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Silent Voices of Newtown Tragedy
2 years ago

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This post was modified from its original form on 27 Dec, 6:49
2 years ago

The rapid-response defense of assault weapons began almost before the gunshots faded into a national nightmare. In Newtown, Connecticut, 20 children and 7 adults lay dead by a gunman’s hand, and immediately the old rhetoric machine began cranking out a defense of the killer’s weapon. It happened the same way it does every time there are mass killings with high-powered weaponry, with one major exception: this time, the other side pushed back.

 

There have been voices calling for stricter gun laws after each such event as well, but those voices have never even glimpsed the kind of volume achieved by the pro-gun lobby. That is, not until Newtown. This time was different. This time, parents all over the country looked at the grief-stricken faces of those people who had lost their babies and decided enough was enough.

 

The frustrating thing for those who have been advocating stricter controls all along is that it had to take the slaughter of six and seven year olds to get us to this point. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and twenty-plus other mass shootings in 30 years…each of them horrifying and tragic, yet none could get us to have this discussion. It took the deaths of 20 precious angels to get us to face the politically difficult task of limiting a constitutional freedom. However long it took and whatever the cost, the uncompromising gun advocates on the far right can be assured of one thing: we are not turning back now.

 

The choice of victims may have changed the national discussion, but the facts remain the same, and the fact is that there is not one argument the gun lobby puts up that cannot easily be defeated. To illustrate, let us examine the most common arguments and address each individually.

 

Gun ownership is a constitutional right.

Yes, it is. However, so is freedom of speech. Can you yell “fire” in a crowded theater? Sure; but if there is no fire you’d better hope no one gets hurt in the panic, because you could be held responsible. We have laws against libel and slander. We have laws to protect privacy that restrict what people can say under certain conditions. We even have rules of etiquette that limit our freedom of speech. There is nothing unusual about rights coming with limitations.

 

Note that the constitution states we are allowed to bear arms for the purpose of establishing a “well-armed militia”. Gun advocates point out that a “well-armed” militia would not use hunting rifles, therefore our freedom to possess guns is not limited to hunting rifles. This ignores the fact that, at the time the constitution was written, the militias did in fact use hunting rifles. If we are not going to consider the constitution a living document but instead follow it dogmatically, the only weapons Americans should be allowed to possess would be muskets.

 

We are allowed to have guns in case we have to take on a tyrannical government.

It is safe to assume that the founding fathers never envisioned weapons that could kill hundreds of people in minutes. The protections against a tyrannical government were included in a time when most of the country was rural. Local governments were in a position to take advantage of citizens without it becoming widely known. In today’s totally connected society, oppression’s biggest enemy is publicity. If it’s the federal government you fear, no amount of weapons you could compile would allow you to defeat the resources at their disposal. Ballots can bring down an American government, but bullets never will.

Most gun owners are responsible people who have never hurt anyone.

That statement is 100% true. In fact, the overwhelming majority of gun owners have probably never hurt anyone. Now let’s be honest with ourselves: most of us will admit that, at one time or another, we have driven a car after we’ve had a few drinks. By virtue of the number of people who have done it, then, we can state that the overwhelming majority of people who admit to drinking and driving have never hurt anyone. Yet, still, we have laws that limit your freedom to consume alcohol if you’re going to be driving. Sometimes it just makes sense to limit the freedoms of the whole because of the actions of a few.

 

If someone wants to kill people, they’ll find a way to do with or without assault weapons.

Again, a true statement; but assault weapons make it easier to kill and increase the body count dramatically. It’s odd that the majority of people who offer this excuse for not attempting common-sense gun legislation are the same people who oppose condoms being handed out in schools. This is basically a re-packaged version of “they’re going to do what they want anyway, so we might as well help them out”. We can include “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” here, too. Yes, people kill people. And people with assault weapons kill a lot of people in a very short time.

 

Even if you took away all the guns, murder would occur. People would use knives, sticks, rocks, or even their bare hands.

 

This argument is similar to the previous one. The premise is basically that we can’t stop all murders, so let’s just not do anything. With this argument, simply putting it in those terms is enough to discredit it.

 

Guns are needed for home and personal defense.

A hunting rifle or revolver is perfectly sufficient for personal defense, but the available data shows that this claim is actually false, anyway. If you ha

2 years ago

Guns are needed for home and personal defense.

