I don't post this stuff lightly, due to its sensitive nature. But this time, the evidence very damning. What a bunch of bull!
Excellent Shane, I have another thread aboutthis with evidence also, this one has even more...
I still have not heard the identity of the other 2 shooters.....wonder why ? That should be front page news. Were they CIA, or Mossad? I sure hope those children are alive.
I wonder why Loughner and the other nut Holmes didn't kill themselves or be killed....did something go wrong?
Here is another strange story but it's true and with a different outcome. Have you ever heard this one?
The striking thing to me is the Sandy Hook players demeanor....contrast that with what happened in the battle of Athens.....victims vs heros....it indicates a hoax because none of those reactions were NORMAL. Parents not allowed to see their children and just stand around like cattle? That would never happen here parents would have stampeeded into the school. That's the first big stinker in this whole scenario to me. What parent wouldn't demand to see their child? Why weren't those children immediately put in ambulances?
And that goofball medical examiner....they could have done better than that guy. Totally bad acting.
Yeah, the real clinchers for me were the Dad who laughed, then got "into character" for the press, followed by his posting memorials about his daughter days before the event, and the photo of the family, "victim" included, hanging with Obama. Sloppy. Very sloppy.
The Doctor was completely useless. Obviously didn't read his script enough.
But the worst part is, most of the places I've posted this, all I've been met with is people lashing out, calling it despicable that anyone would pretend this didn't happen, blah, blah, blah....and yet, not a one of them can say they were there, that they knew any of the families personally, nothing so far.
It's sad how up in arms people get, when they're just keeping up appearances, not willing to stick their necks out, not willing to give curiosity a chance.
I found it relieving, actually. Nobody shot? No one killed? All children likely alive and well? GREAT!!!!! Why anyone would rather wallow in sorrow over something that evidence is pointing to as a probable hoax is beyond me.
People cling to these illusions like flotsam in a hurricane sea. Normalcy bias, all the way.
yES, IN ONE OF THE VIDEOS i POSTED IN THE OTHER THREAD ABOUT THIS, CLEARLY EXPOSES THAT MAN AS AN ACTOR, FIRST HE WAS LAUGHING AND THEN HE GOT HIMSELF IN CHARACTER, SO OBVIOUS...SUCH A SCAM, IT IS SO OBVIOUS THIS WAS ALL ORCHESTRATED AS A PREAMBLE TO GUN CONTROL. AND OF COURSE, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE VICTIMS, THEY DO NOT CARE, DON'T THEY KILLED CHILDREN WEEKLY IN AFGHANISTAN AND EVERYDAY IN THIS COUNTRY WITH ABORTION...
The more often and persistantly people doubt this hoax the less likely another one will be pulled in the future. Same with 9/11. Stupid people in denial are just assuring the charades and future deaths.
Man, I'm getting FFFFFLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAACCCCCKKKKKKKKK for this one in other groups!
Some people are fairly objective, but a lot of people are lashing out without even considering the possibility. So frustrating. I'm done debating with them all. SOme claim they know people in the town, and such, and maybe there were actual casualties, after all. I hope not, but apparently there were. This does not mean that whoever was responsible wasn't put there on purpose in some way. This is all far too convenient. ANd yes, this video exposes a lot, in my opinion. That was some of the most pitiful acting I've seen. And I do like me some b-movies. 
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what groups? I'd like to add my 2 cents.
Face facts Shane those people giving you flack could pour P out of a boot with instructions on the bottom. Totally incapable of CRITICAL THINKING.
Flack meaning they can't reasonably explain the glaring discrepencies between the official story and credible truth? Sounds familiar.
Maybe you should try to pin them down with each instance of fraud. Take them one by one. I'd love to hear their explanations. Probably a bunch of paid bloggers.
Personally know the families of the victims.... I seriously doubt that. I've come across some total frauds in some of these groups and the more outrageous their claims the more they out themselves. Made up people telling made up lies. Claiming death but no obituary to be found anywhere. That one really gets me. Like the family wouldn't print an obit. in the local paper??? They kill off one identity when it starts losing all credibility and emerge as a new one, who always by the way has profound respect for the old identity.
