americans and the “N” word (which was mentioned above) or any other ethnic group and any other sort of word associated with said group?
And another question is…Have they actually been attacked MORE than the men. Yes, I agree if people are using words like c*nt and some of the others, mentioned, that is way over the top. Have similar words been used for men? How often? What about Cain and his alleged liaisons? What kind of words were said about him?
Personally, I don’t use those words. At least I try not to but I imagine someone here will conjure up the one time I did (if I did but I doubt it). I don’t have any friends I can think of who would use those words though again, you may end up pointing to a friend that did use one of those words. I have never condoned the use of such words.
On the other hand, Yes, you know that I don’t care for Sarah Palin. And I have stated that. Is that an
attack? I think not but perhaps some of you do.
We get into issues of when to draw the line. For some reason Sarah Fluke was deemed fair game. Maybe she was. But to have someone asking her to video tape herself having sex so he could watch it was a bit over the top. But I will also say that Obama calling her was also over the top.
But what about these others such as Bristol Palin? Personally, attacks on her were over the opt during the 2008 election. Nowadays she has made herself more of a public figure and has gained some benefit from the “fame”. Shouldn’t she in some way be fair game now?
Then we get into these issues of appearance that are constantly being brought up. Sarah Fluke is accused of being ugly and needing plastic surgery as she is aging poorly. At least that is what I was hearing from someone who is not a member of this group. WTH? What does her appearance of
anyone’s appearance have to do with their credibility or ability to do a job? Are we supposed to vote for Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachman just because they are pretty? Do we vote for Obama or Romney just because they are good looking men? Are we turning out elections into a Miss/ Ms./ Mr. America
Am I as a woman supposed to support all women out there? Even when they have positions that I don’t support? Wouldn’t that be a lie? Are all African- Americans supposed to support Obama? What about when Bill Cosby comes out staying that young black men should pull up their pants and stay in
school? Does that mean he is “attacking” other black men?
I support people with positions and values that I believe in. I don’t support other based on their own positions and values. Some of these PEOPLE are women and some are men.
I have never supported the use of words like c*nt or sp*c or the “N” word. I have always tried to avoid negative attacks and “hate speech”. I remember back when Gabby Giffords was shot. We had several threads here that got pretty nasty. I remember a new member being attacked when she posted an article (that she herself did not necessarily agree with) about whether Sarah Palin was to
blame for any of that. Heck, she was a new member and not even sure what to make of the article herself and she was being lambasted by members. I understood that many here are big Sarah Palin.
When another thread popped about the rhetoric on both sides, some of us called for it to stop and were lambasted for that. I admit there was a lot of stuff like that going on all over.
If entertainers are using those words, does that make it different? We have been on a very slippery slope as long as I can remember- going back to the early days of Saturday Night Live. After a while some of this is just downright disrespectful. And when it comes to some of the things Bill Maher and other say, it is tasetless and disgusting. And yet when some do it, it is free speech and when others do it, it is hateful and vile. So which is it really?