A hunting rifle or revolver is perfectly sufficient for personal defense, but the available data shows that this claim is actually false, anyway. If you have a gun in your home, you are statistically more likely to be killed with your own gun than to kill or wound an attacker.

If more people were armed, there would be less people killed by gun violence.

This is the easiest one to shoot down, no pun intended. A Reuters study recently showed that the United States is the most armed society in the world. It also leads the world in per capita gun deaths. So, at least here in the U.S., more guns equal more deaths. Add to this the fact that the gun lobby fails to offer even one credible example of a gunman attempting a mass shooting being shot by a citizen with a concealed carry permit and this becomes the weakest of all arguments.

 

The National Rifle Association recently offered its sage advice on the matter. The solution, according to CEO Wayne LaPierre, is armed guards and/or administrators (including teachers) in every school in America. This plan was quickly trumpeted by the pro-gun crowd as the way forward, ignoring the fact that the cost involved with implementing such an effort would be tremendous. This is underscored by the fact that most of those endorsing the NRA proposal are the same people who constantly harp on the deficit and government spending.

 

 

Yes, change is difficult and sometimes slow to come. But in the long run, Americans usually choose to do the right thing. There is no longer any question what the right thing is when it comes to assault weapons. Those calling for common-sense gun legislation have always had the winning argument; they just couldn’t get their message heard over the noise of the National Rifle Association and its minions in congress. Finally, when their voices were joined by the 20 tiny, silent voices of Newtown, America heard.

2 years ago
  • Actually, the anti gun bunch were the first to exploit this tragedy.  People like this author, and you, just don't like it than some would oppose another expansion of government power.
  • Note also that the people that pushed "gun free zones"  are the ones that facilitated the 38 mass gun killings since "gun free zones" became a political theme.   There was only one before that happened.  
  • We get it Sheila.  You don't like the 2ed Amendment.  Of course, based on who you supported politically. you also have a problem with the 1st, 2ed, 4th, 5th, 6th 8th, 9th and 10th Amendments. 
2 years ago

Jim:  I love the Constitution and the 2nd amendment.  I think there needs to be better background checks on everyone buying guns.

 

There are far too many crazies in society today.

I don't want to see these people with guns at their disposal.

Too many have anger management problems.

There are also responsible gun owners and I am very well aware of that fact.

 

I think guns should be sold on a more discriminatory basis, better background checks, mental illness is a factor along with alcohol and drug ABUSE.  I emphasize abuse as I know many people drink and do smoke recreationally and don't pose a danger.

 

 

2 years ago

Have you read the 2ed Amendment Sheila?  "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"  ????   

You seek to do exactly that.  

2 years ago

If the people have to give up the right to defend themselves FROM  the "authorities," the authorities have to do it first because they are THE greatest threat to our safety. Period.

2 years ago

I understand what you are saying but the fact is there are too many people getting guns for sinister reasons.  That guy in Rochester NY was a criminal, his neighbor knew his history and bought the guns for him.  That is not honest gun ownership.  There needs to be selective screening of buying guns. 

 

There will be more of this and the extremes will go after gun owners rights, there is no doubt in my mind.  Obama's idealogy of the Constitution is making it a living one; this is where you better watch out because they want to dismantle the one we have and write a new one at whim.  These constitutional conferences have been ongoing for the past 4 yrs.  I was invited to one and I was unable to go.  The only safety feature the Constitutionalists had there was Mark Meckler was a host and he was one of the best tea party founders.  He no longer is with the TP as they pushed him out.   Problems exist with factions from both ends of the spectrum. 

Sandy Hook was real ?
2 years ago

Although she does not appear in any of the class photos, the media claims that 6-year-old Emilie Parker on the right was shot in the Sandy Hook massacre. Here she is shown with her parents along with her 3 and 4-year-old sisters. But the story that she was killed at Sandy Hook is not possible because here she is sitting on the president's lap after the shooting.

What may have happened is that when the photographer said to bring out the Parker girls, they brought out Emilie by mistake. The rest of the Parker family changed their clothes after the family picture but since Emilie was not supposed to be in the picture with the president, she remained in the same dress.

From left to right is Emilie, her father, the president, her mother, her sister and the family law attorney that claims to be her aunt.