I'd like to see some photographic proof of them posing with the victim's families. Bet that doesn't exist. I can usually spot a bad photoshop job.
Amen and amen Rhonda, please e-mail me...
I wouldn't pretend to know what exactly happened at Sandy Hook, because I've invested all my energy since then learning about guns and gun politics, not "what happened." I do think that mass crime scenes with hundreds of people in the area have a lot to sort through, and one shouldn't jump to conclusions. People have some pretty good reasons to be running through the woods if they hear shooting. Wouldn't you want to get the hell away from whatever is going on? I haven't looked at the forensic evidence. I don't even know what forensic evidence is available to the public at this point.
The video does one thing truly obnoxious at one point, which caused me to turn it off. It lectures a man about how he's supposed to grieve. Don't ever do that to someone. Some people laugh, some people cry, some people fall silent, some people do all of the above at different times. If someone had the nerve to come up to my grieving family member and start lecturing them about how they're supposed to grieve, I'd give them about 1.5 seconds to back off. And if they pushed, frankly I'd deck 'em, and take my chances with the assault charge in front of a jury.
A month after 9/11 I was in an airport, headed for a cheap trip to Vegas because so many people were afraid to fly. I had heightened awareness of everyone's mood and disposition. I found myself profiling a man with a turban. Then I saw the Congressional style USA pin on his lapel, and I was ashamed that I had been thinking that way. Still I kept my eyes open for anything unusual. The most unusual guy I saw was a white man with a funny briefcase, not typical of the kinds of luggage people bring in airports. I sorta profiled him... by talking to him about "stuff." Guess why he looked odd? Because he had just come from a funeral, his brother's if I remember correctly. So I thought to myself, "Way to go dipshit" and stopped playing these games of second guessing people.
Actually I might not deck 'em. It's hard to know what I'd actually do in such circumstances. I've certainly had plenty of people "in my face" before where I did nothing but stand my ground and talk calmly, but I didn't have a family member to protect either. I know for fact I'd get physically between them, direct the family member to leave, and tell the asshole in no uncertain terms that he's not following. Maybe I would physically obstruct him. Maybe my verbal threat alone would be enough and the situation would end. If I were the kind of person to carry pepper spray, maybe I'd pepper spray 'em. Who knows. But I know I would not allow someone to continue torturing my grieving family member about "how they're supposed to grieve."
Why do people presume they can sit in their armchairs across the internet and just poke holes in everything? Where are the standards of evidence?
Oh yeah and political protests around funerals, and a few hours before and after the funeral, should be illegal. Sign the petition.
Well said Brandon. True critical thinking. Not jumping on the Conspriacy theory bandwagon.
"Like the family wouldn't print an obit. in the local paper??? "
BTW, Cam Vallee's family didn't. You have to payf ro those obits.
And here is Emilie Parker's obituary.
http://www.myers-mortuary.com/_mgxroot/page_10729.php?id=1150270
thanks Nancy for posting it...
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My family always prints an obituary. Kind of impractical not to since there are so many people it's impossible to call them all. A lot of people showed up at both my parent's funerals that I didn't even know and had never met but they knew my parents. The obituary as I recall did not cost much money...about 25.00. A small price to pay for someone you loved having their friends come say goodbye. Of course if you want to check someone's death you could call the clerk's office too....most deaths are recorded. I'm just saying it's very odd to me that someone wouldn't print an obituary.
Yes people do greive differently, Irish have wakes like a party. But I agree with that video maker all that smiling was not normal so soon after a tragedy. The father who was laughing and then went into character was also unbelievable. Nobody grieving does that. I've never seen it. It looked to me like bad acting. Use common sense.
Nancy of course the govt. would print an obit if it was a false flag. They sure failed on so many other levels though it's amazing to me more people are not questioning it.
