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ABOUT NARAL May 17, 2005 3:37 PM

Changing NARAL's
blood-stained name
Posted: January 7, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

fOR THE FULL STORY:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30353


© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

America's most aggressive pro-abortion organization – NARAL – is changing its name again, reports the New York Times.

Let's see, that would make it the group's fourth name since it was founded in 1969, initially as the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws. After the Supreme Court's momentous 1973 Roe vs. Wade abortion decision – 30 years ago this month – the group reinvented itself as the National Abortion Rights Action League. In 1993, it became the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League, trying to de-emphasize abortion in favor of "rights." And now, as it launches a high-profile, multimillion-dollar PR campaign, the group is morphing to "Naral Pro Choice America."

Uh, what happened to the part about "abortion"?

"They want to isolate the rhetoric from the reality," charges Family Research Council President Ken Connor. "They want to talk about pro-choice, but its not choosing between chocolate and vanilla. We are talking about the right to choose to kill an unborn child."

Yet long-time NARAL President Kate Michelman puts it differently. "It is the right name for this moment in history," she explains. Terrified that Roe vs. Wade will be overturned with Republicans in both houses of Congress as well as the White House, NARAL is pulling out all the stops to make abortion a major issue in the 2004 election. "Through our name change," says Michelman, "we are underscoring that our country is pro-choice."

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ABOUT NARAL PART2 May 17, 2005 3:42 PM

But wait. The most recent Gallup poll finds that only 26 percent of Americans support NARAL's radical idea of "choice" – that abortion should be legal in all cases. Just over half, about 56 percent, believe it should be legal in certain cases, such as rape or to save the life of the mother, and another 17 percent say it should be illegal in all cases – meaning that 3 out of 4 Americans favor severe restrictions on abortion.

If NARAL is trying to sell an extremist viewpoint through aggressive marketing and clever slogans, that would be, like changing its name, nothing new. In fact, it's what NARAL is all about.

For full Story:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30353

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 May 18, 2005 10:36 AM

Lena,

I know you are correctly Informed about this Issue.  They will use any methods possible to promote and/or make sure a woman has a choice, even if other possiblitys are Present!!!  They don't care about the choices.  They just want the abortion right, which in my thinking takes away the right of the father, not to mention the right of the unborn, whom is Innocent and does not even have a voice, unless we give him / her one!!!!

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 May 18, 2005 10:36 AM

Lena,

I know you are correctly Informed about this Issue.  They will use any methods possible to promote and/or make sure a woman has a choice, even if other possiblitys are Present!!!  They don't care about the choices.  They just want the abortion right, which in my thinking takes away the right of the father, not to mention the right of the unborn, whom is Innocent and does not even have a voice, unless we give him / her one!!!!

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*New Thread* May 18, 2005 11:07 AM

Please Read the new thread *Please Read & Input*.  There is a "VERY GOOD" Chance we can save some lives with this.  PLEASE READ & Let me you your thoughts?  This is VERY IMPORTANT, I now have the Ear's and the Backing of Several of the state's lawmakers!   [ send green star]
 
What would NARAL think of this? May 18, 2005 2:11 PM

(I really like this statement, and I think it shows what some women fear if they don't support abortion---and they shouldn't.) 

." Note that women who oppose abortion still agree with feminist goals of equal pay, equal opportunities for women in employment and education, and so on. We don't want to go back to some dark yesteryear where women had no control over their lives. We want to go forward to a world where women are accepted on truly equal terms and do not feel the need to destroy our offspring in order to fit into a society run by and for men.

On the contrary, it's the abortion advocates who look reactionary and backwards by continuing to cling to the notion that pregnant women are "less equal" than non-pregnant ones. Kate Michelman of NARAL once said, "We have to remind people that abortion is the guarantor of a woman's... right to participate fully in the social and political life of society." A society for which abortion is the admission price isn't worth participating in!

Pro-life feminism is the future because it promises to expand, rather than contract, the circle of humanity. It promises truly equal human rights for all human beings, not just those deemed worthy by the powerful. That spirit places pro-life feminism in harmony with all other movements for social progress.

