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Time to rally for the real tuth! September 11, 2009 7:59 AM

 8 years ago today, the live's of everyone in this world changed. I look back and I can list many things that changed for me personally. May God Bless us all on this very somber day!
 
 
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I was out on YouTube last night. The amount of views on the video was posted as only 303 but yet there were already over 2,000 almost 3,000 comments. I tried to post the link to my petition on the comments and it will not post. What does that tell you?
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 December 28, 2008 3:23 AM

"It would be much better as a whole if the Bush administration allowed 9-11 by inaction rather than direct action."

Yes, then we could all turn over and go back to sleep at night.

Unfortunately, things aren't the way we WISH they were. We LIKE to think, yes, we know these guys are BAD; but, they could never be THAT bad! Just like the Germans, who didn't like Hitler particularly, but NEVER thought the Nazis had actual DEATH CAMPS for Jews and dissenters, until the liberating Allied armies FORCED THE GERMANS TO GO LOOK AT THE REALITY.

I daresay that EVERY 9/11 Truther has had that moment when we don't want to believe what we HAVE to believe, because it is right there staring us in the face!

The Germans when escorted by Allied soldiers, US and British, thru the Death Camps, fainted and vomited and had hysterics, some of them did. They had perhaps known something all along that they didn't want to admit to themselves. {What's that peculiar smell downwind from the camp?}

This is the MAIN OBSTACLE to the inescapable Truth about 9/11 being UNIVERSALLY RECOGNIZED. The difficulty, impossibility for some people, of believing that even a BAD Cheney/Bush mis-Administration, could be THAT evil. You think that, just because they're American, and you're an American, they are LESS EVIL than Hitler and the Nazis? Your German counterparts felt that exactly, also. How could they live with themselves, if they acknowledged the truth.........

It is SO OBVIOUS just to PLAIN ORDINARY COMMON SENSE, that the Twin Towers were brought down by explosives. Just look at the videos. It is OBVIOUS that building #7, which was never hit by any airplane, went down by a Controlled Demolition. You have seen videos, films of Controlled Demolitions. We all have. They are common. Controlled Demolitions, and pictures of them, are common, everyday occurrences. We have all seen pictures of buildings on fire. They look different. Use your EYES; not what the Media tells you, you are supposed to be seeing!

Once you acknowledge what your EYES are telling you, and your plain analytical critical thinking and Common Sense; it THEN becomes EVIDENT, that some kind of previous preparation had to have been made before September 11th. In fact, those who survived that day, who worked in the WTC complex, do report that there were such things as mysterious "construction noises", dust, and sudden vacations-with-pay given, just as one would expect if preparations were made in advance to blow up the buildings. Also, how did the saboteurs or bomb-planters get INTO the buildings, past all the locks, no doubt state-of-the-art high-tech locking devices, scans, etc. -- past armed guards, alarms, security cameras, protecting all the valuables and banks..... just YOU try getting into some downtown department store or bank after hours, and see what happens! Well, the answer to that, may just lie in the fact that, GEORGE W. BUSH'S YOUNGER BROTHER MARVIN BUSH, AND HIS COUSIN, WERE HEADS OF THE SECURITY COMPANY IN CHARGE OF WTC SECURITY...... all this is a matter of PUBLIC RECORD, and can be researched by anyone who cares to.........

Yes, there is no getting around it, no way, no wiggle room -- we are in the same position as the ordinary German citizens when they got their first good look at what went on inside the Concentration Camps............

It would not take "thousands" of people "in on the secret" -- just a FEW at the VERY TOP. People participating would be on what is called a "need to know" basis, and not know the FULL extent of what was planned..... for example, the guys who actually planted the explosive charges could be OFFED afterwards, what are a few more deaths anyway? If they were day laborers, nobody significant, maybe foreigners or "illegals", who would ever notice???

It has been repressed by the media; but there are HUNDREDS of accounts of EXPLOSIONS inside the buildings; heard by firefighters, engineers, building maintainance people, and others who ought to know what it is they are hearing. These accounts are both in print and on tape and on video; and are available on 9/11 Truth sites. {On one tape, explosions can be heard.} I highly recommend you go look some of these up and LISTEN.

Since when, anyway, does a building that is on fire VAPORIZE INTO NOTHING BUT FINE DUST?????? An entire huge building made out of concrete and steel and glass......???????? Jet fuel is like KEROSENE, and we had a kerosene fire in the building right next door to the one I lived in once...... and it certainly did not VAPORIZE that building!!!!!!!!!

We have seen buildings VAPORIZED INTO NOTHINGNESS at Hiroshima and Nagasaki....... and I am told that THERMITE is a very powerful explosive that has that power........ I am not an expert on explosives so go look that up yourself. If you dare to face the TRUTH!

Again, use COMMON SENSE and your PREVIOUS KNOWLEDGE of fires and explosions and airplane crashes and the Laws of Gravity and of Falling Objects you should have learned at school...... these irrefutable Laws of Physics were NOT SUSPENDED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH IN NEW YORK CITY.

