I said to family and friends immediately; this does not look like the same person.
What is going on????
Anyone ever watch Showtime's Sleeper Cell and Homeland series?
They are about Americans who become mass murderers or Jihadists and act out terrorism by killing many people in movie theatres, malls, airports, public landmarks.
I am just questioning everything; but those photos are not the same person!
Sleeper Cell is a one-hour drama on the Showtime network that began airing on December 4, 2005. The tagline for the first season was "Friends. Neighbors. Husbands. Terrorists." and the tagline for the second season was "Cities. Suburbs. Airports. Targets." The series was nominated for an Emmy award for Outstanding Miniseries. The eight-episode second season of the series, titled Sleeper Cell: American Terror, premiered on December 10, 2006. Both seasons of Sleeper Cell were originally aired in an unusual fashion, by filming the entire season ahead of time and then airing the episodes on consecutive nights, such that each brand new season was aired for the first time over a period of less than two weeks. In Australia, both seasons originally aired on the Showtime Australia channel in 2006/2007. Re-runs as of 2008 have screened on the showcase channel (part of the Showtime Australia group of channels).
There are currently (as of May 2011) no definite plans for a continuation of the series. However, Robert Greenblatt, President of Entertainment for Showtime, was reported in July 2007 to have publicly mentioned the possibility of creating a new installment of the series every few years, similar to the structuring of the British television series Prime Suspect, in that there might be an entirely new cast of characters for each season. In this way, the series could become a way to examine the current state of terrorism, and its evolution over time.
As extra material on the first season DVDs reveal, the show was originally named -------------------------------The Cell.------
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How in the world did his hair get so long in a short period of time in order to dye his hair? Not sure of the nose part cause when you smile your nose will spread wider. His normanl pic has two Zits or birth marks on his face but the mug shot pic onlt has one. Could it be that he has a twin?
Oh, if you wonder why my profile name was changed to Jonjon, ask Care2 cause it was changed without my content or permision to do so.
Jon I don't know also, much problems with Care2 posting all day. Appears to be a little better this afternoon.
This is puzzling to me, the so-called transformation of John Holmes; did he have plastic surgery and change his nose, lips, facial structure?
The hair can be dyed in 30 minutes but the rest, I don't know.
Will The Real James Holmes Please Stand Up?
We know that Barack Hussein Obama drank from the bottle of Frank Marshall Davis’ communism for a decade. We know he held hands with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. We know he surrounded himself with radicals once ascending his throne in the Oval Office. We know he shipped guns to Mexican drug cartels as an excuse to tighten gun control.
These are so-called “conspiracy theories”.
We found it odd that the Colorado massacre occurred days before the UN small arms treaty vote that would, in effect, eventually ban guns in the United States.
We found it predictable that Obama was screaming “gun control!” before the victims were even in the ground.
We found it predictable that Obama’s surrogates were screaming the same, including Nanny Bloomberg and the gaggle of Lefties at MSNBC and all their clones throughout the mainstream media.
Conspiracy theorists wondered whether the massacre was orchestrated by the government. Conspiracy theorists wondered if James Holmes was part of some type of CIA mind control program given that he appeared to be drugged during the preliminary hearing.
His statements while behind bars that he had no idea why he was in jail were scoffed at by his jailers as trying to fake insanity or amnesia. But that really didn’t make sense as his jailers would not testify at trial; the defense and the prosecution’s psychiatrists would.
But what has thrown many “conspiracy theorists” into a tizzy, myself included, are two new conspiracy theories regarding the Colorado massacre (that make the JFK assassination look like a walk in the park):
One: that James Holmes is not James Holmes.
That the college ID photo that made the rounds in the initial twenty-four hours after the massacre is not the same person that was identified in court.
A blogger has taken both photos and done some simple analysis of facial features, specifically the nose and left ear, and they don’t match. Not even close. All day Saturday, bloggers were falling over themselves discussing this oddity.