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I'm Leaving! May 18, 2005 5:34 PM

I don't think I'm right for this group! I am strong voice for abortion! I work in a hospital where hundreds of unwanted babies are born! I think it would better if they were not born at all!!! All that will happen is they will grow up to be criminals keep spawning more stupid bastards! I think if an unwed mother has a child out of wedlock, SHE SHOULD HAVE HER TUBES TIED A.S.A.P!!!!!  [ send green star]
 
anonymous Does anyone know who Alveda King is? May 18, 2005 5:40 PM

If you do, do you know what her stance is on abortion? I know the answers to these questions, I just want to see who else may be aware.

Renegade, Alveda's ears are waiting to hear from you. I hope you will contact her. She will be a mighty adversary.

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anonymous PS May 18, 2005 5:43 PM

Here's a hint

Sons of Thunder

Available January 2004 from Xlibris Publishing (http://www.Xlibris.com)

http://www.kingforamerica.com/publications.htm

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anonymous OK - just one more May 18, 2005 5:44 PM

http://www.kingforamerica.com/  [report anonymous abuse]
 
*That's Nice* May 19, 2005 9:04 AM

Yes I aware who the person is, Nor am I afaraid of her nor anyone else for that matter.  I will go to any length's to protect any friend or oppose any foe.  I am going to get some changes made, you bet on that, I do not care who stands in my way, Have a nice day!  Renegade R.   [ send green star]
 
*Peeps* May 19, 2005 9:16 AM

Peeps,

I found your wording very offensive."All that will happen is they will grow up to be criminals keep spawning more stupid bastards!" Who is to say they will grow up to be criminals?  I who plenty of people who are adopted and grew up to do many great things.  Number one I feel if that is truly your thought, then your in the wrong line of work.  Number 2 if you choose this line of like wording again, I will deleate the post, and may well ban you.  One of the rules of this group is anybody can have a say just nothing offensive to anyone.  I think that was offensive to alot of people not just me.  "at the request of my co-host you were warned".

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from rnclife.org May 19, 2005 12:26 PM

"The goal we are seeking is for every nascent child (a.k.a.— unborn baby) to be protected in law regardless of whether he is welcome or wanted! The UNwelcome babies are the very ones who most need our protection! "

Well said ---from rnclife.org

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 May 19, 2005 12:39 PM

http://www.eadshome.com/ProlifeConverts.htm

All Killing Aside, NARAL Can't Impose "Choice" On Pro-life America
By Bonnie Chernin Rogoff
January 20, 2003

"Through our name change we are underscoring that our country is pro-choice... It is the right name for this moment in history."

With those words, Kate Michelman, President of the National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League, announced a name change to reflect (or more accurately, memorialize) what she claims is the majority viewpoint on abortion. The organization will now be called "NARAL: Pro-choice America." The new name removes any reference to abortion and blurs the lines of reality by putting the focus squarely on the decision rather than the outcome.

This is the third name change for NARAL. Along with abortion writer Lawrence Lader and radical feminist Betty Friedan, former abortionist Dr. Bernard Nathanson co-founded the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws in 1969. To reflect the 1973 Roe decision, NARAL's name was revised to The National Abortion Rights Action League. The name was again modified, and the words "Reproductive Rights" were added to de-emphasize abortion.

Detaching abortion from "choice" has been NARAL's protocol from the beginning. Since his early days as an abortion pioneer and Chairman of the Executive Committee of NARAL, Dr. Nathanson has had a change of heart and is now a pro-life advocate and eloquent spokesman. In a recent interview published on the Pro-life Infonet, Dr. Nathanson recalls the movement's early days, and their campaign to deceive Americans and win public approval for abortion:

"I remember laughing when we made those slogans up. We were looking for some sexy, catchy slogans to capture public opinion. They were very cynical slogans then, just as all of these slogans today are very, very cynical."

By substituting the euphemisms "choice" and "reproductive freedom" for an act of violence, the propaganda campaign took root. By its name alone, "Planned Parenthood" is delusional; most women enter the PP mills pregnant, but exit as murderers, not mothers.

Dr. Nathanson recalled a number of myths promoted in the early days that helped deconstruct the culture's long-standing pro-life attitudes:

Myth #1: Most people (60%) favor abortion. This was a fictional poll.

Myth #2: 10,000 women were dying annually from abortions during the 1960's. (The actual figure was about 250.)

Myth #3: Legalization would only impact the current illegal abortion rate; these abortions would now simply be performed legally. (With 1.5 million legal abortions performed annually, it is the primary method of birth control in America.)

