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Food for thought Re: Ridiculous Gun Measures
5 years ago

I know this subject is getting over worked but it isn't going to go away until the US Government puts it away.


That JOURNAL in New York should be ashamed of its actions. It has used worse than a double edged sword by publishing names and addresses of registered gun owners. I'm betting that there are going to be more people shot and killed now as a result of it.


A: People who are looking for a place to rob weapons, will how have a map drawn out for all too see. And knowing where the weapons are, and that they could be used, they will tend to be on the offensive much quicker and will enter the premises with the intent to shoot to kill if confronted. Meanwhile they will know too, the homes that aren't protected. Thirdly, the ones that do have weaponry on hand will be prepared, more so than ever to defend their ownership of those weapons. It could prove to be very bloody and ugly.


Some have suggested that the JOURNAL be boycotted. I'm in full agreement.


The New York newspaper that published a map of names and addresses of gun owners only made it easier for crooks to choose which houses to break into, seemingly putting unarmed residents in greater danger, former burglars told At the same time, gun owners could also become targeted by thieves who are looking to steal weapons.

TheBlaze previously reported that the Journal-News, serving Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties in New York, has come under fire for the editorial decision to make innocent Americans’ personal information public when no crimes had been committed. Reformed burglars told that the information could be very beneficial to thieves in that they now know which houses are unarmed and may be easy targets as well as which houses have weapons that can be stolen.

“That was the most asinine article I’ve ever seen,” former burglar and jewel thief Walter T. Shaw said. “Having a list of who has a gun is like gold – why rob that house when you can hit the one next door, where there are no guns?”

The FBI reportedly blames Shaw, 65, for more than 3,000 break-ins that netted some $70 million in the 1960s and 1970s.  In other words, his credentials as a thief are legitimate.

“What they did was insanity,” Shaw added.

Ex Burglars: Newspapers Gun Owner Map Exceptionally Stupid, Helps Crooks

Frank Abagnale seen at Advertising Week on Thursday, Oct. 4, 2012 in New York. Credit: Invision for Advertising Week

Arguably one of the most famous burglars ever, Frank Abagnale, who was portrayed by Leonardo DiCaprio in 2002′s “Catch Me if You Can,” called the newspaper’s decision “reprehensible.”

This post was modified from its original form on 05 Jan, 10:02
5 years ago

In my reckoning, penalties for invasion of privacy as well as both civil and criminal liablity for harm done by assisting criminals is in order.

5 years ago

This should not have happened and it is an invasion of privacy.    This has turned into a "free for all" nightmare.

5 years ago

I would think this does violate a person's civil liberties and where are the Civil Liberties Union for this one?  Out to lunch as they support this sort of action if it is favoring their cause.  

5 years ago

Actually it is worse than the article presents since many of the permit holders are in law enforcement, retired law enforcement, people that have orders of protection against stalkers/abusive ex spouses/etc, or other wise have a reason for their name not to be publicized in addition to just owning a firearm. There already have been incidents of harassment by criminals or abusers. It is unclear from the "reporting" if the list includes those who have a rifle or shotgun or if this is just pistol permit holders. If the latter, them there may be some surprised crooks that think a home is unprotected when it isn't. Of course the most effective home protection there would be those "evil" tactical style weapons the gun ignorant like to call "assault weapons" including some "scary" pump shotguns. Don't you just love those "compassionate" and "civil rights loving" "progressives" when they are on a jihad against one of their "social issue" targets?

5 years ago

When I see the President of the United States give up his Gun protection and those other phony politicans in Washington DC and other States, give up their Gun protection, I MAY consider giving up mine.


When I see the United States Government STOP selling Arms and Weapons of Mass Destruction to the rest of the world, I MAY consider giving up mine. But until that time comes........ my guns will remain at my side.


After all whats good for the goose should be good for the gander. AMEN

5 years ago

I don't know your age, Frank, but I think that if I say to you, "do you plan on hanging around this place called earth, for another 50 or more years?" your answer is likely to be an emphatic NO!


Anything short of that, is not going to produce your wishes or mine when it come to those up there on the so called "HILL" in Washington, D C. Up there, you have a bunch of lame brains that are being controlled by orginaizations unknown by you and I and they will do what they are told to do which is exactly what they are doing now, and it isn't good.


Wish my answer could have been more on the positive side, but we are going to have to work a lot harder and a lot smarter before we have any hopes of seeing our wishes materialize.



A Great Reason to have a Weapon At Home
5 years ago

A womand and her twin 9 year old kids are alive today because she had access to her gun.

