Ken: In other words Raymond, I question your being a man.
Ken: Have you ever thought about getting some mental help?
Consider your words of looking in a mirror, since you're so free with the ignorant name calling. I would rather have a man, like Raymond around me with a gun if a thug was going to come after us, because surely if they got the man, the woman is next! Only hopefully, if in that situation, I would be carrying too, so as not to let them attack the man in the first place, and if they did, then I have the chance at least to still protect myself or anyone with me. You are damned lucky, yes, just lucky, to still be alive to be here to condemn others for owning weapons. I don't see any sense in your reasoning, but it's your choice to not own a weapon, and if a similar incident occurs again to you, to take that fat chance of being murdered. Noone is trying to force a weapon into your hands. On the same token, you or anyone else against them, hasn't any more right to try and force them out of the hands of people who do choose to own them. If you consider it more manly, or womanly to take the chance of getting killed, maimed or possibly ending up in a wheelchair, or just kept alive by machine in some hospital bed, rather than having the chance to stop it from happening, then if you have a woman or children around, who could be murdered, raped, tortured, because you chose not to defend yourself or them, then you are surely not someone who could be counted on to protect anyone in such an event. I, and many others, are not willing to just lay down our life or our loved ones, for a criminal, because that's what you would do. Courage is great, but not mightier being unarmed when it comes to someone intent on doing another harm. Just invite a criminal in if they're trying to break into your house, ask them if they have intent of killing anyone, or raping the wife or kids, or stabbing them to death, or putting a bullet in their heads, before they go about their business. - good luck if that ever happens.
I value my life and my loved one's lives more than to wait and take the chance to see what type of harm some whacko is going to do to them, or not. You choose to take that chance. Good for you-but not for anyone with you if something were to ever happen again. They don't deserve what could happen to them because you choose not to care what could happen.
You call us cowards, and our reasoning stupid. It therefore can be said that you are cowardly for not wanting to at least protect others if the situation arose. Call your own reasoning stupid. It wasn't courage or reasoning that saved you before, as very rarely has reasoning with a criminal been a good defense. In any case, I'm NOT willing to take that chance with my life, or my loved ones.
Ken: I never got a gun and learned that I have to not let fear rule my mind and just let them do what they want but not back down in the least because that's the only thing that works in changing the direction for the better.
Tell that to the mother with a new baby who had someone breaking down her door, they knew she was aware of it, she was home alone. If she hadn't shot him when he burst in, do you know what a whacko like that would have done to her and her baby? Or, in your mind, did she not have the right to save her and her baby's life?! Or the older woman who was yelling at the idiot breaking in her door from the outside that she would shoot? Her talk and words didn't stop the lunatic. He got what he deserved, and her life was saved. It's not been just women in those situations, and the man is no less of a man for protecting himself with a weapon.
Tell that to the many innocent who have been brutally murdered, raped, throats or bodies slit, bodies riddled with bullets, set on fire, kids included. Tell them if they would have just let the criminal have his or her way, they'd be better off. It didn't happen because they didn't back down. It wouldn't have mattered to the whacko if they even had a chance to try and talk their way out of it. You have the right to not protect yourself and hope you'll always be around to talk your way out of being murdered or maimed for life in process. And we have the right to not take the chance of being murdered, or our loved ones being murdered, and all that can happen before the perp decides to wield that final blow. You deal with it how you wish Ken, we'll deal with not procrastinating. It's our right to choose not taking the chance to find out if we're going to be murdered, raped, what have you, as much as it is your right to try and take the chance to talk your way out of it possibly happening. You do that, and I hope it serves you well if such a situation arises agian.
Ken: I can understand females doing that but not males who are the ones who I totally believe are to earn female's trust and respect so they can feel secure in life and wouldn't have to have things like guns to protect and defend themselves. In other words Raymond, I question your being a man.
You're questioning Raymond on being a man??? Telling everyone they are cowards, and that his words are stupid? That he has a non functioning mind, and you think you do??? Talk about stupid reasoning Ken!- To yourself. You're the one willing to let the criminal have his way with you and anyone therefore, with you. Thanks for men like Ray!