There was also the population explosion myth. By promulgating disinformation about a potential dramatic increase in childbirth once baby boomers married, abortion was advanced as a solution to the pending crisis of scarce natural resources.

The myths worked. Since 1973, the promotion of "choice" and lack of judicial restraint assured continual anti-life legislation. Both Roe v. Wade and its companion decision, Doe v. Bolton were written by Justice Harry Blackmun. Most Americans are unfamiliar with Doe because the mainstream media obscured important details contained in the decision. Doe codified Roe, allowing circumstances such as a girl's age, familial factors and depression to qualify as health considerations. This loophole in the law protected abortionists - not pregnant women - and ensured that killing unborn babies would continue throughout all three trimesters. The U. S. Supreme Court used Doe's health clause to narrowly reaffirm Roe v. Wade in 1992. The High Court later declared state partial birth abortion bans unconstitutional without the "health" exception.

Ironically, two women who immortalized the Supreme Court Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton decisions regret their roles in legalizing abortion. These two crusaders (Norma McCorvey and Sandra Cano) were exploited by their lawyers. Like Dr. Nathanson, these women are staunchly pro-life.

From Norma McCorvey's website, Roe No More (www.roenomore.org): "Working inside the abortion industry, Norma saw how abortion degraded women; she was surprised at the exorbitant dollars that kept rolling into the doctors' pockets; she saw the blatant exploitation as abortion advocates put political rhetoric above safe medicine; and she eventually began to question the movement for which she once said she "lived and breathed." If the three people most closely involved with abortion admit that the premise was built on a lie, why should anyone believe the abortion industry is more honest today?

In this regard, Life Dynamics, a pro-life organization out of Denton Texas, conducted a surveillance operation directed against Planned Parenthood abortion mills throughout the country. Via a series of taped telephone interviews, a caller disguised herself as a 13 year old girl who was pregnant with her 22 year old boyfriend. Routinely, the clinic receptionist acted as an accomplice to the teen, coaching the girl on how to lie about the relationship, even providing instructions on how to bypass the state's mandatory parental notification laws. When asked by the "girl" if her illicit relationship would be reported, most clinic personnel indicated they would not contact the authorities. By adopting a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, Planned Parenthood is aiding and abetting statutory rapists. It's not difficult to imagine how many teenagers have become Planned Parenthood clients, and victims of the men Planned Parenthood protects on behalf of abortion profits.

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 May 19, 2005 12:39 PM

The abortion racketeers sense trouble. They can't force their "choice" on Americans unless it is accompanied by ignorance and deception of our citizens, and ambiguous consent on the part of pregnant women, most of whom are misled into a hasty, regrettable decision. Polls indicate most Americans harbor a growing distrust for the aggressive, extremist tactics used by pro-abortion groups and their Democrat allies in Congress. Most people support parental consent laws. Powerful ultrasound images in the womb clearly negate claims that living unborn beings are gobs of tissue. Frivolous lawsuits to stop the production of voluntary "Choose Life" license plates, the proceeds of which help pregnant women have their babies, are seen by most sensible people as ridiculous and counterproductive. Intervention at the local level against Crisis Pregnancy Centers, and laws impelling OBGYN residents in New York City hospitals to perform abortions as part of their training go against the concept of freedom of choice. Younger doctors refuse to perform abortions, which means the industry itself is in danger of dying.

What's the motivation behind the NARAL name change? In a word, fear. For the first time in thirty years, the President and both Houses of Congress are Republican, and lean pro-life. President Bush, who seems to have forfeited his pro-life commitments in recent months, renominated Judges Pickering and Owens (both pro-life) to the Circuit Courts. The only way Democrats can ouster them is via a Senate filibuster.

As related in a New York Times article, A NARAL pollster contends that "there is a sharp drop in understanding of the abortion issue among people who were children in 1973." He states: "For a lot of them, if you showed them a coat hanger, they don't know what it means."

Sure they do. They know it belongs in a locked closet, hanging alongside thirty years of abortion lies that have rotted logical discourse. Children have been taught the facts of life, without learning the facts about life.

January 22, 2003 will mark the tragic 30th anniversary of the dual Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton decisions. Someday, those decisions will be reversed. Americans have grown wiser. As compared with a decade ago:

* 20% of Americans are more pro-life;

* Only 5% of Americans say they are more pro-abortion;

* 32% of Americans changed their opinion on abortion and more than 67% became more pro-life, and;

* The strongest opposition to abortion is now among 18 - 20 year olds.

