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Hybrids are great, but bikes are better!! February 18, 2005 2:19 PM

Hybrid cars are a very good start to put a halt to the greenhouse effect, but we have to aim to make totally non-polluting cars. But how is life in the USA for people who would like to use their bikes as transportation? Are there any good paths especially for bikes, or is all space dedicated to the Holy CAR? How could we stimulate the use of bikes in the US? It is also a good thing in the battle against obesitas, for instance.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 18, 2005 2:26 PM

I agree, we need to develop more bike network in cities... i used to bike all the time when I lived in Palo Alto because they have a great bike network... then i moved to SF and then Oakland and the hills make biking difficult for me... (I hate going up hill... can't carry my own weight!) I miss it... but I still don't own a car, i use my legs ... walking takes longer but it's worth it.I don't feel guilty.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
so I will add also: need for pedestrian-friendly cities February 18, 2005 2:29 PM

biking and walking should be encouraged... creating pedestrian-friendly cities should be a priority... unfortunately in teh US most cities have ugly large avenues that scare off all pedestrians.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Bike Lanes in NoVA February 20, 2005 5:29 AM

Hey-I was in Alexandria, VA yesterday, and I noticed that they have bike lanes to the right of all the roads. So there are two lanes for cars, one for bikes, and a sidewalk for walking, in most areas. Pretty cool. ~Michelle  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 20, 2005 10:29 PM

Good bicylce lanes are very important. We have fantastic bike and pedestrian walking lanes all over the place here in Finland. They are set away from the road, are paved and rather wide and continuously maintained - even in winter. I can cycle to work almost all year round! When I was studying at university at home in Canads they painted bike lanes into the existing roads, but hardly anyone used them because the roads weren't widened to accommodate bicycle traffic. Many people, including myself, were afraid to ride so close to the vehicle traffic. There is also one big hill where riders are told not to use the sidewalk but the regular road with car traffic. The cars are supposed to slow down and not pass any cyclists, but they do anyway. I was at the bottom of the hill waiting for a bus once and watched a cyclist fall off his bike and almost get hit by a minivan which was about to pass illegally! The minivan driver learned a lesson because he almost killed the cyclist :( Even with the good cycling paths here in Finland it can be dangerous. Me and another cyclist were in an accident at an intersection when a driver continuted to turn without looking at all to see if there were any cyclists or pedestrians in the crossing. If more people cycle we can be a stronger force against dominating vehicle drivers. Governments would spend more money on pathways and cycling would be safer for all. I was happy to find a link to one organisation in Toronto - Advocacy for Respect for Cyclists - http://www.respect.to/ Are there local organisations in your area that promote cycling?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Bicycles are great.... February 21, 2005 6:21 PM

Unless you're disabled.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
I absolutely agree. February 25, 2005 7:02 PM

For fighting obesity, air pollution, related health problems, traffic congestion, traffic fatalities, and oil dependence, and for allowing people to do more with their money by cutting down on car-related expenses, all cities must be developed to accomodate bicycle traffic. I also think that consumers should stop buying cars wherever possible in light of the automakers' lawsuit against California's global warming emissions legislation. I was really enthusiastic about buying a hybrid, but Toyota and Honda's participation in this lawsuit has renewed my cynicism about the entire automotive industry. I support those who choose hybrids over H2s and crap like that, but frankly, I've had it with cars. Any ideas on how we can make our cities friendlier to bikes and pedestrians?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Safety is Important February 26, 2005 8:29 AM

It's very important to make sure you're safe when biking and walking and jogging-and the best way to do that is with numbers. It's so easy to find other people in your communities who bike or walk or run, or who want to give it a try. Put up fliers at your local gym and rec centers, and in the commuter parking lots, and of course at bike shops and hiking shops. What an awesome way to meet other like-minded people in the neighborhood? Plan a bike ride one weekend for the whole community (call the police first to make sure there isn't anything else going on in that area), invite bike vendors to come do a raffle or something, and find out who is interested in biking nightly or weekly, or with you to work! ~Michelle  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous Less cars, less pollution, less headaches. March 11, 2005 6:05 PM

