Let’s face it. Obama won the election. Just like Putin and Ahmadinejad did theirs. The only difference is that unlike Iranians and Russians, Americans won’t be gathering in the streets to protest their disenfranchisement at the hands of the corrupt Democratic Party machine.
First, he received over 99% of the vote in districts where GOP inspectors were illegally removed. Next, he won 100% of the vote in 21 districts in Cleveland. Well, he’s gotten another lucky break!
Mr. Obama won Wood County in Ohio this year. That’s right, Mr. Obama won the majority of Wood County’s 108% of registered voters. That’s not a typo.
In 2012, 106,258 people in Wood County are registered to vote out of an eligible 98,213.
Secretary of College Democrats Morgan Holliger chimed in, “We won Wood County, we won Ohio.”
Mr. Obama did indeed win Wood County, along with its 108% of voters.
Half the Democratic ground game is voter turnout. The other half is voter fraud. Voter ID would make an impact on this game, but that would be just like the return of Segregation or something.
Here you go Sheila, one more case, Ohio. Getting better by the minute. How can 8% more people vote than registered to vote? Where is the mathmatically explained?
Some people are starting to call for a new election entirely;not just a recount of votes and they want montors (wanting it assigned so that the inspectors are in teams of one Republican and one Democrat working together; not all of one party or the other). Further, voter ID has to be provided with picture ID that is current.
We may not get that this time, but it is time to work for election reform and voter reform. First, all States should be required to open their voter records and the information input into a central base where there can be a check for duplicate registrations. It should be required that you can only vote in the state where you reside with the exception of the Military. I believe that the Military should be allowed separate consideration; rather than voting in their respective state of normal residence, they should vote in a separate "federal state for the military and all Americans working outside the U.S.". They would lose the opportunity to vote in those areas representing their state, but at least they would be able to vote for the president who is their commander-in-chief. Possibly we should create another 2 Senate seats and, depending on the number of enlisted, appropriate number of Representatives and these people that run would come from the military, either active or retired military persons. They could even form a party and have a candidate for president, what the heck.
But this way there would be no question of their getting their ballots in time to vote, the military would control this seeing that the ballots got to them in plenty of time and returned in time to be counted with the normal election ballots.
I do think that all states need to return to polling stations and no more mailed ballots across the board: Oregon and Washington State both have gone to mailed ballots only with no polling station voting and I do not see how this can be construed as fraud-proof at all. I could get a ballot for my brother that had lived with me and died 4 months before the election and cast his ballot regardless of the fact he had died, or my mother could be in a nursing home with Altzheimer's and unable mentally to vote, so I could vote for her. I know it is happening.
I know that this seems far out there, but it will take brainstorming of ideas and consideration of all possible scenerios, but bottom line is there is way too much voter fraud regardless of what party and only weakens our system of government if it is allowed to continue. Since the Parties can't police themselves and are behind this fraud, then we have to set in place new procedures to stop this. Everyone (well maybe not Obama) has a valid birth certificate, if they are not U.S. citizens, they don't have the right to vote. For those that find getting to a DMV or other location to get an official photo ID card difficult, I would think that each area's political parties would be able to provide transporation for these people or there is some other form of transportation. That argument escapes me as they can get to a grocery store for food, they can get to the nearest larger city for things. And with the rate that they have built or are building Walmarts in rural areas, I would think that there might be a way that they could have a voter registration area set up in Walmarts; I know in Washington State they have them in fire stations; so that is another possibiity as everyone has fire protection and it has to be reasonably close to where people live; set up even in volunteer stations.
Boy am I rambling; sorry. I just want to emphasize that we need voter reform, voter registration and actual casting ballot reform and we need it now; not a month before the next election in November of 2013, 2014, 2015 or 2016; we need it now and that is a priority I would think.
The Wood County result sounds off since I'm familiar with that county. It is primarily rural except for the county seat, Bowling Green, that has Bowling Green University that has a large student population. Wouldn't be surprised that there were quite a few students that voted there and wherever their home was as well.