They see past the rhetoric, and recent election results reflect a pro-life trend. Women hurt by abortion are marred by their experiences, and their views on "choice" shift. Advances in technology provide windows into the womb. With disclosure comes truth, with truth comes a shift in thinking and voting, and with changes in administrations come life-affirming legislation.

Kate Michelman, I contest your claim. Americans are strongly pro-life.

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i am only joining this group to ask a question May 24, 2005 2:00 PM

i am against abortion but i am pro choice, now let me explane we as women should have the right to choose ! without choice i might as welll live in pakastany countrys and there laws, and be told what to do with mybody.  i have 3 wonderful children, and would adopt all the ones i could if i could afford it. most people who are apart of NARAL believe the same way i do.
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 May 24, 2005 4:28 PM

Pro-Abortion and Pro-Choice are the same thing.

Planned Parenthood and NARAL came up with a nicer sounding term for political reasons.

By either name, both are the same. Both favor mothers being allowed to murder their babies, for convenience.
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 May 24, 2005 7:05 PM

Audelle,

I do appreciate your Input, Altho I don't agree with it.  But here in this Group we do appreciate your thought's and your opinion's.  Even if I or anybody else here does not agree.  Please feel free to keep your membership though we would appreciate any and all members Input's.

Frank,

I can't tell you how much I agree with your last post, also yes I think "Most" of america is pro-life.  thank you again for your Input, and yes I think your right on the point with that post.

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Roe-vs-Wade "The Big Lie" May 24, 2005 7:25 PM

Frank,

Not to even mention the woman who was Roe lied in the first place to get the abortion.  She first told people she was "Raped" and later we find out she had an affair.  The whole lawsuit and the decision Roe-VS-Wade was based on lies.  Had the truth been told in the first place the decision whould have been different... Good work Frank! 

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Opps May 24, 2005 7:26 PM

Should have read "To Get The Abortion Decision" Sorry!  [ send green star]
 
offended as well May 24, 2005 7:54 PM

Peeps

I agree with you and Renegade.

I agree with you that this isnt the right group for you. I agree with Renegade that the way you spoke was very offensive. I certainly hope I never have to go to the hospital where you work. You seem very uncaring and cold. I have never seen a bastard child, i've only seen bastard parents who don't take care of their responsibility. I'm not sure why people choose to call a child born out of wedlock a bastard. It makes no sense to me.

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TRIXIE May 24, 2005 8:05 PM

Trixie,

Thank you for your post.  I was not going to give anybody the satisfaction of even replying to that, but I did inform her that her use of launguage was at best offensive, and it would not be tolerated.  I will listen to any opionion, but not like that.  Once again thank you Trixie....Renegade R.

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Depends on how you look at it May 24, 2005 11:49 PM

Frank and Renegade, Pro Abortion is that you are totally against it. Pro Choice is a little bit different, anyone can make a choice about anything. We do it everyday, the problem is when women say it is my choice, my body, my life...as you have seen the main word here is MY, well that to me is not right. When she goes to bed with a man, that is basically saying it is your body to. If a woman wants things to be just hers, then she really should stay completely celebate, that fixes the problem of getting pregnant..OH another thing, I do not know who did the bocking and it goes against what I have told others. We all have a right to speak, so I took care of the blocks.  [ send green star]
 
*Oh My* May 25, 2005 10:00 AM

Laurie's last post I just had a talk with her, She got her pro's and con's mixed up, I think she took her sleeping pill a bit early last night (LOL). Also I stopped the Anon postings, Laurie did not know this. I felt they were not needed in a OPEN group like this one. I felt it was being used just to pick a fight with megan and Trixie, whom are both good members, with alot to offer to the group, that is why we allow all views, and opions here, so I felt there was no need for anon postings.  [ send green star]
 
 May 25, 2005 10:19 AM

Laurie:

Looks like we need to agree to disagree. "Pro-Choice" is a term developed by NARAL (see above) so as to be more politically acceptable and to divert attention from the horror of abortion.

Shakespeare wrote: "What's in a name? That which we call a rose By any other word would smell as sweet."

Well, abortion by any other name is still abortion.