I remember examining a supposed photo of James Holmes being arrested as an Occupy New York member, and it occurred to me that the college ID photo and the “Joker” photo’s upper lip did not match. At the time, I thought it was because Holmes was simply grimacing or smiling. In the college photo, the upper lip is flat, whereas the “Joker’s” upper lip is what film historians of the 1920s call a “Clara Bow” lip, in which there is a “valley” where the center of the lip comes together. But now I see the upper lips are completely different. The nose is completely different. The left ear of the “Joker” sticks out, whereas in the college ID photo, the ear does not stick out.
The second conspiracy theory is that bloggers are now stating that Robert Holmes, James Holmes’ father, works for a company in which he developed an algorithm or computer program that ferreted out banking fraud and was to testify before Congress about the recent Libor scandal. That his son James was being railroaded by the banking cartels as a deterrent to keep him from testifying.
This goes beyond Obama’s communist connections, birth certificate, Selective Service, Social Security number, or the dozens of other anomalies surrounding one Barack Hussein Obama.
This could only occur in a world ruled by Obama’s Politburo, where the real and the unreal overlap.
The question is, will we ever get back from this nightmare conjured up by Barack Hussein Obama?
I would not put it pass him, he is capable of anything since he is just another puppet being manipulated by the elites...
unbelievable post Elaine, exceptional new questions to ponder over ... I hope everyone really reads this carefully as there are so many questions to ponder. This administration thinks Americans are dupes and the Holmes (colorado shooting) is another trojan horse created by Obama!
News versus propaganda
Since so many in the media cannot resist turning every tragedy into a political talking point, it was perhaps inevitable that (1) someone would try to link the shooting rampage at the Batman movie in Colorado to the Tea Party, and that (2) some would try to make it a reason to impose more gun control laws.
Too many people in the media cannot seem to tell the difference between reporting the news and creating propaganda.
NBC News apparently could not resist doctoring the transcript of the conversation between George Zimmerman and the police after the Trayvon Martin shooting. Now ABC News took the fact that the man arrested for the shooting in Colorado was named James Holmes to broadcast to the world the fact that there is a James Holmes who is a member of the Tea Party in Colorado.
The fact has since come out that these are two different men, one in his 20s and the other in his 50s. But corrections never catch up with irresponsible news broadcasts. The James Holmes who belongs to the Tea Party has been deluged with phone calls. I hope he sues ABC News for every dime they have.
This is not the first time that the mainstream media have tried to create a link between conservatives and violence. Years ago, the Oklahoma City bombing was blamed on Rush Limbaugh, despite the absence of any evidence that the bomber was inspired by Rush Limbaugh.
Similar things have happened repeatedly, going all the way back to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, which was blamed on a hostile right-wing atmosphere in Dallas, even though the assassin had a long history of being on the far left fringe.
But, where the shoe is on the other foot — as when the Unabomber had a much marked-up copy of an environmentalist book by Al Gore — the media heard no evil, saw no evil and spoke no evil. If people in the media cannot decide whether they are in the business of reporting news or manufacturing propaganda, it is all the more important that the public understand that difference, and choose their news sources accordingly.
As for gun control advocates, I have no hope whatever that any facts whatever will make the slightest dent in their thinking — or lack of thinking. New York’s Mayor Bloomberg and CNN’s Piers Morgan were on the air within hours of the shooting, pushing the case for gun control laws.
You might never know, from what they and other gun control advocates have said, that there is a mountain of evidence that gun control laws not only fail to control guns but are often counterproductive. However, for those other people who still think facts matter, it is worth presenting some of those facts.
Do countries with strong gun control laws have lower murder rates? Only if you cherry-pick the data.
Britain is a country with stronger gun control laws than the United States, and lower murder rates. But Mexico, Russia and Brazil are also countries with stronger gun control laws than the United States — and their murder rates are much higher than ours. Israel and Switzerland have even higher rates of gun ownership than the United States, and much lower murder rates than ours.
Even the British example does not stand up very well under scrutiny. The murder rate in New York has been several times that in London for more than two centuries — and, for most of that time, neither place had strong gun control laws. New York had strong gun control laws years before London did, but New York still had several times the murder rate of London.
It was in the later decades of the 20th century that the British government clamped down with severe gun control laws, disarming virtually the entire law-abiding citizenry. Gun crimes, including murder, rose as the public was disarmed.