John, that is what we have had reports of from other areas of the U.S., too. I know that Sheila reported of a bus load of college kids being brought into New Hampshire to vote and then taken back across the state line to their college. I do think that there is a lot of this that was happening and, frankly, I think voter fraud is how Obama won the election;but how to prove.
Well good moring Rambling Rose. (Linda) I agree with you for the most part of what you've said, but I'm not so sure that BANNING the mail in ballots is a cure all. I personally prefer to mail mine in. I can sit down with Carole. We can discuss who is who, and what did they do or promise to do. And on and on it goes, so in an hour's time, we more or less agree on whom we feel is the better of the various candidates and we check off whomever we feel is correct. That does not necessarily mean that we agree with one another, and it certainly does not mean that we've both voted in the same manner. We had a few of the local candidates that I voted for and she voted for others for whatever reason she desired. That's the way the system is supposed to work. But with the exception of the PRESIDENT and VICE PRESIDENT that we voted for, (Which were exactly the same) I have no definite knowledge of how the rest of the ballot looked on her side nor does she know exactly which people I checked off, simply because we discussed two or three people at a time.
With a Social Security ID, and in particular, coming from a HOME OWNER or from a repeat voter from the same DISTRICT or PRECINCT, there should be very little room for error.
Next, I think that the should be a FEDERAL LAW PUT INTO EFFECT (or it could be local) that if you DID IN FACT vote in excess of ONE TIME for a given candidate and it could be knowingly stated that you were aware of having done that, you would be fined heavily, and whether or not you would spend MUCH TIME IN JAIL, you would spend at least a minimal amount of time in either an incarceration situation or on a community service project, at which point you would be devoting time for your home town in completing work loads that would other wise cost tax payers excessive amounts of money. So you would, in reality, be helping to control costs without putting people out of work. The only people who are going to argue about FICTITIOUS I D, or HAVING TO SHOW IT, are the ones who are likely to try and beat the system. Maybe, not only would Soc. Security numbers, and possibly Photo ID be sufficient, but perhaps even a copy of a recent PAY STUB for NEW REGISTERS as that might help to eliminate FRAUDULENT EMPLOYER / EMPLOYEE Agreements which would ultimately stop the massive IMMIGRATION FICTITIOUS NAMES etc.
Just a couple of thought
Jim (PS - I'm for a Re-Election again, NOW - but without allowing further campaigning
If there were tons of people who were moved about for the convenience of double and triple voting, that would present a very awkward situation for those who went back where they came from. The towns that send out the Absentee ballots and and sample sheets etc have lists of Registered Voters, and those on the list could be searched for duplication of one of 3 or four things. Names, Addresses, Social Security Numbers, & Political Preference. With todays computers, it would take but a very small amount of time to pick out duplication. And even with Photo ID, the computerization of pictures can go so rapidly, that s likeness of two people voting in a given area, would be picked up very quickly also.
For anyone who has ever Taken a Cruise, you would be familiar with this procedure, as you would likely have had your picture taken when you get on a cruise ship. It is fed to a central storage area. Then each time you depart, and re enter you must stand in front of that photo machine and it scans you. If you are legit, you continue on, but if you stole someone else's ID and tried to enter the ship for elicit purposes, POOF you are nailed instantly.
So there are lots of way to prevent fraud, and like I said earlier, the ones who squawk the loudest about that, would likely be the ones who are agreeable to violating the rules.
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I think all cases and reports of voter fraud from this campaign need to be examined thoroughly.
Maybe, some are not but they need to be investigated.
This is how the democrats win with the aid of the labor unions.
Today, BO meets with the Union leaders on how to revive the economy and tomorrow he meets with business. Funny, how unions supercede all the time. They are dictating to BO what to tell the private businesses what they expect. The Unions will control this admin. and get first preference always, this meeting signals their power as they met first and they did not include anyone from commerce and business in this meeting.
Obama really divides everything he touches.
Obama is divide and conquer.
He knows nothing but community organizing and Alinsky tactics which use that premise to succeed.
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