OBL has passed away.
He was blamed by the U.S. to have orchestrated the event and so killed almost 3.000.
September 11, 2001 was the pretext to invade several countries, rape, steal, plunder countries and murder millions of innocent civilians and build dozens of U.S. military bases in the occupied countries.
- This on the one hand.
And 9/11 as the mother of the meanwhile globalized, so called War On Terror.
What is your take on 9/11 WTS members - and could it have been prevented ?
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I believe it was, there is too much proof of it by professionals in the field of engineering, architecture, etc. how those buildings collapsed.
Your opinion to mirror the majority of Americans - according to a poll Ivonne but
- Ten Years Later, Belief in Iraq Connection With 9/11 Attack Persists
- Nearly two-thirds of Republicans still believe Iraq had WMDs when we invaded nine years ago!
Despite the fact that it makes no difference which political direction to support - the flight path is the same and is not influenced or directed by any puppet actors to be sent for election campaign; but an average of about 42% Americans across political camps still believe that Iraq had WMD’s in his stocks. (Sept 2011).
The above question, if 9/11 was done by Arab Extremists or not is essential as the entire War On Terror is based on September 11, 2001
Therefore, I was asking if 9/11 could have been prevented in the run-up of the event.
Prevented? maybe yes and maybe no, I lean more towards no!
Prevented Ivonne, made impossible.
If, let's say, the knowledge - or suspicion was provided by several 'friendly' Secret Services and/or various other sources - and thus responsible authorities were warned prior 9/11 (hmm, let's say months before ?) - and acted accordingly.
Hypothetically spoken of course - precautionary measures of care and welfare to prevent harm to it's confided citizen or damage to buildings; Not more than the same care tax-paying citizens would expect from their gov.
What I asked myself was who benefitted?
Israel benefitted....Netanbombyou even said it was GOOD for Israel...a psychopath's logic required to make such an inappropriate statement.
Bush & cronies benefitted....they made a killing on war profiteering. Bush's popularity rose and his power. This allowed him to attack Iraq and Afghanistan plus pass the unconstitutional patriot act and start behaving like a king.
Larry Silverstein benefitted - he made out like a bandit, huge insurance payoff for small investment, plus he'd have had to pay a fortune and suffer a great loss to get rid of the asbestos in the buildings.
Those who robbed the gold hidden in the basement of building 7 surely benefitted. It still hasn't been all accounted for from what I've read.
The military industrial complex benefitted by receiving trillions of dollars...oddly enough Rumsfeld had just announced the day before 9/11 that 2.3 trillion was missing from the Pentagon budget. 9/11 took everybody's mind of that little oversight didn't it?
Missing evidence ?...I believe that there were records stored there that certain criminals wanted destroyed. Investigations stopped. People silenced.
When you look at it from who benefitted there were a lot of reasons to do it....and not many reasons not too.
I feel very sad that people want to be in denial about 9/11 because a wise man once said
Those who forget the past are CONDEMNED to relive it.
The most remarkable thing to me was what happened immediately before 9/11 at the stock market. People had to know to make these UNUSUAL trades. No real investigation into that either.
Insider Trading Pre-9/11 Put Options on Companies Hurt by Attack Indicates Foreknowledge
Financial transactions in the days before the attack suggest that certain individuals used foreknowledge of the attack to reap huge profits. 1 The evidence of insider trading includes:
- Huge surges in purchases of put options on stocks of the two airlinesused in the attack -- United Airlines and American Airlines
- Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of reinsurance companiesexpected to pay out billions to cover losses from the attack -- Munich Re and the AXA Group
- Surges in purchases of put options on stocks of financial services companieshurt by the attack -- Merrill Lynch & Co., and Morgan Stanley and Bank of America
- Huge surge in purchases of call options of stock of a weapons manufacturerexpected to gain from the attack -- Raytheon
- Huge surges in purchases of 5-Year US Treasury Notes
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You put that right Rhonda, in my article, I link to I have pointed out it is absolutely NOT odd to question 9/11 !
Everything is explained in the last 11 years with 9/11; all wars, all restraints on liberty and all the police state laws.
And, Rhonda, about my previous question, I mean, for what the United States has the largest intelligence agency, the largest police organization and the largest military machine in the world ?
How about you learn, your family and neighborhood will be attacked by a sniper in one week from today.
No, let's really assume this attack for a moment is imminent.
A dozend of innocent people could die by insidious murder.
Would you take any precautions ?
Or file or destroy all the treatening letters you got and continue as usual ?
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let's see if this video comes up this time
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People here were incredibly scared about the terrorist acts and it's not exaggerated, the world was shocked.
But I mean, this can't compare to what the involved families losing family member(s) had to suffer and the entire staffing of the corporation of America.
How could this happen was the question and just a day later the world knew it was Osama Bin Laden and his teror troupe behind the dramatic event where four towers were pulverized and ~ 3.000 died immediately.
Yes, four towers with 2 airplanes.
I will never forget that day
& I will never forget who did it either
There will be an accounting....Poppy can't live forever, nor can Dubya, nor can Cheney, nor can Rumsfeld. God will seperate the sheep from the goats.
The main duty of any president is to protect his CITIZENS
The stink associated with BUSH FAMILY is never going to fade away
Let them try to run Jeb in 2016 .....I dare them to try.
Those who are deceived may God open their eyes.
the video, Rhonda posted, embedded
wow, Rhonda, great video. If I knew some of these facts, I would have added it into my research.
The proper questions are asked - why would a government do something like that ?
But so far I have not added my research to WTS.
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Thanks Parsifal....I can't get these videos to post correctly....how do you do it?
that's easy Rhonda.
Do not use the short link.
Use the link you get when you copy it from the browser.
Then drop all the ballast.
put the video: before and here we go.
you posted this above Rhonda:
The first part is o.k.
then cut off/drop the following:
Put it together
The connection of the embedded link, so to say the link in the link must look like:
... watch?v= ...
An other one:
cut off, forget:
so it remains:
easy, yeah ?
You gotta love Bill Cooper for pointing out a CNN reporter could find bin Laden but our 16 intelligence agencies couldn't find him?
Impossible to believe
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Oh come on Rhonda, you believe that the plane that crashed into the Pentagon was targeting a specific section of the building? That's just dumb. My memory is that the primary target wasn't the Pentagon at all, but the White House. Plane couldn't make the maneuver for some reason so chose the alternate target. In fairness I do not have a source for that; it's something I remember reading back in the day. But it was a friggin' airplane crashing into stuff, not a bunker busting cruise missile. Get for real about weapons capabilities and likely planning.
If you want to stare at clouds in the sky and scream, "They're evil! They're evil!" well you're gonna see evil. I guess not everyone is cut out to be either a research scientist or a lawyer. You have to be able to look at the evidence more objectively, and entertain conclusions other than the ones you want to entertain. The basic lack of thought I have seen in all the 9/11 Truther stuff, is "if you really were Al Qaeda, and you really did wish to plan this operation, how would you do it?" Instead all the investigative energy goes into "discrepancies." A plausible narrative of how a terrorist enemy would engage in asymmetric warfare is not developed, because that's not fun / sexy / shocking / revealing of some Big Secret Conspiracy.
It's the same thing as the liberal loony gun grabbers screaming about Newton. If you were planning a mass murder, how would you do it? Well, frankly you'd do it like the Virginia Tech killer. Not only did he bring 2 handguns and 19 magazines carrying 10 or 15 rounds each, he also brought chains to seal the doors with. He had a fairly simple plan: shoot everyone at point blank range with handguns. Worked great! 32 dead, more than anyone has ever done. Yet because liberals aren't willing to put their head in the mindset of the actual killer, they concoct all sorts of baloney about how it's an AR-15's fault. Killing people at point blank range when they can't escape is fairly straightforward.
Brandon V. said
you believe that the plane that crashed into the Pentagon was targeting a specific section of the building? That's just dumb. My memory is that the primary target wasn't the Pentagon at all, but the White House.
We are not speaking about the official conspiracy theory here.
Having said that, you maybe should know I have read the other day, the earth is flat and the sun evolves around her.
Vaccinations are good for newborn children and Preesident Obama caring for his citizen.
We-The-Sheeple IMO is a group to ask questions and not to get answers to contain the official version of one of the greatest conspiracies against humankind.
If not the greatest.
Nobody in this thread was asking anything about Sandy Hook.
As far as my poor English is telling me topic is Was 9/11 staged ?
Sorry Rhonda !
At the link you provided
there was a petition -
- I am guessing only Americans may sign the petition
Yes,let's stay within the subject of 911, a lot of evidence has been presented here, is there any evidence to the contrary?
I did not just start with providing any evidence Ivonne
The U.S. government and the media ridicule us because relating 9/11 we question and not believe everything that is told us and not swallow nicely.
