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Introductions January 22, 2005 5:50 AM

Good morning. I am a tow truck driver from the south side of Chicago. I was made aware of Chem Trials about a year ago in one of the my yahoo groups. I really didn't pay much attention to what was being said because all of the conspiracy theory that was attached made it sound like a scifi fiction. However, at the start of November, I witnessed heavy Chem Trial Activity in the southern sky for about four hours one afternoon. This went on for the next week. I pointed it out to the "Den of Dittoheads" where I work and was almost laughed out of a job. Let me just say that things got pretty intense at one point. Since that time, I still watch the sky closely and point out to anyone that will listen that there is something going on in our skies. What I don't do is speculate on the Chem Trails. I generally just tell them to do an internet search on Chem Trails and preface by telling them that there are a lot of theories {some of which will be farfetched and even sound a little wacky}. Hopefully, this gets them watching the sky and questioning what is going on. Let me state here, that I am known to be a little left of center { some people think I am way farther than a ' little", some might even tell you that I'm in bed with Goofy}. This is why more "straight" upright{uptight might work here too} folks need to be aware that the Chem Trails are there. The has started and lets hope that it grows.  [ send green star]
 
 January 22, 2005 8:51 AM

Greetings all, I am Ravyne. I am a researcher and writer of Conspiracy Theory and Government Cover-up topics. I have been researching and writing articles about Chemtrails for over 2 years now. I was made aware of Chemtrails by simple observation. I noticed long blumed-lines in†the sky and noticed a difference between the ones that disappeared quickly (contrails) and those that lingered, turned into cloud-like formations and/or dried up rainclouds. I began documenting what I saw in a diary and noticed that these chemtrails were the heaviest during Flu and Allergy seasons. I've tried talking to the medical profession about these chemtrails and have sent requests to the Government (FOIA) about them, to no avail. I have been able to make a few people aware of chemtrails, but not curious enough to do anything about it. You can usually see me standing in my yard cursing at the baastaards who are doing these sprayings  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 22, 2005 9:19 AM

Hi, I am a poet and a writer. I like to research, read, do needlearts, and a host of other things. I was made aware of chemtrails fairly recently...like within the past year or so. Since I live in Maryland, I get to see a lot of air traffic overhead...military, commercial, and private. (We see a lot of strange things over here actually.)

Thanks for the invitation.

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Hi To All January 22, 2005 10:34 AM

I`m Donna F. as you can see by my profile pic and I`m so glad Bear started this group as its very important to disseminate the available information and get it out there for people to see!

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Rayvne, Donna F, and Daphne; it is good to see you January 22, 2005 5:47 PM

Glad you could make it. I have a question, I am not seeing a a members list. Any thoughts on that? I will start bring over the posts from where do we go from here in the morning  [ send green star]
 
Bear January 22, 2005 6:13 PM

No worries. The members list can take a day or so to start showing up.  [ send green star]
 
Howdi January 22, 2005 6:39 PM

Hello chem-trailer-folks. I just signed up. This is a group I just now I'm going to enjoy considering my website. I just love all kinds of weird phenomenon. I saw chemtrails for years and always wondered what they were. It was only in the past few years that I found out.

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My Theory January 22, 2005 6:52 PM

My theory is that the government is trying to weaken everyone's immune systems (not strengthen them) in order to levy a nasty population control virus that will wipe out a huge portion of the world's population. Afterall, it is the stated goal of the neo-cons to reduce the world's population to 500 million by the year 2000, which places them five years behind schedule. Hard to believe isn't it?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous newbie January 22, 2005 6:53 PM

Hello all. I am new and so very glad I found this group. My husband told me about chem trails about a year ago and since then I notice them everywehre. Im so glad to be here share, learn and disscuss. thanks.

Mandy

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 January 22, 2005 6:55 PM

Why do you think nearly 50 of the world's leading microbiologists who are the only ones that can come up for antidotes to avian flu, monkey-pox, west nile, mad cow, SARS, have been murdered since 9/11 with no true investigations..only coverups?