When we try to split hairs to make the two different, we may cause more harm than good.

Pro-Abortion and Pro-Choice are the same thing.

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*P.S.* May 25, 2005 4:25 PM

Frank,

Your 100% right, I had a talk with laurie this morning and she honestly made an honest mistake in her typing/and or wording.  I caught it right away when i checked my Mail this morning, but it was by accident...take care...Renegade R.

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Reply to Audelle May 25, 2005 5:10 PM

Hi Audelle!

You have to recognize that the usual meaning of «Pro-Choice» IS «Pro-Abortion». So being one is being the other because they're the same.

You mentioned 2 very important rights. I'm going to rephrase them:

1st - any human being is supposed to have the right to choose ABOUT ITS OWN LIFE and not only women.

2nd - any human being is supposed to have the right to do whatever wants with its body BUT NOT WITH OTHERS' ONE.

Well, a baby inside its mother's womb is a human being, with a GENETIC MAKE-UP and an ANATO-PHISIOLOGY of ITS OWN - which means that IT IS NOT A PART OF ITS MOTHERS' BODY, just lives inside of it has we live inside of our own home without being any part of it. Therefore it has the above 2 rights like any of us.

The problem is that A BABY CANNOT EXERT THOSE RIGHTS BY ITSELF - either inside of the womb or outside.

So someone, or something, MUST DO IT IN THE BABY'S NAME.

The parents, society, law, government or whoever has enough power MUST ACT AS IF IT WAS THAT BABY. It is reasonable to assume that the baby would choose to exert the above 2 rights, in order to live the happiest possible life, instead of choosing death.

Therefore, to KILL THAT BABY IS OUT OF THE QUESTION because it would VIOLATE THOSE 2 FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS that HE HAS!

About NARAL, are you sure that most of those who support NARAL believe the same way you do?! If this is the case maybe they need more information about NARAL'S TRUE NATURE.

GOD BLESS!

Pedro Alves

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Frank and Renegade May 25, 2005 9:13 PM

I am sorry about the mis type, I guess I should watch takin sleepin pills when I am on here. As for Renegade blocking the anonymous people, that will have to stay as is. Even though I out rank Ren in age..LOL LOL. I understand his point. Frank will a huggie make up my small hole in me brain???? HUGS  [ send green star]
 
Alveda King is against abortion May 25, 2005 9:33 PM

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 May 25, 2005 9:36 PM

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How can the “Dream” survive if we murder the children? Every aborted baby is like a slave in the womb of his or her mother. The mother decides his or her fateDr. Alveda C. King Niece of Dr. Martin Luther King speaks out for the future of the yet unborn.

In the ongoing travesty of the debate over whether abortion and infanticide should be condoned, a voice in the wilderness continues to cry out, "what about the children?" We have been fueled by the fire of "women’s rights," so long that we have become deaf to the outcry of the real victims whose rights are being trampled upon, the babies and the mothers. Of course a woman has a right to decide what to do with her own body. Thank God for the Constitution. Yet, she also has a right to know the serious consequences and repercussions of making a decision to abort her child. Then too, what about the rights of each baby who is artificially breached before coming to term in his or her mother’s womb, only to have her skull punctured, and feel, yes agonizingly "feel" the life run out of her before she takes her first breath of freedom. What about of the rights of these women who have been called to pioneer the new frontiers of the new millennium only to have their lives snuffed out before the calendar even turns?

Oh, God, what would Martin Luther King, Jr., who dreamed of having his children judged by the content of their characters do if he’d lived to see the contents of thousands of children’s skulls emptied into the bottomless caverns of the abortionists pits?

It is time for America, perhaps the most blessed nation on earth to lead the world in repentance, and in restoration of life! If only we can carry the freedom of repentance to its fullest potential. If only America can repent and turn away from the sins of our nation. Abortion is at the forefront of our destruction. Partial Birth Abortion is perhaps the most heinous form of this legal genocide. Direct links connecting abortion and serious conditions such as breast and cervical cancer, emotional disorders and other serious ills must be considered! The only healing and redemption is in the blood of Jesus, blood willingly shed so that we could stand today and cry out for the blood of the unborn that is drenching the land of our children.