They put us in the plot area, entitle us as screwballs and say our 'conspiracy theories' are a figment of morbid imagination and absurd.
Who the official version of September 11, 2001 doubts belongs in the loony bin, because not sane.
Well then, let's look what the official 'conspiracy theory' looks like.
Yes, because it's only a theory about a conspiracy, as they have proved nothing, but merely stated that Osama bin Laden from his hideout in Afghanistan conspired with 19 of his followers to perform an operation to attack America.
The following has enumerated a real American Patriot, Paul Craig Roberts, a former member of the Reagan administration in the U.S. Treasury, how 9/11 should have happened:
According to the Bush administration, a handful of Arabs, mainly nationals from Saudi Arabia, operating independently of any government and competent intelligence service and without assistance from any government agency, without being helped by a secret service, trained or funded, so any persons, the one taken from the street, which had no military training, no ability to operate in secret ... who the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and all other 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, including the foreign intelligence agencies of U.S. allies, such as MI6, Mossad, BND, and how it all hot tricked, and without that they have noticed anything can take years of preparation in order for America to enter and carry out the attack.
Not only did the entire intelligence forces of the Western world fail, but on the morning of the attack the entire apparatus of the National Security State simultaneously failed.
Airport security failed four times in one hour.
Air Traffic Control failed.
The US Air Force failed.
Let's count the chances of that happening.
1 in 1 million?
Then they were the invisible super spies or something?
But it goes on.
Not only ALL secret services of the Western world have failed completely in advance, but also the entire military defense of the United States and the entire air traffic control on that particular day, all the same!
Starting with the failure of 19 individual security checks at various airports, which found no 'box cutters' at the kidnappers.
The crew of the four aircraft failed and not prevented kidnapping.
The eight pilots have failed because no one has sent a distress signal.
The air traffic control with radar monitoring has failed.
NORAD then failed, the North American Air and Space Defense Command.
The U.S. Air Force has failed and has not even come in the vicinity of the hijacked planes with interceptors.
The Pentagon has failed and could not protect its own headquarters, although two machines had already struck the WTC.
All have failed on that day and have not carried out the tasks for which they were trained for years and get paid for this done correctly.
That means the world’s only superpower was completely helpless and complete humiliated by a group of amateurs.
This state, which spends more per year for his defense than all other countries in the world together, was completely defenseless and could allegedly do nothing.
This tale should we believe ?
Is there a more absurd conspiracy theory than this ?
What then comes to that, no one, and I repeat, not a single one responsible at the intelligence services, at airports, air traffic control, at NORAD, the Air Force, the PentaGram or elsewhere was reprimanded therefore, initiated proceedings on grounds of violation, and punished.
On the contrary, President Bush has promoted numerous military officers.
How that's going ?
Both the House and Senate as the highest supervisory authority over the state, yet the American media as the fourth power in the state and is also tasked with monitoring, have NOT requested an investigation of this total failure of the entire national defense or ordered.
They have also not demanded punishment of those responsible.
NO, it was not until the families of the victims, called Jersey Girls, FOUR women have lost their husbands on September 11, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Lorie Van Auken and Mindy Kleinberg, who lived in New Jersey, which lobbied with the U.S. government, forced them to open an investigation.
Reluctantly, and equipped with very little budget, a year after the attacks the Commission began with the work in November 2002 and published its results in August 2004.
Meanwhile, however, all evidence was removed, cleaned the crime scenes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania, and covers the tracks.
With each murder is working better, immediately started investigation and secured the evidence, all meticulously tested.
So we see in every CSI episode on TV.
Then happened the greatest crime in American history, nearly 3.000 people were killed and they wanted nothing really investigate, either forget it, 'here you get to see nothing, go on, go back to work and consume'.
First, Bush had the audacity to choose Henry Kissinger as chairman.
Speak of the devil.
After massive protests was then apart from that and Thomas Kean and Lee H. Hamilton determined.
But the whole thing was a farce, because the Commission was not independent and had no powers.
There were no experts consulted and ignored many witness statements or suppressed.
They could not find out the truth and the whole thing was a white wash action.
The Final 9/11 Commission Report is a fairy tale and so full of issues which had not been examined a
The Final 9/11 Commission Report is a fairy tale and so full of issues which had not been examined and discussed, with gaps and holes so large, a Boeing 757 can fly through.
For example, not a a single word was mentioned on September 11 also a third skyscraper, the WTC7 collapsed in free fall and has dissolved into dust, although not hit by a plane.
The Commission was not interested at all how it occurred.
The explanation of the U.S. government, on what had happened that day, subject to the greatest failure of the security and defense of the America one can imagine, is completely implausible, says Roberts.
That would mean, if the United States is so easy to 'crack' was what happened only with a high-tech enemy that has all sorts of military and intelligence resources ?
Then if I were American would be scared to death !
Thank God the Russians and Chinese do not know !
Which could with a single stroke within five minutes completely destroy America if it was so easy.
Attacking bombers would only have to disable the transponder and they were invisible to the American radar.
Such a BS to tell us anyway the media, which should have been the reason why the hijacked planes were not stopped.
I mean, for what the United States has the largest intelligence agency, the largest police organization and the largest military machine in the world ?
For which nearly USD 2 trillion from taxpayers money annually are spent ?
Since only 19 amateurs have to come with box cutters and America is already on the ground, they tell us, anyway.
Those who believe the official explanation of the U.S. government, are the real nutcase, have a morbid imagination, and should be taken to madhouse, because that's the most absurd conspiracy theory of all.
When faced in the future with 9/11 believers, then one just has to repeat the official conspiracy theory as listed above, and then ask, 'do you really think the whole secret services of the entire world and the entire security apparatus of the U.S. superpower have all failed at the same time and could easily be tricked by 19 amateurs ?'
So goofy not hundreds of thousands of agents, police and officials can be.
The least what happened is that U.S. leadership has done it consciously and deliberately, which would be the greatest treason.
You are doing great Parsifal, I meant with Brandon going off the subject at hand...
that bean bag chair was a nice touch ! Ha ha ha
Incredible that people actually believed that he was hiding in a cave directing the whole thing. NATO forces sure made jackasses of themselves claiming there were elaborate bunkers around Tora Bora and all they could find were abandoned ratty little caves.
I just saw a video on that elaborate bunker they claimed was there yesterday. It was hilarious.
Brandon it was actually a missile that hit the pentagon. Somebody leaked some footage recently.
As far as I could tell that petition probably was only for Americans to contact their sheriff's and police captians about upholding the constitution and investigating 9/11. They may not know anything more than we do but it will put them on notice for the next one.
"That means the world’s only superpower was completely helpless and complete humiliated by a group of amateurs.
This state, which spends more per year for his defense than all other countries in the world together, was completely defenseless and could allegedly do nothing.
This tale should we believe ?
Is there a more absurd conspiracy theory than this ?"
Yep that's exactly what you should believe. And look at the history of tons of other wars while you're trying to wrap your heads around tactical innovation. I'm trying to imagine the Truther back in Roman times who couldn't understand how Hannibal achieved total envelopment and annihilation of the Roman legions at Cannae. The modern analogy is, the US defense apparatus was designed to fight the Soviet Union, not Arab terrorists. A science fiction analogy would be, the Rebels blow up the Death Star because they find a weakness to exploit the big, overbearing machine.
Why not read a book on the tactics of asymmetric warfare? You'd learn something. I made the Sandy Hook analogy because much as you guys don't know anything about warfare, the loony liberals don't know anything about how guns work.
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9/11–Enemies Foreign and Domestic
Secret Evidence Censored from the Official Record
Proves Traitors Aided Israel in Attacking the USA
From the Introduction:
"The official government conspiracy theory is that on the morning of September 11, 2001, 19 Arabs nearly simultaneously hijacked four planes using box cutters and purposely crashed one plane into the Pentagon, crashed two others into each of the World Trade Center Twin Towers, and the fourth plane crashed in Shankesville, Pennsylvania as a result of the passengers rising up and trying to get control of the plane from the hijackers. This book will prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the government’s conspiracy theory is a preposterous cover story. The truth is that the attacks on 9-11 were perpetrated by Israel, aided and abetted by high officials in the U.S. Government."
The evidence in 911 Enemies Foreign and Domestic has been suppressed from the official government reports and censored from the mass media. 9/11–Enemies Foreign and Domestic documents hard irrefutable evidence that directed energy weapons were used on 9/11/2001, which turned the towers to dust. Edward Hendrie also proves that the media was complicit in the 911 attacks. He documents his findings with over 600 endnotes.
9/11–Enemies Foreign and Domestic identifies the traitors by name and details their subversive crimes. There is sufficient evidence in 9/11–Enemies Foreign and Domestic to indict important officials of the U.S. Government for high treason. The reader will understand how the U.S. Government really works and what Sir John Harrington (1561-1612) meant when he said: “Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? Why if it prosper, none dare call it treason.”