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Arlene January 22, 2005 6:57 PM

It may seem hard to believe to some that don`t yet realize just how determined the NeoCons (possibly we need to post a definition of NeoCons for those out of the loop) are in their agenda.  [ send green star]
 
Here is a link to some of the dead scientists info January 22, 2005 6:59 PM

http://www.stevequayle.com/C2C.index.dead.scientist.html  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 22, 2005 7:00 PM

All we have to do is send them to http://www.infowars.com  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Donna invited me January 22, 2005 8:10 PM

so I joined.† I have auto immune activity going on already.† I don't have a diagnosis of CFS, FMS, Lupus, MS, as yet.† But I have symptoms that so far are unexplainable.† For the most part, I just try to read the info but thought I'd give a short intro.† Single parent, 3 sons, live in Washington state on the dry side of the Cascades.

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Hi Donna January 23, 2005 6:54 AM

I lived for 10 years (Florida) in an area that regularly (at least) once a week had a sky full of Chemtrails, all crisscrossing each other.

Recently I relocated 25 miles north of there for nonrelated reasons. I wasn`t moving to†get away†from them, actually.

Anyway, guess what?†The chronic†respiratory problems I`d had while in that area have almost completely cleared up. I didn`t even contribute them to the Chemtrails til now. I knew the CT`s were harmful in many ways of course but I didn`t make the connection to my lungs til now.

Also, my Cat was very unhealthy when living there the whole time. I was contributing that to her getting older. Well, guess what? She`s like a new cat now! She`s frisky, her coat is fluffier and shiny and her eyes are bright. I`ve never seen her like this.

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hi January 23, 2005 10:00 AM

Hi all, thanks for the invite Jackie † I have never heard of chem trails before but reading the posts has been most enlightening...and scary.† Hope to learn from all of you

peace,

Emily

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Hello... January 23, 2005 10:24 AM

I'm a single mom of a 14 year old boy and full time employee, Caseworker,†in a Correctional Facility near St Louis, MO. Driving home every night I see chemtrails in the sky over St Louis and the surrounding areas. I never had allergies in my life until recently. Now, I have to take Allegra, which is an allergy medication. It's very expensive, even with my insurance. I wonder if the drug companies are in this somehow? I know it seems far fetched, but ya never know!

Christy ††

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Not Far Fetched January 23, 2005 10:36 AM

F**king up peoples lungs (and other parts) creates a need for medication.  [ send green star]
 
 January 23, 2005 10:38 AM

Thank you for the invite Donna.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Altariel January 23, 2005 10:52 AM

aboard!  [ send green star]
 
I'm going to take some pictures... January 23, 2005 11:47 AM

on the way home tomorrow night, weather permitting. I don't know how they'll come out since I'll be using a disposable camera. It's really something to see all the trails in the sky through the sunset.

Christy

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 January 23, 2005 11:53 AM

I'll keep my eyes peeled for any chemtrails and if I see any I'll take some photos and post them.

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Thanks!! January 23, 2005 12:08 PM

I 'm glad to be here and thanks for the info!!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Hello everyone! January 23, 2005 3:14 PM

I'm Kat ... and very interested in CT's and trying to discover what they are all about. Thank you, Donna, for the invite .. this should be an informative group I'm sure I'll learn much from on this subject. Bear, Thanks for creating this group. I'll start being more observant to my skies and see if I can't capture some images as well. I found this in a Google search: "by Mike Blair from Spotlight http://www.spotlight.org/ The strange-looking streaks in the sky aren't your imagination. They are anti-bacteriological warfare chemicals being tested by the federal government. And the public has been kept in the dark. The Pentagon [and possibly other federal government entities] is testing anti-biological warfare agents, which produce the mysterious "chemtrails" that are appearing on an irregular basis in the skies over many American cities, towns and rural areas. An Air Force veteran, who while on active duty was attached to the nation's top secret National Security Agency (NSA), presents compelling evidence that the Pentagon is using regular Air Force and Air Force National Guard aircraft to release anti-bacteriological warfare chemicals into the skies. The chemtrails were detected some two years ago over central Virginia. Since the original report, thousands of people across the country have contacted this newspaper [Virginia's Spotlight] about the tell-tale streaks in the sky. Some casually look at the "contrails," thinking they are from a plane's engine exhausts condensing water vapor into a visible cloud" More: http://www.newfrontier.com/asheville/chemtrails.htm  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 23, 2005 8:54 PM

Hi All!

