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Gun-control laws failed Connecticut childrenIn the wake of the horrific school shooting in Newtown, Conn., voices across nation, and indeed across the globe, have been calling for stricter gun-control laws. 

Yet what gun-control measure could have prevented this crime? 

The state of Connecticut already has certain gun-control laws in place, at least three of which the shooter broke ...Read the latest now on WND.com. 

I want to know why his mother needed an assault rifle

and when they were purchased/registered

and why those guns were not kept locked up with a mentally ill kid in the house

and what drugs was that kid on

and what happened to the 2nd shooter

what do you want to bet we never hear the answers to those questions

I do not think there was ever confirmed that there was a 2nd shooter.

Rhonda, here in this articleitsaysthat a teacher saw 2 gunmen running...

As long as the Feds release dangerous criminals instead of deporting them, or otherwise, to go back out onto the streets, get guns and rape and or kill again, I do believe they ought not have a right to speak about  gun control. 

Ivonne...that brings up project Gladio.  This is a proven fact.  Other governments have acknowledged it.  Is this an example?

Remember in the Aurora theater shooting witnesses reported seeing 2 gun men.  What a coincidence.  I smell a rat.

I wasn't sure about Goths being satanists but they sure look the part.  I always thought of it as kids dressing weird to get attention.  But I can certainly see how it could be more than that.

Odd that this nerdy little sissy kid was the perpetrator.  Someone who could be easily over powered. 

I'll bet there is a lot more to this story than we will ever hear.

Sadly, we may never find the truth about this, but Rhonda, as you I believe this is just another example of a false flag attack.  Yes, why have they not said anything else about the witnesses account of the two men fleeing the scene.  It just does not add up at all, Adama could not have been carrying all that equipment, he was a skinny man.  It is horryfying to know the goveernment could not care less about people, especially children, the same thing they are doing in Afghanistan, etc. with the drones and children are being killed all the time.  BO pretending he was crying when he spoke!!! give me a break, what a hypocrite and a liar, he thinks he has noithing to fear about his daughters, I pray he will never have to experience the pain these parents are experiencing.  But sadly, you do reap what you sow!

I have a cousin, who does not anymore, but used to sometimes dress like goth when she lived in CA, because she thought it was fun, and some of her friends would do same.  She isn't a nut however, who looked on the dark side of things.  I do believe that many are too easily persuaded to the dark side that dress like that though, if not already, and it's appearing some are actually satanists.  I'd always thought it was just plain weird looking, so I too assumed all it was was an attention getting thing.  It still is an attention getting thing IMO, but, cast with more than a touch of weirdness. Sorry cuz....  glad you don't dress that way anymore.

" I do believe they ought not have a right to speak about  gun control." 

You are so very right Sherry.

The U.S. Government sells WMD to governments [no matter how stable or unstable they are] all around the world. Some of those governments use these weapons to KILL their own people, and the U.S, claims to be the most civilized nation in the world. Frankly I don't see where that is a true statement.

If the gov't really wanted to put an end to all these shootings they would first have to take a look at how they do business [selling chemicals and othe weapons of mass destruction to despotic govts] and then take a look at Hollywood and put an end to all these so-called action movies whose main theme is kill, kill, kill. Most recently "Expendables II". The whole movie is about shooting and killing. [ and also a video game of the same name.]

These type of movies and video games have a big effect on the weak minded, as we have been seeing over and over again

I could go on, but I think you get the point

i SURE DO fRANK, THOSE VIDEO GAMES ARE SO VIRTUAL THESE DAYS, THAT THE CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS ARE SO DISENTHATIZED BY WATCHING AND PARTAKING OF THESE GAMES AT SOME POINT THEY LOOSE SIGHT OF REALITY!

They use those video games to train our soldiers.....how ironic.  It's a form of mind control.

Most definitely agree. No way they can compare today's video games and hollyweird movies to being just as bad as Popeye whopping the skunk out of Brutus, Jerry knocking down Tom a few notches, and those type cartoons, no matter how hard they try.  I never knew a soul who watched those and turned out thinking it was cool to be violent, or did violent acts, ever had any bad thoughts associated from watching them.  They were just that-cartoons and left in cartoon land when it was over. Even some cartoons today associate, as you say with the weak minded, of being more realistic, kill the bad guy and he stays down. So much on television is all about shooting, death, stabbing, etc. that preys on the weak minded.  Not as many good quality, funny and endearing family shows as once was, or that teach that goodness and having respect, decency, stay away from lying, promoting family, or that having morals is a good thing. 

I haven't seen the Expendables II, or first one.  But it just brought to my mind of when I worked in a 24 hr. convenience store in Louisiana,  thru the night shift. I questioned others why the owner didn't have a security button for the employees, especially since a couple bad things did happen when I was there. One of his friends said that he was a great friend, but that employees were expendable.  - in a tone that implied he felt the owner was wrong to not have one,  but if that wasn't blatant....I quit working there soon as I could get another job.