There are millions of Americans who have taken an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. The mass media, which is under the control of a disloyal cabal, keeps those patriotic Americans ignorant of the traitors among them. J. Edgar Hoover, former Director of the FBI, explained: “The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous - he simply cannot believe it exists.” 9/11–Enemies Foreign and Domestic erases any doubt about the existence of the monstrous conspiracy described by Hoover and arms the reader with the knowledge required to save our great nation. “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6.
Click link to read more: http://www.911enemies.com/
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Thanks Henriette for posting this!!!
Wow....I'd love to read that book
After all I've been reading it sounds 100% correct
I'd like to see them come to justice, that would do wonders for our current situation
I always had a feeling that when Bush and Obama met that was what the meeting was about. CYA
I can't find that newest video about the missile hitting the pentagon but this is a pretty good one....note the American Airlines logo and the little windows painted on the missile
That 2nd one was pretty comprehensive....why can't we get a real investigation?
Urgent: Scientists Confirm Explosives Used to Demolish Towers on 9/11...
Physics Journal Publishes Hard Peer-reviewed Evidence of WTC Explosives...
Twenty-five Military Officers Call Official 9/11 story "Impossible", "Ludicrous", "A well-organized cover-up", investigate 911 now...
Majority of 9/11 Commissioners Now Say Government Lied...
1,000 Architects & Engineers "calling for a Grand Jury investigation of NIST officials"...
Scientists find Nano-thermite explosives (estimated at over 10-tons) at the World Trade Center catastrophe.
Nano-thermite explosives shown above were gathered from the WTC debris shortly after the towers fell on 9/11. Brigham Young University Physics Professor, Dr. Steven Jones, discovered the explosives and joined an international team of nine scientists for further analysis. Through extensive laboratory testing, the scientists concluded that the samples were Nano-thermitic explosives. After a rigorous peer-review process, their paper was published in the Bentham Chemical Physics Journal, which has been endorsed by Nobel Laureates and is respected within the scientific community.
The paper's first author is Dr. Niels Harrit, a 37-year Professor of Chemistry at Copenhagen University in Denmark and an expert in Nano-chemistry, who says, "The official account put forth by NIST violates the fundamental laws of physics."
Over a thousand architects, engineers, academics, and high-ranking military officers, as well as hundreds of 9/11 firemen, survivors, and family members have challenged the government's conspiracy theory. Twenty-five military officers call the official 9/11 story, "Impossible", "Ludicrous", "A well-organized cover-up". Forty-one U.S. counter-terrorism and intelligence agency veterans challenge the official 9/11 account, calling it, "terribly flawed", "laced with contradictions", "a joke", "a cover-up".
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The majority of 9/11 Commissioners now say that the government lied about 9/11, including its Chairman, Thomas Kean (Republican), Vice Chairman, Lee Hamilton (Democrat), and its Senior Legal Counsel, John Farmer, who states, "there was an agreement not to tell the truth."
According to a scientific poll by New York Times & CBS News, only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11, while 81% think it is hiding something or mostly lying. CNN poll shows that 89% believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11.
America is Being Overthrown
Our Freedom is in Danger
Please Help Sound the Alarm NOW!
"The people are masters of both Congress and courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it!" --U.S. President Abraham Lincoln
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force Director of Advanced Space Programs, under Presidents Ford and Carter, says "The official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It's impossible." (source)
My name is Dr. Robert Bowman, and I have concluded that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It's impossible.
There's a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don't want us to know what happened and who's responsible. Based on the facts, I believe that 9/11 was an insidious watershed event, which is crucial in understanding the reality that our government and mainstream media have been hijacked. As former U.S. Air Force Director of Advanced Space Programs Development, under Presidents Ford and Carter, I have been privy to a vast array of classified documents and maintain numerous high level contacts. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that our Republic has been overthrown from within and that we can unite to get it back.
Republican and Democratic Parties are "Two-Wings" of the same treasonous bird. A "Supranational Banking Cartel", based within the private ownership of the Federal Reserve System, administered through the CFR, has usurped their leadership. This Cartel is in collusion with large stockowners of numerous "Supranational Corporations", such as those of "Big Oil", "Big Pharma", and the "Industrial Military Complex". Their criminal agenda is covered-up by their corporately controlled media monopoly, which deceives the public with carefully scripted propaganda—designed to divide and conquer "We the People", into utter slavery—under an incrementally imposed "Scientific Dictatorship." (sources 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9)
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The solution is a mass awakening of "We the People", who must unite and organize "Truth Squads" to literally sound thousands of "Liberty Bells" that our Freedom is in grave danger. We must become active in grass-root endeavors to vet and insure that only "Genuine Patriots" remain as our elected representatives. Every public servant, from City Councilperson to President, must become an "Untouchable", who understands our Dire situation, and who remains Loyal to the values of our United States Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and the sprit of Freedom, in which they embody.
We are a peaceful, nonpartisan group of concerned Patriots, who are aligned with a "Hybrid Headless" organizational strategy, in alliance with U.S. Military Intelligence and other officials, whose goal is to restore our Constitutional Republic and prosecute the treasonous insurgents behind our government's usurpation. We advocate a nonviolent "counter-coup d'état". Once accomplished, we intend to have the ill-gotten wealth of the "Banking Cartel" confiscated and returned to its rightful owners—"We the People".
Our purpose is to provide evidence for your own investigation, as well as effective solutions to protect our self-government from this insidious infiltration. Once you have formed a conclusion, should it be in the affirmative, we ask not for money or a purchase, but for your participation in the "Great Awakening", as a properly informed and mobilized populous will naturally repel tyranny.
"We are conditioned to think that conspiracies are only conjectures and the domain of the lunatic fringe—when a conspiracy is nothing but another name for cartels, monopolies, cabals, combines, etc. This is simply another bait and switch tactic to confuse us from seeing the truth." --Chris Gupta
"Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like the evil spirits at the dawn of day." --U.S. President Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Pierre S. du Pont de Nemours, April 24, 1816
Colonel George Nelson, U.S. Air Force Aircraft Accident Investigator, "Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." (source)
Colonel George Nelson says, "As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history." --Colonel George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force Aircraft Accident Investigator, Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College, 34-year Air Force career
This is not a joke. This is a genuine national emergency. We are living in one of the most parlous times in history—literally on the knifes edge of of a hellish "Scientific Dictatorship". Our Republic is being incrementally usurped from within, by a sociopathic "Oligarchy" of "Supranational Banksters".
We document hard scientific evidence that 9/11 was indeed a "False Flag" operation to further a much larger criminal agenda, which is more diabolical than Hitler's Nazi Germany. We present corroborating evidence by numerous experts and credible witnesses, including independent and government studies.
Please join us by mobilizing your spear of influence to inform "We the People" of this criminal agenda. Once a "Critical Mass" is awakened to who the enemy is, and the urgency of the threat—game over.
"The case for government by elites is irrefutable." --Senator William Fulbright, Chairman of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, The Elite and the Electorate: Is Government by the People Possible?
"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite." --Senator William Jenner, 1954
"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --Albert Einstein
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." --Charles Darwin
"What then is, generally speaking, the truth of history? A fable agreed upon." --Napoleon Bonaparte
"History is the lie commonly agreed upon." --Voltaire (unsourced)
Lieutenant Colonel Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program, says that he is "100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government." (source)
"After 4+ years of research since retirement in 2002, I am 100% convinced that the attacks of September 11, 2001 were planned, organized, and committed by treasonous perpetrators that have infiltrated the highest levels of our government. It is now time to take our country back. ...We cannot let the pursuit of justice fail. Those of us in the military took an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic." Just because we have retired does not make that oath invalid, so it is not just our responsibility, it is our duty to expose the real perpetrators of 9/11 and bring them to justice, no matter how hard it is, how long it takes, or how much we have to suffer to do it. We owe it to those who have gone before us who executed that same oath, and who are doing the same thing in Iraq and Afghanistan right now. Those of us who joined the military and faithfully executed orders that were given us had to trust our leaders.
The violation and abuse of that trust is not only heinous, but ultimately the most accurate definition of treason!" --Lieutenant Colonel Guy S. Razer, MS Aeronautical Science, U.S. Air Force (ret), U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot, former instructor; U.S. Air Force Fighter Weapons School and NATO's Tactical Leadership Program
We ask that you organize your neighbors in alliance with your local and state governments, to expose this dire situation. Spread the word via the internet by posting pamphlets on cars, going door-to-door within your neighborhoods, and alerting churches. Use meetup.com to locate, organize, and inform "Patriot Groups" throughout the U.S.