I live in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and have seen chemtrails here from time to time over the last 3-4 years. Does anyone here have any information as to how the chemtrails could produce flu-like symptoms? I'd appreciate any input you may have.

Thanks,

Debra

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Hi every one January 23, 2005 10:49 PM

Newbie here. I was wondering what is the chemtrail? is it the stuff in the air that we see, the white lines?

someone told me a long time ago about that and shortly after we had a report about the high level of chemicals in our area.

vero

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Debra January 24, 2005 4:51 AM

There are various theories. Some scientists and civil observers speculate different possibilities. Peruse the articles that Bear and others post here to get a sense of all the possibilities.

In fact it could be†numerous things they are spraying without civilian awareness or consent.

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 June 17, 2005 9:10 AM

Ok, this is really scarey..

I really never thought things would go this far.. In my naieve ways of 49 I just never thought people could be so hateful and uncaring.. Then I got into eating raw and found a whole bunch of things have been hurting us. I saw an email on my Texas Soapmakers Associations yahoo group lists that mentioned that Codex is trying to regulate our nutritional supplements, herbs, and organic foods in our bath and bodycare products need to know about CODEX ALIMENTARIUS.

CODEX is a UN sponsored set of regulations hi-jacked by multi-national pharmaceutical and chemical corporations for the sake of their own profit, greed and self-interest.

CODEX is sneaking up before Congress on July 4th. (This date is no coincidence, it's specifically designed to catch us off guard.)†

†Unless you and I take action NOW, adoption of these alarming policies would severely restrict our access to nutritional supplements and herbs (for ex. anything over 200mg of Vitamin C per day would be as illegal as heroin!), and it would further toxify our conventional food supply and destroy organic standards.

Now where do we go to stop this?? Is there a petition or something?

Here are some other links that were given...

Government Websites
http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Regulations_&_Policies/Codex_Alimentarius/index.asp
http://www.food.gov.uk/foodindustry/Codexbranch/
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/dscodex.html
http://www.affa.gov.au/codex

Other Information Sites
http://www.medical-library.net/sites/framer.html?/sites/_codex_alimentarius.html

Other Countries
CA:
http://www.naturessunshine.ca/products/pdfs/codexeng.pdf

There are a lot more if you search for "CODEX ALIMENTARIUS" in the search engines.

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Hi Everyone August 30, 2005 4:58 PM

I learned about chem trails a few years ago through a radio show. Now I see them quite frequently. Don't know what they are, but they sure aren't contrails. Contrails disappear. Chemtrails hang in the air all day. I actually followed a batch that were made near Scotts Bluff, NE, and they stayed in the air the whole day we were driving east. They are real, and I just wish the government would fess up.

Luanne

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 December 29, 2005 6:05 PM

Sort of reminds me of experiments the Government may be doing. They have tested differnt types of Chemicals, radiation †toxins and viruses etc.†on Citizens before. It would not surprise me that they would do it again.† I could see no possible reason for them to stop in view of what has been happening in the US. They even wanted to test pesticids and chemicals on the poor or mentally disabled children. So this would rate right up there. I would be suspisious.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  March 18, 2006 11:53 AM

††† so i was watching an episode of Alias.. season two, where dude says that Vietnamese and another culture of people believe white is a color of death, or something like that.. i should be looking it up to be better prepared and informing.. yeah yeah, so.. i had a thought.. or.. intercepted available truthwave?† lol that maybe it's the pharmaceutical co's that have been spraying.. to keep people depressed.. to up their dosages of meds.. upping their $$$ ???†

maybe they're afraid of too much happiness?† maybe they think too many people will skip work for the sun?† lol† *sighs*

on the other hand.. maybe they're cooling the planet?† and on top of that, eradicating the "useless eaters"?† - i have read a little about that Illuminati theory.† eradicating 85% of the world's population through means of getting rid of the lesser intelligence.†

hey.. did someone forget to tell me we were in a movie???† cause this shtuff's been just like a trippy movie.†

wanna know something weird about the trails..?† i've seen a plane actually follow a dark shadow "line" in the sky, spraying it's pattern.