While everyone has their attention focused on Newtown, Ct., no one is talking about the shooter in the Alabama hospital that shot a policeman and 2 hospital employees.  No one is talking about the kid that was arrested in Oklahoma for plotting to shoot up a high school and when the police arrived, set off bombs.  All of this within a day of the Connecticut shooting.  Doesn't this sound a little strange to you?  It sure does to me.  It sounds like "justification" to issue marshal law and ban guns nationwide.    If there had been a gun in the school office and each classroom teacher had been in possession of a gun, that shooter wouldn't have been able to kill so many innocent children......if any at all.  Guns do NOT kill people........People kill people.  To blame it on the guns is like banning all pencils because they mispell and make mistakes.  Maybe we should ban the use of all forks too and stop obesity.  Just beware of what is coming down the pike after the dictator takes his new oath of office and be surprised at nothing.  They may not be able to confiscate ALL handguns or weapons, but they can stop the manufacturing of ammo and our weapons will become useless.  Hope everyone with handguns will invest in  reloading equipment to keep their protection replenished when ammo is no longer for sale.  I used to reload my own for target practice when I was with the law enforcement.  It isn't hard, doesn't take but a couple of hours to do 2 or 3 boxes, and it's cheaper than purchasing new all the time.  

Oh-was replying back to Frank, but caught up outside talking with hubby about something.

But, no I didn't know they were using video games to train our soldiers. OMG

I sure wish all parents who could, would get their kids out of public schools today, and home school.  Or have someone they trust to do it if they cannot. The indoctrinations, the killings.....

Yep Sherry and the feds are fighting home schooling....can't indoctrinate your kids that way.  People I know who have money send their kids to private schools. 

We had Ron Paul in Texas fighting for parent's and children's rights, home schooling, invasive record keeping,  but now he will be gone.  It's a shame. 

Another disturbing thing is all the records they want to keep on children....psychological testing records. Most parents don't even realize it.   He was fighting that too as that could be used against people after they grow up....or should I say misused.

Yep Jenette....TOO BIG of a coincidence.

I do believe he will do martial law soon.....and the U.N. gun treaty.  It's going to be real hard for them to round up all the guns in Texas....in fact in most states.  I don't see how they think they can get away with it.

Ron Paul Introduced Pro-gun Legislation

Texas Congressman and GOP presidential hopeful Ron Paul continues to champion constitutional rights. His latest endeavor is a bill that would abolish “gun-free zones,” ultimately permitting teachers to carry firearms on school grounds. Predictably, anti-gun groups are calling the legislation “extremist.”

CNS News reports, “H.R. 2613, the Citizens Protection Act of 2011, would repeal the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 and remove all federally created criminal safety zones.”

The Gun-Free School Zones Act was first enacted as section 1702 of the Crime Control Act of 1990. The text of the act reads, “It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.”

Paul’s bill will permit individuals, including teachers, to carry firearms onto high-school and middle-school campuses.

The Gun-Free School Zones Act faced adamant opposition from Second Amendment advocacy groups like Gun Owners of America, which has indicated its support for Paul’s legislation.

According to a news release from Gun Owners of America, the Gun-Free School Zones Act protects criminals. The release points to attacks at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and Fort Hood, all of which are “government facilities where the private possession of firearms was prohibited.”

The release continues, “It’s time to say NO to criminal safe zones. And a great place to start is the blatantly unconstitutional Gun-free School Zones Act.”

A number of pro-gun groups argued that the shootings at Columbine High School and Platte Canyon, two high schools in Colorado, necessitated the repeal of the School Zones Act so that campuses would be safer.

Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, said that despite the intentions of the School Zones Act, it ultimately created “target-rich, no-risk environments for monsters who have no fear of encountering an armed teacher or administrator, or a legally armed private citizen who might happen to be in the building.”

"This sort of thing didn't happen before the advent of gun-free school zone laws," Gottlieb said. "You never saw such an outrage in the days when high schools typically had rifle teams, and — particularly in the West — where it was common in the fall to find both teachers and students with hunting rifles or shotguns locked in their cars.”

Gun control groups, on the other hand, believe Paul’s legislation to be dangerous and extreme.

Ladd Everitt, communications director for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, said of the bill, “It’s a horrific piece of legislation that will present a direct threat to public safety. ‘Gun-free zones,’ despite the gun lobby’s propaganda, are far and away the safest places in our country.”

Everitt asserts that the bill will likely garner support only from extremist groups:

Rep. Paul’s legislation is the latest in a series of extreme pieces of legislation to come from the National Rifle Association. Bills like this have no public support whatsoever and seek to elevate the interests of the gun industry and a tiny minority of gun owners over the wishes, well-being, and safety of American families in communities across the United States.

But Gun Owners of America points out that the federal government’s efforts have unintended consequences:

No one — including politicians, the police, or the individual citizen — can predict where the next deranged serial killer will attack. And yet politicians continue to create “criminal safe zones” such as schools, churches, parks, restaurants that serve alcohol, etc., where the law-abiding are disarmed.

 

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) said gun-free school zones have “disarmed the wrong people and left our schools, and the children inside, vulnerable to this kind of atrocity.”

I postedI in here I believe how Florida has close to 1 million concelead register weapons.Good for Floridians!