"The barbarians are not at the gates, they are inside the gates – and have academic tenure, judicial appointments, government grants, and control of the movies, television, and other media. The question of the hour – and of the next century – is whether all this can be turned around." --Dr. Thomas Sowell, 1994, Professor of Economics, Stanford University
Wayne Madsen, U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer, National Security Agency and State Department, says that 9/11 was "a highly-compartmentalized covert operation to bring about a fascist coup in this county."
"After five years of talking to many individuals in the intelligence community, in the military, foreign intelligence agencies, and a whole host of other people, people from the air traffic control community, the FAA, I came to the conclusion that after five years what we saw happen on that morning of September 11, 2001, was the result of a highly-compartmentalized covert operation to bring about a fascist coup in this country. ...These people need to be brought to justice, if not by our own Congress, then by an international tribunal in The Hague, in the Netherlands. Bush, Blair, Rumsfeld, Cheney should be sitting in the same dockets where Milosevic and the Croatia-Serbia war criminals sat." --Wayne Madsen, former U.S. Navy Intelligence Officer, specialist in electronic surveillance and security. Formerly assigned to the National Security Agency and the State Department.
There is a "Peaceful Patriot Counter-Coup" happening as we speak, which includes many high-ranking officials in U.S. Military Intelligence, who are implementing this Constitutional strategy. We ask for your help by becoming "Paul Reveres for Freedom". Please inform everyone you meet that our Republic has been overthrown and that "We the People", in alliance with our military, are uniting to take it back.
"World War III will be a guerrilla information war, with no division between military and civilian participation." --Marshall McLuhan
"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." --Desiderius Erasmus, Adagia (III, IV, 96), Dutch author, philosopher, and scholar (1466 - 1536)
Lieutenant Colonel Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps, fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions, says that "our government has been hijacked by means of a new Pearl Harbor". (source)
"Our government has been hijacked by means of a "new Pearl Harbor" and a lot of otherwise good and decent people who are gullible enough to think that the first three steel-framed buildings in history fall down because they have some fires that the fire fighter on the scene said could be knocked down with a couple of hoses and through which people walked before they were photographed looking out the holes where the plane hit. One of these, building 7, was never hit by a plane and even NIST is ashamed to advance a reason for its collapse... This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future... Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away. If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful... to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you? Journal of 9/11 Studies has developed reams of peer-reviewed scientific evidence. Michael Ruppert published an exhaustive account of the case from the viewpoint of a trained investigator. Professor David Ray Griffin provides a context for the unanswered or badly answered questions that should nag at anyone who pretends to love this country... September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes. The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible, may signal the end of the American experiment. It has been used to justify all manners of measures to legalize repression at home and as a pretext for behaving as an aggressive empire abroad. Until we demand an independent, honest, and thorough investigation and accountability for those whose action and inaction led to those events and the cover-up, our republic and our Constitution remain in the gravest danger." --Lieutenant Colonel Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret), fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions flown
"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody will see it." --Mahatma Gandhi
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." --Voltaire (apocryphal and oft-cited), actually Evelyn Beatrice Hall, written under the pseudonym S. G. Tallentyre in her 1906 biographical book The Friends of Voltaire
Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command says, "The plane does not fit in that hole (referring to the 16' hole in the Pentagon, allegedly made by a Boeing 757 on 9/11, e.g., no holes left by its engines)." (source)
Regarding the 16' hole that the alleged jetliner made in the Pentagon, General Stubblebine says, "The plane does not fit in that hole. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on? ... We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this." Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981-1984, Head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence, and inductee into the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
Please get involved and become our government from the local level up, so that we will not be forced to defend ourselves from a usurped government. Now is the time for Democrats, Republicans, and all others to lead the way, by uniting "We the People" to defend our beloved country.
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty." --U.S. President Thomas Jefferson
General Wesley Clark, U.S. Army, Supreme Allied Commander Europe, 1997 - 2001, says the right after 9/11, he was given a classified document, which illustrated plans "to take out seven countries in five years", indicating that 9/11 was planed as the catalyst for war. (source)
General Wesley Clark, U.S. Army, Supreme Allied Commander Europe 1997 - 2001. General Clark says that our two-party system is broken and that Congress is not doing its job. The General was astonished when just after 9/11, he was informed of a classified memo from Rumsfeld's office, by another General who advised, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and, finishing off, Iran"; thereby, indicating that 9/11 had been staged as a "False Flag" operation.
General Clark also commented on the U.S. Generals who had threatened to resign if they were ordered to strike against Iran during the Bush administration, as well as the fact that thousands of soldiers refused to fight in Iraq. (source)
Click link to read the rest: http://investigate911.org/
In '89 they discovered galvanic corrosion throughout the structure. Aluminum was butted up against steel. The buildings were only good for, at most, another 30 years and then would be a potential massive liability.
'You gotta love Bill Cooper for pointing out a CNN reporter could find bin Laden but our 16 intelligence agencies couldn't find him?'
Are you sure about what you said Rhonda ?
You said 'OUR' 16 intelligence agencies.
Have they all actually done something FOR Americans ?
Maybe the Coast Guard, yes, but would one GeStaPo investigate the other GeStaPo for their crimes against humanity ???
USSA SS Intelligence Community
Brandon V. said:
(This tale [the official conspiracy theory by the government and it's Cling ons] should we believe ?)
'Yep that's exactly what you should believe.'
You are right, Brandon, we should believe in the good government paradigm, protecting us despite the whole humanity is considered potential terrorists ny them.
With our rights stripped away, all just for our security to fight the endless war FOR terror like in the Orwellian novel 1984, so has Obama has appointed a brown Himmler aka Holdren to fight the Infidels, questioning the government's versions of crimes against humanity committed by the empire of Arrogance, worldwide.
But you already gave yourself an answer:
'Yep that's exactly what you should believe'.
and carry on:
'... And look at the history of tons of other wars...'
Why not read a book from Sun Tsu, a high-ranking Chinese military general, strategist, philosopher and tactician, ~ 544BC 'The Art Of Warfare' subhead - 'All wars are based on deception' ?
As to Hannibal Barca, Brandon, the Carthagian, allegedly fighting Rome in the Second Punic War - I have read a book saying the whole Hannibal thing is a hoax, how about that !
Is history what we learn in schools or from history books ?
But above all, I believe you back the government as you have (a) reason(s) to back YOUR government !
The videos, Rhonda intended to post, embedded:
PROPAGANDA OBL's Massive Bunkers Never Found; No Proof Of Al-Qaeda Fighters; Al-Qaeda Hunt Fruitless
9-11 TRUTH PROOF Pentagon HIT BY US CRUISE MISSILE Whitnessed
The music playing in this clip is from 'The Matrix' - good tune, thanks for that !
Henriette, wow, overwhelming information you provided, so many, I really have to go through it all, good I have stared this page and keep on tracking.
Most amazing the quote by General Stubblebine, that a plane did not fit in the PantaGrams hole.
I am always amused how trolls and shills, dependents of the established warmongering elites may ignore epic evidence and carry on spreading the same BS the gov does in social networks, blogs and mostly presstitutes spew.
Now, I think the ground is flatten to answer the 2nd question: 'Could 9/11 have been prevented'
EXCELLENT INFORMATION AND DISCUSSION!!
Thank you Ivonne.
BI I have made a training thread for embedding videos in groups, for everyone who wants to learn and is a member.
GREAT info you posted, the 9/11 conspiracy theory video was gone several times from screw tube but is back again as part of the second video - super.
Just to make it visible in situ, the video links Ivonne posted:
Flight 93 Eyewitness Sees A Second Plane, Says Flight 93 Was Shot Down
John Fleegle heard engines roar over his head and felt the ground shake under his feet as the lights flickered in his office. He stepped outside and saw a big ball of fire in the air. However, when he got to the supposed crash site of Flight 93, he saw a second plane still flying overhead. While telling his eyewitness story, a retired Air Force officer explains that the reason his lights flickered was because the radar frequency was zapped as the plane was shot down.
2012 UPDATE ON 9/11: WHAT DID REALLY HAPPEN ON 9/11/2001? BY PROF. M. REZA SALAMI, Ph.D., P.E.
Come back with a link in the attempt to answer my 'second' question - later
our intelligence agencies....yep that was erroneous freudian slip
I really agree with Ron Paul that the DHS and CIA should be dissolved.
I can't be too hard on Brandon because I didn't want to believe it either....it's too horrible. Normalcy bias is a hard thing to overcome.
Thank you all for your contributions....for years I've been all alone talking about this. I've been dog piled on Care 2 more than I would like to remember. Nice to be a member of a courageous group that's not afraid to see things as they really are.
I second that emotion, thank you Pasifal for posting the videos the right way, thank you Henriette for all those fabolous postings and Rhonda you know how I feel about You sister!!!
Therefore, 'normality' is meanwhile considered a pathogen issue, like a disease and must be treated Rhonda.
You know war is peace n' such..........