that kinda leads me to recalling something about the Air Force saying they were studying the control of the weather as a weapon.

personally.. i think they fumbled the ball on intelligence.† educating and teaching more efficiently, would have been a much better way to go.†

ahhh.. being a Pisces.† so then again.. there's the whole Niburu thing.† you know.. Planet X?† the planet with like 36 names.† another of them, The Lord.† - i've thought about the bible passage.. about no one being able to look upon the Lord.† well.. supposedly, this planet is a fiery planet and three times the size of ours.† that would explain no one being able to look upon it.† they'd melt.† lol† this planet supposedly comes along every 3,660 years or so.† and was responsible for the land bridge being broken up many years ago.

what a mind game, eh?† best to live happily like each day is our last, experiencing joy and true Love.

so then again.. does this planet continue for so many years.. and those that are left, are here forever?† or.. could the whole planet of people use our mind power to go against "the lord" - how weird is THAT to say.† *shivers*† and use our mind power to visualize this planet like.. making a u-turn or veering off course and missing us, and leaving the solar system and never being seen again?

or.. is that going against god?†

a lovely puzzle, eh?† and me being given the gift of abstract reasoning.. can't help but notice the clues and such.

anyone have a glass of wine and a beach chair?†



i'm sane.† really i am.†
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anonymous  March 31, 2006 5:02 PM

This forum is the first place I discovered information about Chem Trails,and if there's only one thing I can try to do about it,signing petitions that is,then that's what I will concentrate on doing.So send me as many petitions.† I will stop by every so often to learn more and sign more and be united with others here.

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anonymous  March 31, 2006 5:09 PM

Oooh..s..........t,...am I understanding the title of this forum correctly? is Agent Orange(that stuff sprayed during the war)and napalm considered part of the Chemical trails??????? Donna?  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
Hi from chemtrail city California November 05, 2006 8:03 AM

I am Douglas K and I have eyewitnessed chemtrails being heavily sprayed yesterday in the skies above L.A.(San Fernando Valley).

Yesterday I wrote the City Attorney asking him to investigate it.

This morning I wrote one Dave Peterson who I think is associated with Clifford Carnicom asking him to hire a detective, or get a group of people with helicopters and automobile ground support connected by CB radio and follow these chemtrail planes, find out where they land, who the pilots are, who owns the planes, who fits the planes with the spray nozzle equipment, in short everything about the plot.

Yours Truly,

Douglas K.

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Douglas November 05, 2006 8:28 AM

Or you could hire a private dick to do some sleuthing......

They might not make it back alive to report tho.

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Darren November 05, 2006 8:31 AM

I'm just curious but why did you think "they" would be cooling the planet? Is it that thing we are "taught" in grade school, that the gov is trying to "protect" us from what we don't know?

Actually chemtrails keep the heat in, not vice versa.

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Pass laws banning skywriting/skytrailing November 05, 2006 11:06 AM

Only that trail which airplane fuel combustion exhaust leaves (plus bonafide contrails) could pollute the skies under the proposed laws.

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 November 05, 2006 12:18 PM

Yes, Donna a real Hardy Boys story!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
The spraying continues - follow those planes! November 06, 2006 3:16 PM

There has been sporadic but frequent†spraying throughout Sunday and Monday, after heavy spraying on Saturday!

What if this was a massive conspiracy throughout not just the U.S., but throughout the western world?

Idea to track chemtrail planes:† Place†people on mountaintops with†binoculars and telescopes to follow the chemtrail planes to find out where they land, which airports they land at.

