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Hybrid engine problems? September 02, 2004 3:11 PM

Hi, I recently heard that hybrid cars have more engine trouble than traditional autos. This story was published on arespectable or (i think)...does any one have any information on this?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
My 2003 Honda Civic hybrid September 02, 2004 5:17 PM has about 43000 miles on it since December 2002. It has been to the dealer for the recommended maintenance and that is all. No problems. Well....there was a tiny problem, the shield or pan under the engine came loose at one corner. It went right back on -- no cost. I regularly drive 75-80 mph so I don't get the best mileage (42-44 or thereabouts) but can get 55 - 60 mpg if/when I try. Which ain't often, I'm happy with anything over 40 mpg at high speed.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
What about maintenance September 03, 2004 7:16 PM

after your warranty has expired? I've been wary that I might become too dependant on the dealer and not be able to shop for mechanics. I know many reputable free-lance mechanics (incuding three brothers who are all excellent), but none feel comfortable working on hybrids. And of course, dealers are notorious for charging out the wazoo. Brother Tom is ASE certified and worked for a well-known local BMW dealer for years. He quit for that very reason; unethical price-gouging because they monopolized the market on BMWs. I have been madly in love with Honda Insights since their debut, but have been reluctant to buy them for this reason ...and the curious fact that no dealers advertise them. ..Ever. What's up with that?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
Maintenance September 04, 2004 11:45 PM

>What about maintenance after your warranty has expired?< In my small town in Oklahoma, 3 of the 4 independent car parts stores have closed since January. We used to have four places to find parts, now we have one. (Plus the dealers of course.) The fact is, reliability has increased immensely in the last 15 or 20 years. And the number of vehicles that still need regular repairs has declined to the point where the parts stores can't stay in business. That is bad for them, but it speaks volumes about how good our cars now are. Maintenance isn't much of a concern for most brands. Plus, it is harder and harder for independent mechanics to keep up with the factory-supplied training and all the analysers and test boxes and special gizmos needed for each different model. This is all cars, not just hybrids. I haven't driven an Insight but it's neat looking from the outside. Should get mileage as good as advertised. I think the dealers aren't pushing them for the same reason they don't push Corvettes, those who want one know where to go and those who don't want one will not be influenced by advertising. And the fact that - in some areas at least - there is a large waiting list and the hybrids are selling above list price. As for after-warranty --- I purchased an 80,000 mile warranty when I bought the car. By then I'll probably trade it for a newer hybrid, or fuel cell car, or something. Or I may decide that the first 80k went so well, I'll gamble on that much more!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
anonymous My Honda Insight September 12, 2004 1:02 PM

Just to let you know, my Insight is a 2001 and I have 102,000 miles on it. We've been very happy with the performance to date. (I've been a little disappointed with the knowledge of our dealers service department...) I drive approximately 120 miles per day so we appreciate the 61 miles per gallon overall average that we get. (My husband has gotten up to 82 miles per gallon...). We know it is a new technology and don't know what our future problems may be but we wanted to try it out and hopefully others will follow! (We've been trying to follow up leads of a small truck hybrid but apparently in Illinois they aren't avaliable).  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
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