Yep, the whole thing is too monstrous for the common citizen to imagine it was not done by Ali Baba and his '40 robbers'
But we are dealing here with the insane part of humanity, psychopaths from a parallel world with cogitations, sheeple could not even imagine.
Ivonne, Rhonda and me met a few years ago in kill2, wonder if the group still existed, I was glad to have a companion from the USSA fighting for a better world and imagine ! on my side and then already real aware, she never had fluoride in her water ........
Many features of my profile are kind of disabled, so I can not view my c2messaging, not visit friends or k2 members or comment @ my friends pages nor accept friend requests.
k2 did never respond to any of many requests.
I have learnt, to view exactly to someone's page if I am discussing with him.
I have learnt, people - if they are real, which I sometime doubt, as there are many profiles in social networks just IBM perfectly generated software - doing the job to introduce gov. orders such as Global Warming issues, copyright issues or somply promoting certain facets of the nwo.
As I can not look to profiles, it is hard to estimate with whom I speak but....
If someone is on a job search via c2, it was always difficult to discuss with such people, hmmm for many reasons.
Could the gov. of America have avoided the terror attacks ?
I've listed the most important events in the form of a chronological timeline, starting with February 01, 2001.
Here we may see what all happened in regard to 9/11 the year until the day X.
The videos below are upload to NSearch and directly embedded to my English - language blog, in order not to experience annoyance by deleted or 'disappeared' videos because many of the footage have already left screw tube and gladly I noticed, I have found them on my harddisc.
In September 2007 I made my research and updated in Spt 2012
1. The time before 9/11 - PRIOR KNOWLEDGE
This is to prove, if the statement of the U.S. government, they knew nothing, had no advance warning and therefore could not prevent the attack - as a turning point to the entire 9/11 and all upcoming terror attacks in the West and the ME - is true or false.
September 11th And The Bush Administration
Compelling Evidence for Complicity
Walter E. Davis, PhD
08/31/03: (Information Clearing House)
Clearly, one of the most critical questions of the twenty-first century concerns why the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 were not prevented. As I outline below, there are numerous aspects regarding the official stories about September 11th which do not fit with known facts, which contradict each other, which defy common sense, and which indicate a pattern of misinformation and coverup. The reports coming out of Washington do very little to alleviate these concerns.
For example, the Congressional report released on July 25, 2003 by a joint panel of House and Senate intelligence committees concluded that 9/11 resulted in C.I.A. and F.B.I. "lapses." While incompetence is frightening enough given a $40 billion budget, it is simply not consistent with known facts. It is consistent with the reports from other government scandals such has the Iran Contra Affair which produced damage control and cover up but not answers to the more probing questions. But perhaps a comparison to Watergate is more apropos since we now have twenty-eight pages of this report, which the Bush Administration refuses to release. The report from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is believable unless you are seriously interested in the truth. Under more careful scientific scrutiny, it does not answer some very important questions.
Newspapers across the country call for an investigation into Bush’s lies about the reasons for war on Iraq. Many people may accept the fact of Bush’s false pretext for a war on Arab people in a distant place, especially after the fact. However, few people will be as accepting if it is shown that this Administration was complicit in acts of atrocities against its own people.
The magnitude of the crisis is readily apparent by noting that 9/11 serves as a pretext for a never-ending war against the world, including preemptive strikes against defenseless, but resource rich countries. It also serves as a pretext for draconian measures of repression at home, including the cabinet level Department of Homeland Security and Patriot Act I, and its sequel. September 11th has become the cause for numerous other acts from massive increases in military spending and to a Fast Track Trade Agreement for the President.
To date, investigations stop far too short, the public is left in the dark on too many questions easily answered, and no one in the Bush Administration has been held accountable for any actions surrounding the attacks of September 11, 2001. The National Commission on Terrorists Attacks Upon the United States, which was formed at the insistence of the family of some of the victims, is continuing to hold hearings and a final report is expected by May, 2004. It remains to be seen if, after a two-year lapse, they can come closer to the truth about September 11th. I believe that this would only happen if public pressure were brought to bear and accountability demanded from the Bush Administration. Accountability for any atrocity should attract the attention of serious investigative reporters, media critics and even news commentators. That is their chosen responsibility. Who is to raise the question of why journalists and others in the mass media are failing the people of the U.S. and the world?
In this article, I outline twenty-two items of evidence and questions, each one sufficient reason to demand an investigation into why September 11th was not prevented. Together, these items suggest that the most plausible explanation of events is that the Bush Administration was complicit in the terrorist attacks. This should be a national and international scandal. What is being discovered will shock many people, which is one of the reasons for deliberate corporate media coverup. But a significant number of people within the U.S. see (or will see) the consistencies in the events surrounding 9/11 as described below, and what they know about U.S. foreign policy. Nevertheless, the degree to which this Administration is pursuing a course of world domination at any cost is unprecedented. One of the best ways of putting a halt to this destructive course is to expose the Bush Administration and insist on their accountability to the American people. Thus, the intent of this article is to help fill the void in the media on the issue of the Bush Administration’s complicity in 9/11.
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Here is the official story: On the morning of September 11, 2001 four Boeing passenger jets were hijacked within an hour by nineteen Arab terrorists armed with boxcutters. Pilots among these terrorists took control of the commercial planes and changed course toward targets in New York City and Washington D.C. Two of the planes were deliberately crashed into the Twin Towers, causing fires within the towers, which melted the steel support structures, thereby causing the buildings to collapse completely. A third plane was deliberately crashed into the Pentagon. Passengers on the fourth plane overpowered the hijackers and caused the plane to crash in Pennsylvania. This was an attack on America planned and directed by Osama bin Laden as the leader of Al-Qaeda, a previously obscure anti-U.S. international terrorist organization composed mainly of Arabs. This story cries out for further explanations, but nothing official is forthcoming. People are simply expected to believe the official version without question.
Evidence of Complicity by the Bush Administration in 9/11 Terrorist Attacks
The following twenty-two separate and related points, citing evidence requiring further investigation, and include questions that demand answers, were formulated on the basis of the information from the several sources cited at the end, which should be consulted for verification and documentation. These sources contain extensive detailed information and analysis beyond what is provided in this summary. I hope that this information will incite public outrage leading to full accountability.
1) The entire United States intelligence community knew of the 9/11 attacks before hand, including the fact that commercial jets were to be used as bombs; they also knew the approximate dates and possible targets but were called off their investigations. Western intelligence had been aware of plans for such terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as early as 1995. The plan was known as "Project Bojinka." It was known to both the CIA and FBI and was described in court documents in the trial in New York of Ramzi Yousef and Abdul Murad for their participation in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center (WTC).
Seven to eight weeks prior to September 11th, all internal U.S. security agencies were warned of the impending Al-Qaeda attacks. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) was warned of the attack but did nothing to beef up security. At least two weeks prior to September 11th the FBI agents again confirmed that an attack on lower Manhattan was imminent. However, the FBI agents were commanded to cut short their investigations into the attacks and those involved. Agents were threatened with prosecution under the National Security Act if they publicized information pertaining to their investigations. Some field agents predicted, almost precisely, what happened on September 11th.
As early as 1997, Russia, France, Israel, the Philippines and Egypt all warned the U.S. of the possibility of the attack. Warning also came from came from several others sources as well. Recently (May 25, 2002), CBS revealed that President Bush had been warned in an intelligence briefing on August 6, 2001that bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial planes for a domestic attack in the U.S.
2) There is incontrovertible evidence that the US Air Force all across the country was comprehensively "stood down" on the morning of September 11th. Routine security measures, normally in place, which may well have been able to prevent the attacks, or reduce their impact, were suspended for one hour while the attacks were in progress, and re-instated once they were over. Sequence of events:
8:46 a.m.: American Airlines Flight 11 from Boston smashed into the north tower of the WTC. The tower collapses at 10:28 a.m.
9:03 a.m.: United Airlines Flight 175 from Boston smashed into the south tower. It completely collapses at 9:59am.
9:38 a.m.: AA Flight 77 from Dulles hits the Pentagon.
10:10 a.m.: United Flight 93 from Newark crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
Andrews Air Force Base is a huge military installation about 10 miles from the Pentagon. On September 11th there were two entire squadrons of combat-ready fighter jets at Andrews. They failed to do their job of protecting the skies over Washington D.C. Despite over one hour’s advance warning of a terrorist attack in progress, not a single Andrews fighter tried to protect the city. The FAA, NORAD and the military have cooperative procedures enabling fighter jets to automatically intercept commercial aircraft under emergency conditions. They do not need instructions from the White House to carry out these procedures, yet they were not followed.