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Douglas November 06, 2006 7:40 PM

The spraying is going on all over the world.  [ send green star]
 
 November 07, 2006 9:15 AM

One theory that is put forth in one of these videos, a theory which the other videos deny, is that the spraying is being done to neutralize global warming with a sunscreen by spraying tiny aluminum particulates which don't come down until they grow by colliding and combining with other particulates, water molcules, etc, so tiny they do not come down with the rain. However when you lay it out with logic, the aluminum would yes deflect direct sun and light rays coming from outer space like perforated aluminum foil does, but however would by the same token trap light rays bouncing from earth as well. Anyway, even if it did work, one could choose a less eugenically satisfying toxic substance than aluminum, such as zinc or iron, something nutritive, any metal will deflect light.Maybe zinc iodide sunscreen(much like zinc oxide sunblock on the nose), people need zinc, they need iodine, but they donít need aluminum, aluminum is toxic.

I think it is just another call to fear for the ignorant trusting souls, such as the aids genocide fraud(see www.duesberg.com , www.robertogiraldo.com , www.garynull.com ) They don't have flu and polio killing 50-100,000 people every year in the U.S., so they have to advance a fraud.

Why don't they do something natural like blow the top off of 6-8 active volcanoes, which one video suggests would work, and reverse the global warming trend in this manner? Or build a giant lens the diameter of the moon in outer space which would filter the sun's rays, put it in orbit around the sun and eclipse the sun with it? These are temporary stop-gap measures. The root cause of global warming would have to be found and reversed, with temporary cooling measures instituted.

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 November 07, 2006 9:18 AM

At any rate the people should have a say in and a vote on the anti-global warming plan.†  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 November 07, 2006 9:53 AM

Allopathic microbiologists are not the only ones Arlene.† Any genius can read several naturopathic textbooks, thence read several allopathic textbooks for background knowledge and devise complete cures for virtually all known medical illnesses.† Why do I say this, because I have done just that already!

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free Google chemtrail videos November 14, 2006 4:01 PM

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Chem Trails December 12, 2010 11:59 PM

Hi , I'm Bruce , I currently live in Brooklyn and was invited by "The Wild One " to check out the site . ( Nice shots , by the way . )

I'm enjoying the comments , here , a lot . Although , the subject matter comes as , no shock , to me . I've lived in several other locations and each area seems to have it's of concerns about the problems caused by greed and govt. cover ups .

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anonymous Thanks for the Invitiation Donna* February 14, 2011 11:58 AM


Thank You Donna for Inviting me..
 I'm in Fl. and seeing CT's All The Time..
Stains on the car, house, windows.. that won't just wash off, but must be 'scrubbed'.. my skin always feels itchy & tingly when outside, and must wash quickly to get rid of the sensation..
I've lived in four other states also, and had not problems.
 There is so much info about CT's on the internet, and many people have put Excellent links on my CT articles..

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 February 15, 2011 10:01 AM

Thanks Donna for your invite.
Good to see a few confided faces here.

You can see from my profile, where I use to live, most of the time, I am travelling or spend my time in places with convenient climate.
In Croatia, as long as without annexation to European Community - this is my thoughts - we have only very rare spraying. This is clear in summertime, as there are not much of clouds and one only can see a spraying aircraft in the common attitude of around 6.000meters once a week/or day flying in costal areas only.
I find this curious and hope, the spraying aircraft's pilot in charge would not read this contribution and boost activity.

Where ever I travel, I may observe the skies and find them milky, even if no clouds are visible or the weather forecast announced clear and sunshine and no hazy.

What confuses me is these pilots...
Can't they not just find a well-payd job, by doing for mankind instead of poisoning their own flesh?

I mean, for a pilot, there should be open doors for change of job for humanitarian actions, some of them already have spoken out but evilists still continuously carry out their depopulation job and increasing worlds population's health and wealth along with destruction of bio diversity.
Together, with Cary V. I have made a c2NN article and also excellent links and proposals were made.
News Station Confirms Poison Barium In Chemtrails

Interesting also some trained think-tank-educated trolls but never as bad as on Amour's articles!!!
So, Amour maybe came closer to the subject?

Interesting, that I could not find the legal information of the sites these trolls quote.
I mean - who stands behind this agenda...

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