What terribly mixed signals we are sending to our society today? We allow and even encourage them to engage in promiscuous sex. Then when their sin conceives, we pretty much tell them, "don’t kill your babies, let our abortion facilities do it for you." We march to cure breast cancer, yet promote one of the biggest contributors. I am a mother of six living children, and I am a grandmother. I am also a post-abortive mother. In the early 1970’s, I suffered one involuntary and one voluntary abortion.

My involuntary abortion was performed just prior to Roe v. Wade by my private physician without my consent. I had gone to the doctor to ask why my cycle had not resumed after the birth of my son. I did not ask for and did not want an abortion. The doctor said, “You don’t need to be pregnant, let’s see.” He proceeded to perform a painful examination which resulted in a gush of blood and tissue emanating from my womb. He explained that he had performed a “local D and C.”

Soon after the Roe v. Wade decision, I became pregnant again. There was adverse pressure and threat of violence from the baby’s father. The ease and convenience provided through Roe v. Wade made it too easy for me to make the fateful and fatal decision to abort our child.


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OH THANKS May 26, 2005 5:30 AM

Lena thanks for that info, had me worried there for a bit..  [ send green star]
 
Laurie May 26, 2005 7:32 AM

Why would you be worried? You know I would never promote anything in this group that would be "for" abortion.

MLK I think, is turning in his grave over the abortion issue. Abortion is the hugest violation of civil rights there is. What gets me is that so many people are not yet aware of Dr. Alveda King and what she stands for. So many feel that because MLK's words (which btw are used out of context, just like the Bible) are used to support abortion by abortion supporters, that when they or others hear the King name they automatically think that invokes "pro death". That of course is not the case. If anyone were to read the words and works of MLK and his brother, the Rev. Alfred Daniel Williams King I http://www.kingforamerica.com/adkfoundation.htm. They would know that the civils rights movement in their times was not about abortion! What nerve NARAL and planned parenthood to use their words to promote genocide!  

She also quotes here:

"Oh, God, what would Martin Luther King, Jr., who dreamed of having his children judged by the content of their characters do if he’d lived to see the contents of thousands of children’s skulls emptied into the bottomless caverns of the abortionists pits?"

http://www.kingforamerica.com/adkfoundation_article2.htm

I am promoting Alveda King because NARAL and Planned Parenthood try so hard to silence her voice. It is time we help her to help us "Be silent no more!"

 

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*DECEIT FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD & NARAL* June 13, 2005 7:55 PM

Hello Everybody,

I can't beleive that, with everybody knowing Roe-VS-Wade was based on one or more lies, that the decision still stands.  It is just horrifying.

 I dont know if you have heard or not but I dropped my membership to planned parenthood.  When my 16 year old daughter came home and told me the crap they were pushing on these kids in school, I literally became sick to my stomache.

To be more specific, I can't see the difference between NARAL & Planned parenthood, then I heard an actual tape of a call from a 14 year old to planned parenthood, where the worker there steered her to an abortion clinic, made a app. for her, then came up with a lie for her to tell her mother and father so as they would not find out.

I find this so damned disturbing, I really cant even fathom this, it Intrudes on our parental rights, it willfully can and will do ir-repeirable damage to families, it promotes things I don't even want to think about.

Teenagers, do not always make the right decisions, thats why they have parents.  When an organization such as planned parenthood does this, where does this leave us?

Planned parenthood--NARAL, Whats the difference?  The name?  They both stand for the same thing, at least as far as I can tell, after tons of resurch, they stand for the same thing, UNCONTROLLED ABORTION, INVASION OF PARENTAL RIGHTS, AND MURDER IN THE NAME OF BIRTH CONTROL IS JUST FINE.

I'm sorry people I can't live with that, and I AM going to do something about it.  In case your wondering what I mean, let me say this "NARAL-PLANNED PARENTHOOD" THIS IS A DECLARATION OF WAR!  Renegade.(JOHN)

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"Lena and We are in need of a third major political party" April 01, 2006 6:10 AM

I doubt anyone will see this but I'm going to comment anyway.  I'm am a believer in life and in "father rights" but more I believe in "creation" and the fetus'es rights!  This is my reasoning for favoring 'civil rights' over that of 'equal rights'!  Roe v Wade points out the injustice of 'equal rights', egnoring those of the male and giving cart blanche to that of the female!!!
With that said I am against any sort of censurship even if it is a citizens right to ignor opposition by banning them from a conversation.  How can you maybe change their thinking if you don't hear their arguement?