American Airline Flight 11 departed from Boston Logan Airport at 7:45 a.m. Between 8:13 and 8:20 a.m. Flight 11 became unresponsive to ground control and radar indicated that the plane had deviated from its assigned path of flight. Two Flight 11 airline attendants had separately called American Airlines reporting a hijacking, the presence of weapons, and the infliction of injuries on passengers and crew. At this point an emergency was undeniably clear. Yet, according to NORAD's official timeline, NORAD was not contacted until 20 minutes later at 8:40 a.m. Tragically the fighter jets were not deployed until 8:52 a.m., a full 32 minutes after the loss of contact with Flight 11.
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Flights 175, 77 and 93 all had this same pattern of delays in notification and delays in scrambling fighter jets. Delays that are difficult to imagine considering a plane had, by this time, already hit the WTC. The plane striking the pentagon is particularly spectacular. After it was known that the plane had a problem, it was nevertheless able to change course and fly towards Washington, for about 45 minutes, fly past the White House, and crash into the Pentagon, without any attempt at interception. All the while two squadrons of fighter aircraft were stationed just 10 miles from the eventual target. Unless one is prepared to allege collusion, such a scenario is not possible by any stretch of the imagination.
3) Neither the Joint Chief of Staff, the Secretary of Defense nor the President of the United States acted according to well established emergency protocols. Acting Joint Chief of Staff General Richard B. Myers stated that he saw a TV report about a plane hitting the WTC but thought it was a small plane. So he went ahead with his meeting. By the time he came out of the meeting the Pentagon had been hit. Whose responsibility was it to relay this emergency to the Joint Chief of Staff?
The Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was at his desk when AA77 crashed into the Pentagon. How is it possible that the National Military Command Center, located in the Pentagon and in contact with law enforcement and air traffic controllers from 8:46 a.m., did not communicate to the Secretary of Defense, also at the Pentagon, about the other hijacked planes especially the one headed to Washington? After he was notified, why did he go to the war room?
The actions of the President, while the attacks were occurring, indicate that he deliberately avoided doing anything reasonably expected of a President wanting to protect American citizens and property. Why didn't the Secret Service inform him of this national emergency? When is a President supposed to be notified of everything the agencies know? Why was the President permitted by the Secret Service to remain in the Sarasota elementary school? At 9.05, nineteen minutes after the first attack and two minutes after the second attack on the WTC, Andrew Card, the presidential chief of staff, whispered something in President Bush’s ear. The president did not react as if he was interested in trying to do something about the situation. He did not leave the school, convene an emergency meeting, consult with anybody, or intervene in any way, to ensure that the Air Force completed it’s job. He did not even mention the extraordinary events occurring in New York, but simply continued with the reading class. His own explanations of his actions that day contradict known facts.
In the case of a national emergency, seconds of indecision could cost thousands of lives; and it's precisely for this reason that the government has a whole network of adjuncts and
advisors to insure that these top officials are among the first to be informed, not the last. Where were these individuals who did not properly inform the top officials?
In short, the CIA, the DCI, the State Department, the President, and key figures around him in the White House, were ultimately responsible for doing nothing in the face of the mounting evidence of an impending threat to U.S. national security. Incompetence is a highly improbable explanation.
4) Prior to 9/11, the US intelligence agencies should have stopped the nineteen terrorists from entering this country for intelligence reasons, alone. Fifteen of the nineteen hijackers' visas should have been unquestionably denied because their applications were incomplete and incorrect. Most of the 19 hijackers were young, unmarried, and un-employed males. They were, in short, the "classic over-stay candidates". A seasoned former Consular officer stated in the National Review magazine, "Single, idle young adults with no specific destination in the United States rarely get visas absent compelling circumstances."
There are several cases damaging to the credibility of the official accounts of 9/11. But the U.S. response to Mohamed Atta, the alleged lead hijacker, is most extraordinary. The FBI had been monitoring Atta’s movements for several months in 2000. According to PBS’ Frontlines, the Immigration and Naturalization Service failed to stop Atta from entering the U.S. three times on a tourist visa in 2001, even though officials knew the visa had expired in 2000, and that Atta had violated its terms by taking flight lessons. Furthermore, Atta had already been implicated in a terrorist bombing in Israel, with the information passed on to the United States before he was first issued his tourist visa.
5) How did many of the hijackers receive clearance for training at secure U.S. military and intelligence facilities, and for what purposes? Many of the terrorist pilots received their initial training in Venice, Florida at one of two flight schools of highly questionable credibility and with approval of US intelligence. Mohamed Atta had attended International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Alabama; Abdulaziz Alomari had attended Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force base in Texas; Saeed Alghamdi had been to the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California. These are all names of identified hijackers, so why has the U.S. government attempted to deny the match? As early as three days after the 9/11 attacks, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III claimed that these findings were new and had not been known by the FBI previously. This claim is a lie.
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Zacarias Moussaouri was arrested after his flight trainers at the Minnesota flight school, Pan Am International Flight Academy, reported highly suspicious behavior. He was greatly unqualified; he wanted to learn to fly a 747 but wasn’t interested in takeoffs or landings; he was traveling on a French passport, said he was from France, but could not speak French. When
contacted, the French said he was a suspected terrorist connected to Al-Qaeda. However, a special counter terrorism panel of the FBI and CIA reviewed the case and dismissed it.
There are numerous glaring anomalies, illegalities and scandals connected with Wally Hilliard and Rudi Dekker’s Huffman Aviation School at Venice, Florida where other hijackers trained. Dekkers had no aviation experience and was under indictment in his native country, The Netherlands, on financial charges. He purchased his aviation school at just about the time the terrorist pilots moved into town and began their lessons. He has yet to be investigated even though he initially trained most of the hijackers.
Britannia Aviation was awarded a five-year contract to run a large regional maintenance facility at Lynchburg at a time when the company virtually had no assets, employees, or corporate history and did not posses the necessary FAA license needed to perform the maintenance. Britannia was a company with known CIA connections. It was operating illegally out of Huffman Aviation, the flight school which trained Al-Qaeda hijackers and was given a "green light" from the Justice Department’s Drugs Enforcement Administration, and the local Venice Police Department was warned to "leave them alone." Why?
6) How were the hijackers able to get specifically contraband items such as box-cutters, pepper spray and, according to one FAA executive summary, a gun on those planes? On the morning of September 11th, when the 19 hijackers went to purchase their tickets and to receive their boarding passes, nine were singled out and questioned through a screening process. But they passed the screening process and were allowed to continue on with their mission.
7) At a time when the U.S. intelligence community was on alert for an imminent Al-Qaeda attack, the Bush Administration made it easier for Saudi visitors to come to the U.S. under a program called U.S. Visa Express, introduced four months before September 11th. Michael Springmann, former head of the Visa Bureau at the U.S. Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia said that he was repeatedly ordered by high-level State Departtment officials to issue visas to unqualified applicants. His complaints to higher authorities at several agencies went unanswered. In a CBC interview, he indicated that the CIA was indeed complicit in the attacks.
8) Most of the hijackers were Saudis, as is Osama bin Laden, and the Saudi Arabian government is known to give financial support to terrorist organizations. Why is Iraq and not Saudi Arabia a target if the US government is concerned about terrorism? Saudi Arabia’s government cooperates with US oil and arms industries; Iraq did not. Iraq is forced to now, of course. At least fifteen of the far-flung network of terrorist pilots received their money from the same source. There is specific evidence that Osama bin Laden continues to receive extensive support, not only from members of his own family, but also from members of the Saudi establishment. A New Statesman report stated that "Bin Laden and his gang are just the tentacles; the head lies safely in Saudi Arabia, protected by U.S. forces." The hijackers responsible for 9/11 were not illiterate, bearded fanatics from Afghanistan. They were all educated, highly skilled, middle-class professionals. Of the 19 men involved, 13 were citizens of Saudi Arabia.
9) Why were the FBI called off its investigation of Osama bin Laden and the Saudi Royal Family prior to 9/11? Moreover, why were the FBI Agents ordered to curtail their investigation of these attacks on October 10, 2001? The FBI has repeatedly complained that it has been muzzled and restricted in its attempts to investigate matters connected to Bin Laden and Al Qeada. One law enforcement official was quoted as saying, "The investigative staff has to be made to understand that we’re not trying to solve a crime now." FBI Agents are said to be in the process of filing a law suit agents the Agency for the right to go public.
10) Osama Bin Laden was unofficially convicted of the attacks within a time frame that could not possibly have allowed any intelligence to have been gathered which supported the accusation. That is, it would be impossible if they did not already have that information. How could they have had no warning of an operation, which must have been very difficult to keep under wraps, but then be able to name the culprit in less than a day? And if they had some forewarning of the attack, even if it was not specific, then it raises even more questions about government agencies’ complicity.
It is not logical that Bin Laden was involved, and actually impossible, unless he was involved in the capacity of collusion with US authorities, or at best, in the context of the US knowing all along what he was up to, and deliberately allowing him to do it. The point has already been made that if he was involved, then it cannot have been a surprise, which in turn, points to the President and others in his administration.