We really need to do something about the current car-centered mode of transportation in this country. We need more pedestrian paths/bicycle lanes for those of us who are physically or financially unable to drive, not to mention those people who just want to spend less time driving. Those of us who are too young, too old, too sick, disabled, or too poor to drive cars are often unable to get to many of the places that we want or need to go because of the lack of the ability to operate a motor vehicle. Mass transit in many places leaves something to be desired, Los Angeles, for example. Ironically, during the era of the electric streetcar/trolley, Los Angeles had one of the best mass transit systems in this country. That now has been replaced with sprawl and smog due to automobile addiction. Improvements in mass transit are desperately needed. Expanded routes and the revival of low polluting streetcars and trolleys. Suburban nation, a book written by Andres Duany, Elizabeth Plater-Zyberk, and Jeff Speck, details the consequences of a car-worshipping culture. Sprawl, air pollution, wildlife habitat destruction, etc.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
Bikes are better March 11, 2005 7:34 PM

but they are not serving all the same uses as hybrids...or vice versa. When the option is reasonable, for each person that definition is different, go bikes! but hybrids and alternatively fueled motor transportation (even electric) is better than normal gas guzzlers.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Yeah. March 12, 2005 5:43 PM

I guess that's why we're here, Steve. But it's very annoying to me that my local Toyota dealership has hundreds of new SUVs, but not one Prius. It just doesn't seem like it does much good to give money to a company that sells that many SUVs and sues California over environmental regulations. Carmakers suck. Who will innovate now that the Japanese have grown complacent? Hybrids may be good, but if there were some real competition in the marketplace, we'd have three-figure fuel efficiencies and nobody would even think about buying one of those H2s or any crap like that. Also, bikes should have special accommodations everywhere, since they benefit everybody in several ways, and the focus on private automobiles has really gotten in the way of that, to the detriment of the general public.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
True, carmakers suck...but be fair March 13, 2005 5:26 AM

"But it's very annoying to me that my local Toyota dealership has hundreds of new SUVs, but not one Prius." Well, in their defense they stock what sells...and, the Prius is still a backorder/sell out item so maybe they are not able to keep one for display. Not sure that's it...but. " It just doesn't seem like it does much good to give money to a company that sells that many SUVs and sues California over environmental regulations." Well, I agree their suit of Cali (funny how when companies get together for class action, GWB says it's OK) is wrong, but in fairness to Toyota: Without them, the hybrid success wouldn't have happened. How many Insights do you see on the road They spend MILLIONS on other green developments...like how to make all their plastics from sweet potato stock (YUM!) The people demand SUVs....they gotta stay in business Now, should they make more fuel efficient SUVs...sure. But peole are buying for style (DVD players, horsepower, etc) not practicality....as much as I think they should. "Hybrids may be good, but if there were some real competition in the marketplace, we'd have three-figure fuel efficiencies" Agreed, and that's why I'm founding the Alliance for Sustainable Communities - a national network of grassroots groups that can make people's voices heard and help local organizations/grassroots operations. Care to help? http://www.ascushow.org " and nobody would even think about buying one of those H2s or any crap like that. " people want size, we goota give em size AND efficiency and, no argument about the bikes  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 13, 2005 6:53 AM

Well, it seems to me that horsepower isnt even really an issue. If they could make an H2 that ran off of hybrid fuel then Im sure they'd sell a bunch, because things like the H2 are all about style, not power. There are very few people in the U.S. that use the Hummer to its full capacity.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
. March 16, 2005 12:21 PM

"But it's very annoying to me that my local Toyota dealership has hundreds of new SUVs, but not one Prius." Sorry you're having trouble finding a Prius, but have you considered the Honda Hybrids? Instead of just one, they have three to choose from. Everytime I've been by my local dealership, they have at least 5 Civic Hybrids, 2 Accord Hybrids and maybe an Insight on the lot. Try them!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Honda's March 16, 2005 12:44 PM

I have found that the Honda's don't have the same MPG that Toyota does - so I think people have to be aware of that. Honda seems to use the technology more to add power than to save gas. peace, Stacey  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
re March 17, 2005 11:00 AM

Stacey, I think that's pretty much true for the Accord Hybrids.....but I would not say the Civic Hybrids (which are just slightly less mpg than Prius) nor the Insights (which are the best mpg of any car in america).  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
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