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Lena April 01, 2006 6:12 AM

The above should have been directed to "Renegade"  [ send green star]
 
 April 01, 2006 10:10 AM

Peeps. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.  [ send green star]
 
Hi Everyone January 24, 2007 8:39 AM

I just joined this group and have spent a good deal of time reading through this post. I oppose abortion for any reason. I'm sorry, but it's not the babies fault that he/she was concieved. Even as a result of rape or incest, abortion is murder in my opinion. It would be hard to carry a child that was the result of rape or incest, but I think it would be harder to abort the pregnancy, ending a life before the baby had a chance to be born, a chance to fulfill their potential.

NARAL claims to be pro-choice, but what about the babies choice? Doesn't he/she have a say? Was it the childs fault that it was concieved? With all the available forms of birth control there are very few reasons for an unplanned pregnancy.

I was born long before Roe v Wade, long before you could take a pill to prevent conception. Back when abortions were only performed if the life of the mother was in eminent danger. My mom had a difficult pregnancy about 2 years before she became pregnant with me. My brother, James, died shortly after he was born and the doctors told my mom that she should not get pregnant again because another pregnancy would probably kill her. I am the youngest of 5 children, so it's not that my parents didn't have any other kids, but when my mom found out that she was pregnant with me she and my dad discussed their options with the doctor. My mom told me that it really wasn't a difficult decision for her. As much as she wanted to live, neither she nor my dad ever gave any serious consideration to accepting the abortion the doctor had advised. She stated that they both knew it wasn't my fault that she got pregnant. So she carried me, delivered me, raised me and loved me. She was in the hospital for almost a month after I was born, because she almost died. My mother chose life for me, even at the possible expense of her own and I am forever grateful for my life.

I am Pro-Life because I believe in the rights of the unborn; for moral reasons, religious reasons and personal reasons.

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anonymous Pro choice is not pro abortion April 22, 2009 9:13 AM

Amongst my own folks all matters concerning the conception, gestation and birth of a child are considered matters of "The Womans Mystery" and belonging solely to women. These are not matters for men to discuss or even express any opinion about. They are certainly not matters for the Church or the state to be meddling in.

 Abortion is indeed rare amongst us but these decisions are left up to the womens councils to decide and are matters for the individual most directly involved to consider. We certainly DO NOT want either the Church or the state to meddle in the affairs of women for any reason.

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Here is the link for Roe vs Wade June 05, 2009 8:01 PM

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0410_0113_ZO.html  [ send green star]
 
Prevent Unwanted Birth July 28, 2009 8:08 AM

I would like to say a couple things. I am not for abortion-I wish it was never necessary, to say I am FOR abortion is ridiculous. I also understand that there is NEVER a good time to have a child-there will always be a struggle. However, I think sometimes people don't consider how hard it is to be a single mother. I grew up with a single mother of 4 children and knew a single father as well. My mother was a doctor, so it wasn't too hard for her.

Having a baby is extremely complicated-so many things have to be in order. Myself, I am on certain medicines that if I got pregnant by 'accident', my baby would have a lot of defects, a lot of diseases. I would have to abort it-not because I don't love children, but because it would not be healthy and have little chance for life. I could not watch my baby die.
That is why we need safe sex education--and that is why I think these NARAL groups are important. Because that is how we prevent abortions ultimately, not by making them illegal. Lets face it-they have existed for a LONG time and won't just disappear. You can't change the mind of that many people.
Also, I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for men in these situations. You do not have a right over your partners body. It simply is not so and can never be. Women have fought too hard. If you loved someone, you would let them make their own decision. If you are married or in a committed relationship, that is another matter.

Also, someone made a comment about getting your tubes tide. You can't get it done unless you have a VERY good reason. I know I don't want children, but I am 20, so I am not allowed to do the procedure. So, it is not that simple.

Finally, another way to prevent a persons desire to have an abortion is better health care and support for single or teenage mothers. Can't both pro-life and pro-choice *who are ultimately pro-life, by the way* find a way to compromise and push for the same thing? It saddens me. No one wants to destroy a POTENTIAL life (the baby is a mass of cells in the beginning, I'm sorry I have no compassion for that).

Anyway, just a few thoughts. Please don't attack me. I want to know what you think and if you think this is possible. Understand that there are two lives always involved in an abortion-not one.

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