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From day one, there has not been a shred of publicly available evidence against Bin Laden. Up until mid December, there was nothing but the continued repetition of his name. The official documents detailing allegations against Bin Laden provide no convincing evidence. Of the 69 points of "evidence" cited, ten relate to background information about the relationship between Bin Laden and the Taliban. Fifteen relate to background information regarding the general philosophies of Al Qeada, and it's relationship to Bin Laden. None give any facts concerning the events of 9/11. Most do not even attempt to directly relate anything mentioned to the events of that day. Twenty-six list allegations related to previous terrorist attacks. Even if they were convictions of previous terrorist attacks, everybody knows that this isn't worth the paper it's written on, in terms of evidence for involvement of September 11th.
Within less than four hours of the attacks taking place, the media were fed comments, which assumed Bin Laden's guilt, comments made on the basis of events, which could not possibly have occurred. The Pentagon and the Department of Defense used dialogue attributed to Bin Laden, in an effort to incriminate him, while refusing to release all of the dialogue, and refusing to issue a verbatim, literal translation. Why was it considered necessary to lie, in order to create a case against Bin Laden? The truth could well implicate the Bush administration.
11) Pakistan’s Intelligence Agency (ISI) was indirectly involved in September 11th. The links between Al Qaeda, Pakistan’s ISI and the CIA; and, between the ISI, Osama bin Laden and the Taliban Axis are a matter of public record. Pakistan has also long been a supporter of Al Qeada. The Pakistani ISI (secret service) has been a mechanism by which the CIA indirectly channeled support to Al Qeada and has been used by successive US administrations as a "go-between." Pakistan's military-intelligence apparatus constitutes the core institutional support to both Osama's Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Without this institutional support, there would be no Taliban government in Kabul. In turn, without the unbending support of the US government, there would be no powerful military-intelligence apparatus in Pakistan.
It was reported that ISI’s Director-General, General Mahmoud Ahmad, had funneled $100,000 to the lead hijacker, Mohamed Atta, shortly before September 11th. The U.S. government protected him, and itself, by asking him to resign quietly after the discovery, thus blocking a further inquiry and a potential scandal. In the wake of 9/11, the Bush Administration consciously sought the "cooperation" of the ISI, which had been supporting and abetting Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. In other words, the Bush Administration's relations with Pakistan's ISI, including its "consultations" with General Mahmoud Ahmad in the week prior to September 11th, raise the issue of "cover-up" as well as "complicity". While Ahmad was talking to U.S. officials at the CIA and the Pentagon, the ISI allegedly had contacts with the 9/11terrorists.
12) The USA and Bin Laden are not the enemies they pretend to be. It is established beyond doubt that senior members of the Bush administration have close links to the Bin Laden Family and this relationship is still going on behind the scenes. In fact, there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to indicate that Bin Laden, may have had something to do with 9/11, but the problem is that it also implicates the Bush Administration, the CIA, George Bush Senior, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates.
It is well known that Bin Laden’s close working relationship with the CIA began in the 1980’s. The claim is that they have since fallen out, but this story is a lie. According to the mainstream media spin, this is OK, because the rest of the family has disowned Osama for his terrorist activities and anti-US views. This spin is also a lie.
The "blowback" thesis is a fabrication. The evidence amply confirms that the CIA never severed its ties to the "Islamic Militant Network". Since the end of the Cold War these covert intelligence links have not only been maintained, they have become increasingly sophisticated.
13) How was it possible for the World Trade Center’s two towers to have completely collapsed as a result of two jet planes? The towers in fact stood for forty-five and ninety minutes after the crashes. The official story is that the burning jet fuel caused the steel girders supporting them to melt. However, there is simply no credibly scientific evidence to support this story. The WTC towers were designed to take the impact of a Boeing 707. It is highly unlikely that fire from the jet fuel could have melted the steel girders. This is especially true of the South tower since the plane did not hit it directly. Therefore most of the fuel did not fall inside the building. The South Tower was hit second and fell first. Both towers collapsed evenly and smoothly in a manner consistent with that caused by a planned demolition. Based upon scientific evidences, photos and videos of the event, and reports of scientists, the WTC architect and engineers, it is highly unlikely that the Towers collapsed because of burning jet fuel rather than demolition. There are also serious questions regarding the collapse of the building known as WTC7. It is also noteworthy that ownership of the WTC changed hands several months earlier because if the towers collapsed because of inside demolition, such accomplishment would require cooperation from the extensive WTC security forces.
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14) Why was Bin Laden not captured before 9/11, and why has he not been captured since? There have been several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden, but no effort to do so was made. Two US allies, Saudi Arabia, and The United Arab Emirates, have colluded in deliberately allowing Bin Laden to stay free. Bin Laden was meeting with the CIA as late as July 2001. An examination of U.S. attempts to capture Osama bin Laden show they have in fact consistently blocked attempts to investigate and capture him. Eleven bin Laden family members were flown safely out of the same Boston airport where the highjacking took place a few days earlier. Why were they not detained for questioning?
15) The September 11th disaster has resulted in power and profit at home and abroad by both the Bin Laden and the Bush families. There are significant business ties between Bin Laden and senior members of the Bush administration. Reports have emerged that Carlyle Group, the giant U.S. defence contractor that employs former President George W. Bush Sr., has had long-standing financial ties to the bin Laden family. So while there is compelling evidence that Osama bin Laden has not broken away from his family, it is also a matter of record that the Bush administration is in turn very significantly tied to the same family. The Carlyle Group has profited immensely from the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq and from the militarization of U.S. foreign policy.
16) Revelations of profits made by insider trading relating to the 9/11 attacks, point to the top levels of US business and the CIA. The intelligence community regularly analyzes financial transactions for any suspicious activity. Only three trading days before September 11th, shares of American and United Airlines -- the companies whose planes were hijacked in the attacks on New York and Washington -- were massively "sold short" by investors. Executive CIA Director AB "Buzzy" Krongard was one of those who profited from the deal. The names of the other investors remain undisclosed and the $5 million in profit taking remains unclaimed in the Chicago Exchange account. No similar trading in other airlines occurred on the Chicago exchange in the day immediately preceding Black Tuesday. There were also unusual trades on several companies occupying the World Trade Center, including Morgan Stanley Dean Witter & Co., and Merrill Lynch & Co. These multiple, massive and unprecedented financial transactions point unequivocally to the fact that the investors behind these trades were speculating in anticipation of a mid-September 2001 catastrophe that would involve both United and American Airlines and offices in the Twin Towers. To date, both the Securities & Exchange Commission and the FBI have been tight-lipped about their investigations of trades. A probe could isolate the investors. Why has nothing been made public?
17) Selected persons were told not to fly that day. Newsweek reported that on September 10th, "a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns." Why was that same information not made available to the 266 people who died aboard the four hijacked commercial aircraft? A significant number of selected people were warned about flying or reporting for work at the WTC. San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown received a phone call eight hours before the hijacking warning him not to travel by air. Salman Rushdie is under a 24-hour protection of UK Scotland yard; he was also prevented from flying that day. Ariel Sharon canceled his address to Israeli support groups in New York City just the day before his scheduled September 11th address. John Ashcroft stopped flying on public airplanes in July of 2001.
Other evidence exists indicating that government officials knew of the attacks beforehand. For example, Tom Kenny who was with a rescue squad from FEMA told Dan Rather of CBS News that, "We arrived on Monday night (September 10th) and went into action of Tuesday." How is it possible for high government officials to have been caught by surprise as some claimed?
18) There are reasonable grounds for suspicion that the U.S. attack on Afghanistan was already planned before September 11th. A pretext for war is always needed. From investigative journalist Patrick Martin, "[t]his examination has found that a specific war on Afghanistan . . . launched in October 2001 had been planned for at least a year, and in general terms related to regional strategic and economic interests, had actually been rooted in at least four years of strategic planning. This planning, in turn, is the culmination of a decade of regional strategizing. All that was required was a trigger for these war plans, which was amply provided by the tragic events of 11th September."
It is public knowledge that Unocal and others in the oil industry were negotiating with Afghan officials for a pipeline across their country as part of the "Silk Road" strategy. It was also reported that the talks had broken down. A specific threat made at a meeting: the Taliban can choose between a "carpets of bombs" - an invasion - or a "carpets of gold" – the oil and gas pipelines. Experts agree that Central Asia and the Caspian Basin are central to energy in the 21st century and that energy is central to political, economic and military power. James Dorian noted in the Oil & Gas Journal: "Those who control the oil routes out of Central Asia will impact all future direction and quantities of flow and the distribution of revenues from new production" (cited in Ahmed, 2002, p. 69).