It just doesn't pass the smell test.
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With so many conspiracies proven NOT to be just theories I would think I'd hear less and less of the allegation of conspiracy theorists. Every citizen has a duty to question anything that looks suspicious.
Also the timing of these events have been building up to a crescendo with the possible passage of the U.N. Gun Treaty. Too much of a coincidence. Then Obama comes out with more executive orders to ban certain guns and clips??? Duh?
The U.N. means to ban all small arms. I am disgusted with Americans seeing a police state building up around them with total survelience plus the unconstitutional laws like Patriot Act and NDAA yet they don't even blink an eye.
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Nancy of course the govt. would print an obit if it was a false flag. They sure failed on so many other levels though it's amazing to me more people are not questioning it.
It just doesn't pass the smell test."
Yes, and the families of 20 kids who now have no identity went along with it. Emilie Parker will never be Emilie Parker again. And all the funeral homes went along with it including one in Utah.
And yes, people are asking all kinds of questions. They are just reaching different conclusions.
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Remember that's why this group got it's name.....WE THE SHEEPLE
the whole purpose of this group is to question....or am I wrong?
YOu aren't wrong. What I said is that we reach different conclusions.
And BTW, I have found an obituary for every single Newtown victim that I havce checked. Haven't checked them all.
So what are you asserting Nancy? That Emilie's dad is just crazy and inappropriate and that the picture of Emilie with Obama was photo shopped? I guess it's possible but hardly likely.
Different conclusions but with no basis. Tell me why you think this wasn't a set up? Always a LONE gunman yet witnesses report more shooters. All those witnesses are just crazy? No one allowed on the crime scene not even the parents much less an ambulance to and doctors to attend? Standing around like props? Medical examiner also a dope?
Just as the Gabby Giffords shooting proper security is the last thing they want ....because it might not work out the way they want it to. Some citizen with a gun might stop it as so often happens but is not publicized.
OK there are obituaries but I never contested that about the Newtown shooting....I did say some of these deaths on Care2 members are very suspicious.
http://www.kendallharmon.net/t19/index.php/t19/article/44238/
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"So what are you asserting Nancy? That Emilie's dad is just crazy and inappropriate and that the picture of Emilie with Obama was photo shopped? I guess it's possible but hardly likely."
I have seen several threads totally debunking the idea that it was Emilie in the photo. Go do your research and find out about that.
Why would twenty families pretend their child is dead and have funerals and obituaries? Thnik about that. The identity previously known as Emilie Parker is now dead. Does she have a different name now? Is she with a different family> Why would a 6 yr old go along with this? Please explain.
I'm not saying she would go along with it ---but a 6 year old doesn't have a lot of options. If her parents go along with it maybe they were deceived or maybe they were in on it. How many hard core progressive liberals would not think they were doing something noble by banning guns? I can't even fathom the skewed logic of liberals who support Obama.
The govt. has set up bigger farces than this before. Gulf of Tolkien, 9/11, Oklahoma City Bombing.
You think they would hesitate to kill children? What about Waco? They could have picked up Koresh in town...he went to town often....and not endangered those children. Remember the excuse for that...illegal guns.
Operation Northwoods was shooting innocent civilians to start a war with Cuba. JFK stopped it but it was a plan that might have happened.
How do we know that this wasn't just one more example of pushing legislation by public opinion using a tragedy. I'm just hoping it was a total farce and none of those kids really got killed but I wouldn't put it past them
If we were really dealing with reality and honesty here wouldn't the instances of citizens stopping crime be just as reported as these other kind? There is media silence on them so that tells me there is an AGENDA
It's possible that the shooting was real, but the Parker family was inserted into the mix as the unofficial "spokesmen" for the gov'ts push for gun control. When they interview real people on the news, they usually sound about as sharp as a bowling ball, let's face it.
So, the Parker family does their piece to put over the emotional toll of the event, horrifying America, priming us for acceptance of the stripping down of yet another cornerstone of what's left of the constitution and what makes America, America.