Excellent post Rhonda!!!

Great post Rhonda

Dianne Feinstein Announces Gun Ban Legislation

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Yep the coach has a good perspective

I just wish we could get school vouchers so we could defang the public school system.  Good teachers would have jobs with private schools.  Kids would learn more and not brainwashed. 

It's a darn shame isn't it?

Feinstein should be renamed FISHFACE.

Boy she is a royal pain in the a$$

It's been brought out asking the question if the Colorado and Connecticut mass murders may be linked to the Libor scandal, and how everytime something is about to be brought down on Obama, something happens.

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were ...

Yes it is Sherry, Rhonda posted it on another thread about this...

Oh. Sorry-missed the same topic you brought up Rhonda. No, it does not add up. Murders have a way of happening around anything that can be lead back to Obama. Even those murders in 2007.  I wouldn't turn on my tv to watch Obama talk about these murders when my daughter via phone told me it was on.  She finished with saying that he was fake.

Yes he's not a very good actor....I guess God has lifted the unholy spirit scales from our eyes and allowed us to see him as he really is

Alligator tears, the Nobel Prize should have been given to him on acting!!!

Nobel Peace Prize winner with a KILL LIST

IRONIC ISN'T IT?

That's what he and his are all about.- Lying, deception, manipulation, conniving, death. No conscience. 

Their  day will come,they will reap what they have sown!

OMG-My daughter just called me-tv-going to turn it on-a bomb threat or something here in san antonio at a school.

She said San Antonio news and Cambridge-I can't find anything yet.

Cambridge elementary is only 6.7 miles from me. I'm hearing the news talk about the Connecticut  massacre, but not this incident yet. My daughter's friend's child goes to this school.

So true Jeanette, bottom line,this is another excuse to ban guns.  Whye don't they concentrate on the mental health of all the children and young adults that are depressed and on medications? on their virtual video games that make them loose sight of reality?

Because that's not what they are after. Unfortunately.

Manchin Urges NRA to Discuss Gun Law Changes

A pro-gun U.S. lawmaker on Monday called on Congress and the gun industry to come together on a "sensible, reasonable approach" to curbing high-powered, assault weapons like those used in the Connecticut school shooting last week.

Sen. Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat who has earned top marks from the gun industry, said all ideas should be open for discussion after the violence on Friday that killed 20 children aged 6 and 7.

Manchin, a hunter and member of the National Rifle Association, said the availability of such high-powered weapons does not make sense and called on the gun lobby group to cooperate with a reform of the nation's gun laws.

The NRA has been an influential force against limiting gun sales and has succeeded in loosening restrictions on some high-powered combat weapons originally intended for military use.

"We've got to sit down. I ask all my friends at NRA — and I'm a proud NRA member and always have been — we need to sit down and move this dialogue to a sensible, reasonable approach to fixing it," he told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program.

Addressing the nation's gun laws are just part of a larger cultural problem in the United States, Manchin acknowledged. "But everything needs to be on the table, and I think it will be," he said.

Manchin's comments come as residents in Newtown, Conn., prepared on Monday for the first two of 20 funerals of children massacred in their classroom at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Friday. Six adults were also killed.

The rampage is the latest in a string of mass shootings nationwide this year. But its direct target of such young children has shaken even some conservatives who in the past have been staunch gun supporters.

"Every American must know from this day forward nothing can ever be the same again," said the MSNBC show's host, former lawmaker Joe Scarborough, adding later that even Republicans like him must take another look at gun laws.

"Politicians can no longer defend the status quo. They must instead be forced to defend our children," Scarborough, an NRA supporter, said in an emotional program that also questioned the role of video games and movies as well as mental illness.

Friday's shooter, Adam Lanza, was armed with hundreds of bullets in high-capacity magazines of about 30 rounds each for the Bushmaster AR 15 rifle and two handguns he carried into the school. He had a fourth weapon, a shotgun, in his car outside.

"Never before have we seen our babies slaughtered. This never happened in America, that I can recall, ever seeing this kind of carnage," said Manchin, who has earned the NRA's top “A” rating on gun issues. "This has changed where we go from here."

Representatives for the National Rifle Association did not immediately return a request for comment. The lobby group has no statement on the school shooting on its website.

On Sunday, Sen. Dianne Feinstein said she would introduce legislation this week to ban assault weapons. The Democratic lawmaker authored the previous ban that lapsed in 2004.

President Barack Obama also on Sunday called for America to change its approach to violence but did not use the word "gun."

Advocates of gun rights say Connecticut already has among the strictest gun laws in the nation.

But in Newtown, which is also home to another gun industry group, the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the shooting has touched off fierce questions about gun limits.

Manchin said hunters don't need weapons with massive reload power and that there needs to be "a common sense discussion" about reasonable gun use. "It should move beyond dialogue. We need action," he said.

He acknowledged that Congress is currently focused on resolving the so-called fiscal cliff until the end of the year but signaled movement on the gun issue after that, a sentiment echoed by other lawmakers.

"There's an opportunity now to seize this moment and do something reasonable," Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., also told MSNBC.

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