Meanwhile, murder rates in the United States declined during the same years when murder rates in Britain were rising, which were also years when Americans were buying millions more guns per year.
The real problem, both in discussions of mass shootings and in discussions of gun control, is that too many people are too committed to a vision to allow mere facts to interfere with their beliefs, and the sense of superiority that those beliefs give them.
Any discussion of facts is futile when directed at such people. All anyone can do is warn others about the propaganda.
When I saw the first image of described as a photograph of Holmes I speculated on what (if any) my reaction would have been if this had been a photograph attached to a set of notes on my desk.
Photographs are a poor substitute for face-to-face contact and this particular photograph is of rather poor quality (too much harsh contrast).
However, such as it is, this first face (image on left) displayed some features which remind me of someone who has either been subjected to mental manipulation (‘brainwashing&rsquo, or was under the influence of drugs. The detached stare, in which the eyes, although looking directly ahead, are not actually looking at the person taking the photograph, but almost ‘through’ them. The mouth is not smiling, rather is stretched as if ‘mimicking’ a smile. By way of comparison, I have covered half the face with part of the later facial image.
The face on the right shows thicker lips - the thinner lips in the left image could be due to the way the mouth is stretched by the ‘smile’ and with such high contrast the lips look more defined. Another explanation could be the effect of medication which emphases the difference by relaxing the mouth of the image on the right.
The nose looks different in each of the images as the nostrils of hte face on the left are dilated. This could be due, in part to the way in whoch the nostrils cab flare when we stretch the mouth - for instance, when we smile.
The eyes are noticeably different, but this could also be due to medication. I have images of patients where an individual can look very different under the influence of different forms of medication. I note that some people have remarked on (what they perceive) the difference in eye colour. However, the left hand image is, as I pointed out, one of high contrast and has less saturated colour that the more recent image on the right.
A major difference between the two images is in the area of the eye socket. The distance between the top eyelid and the eyebrow in the two images is quite marked. The image on the right where the eyes are open wide could, yet again, be due to the effects of medication (the pupils are quite dilated). Hair colour is of less relevance in that it is relatively quick and easy to change the colour of the. What appears to be similar in each image is the texture and density of the hair.
My other concerns are less to do with photographic images, but centre instead on resources, planning, expertise and confusion over what really did happen in the cinema. Where did an impoverished student obtain the funds needed for his arsenal of weapons and the items found in his apartment? From where did he learn the skills needed to set the elaborate booby traps and use the weapons he deployed? Finally, do we really know how many assassins were in the cinema? I ask this on the basis of experience with weapons. I hold both a shotgun certificate (and have done so since the age of 12) and a firearms certificate (held since the age of 14). I was raised (on a large estate) in a family of regular ‘guns’, most of whom are expert marksmen and I am suspicious as to how one man in the time he had available, could have killed and wounded as many people as have been reported.
Exactly James and he was a novice with firearms as he wanted to go to a gun club.
Something is not adding up with all of these facts and thank you for the excellent expertise of defining facial characteristics with mental instability and addressing issues which defy logic.
A reasonable and intelligent person would certainly point out these discrepancies and ask these questions. This is why I know the media is lying and that 24/7 coverage was a farce. It was a mishmash of trivia and NO facts.
This is what the media serves to the gullible public. We get what we deserve in political figures to media talking heads if we accept this bull shyte!
James the forehead is lower also one guy has a prominent adam's apple and the other one doesn't. I think they are possibly two different people.
I also posed a question to ponder ...why would one American go on a murderous rampage? No reason(s) _ to date on why. I put up the query on Al Quada making Jihadist out of caucasian Americans. That was a plan and those shows Sleeper Cell and Heartland are perfect story lines with that intent.
Again, we all need to really think, question and challenge the lies we are fed by the MSM everyday. Their inept reporting of alledged news is getting worse by the day and story! I don't want to start a conspiracy theory. I want to challenge a story which was presented and does not make any sense at all!
There are too many holes in the facts as presented by the MSM.
The money to buy the guns, armour, how he pulled it off alone, how he shot with no basic training of guns, etc. He wore the mask and never took it off while on the killing spree so how are we suppossed to know who he actually was and the eyewitness who said there were two men.
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