Poor Idiot who attempted a Home Invasion with a Crow Bar didn't fair out so very well.

Let's Ban Crow Bars and Hammers and other Blunt Instruments of Destruction. Boycott Home Depot and Lowe's instead of the NRA.


A Georgia mother and her two young children are unharmed after a man broke into their house with a crowbar on Friday, cornering them in an attic crawlspace.

According to WSB-TV, the woman was at home with her nine-year-old twins when the doorbell rang.  When they didn’t answer, the man reportedly went back to his car and returned with a crowbar.

Georgia Woman Hiding in Attic With Children Shoots Home Intruder Five Times

(Photo via WSB-TV)

The mother said she could see the suspect– now identified as Paul Slater– trying to enter the house with the crowbar from her office window.  Without hesitation, she grabbed her children, her phone, her gun, and ran upstairs.

One can only imagine the breathless moments after the man broke down the door and began searching the house.

WSB-TV continues:

Georgia Woman Hiding in Attic With Children Shoots Home Intruder Five Times

Paul Slater (Photo: WSB-TV)

But the man eventually found the family.

“The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he’s staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver,” [Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman] told Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh.

The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he moved.

“She’s standing over him, and she realizes she’s fired all six rounds. And the guy’s telling her to quit shooting,” Chapman said.

The woman ran to a neighbor’s home with her children. The intruder attempted to flee in his car but crashed into a wooded area and collapsed in a nearby driveway, Chapman said.  [Emphasis added]

This post was modified from its original form on 06 Jan, 8:50
5 years ago

This is why every family who can get a legal gun should have protect themselves from these idiots.    I  would've taken one shot and he would not have been able to get back into his car.

5 years ago

Actually the GA incident points out why you are better off with a semi auto weapon with large capacity magazines. She shot out her six shots, hit with five, and he was still coming although finally stopped. What if he didn't stop or there were several of them invading the house? .38 revolvers are fine and did the trick here but do have their limits compared to to .40cal or 10mm semi auto pistol with a little more shock value and more rounds along with a quick reload capability with a spare loaded magazine.

5 years ago

The shooter has a choice.....shoot them in the chest, the head or in the upper thigh.  

John, what you are describing is an ambush with four or five people breaking into someone's home.    There are many scenarios we can conjur up in our minds but the bottom line is that Americans who own a hand gun do so for  a stay alive if threatened.

Are hand grenades banned LOL?

5 years ago

Diane: What that is called is a hone invasion robbery when one or more perps force their way in and rob or do worse to the occupants of the building. CN had one of those a couple years back when the terrorized a family, injured the father, and killed the mother and two daughters then burned the house to cover their tracts. The Manson family killing sprees were the same thing. I live not too far from a couple major urban areas and just about weekly there is a report of one of a home invasion occurring in the area. Hand grenades are banned but not sure why you reference those since that doesn't seem to be germane to the discussion here. My point, once again, is if you had multiple perps in this case she would have been out of luck once she shot out her six rounds on one perp. Depending upon the revolver and the access to a speed loader, reloading is much slower and the capacity of other than some .22 revolvers is limited pretty much to 5-6 rounds. By and large the lower range capacity in most semi autos is 7 or greater with most being more than 10 rounds. The capacity and quick reload capability is why the military gave up revolvers (except for some air crews) a century ago and why law enforcement has done the same.

5 years ago

Oh, my!  Haven't been able to post for a few days.  And then I see this!  I bow to all of you for your posts.  Do I have an opinion -- of course. 


How about a 44 Magnum -- I will admit, the first time I fired it at a firing range, it blew me backward about three feet.  And, my ears rang for 2 weeks!  It takes two hands to hold the thing while firing but once you fire it and hit your target - they don't move!  No need for more shots.  And, the instructor told me that if the target is a man to aim for the guy's ding-a-ling.  He will immediately bend over in pain - then, if he survives - fire again. 


It worked for "Dirty Harry".

5 years ago

Publishing the list of permit holders has backfired, since permit applications jumped as a result.
People who were shown not to have a permit felt like an easy target for bad guys.
Liberals never see the big picture.

5 years ago

Apparently the list wasn't even accurate since some of the locations posted the person either applied for a permit and never followed through or no longer lived there. Also it appears that some holders that were or are law enforcement or corrections officers have received harassment or threatening communications.

5 years ago

I am not on Facebook but a friend told me that the person responsible for that article was listed on Facebook along with her address and I belive phone number. Hows that for payback

5 years ago

I think that all this Gun Control BULL is just a smoke screen

5 years ago

It's another step in controlling "the masses" Frank.

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