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The plans for global domination developed by those of Project for the New American Century, a neoconservative think tank formed in the Spring of 1997, are also a matter of public record. These plans included specifics for taking military control of Central Asia, including regime change in Iraq. The primary architects of these plans include Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearle, Richard Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, all part of the first Bush Administration ousted by Bill Clinton and now back in power with George W. Bush.
19) The 9/11 attacks came at an extremely fortuitous time for the Bush administration, the Pentagon, the CIA, the FBI, the weapons industry, and the oil industry, all of which have benefited immensely from this tragedy. It is worth noting the acute observations of Canadian social philosopher John McMurtry: "To begin with, the forensic principle of ‘who most benefits from the crime?’ clearly points in the direction of the Bush administration. . . . The more you review the connections and the sweeping lapse of security across so many coordinates, the more the lines point backwards [to the White House]."
20) Both the U.S. and the USSR are responsible for the rise of religious extremism, terrorism and civil war within Afghanistan since the 1980s. The U.S., however, is directly responsible for the cultivation of a distorted ‘jihadi’ ideology that fueled, along with U.S. arms and training, the ongoing war and acts of terrorism within the country after the withdrawal of Soviet forces.
21) The Bush Administration is clearly capable of creating or allowing such atrocities to occur. Hitler was able to play the anti-communist card to win over skeptical German industrialists. Certainly the Bush family are not newcomers to melding political and business interests, they got their start as key Hitler supporters. Prescott Bush, father of George Bush Sr., was Hitler’s banker and propaganda manager in New York, until FDR confiscated his holdings. George Bush Sr. used Manuel Noriega as a scapegoat, killing thousands of innocent Panamanians in the process of re-establishing U.S. control over Panama. It is also widely believed that the current Bush Administration knowingly misled the people about the war in Iraq.
22) There are precedents for these kinds of acts of complicity and fabrications. Rejecting claim that the evidence for collusion is over-ruled by a belief that no country would do this to its own citizens, simply requires pointing out that the contemplation of terrorist attacks on U.S. citizens by the CIA is a matter of public record. The previously classified "Operation Northwoods" document reveals that in 1962, the CIA seriously considered the possibility of carrying out terrorist attacks against US citizens, in order to blame it on Cuba. The plans were never implemented, but were given approval signatures by all the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The plan included several options, including killing Cuban defectors or U.S. soldiers, sinking ships, and staging simulations of planes being shot down. All this was done to blame on Castro as a pretext for launching a war against Cuba.
Far from being an unprecedented shocker, suspected government complicity in 9/11 builds on an august and cynical tradition. "It’s the oldest trick in the book, dating back to Roman times." Examples of democracy being hoaxed include the sinking of the Maine, Pearl Harbor bombardment, which President Roosevelt is believed to have known about beforehand, and the hoax of the Gulf of Tonkin provocation.
The evidence seems clear that if the many agencies of the U.S. government had done their jobs, the September 11th attack would likely have been prevented. If there had been an immediate investigation into the September 11th attacks, the wars on Afghanistan and Iraq could not have been justified simply on the basis of terrorism. Surely questions must be asked about why there is yet no accountability of the Bush administration and why the journalists and others in mass media are not held responsible for the coverup, deception and lack of investigative reporting. From the evidence presented it would seem that much public whistle-blowing ought to be taking place. Why is it not yet evident?
I believe that it is important not to approach 9/11 as the possibility of some grand conspiracy, but a possible conspiracy of some sort nevertheless. One important insight is how hierarchical authoritarian social systems function. Top down directives and commands, especially if they carry the weight of threats of censorship and punishment serve to keep any dissent in check. There is a great deal of self-censorship operating in all institutions in the United States. It is also important to recognize the role of a shared ideology among the decision makers, or perhaps more specifically therole of what social psychologists, in studies of organizational behavior, call "groupthink." Groupthink is decision making characterized by uncritical acceptance of and conformity with the prevailing view.
Thus, the will of a few key persons can be spread within and across government agencies.
Thus the possibility of complicity on the part of the Bush Administration is very real. At the very least, further and more honest investigations must take place and some accountability exacted from those responsible.
Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed, Executive Director of the Institute for Policy Research & Development, Brighton, England, suggests,
The executive branch of the federal government has apparently enabled a lethal surprise attack with mass murder against two of the founding thirteen colonies, New York and Virginia. By such an act, the federal government would grossly violate and void its contract with the states, and abrogate its own constitutional rights and privileges. Even if you do not accept the complicity argument, it has failed to protect its largest city from the consequences of its overweening foreign policies.
Like a loose handgun, our Federal government has backfired on its owners, the States. The executive has gone to war in defiance of the Constitution, and Congress has abdicated its war-making authority on at least 200 occasions since 1945, according to the Federation of American Scientists. The federal government has proven utterly incapable and unwilling to remedy its chronic and world-threatening sickness (p. 376-377).
It seems apropos to conclude: "if you are part of the problem, then you are not part of the solution." The solution then lies with the people themselves and not with any US government agency, least of all the Executive Branch.
Ahmed, Nafeez Mosaddeq (2002). The war on freedom: How and why America was attacked September 11, 2001. Joshua Tree, CA: Tree of Life Publications. AThe War on Freedom rips apart the veil of silence surrounding 9/11, and lets readers look at the facts for themselves. This riveting and thoroughly documented study [718 citations] is a "must" resource for everyone seeking to understand the attack on the World Trade Center of New York on September 11, 2001 and "America’s New War."
Bamford, James (2001). Body of secrets : anatomy of the ultra-secret National Security Agency : from the Cold War through the dawn of a new century. New York: Doubleday, 2001. See for detailed information on Operation Northwood and other "secrets."
Burbach, Roger, & Clarke, Ben (Eds.) (2002). September 11 and the U.S. war: Beyond the curtain of smoke. San Francisco: City Light Books. This is an anthology of 41 short pieces by more than 30 authors who dissent from the bellicose actions of the U.S. government since 9-11-01. These essays provide the essential background and analysis needed to understand the origins and consequences of the attack of September 11th and the U.S. government’s response.
Chossudovsky, Michel (2002). War and globalisation: The truth behind September 11. London: Zed Books. "In this timely study, Michel Chossudovsky blows away the smokescreen, put up by the mainstream media, that 9-11 was an ‘intelligence failure’. Through meticulous research, the author uncovers a military-intelligence ploy behind the September 11 attacks, and the coverup and complicity of key members of the Bush Administration."
Grey, Steve (2002). September 11 Attacks: Evidence of U.S. collusion. firstname.lastname@example.org.
Hopsicker, Daniel: http://www.madcowprod.com/archive.htm.
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National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/. See especially the testimony of Mindy Kleinberg, Stephen Push and others on the First Public Hearings Archives, p. 163.
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Thompson, Paul: http://cooperativeresearch.org. See "US preparing for a war with Afghanistan before 9/11, increasing control of Asia before & since" and several other articles.
http://emperors-clothes.com. See several short articles by Jared Israel, John Flaherty, Illarion Bykov, Francisco Gil-White and George Szamuely.
http://globaloutlook.ca. This site has numerous links to documented articles and other valuable resources.
. This web site has extensive information and detailed analysis. It raises many serious questions about the official stories and reports. It has undergone recent revisions based upon new evidence.
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You rock Henriette!!! there is the body of evidence!!!
The Franklin Cover-UpChild Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraskaby John W. DeCamp
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/franklincoverupexcerpt.shtmlhttp://www.gaiaguys.net/Franklincoverup.htmSelected excerpts fromThe Franklin Cover-Up, Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska
by Senator John W. DeCamp
I will tell you one thing I used to play that lesser of 2 evils game and voted for Dubya but I didn't know any of what I know now back then. People like you guys really took the scales off my eyes. I even resisted at first to believe it because it was so monstrous.
I asked the lord to forgive me for my foolishness and as a repentence I am trying so hard to keep my eyes wide open and never do this again. Never to support another evil leader. I hope God forgives me. It is just imperative to let everyone of your family and friends know what is really going on. Don't let them fall in the trap.
Dr. Judy Wood, a former assistant professor at Clemson University, has developed compelling evidence that a directed energy weapon turned the physical matter of the World Trade Center towers into nanoparticles through the process of molecular dissociation. Dr. Wood demonstrates clear evidence that cannot be accounted for by the official 9/11 Commission explanation or alternative theory of military planes, cruise missiles, or other projectiles hitting the World Trade Center buildings, or a controlled demolition caused solely by "advanced explosive nano-thermitic composite material found in the World Trade Center dust," or solely by 4th generation mini-nukes.
I still don't understand what directed energy is exactly....does HAARP do that?
that rubble pile was way too small....seems as if most of it blew away with the wind....also on controlled demolitions the dust clouds usually don't rise any higher than the actual structure that they demolished but those clouds were sky hign in WTC demolition.
Dr Wood may have something there with that directed energy....not that they might not have used mini nukes and nano thermite as well