Here the fake father makes his national TV debut.

Just as the movie Operation Terror ( www.OperationTerror.com ) shows the 9/11 attacks as a made-for-TV event, so too are the mass shootings. It is important that the real parents of the victims do not get on television as they might ask embarrassing questions like, why does the media claim that this car belongs to Adam Lanza when it really belongs to Chris Rodia?

The real parents might also ask who gave the orders to release the man that the police caught running into the woods right after the shooting? Some claim that it was Chris Manfredonia who has a child at the school was the man running out into the woods. This is not true, Manfredonia did not run out into the woods and he was not wearing camouflage pants and a black top. Only the man that the police captured and Adam Lanza were described as wearing camouflage pants and a black top.

Although the Libor scandal connection to Sandy Hook is just another Sorcha Faal Hoax, there can be no doubt that Sandy Hook was a staged event.

If America were still a free country, all of the adults that participated in this cover-up would be prosecuted as accessories after the fact in a mass murder.

Original pictures;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249148/Sandy-Hook-school-shooting-Pr...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv_RhVgfUQ

2 years ago


Non-sympathetic, pro-gun blather and conspiracy theories from the right-wing in a thread about a tragic school shooting.

No surprise there.
 

2 years ago

Christian, don't lump everyone together in that thought.  Because repulsive is repulsive and it isn't a group thing. 

That is messed up and so disrespectful Parsifal.  Really gross and way out there.  Of course, that is just my opinion.

2 years ago


Most of the active members in this group are delusional and getting more paranoid and unhinged with every passing day, so it is kind of a group thing, or seems to be, anyway.

I'm not including David in that.



2 years ago
LOL. You're sounding a bit paranoid yourself Christian. But you've been consistent on your  delusions all along. 
Demand A Real Plan - Disarmament leads to Democide
2 years ago

Suzanne O:

'That is messed up and so disrespectful Parsifal.  Really gross and way out there.'


Yes, Suzanne O.

It is messed up, disrespectful, really gross and way out there how the governments of the Western Arrogance makes one false flag after the other, killing our children to impose the nwo.


(Just my opinion).

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Published on Jan 3, 2013
by TheHealthRanger

This hard-hitting public service announcement exposes the truth about government violence against the People: DEMOCIDE is the #1 cause of death in our world.

DEMOCIDE = mass murder committed by governments, usually after disarming the People. 290,000,000 people have been killed by governments, and U.S. Senators like Dianne Feinstein now want to make that number even higher by disarming, criminalizing and then killing U.S. citizens.

Demand a REAL plan.

A plan of liberty and freedom for all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDlbg1VoMZ0

Daughter's Photo was used for a Sandy Hook Shooting Victim
2 years ago

Woman Claims Her Daughter's Photo was used for a Sandy Hook Shooting Victim

PROOF SANDY HOOK IS FAKE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXksKWJV8lc

Sandy Hook Shooting Victim Allison Wyatt does not exist. Her photo was stolen from her mother's Flickr page. The girl's name is Lily Gaubert and she is alive and well.

http://www.wjla.com/pictures/2012/12/connecticut-shooting-victims-portraits/a...

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/22/news/doc50d35ce3093b7557931384.txt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsVmzBX8F0

Sandy Hook Families Interviewed All Fake. Update.
2 years ago

24 minutes, while worth watching

Video source: BCCMightySanta
A compilation of some of the new things that I've found and that have been sent to me by different viewers. Thank you for all of your research. Below are links to the full videos and articles used in this video

McDonnell parents live through Grace: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQNVJE4xgk


Newtown, Connecticut Family on Losing Child in Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itX1AI8Z-nM

Active Shooter Crisis Actors Target Mall Shootings via Visionbox: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/active-shooter-crisis-actors-target-110421683.html

Vision Box (Located in Denver): http://visionbox.org/

Crisis Actors: http://crisisactors.org/

Derren Brown Assassin Full Episode. Notice the comments the video is getting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90xfZJQzAhc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c_6JzSqr2w

2 years ago

Well, I can't even believe I read through and watched that crap.  Yea, I'm sold.  Beware of the owl

Wow!

2 years ago

Yes, some idiots have no idea what the owl means.

maybe they are paid shills and government trolls.

What you think !

Pre Dec 14 Sandy Hook ...

One can tell by the smell.

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