This is the most UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTH Americans have ever had to face...........

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 December 25, 2008 4:47 PM

Sam, in the Bu$h Era sanity is a rare & precious thing. Cling to what you will.. but I believe Bu$h, Cheney, Rumsfeld Outsourced the details of the PNAC plan.. the jets were real (at least in NY & PA.) & were the Trigger for preset explosives. NO Other High Rises have EVER Collapsed from being hit by planes or even intense fires after Just a couple of hours!!!! IT'S Insane to Believe it is Possible on this one, Special Occassion to have 2 within minutes & a third (WTC7) brought down several hours later WITHOUT months of preplanning! 

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Really? You believe that? December 24, 2008 2:34 PM

Hey, I'm not saying that there was not a conspiracy involving 9-11. But there is a big difference between a government that willingly allowed it to happen & government that went out of its way to cause it. They are guilty either way, but to believe that it wasn't jets or jet fuel that downed the towers is totally insane. It would be much better as a whole if the Bush administration allowed 9-11 by inaction rather than direct action.

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More Pentagon attack links October 23, 2007 10:44 PM

This has graphics and photo analysis :
The Pentagon Attack:
What the Physical Evidence Shows
by Jim Hoffman http://www.911research.com/essays/pentagon/index.html  [ send green star]
 
Sorry, Plane View was obscured, and the weakest argument October 23, 2007 10:35 PM

I won't get into it here, because I was once convinced by the evidence presented as well, as were many. But upon researching ALL the 9/11 facts I can find (for an excel spreadsheet), I read a very thoroughly researched and documented article by Jim Hoffman at 911research.com. Before discussing or arguing any of the points made it the movie, it would provide for a better discussion if you first read the article: http://www.911research.com/essays/pentagontrap.html
Hoffman, a 9/11 truther himself, makes a strong case, concluding
"The logical fallacies, misrepresentations of evidence, and propagandistic style of In Plane Site contrast with a far more rational approach by other videos, websites, and books by 9/11 skeptics that use physical evidence to refute elements of the official story. Yet the no-757-crash videos have enjoyed a wider exposure than the other far more credible efforts."
He goes on to show how that one film has essentially been the weakest link of 9/11 Truth claims, and it has largely been used to successfully discredit the entire movement and distract from much more substantive and convincing findings.
I still have unanswered questions about the Pentagon crash, such as how the maneuvers were performed --since even the pilot from Top Gun-- says he couldn't have flown them; and, what happened to the titanium alloy engines on each wing? Nevertheless, I believe Hoffman does an excellent job of axplaining many of the weaknesses in the argument and the reasons why we should not be arguing that a jetliner was not involved.
Finally, a few choice excerpts: "
On October 7, The Washington Post published Conspiracy Theories Flourish on the Internet, which describes the no-jetliner theory and its popularization in some detail, and then uses it to deride 9/11 "conspiracy theories." The article makes no mention of other areas of research by skeptics of the official story. Instead, it implies that the idea that "something other than a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon" is the only proposition advanced by skeptics to challenge the official story."
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The Pentagon August 05, 2007 4:51 PM

Just to toot my own horn a bit
I was one of the first researchers looking into the Pentagon
I have dont a LOT of work on the actual traectory and what might have hit the building.
I actually dont think it was a missile (or a plane)
It may have ust been bombs planted there
along with the fake debris

If anyones interested here are the main pages
 proving there was no plane
Main Pentagon analysis and theories


Pentagon 9/11 theories and analysis

Pentagon exit hole analysis - Punch out
Pentagon Attack Fire
Light posts at the Pentagon
9/11 Pentagon debris missile? or contractors trailer
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Jessica July 27, 2007 5:56 AM

There are of course NO documents available to us that will PROVE Bush planned 9/11.

But, I think what you may be thinking of, are the DOWNING STREET meetings Bush had with Prime Minister Tony Blair, that PROVED the invasion of Iraq was PLANNED BEFORE 9/11. The DOWNING STREET MEMOS.

9/11 was of course the EXCUSE for the illegal Iraq INVASION.

So, that gives Bush the MOTIVE..............

Just google it. There is also a Downing Street website..........

I hope this is what you were looking for. It is an eye-opener, anyway.

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Wondering? July 26, 2007 8:24 PM

Have any of you seen the site 911hoax.com? I run across it yesterday and it has alot of imformation on it as well. From pictures to proof of the footage being fake. One photo they have on there shows what "looks" to be a missle coming out one side of the WTC. Instead of it looking like the nose of the plane.  [ send green star]
 
what is the documentary that will verify this, it is called? April 24, 2007 7:52 PM

what and where can i find the documents that will verify that bush had planed the 9-11attackes  [ send green star]
 
 March 05, 2007 2:30 PM

It says Fox and NBC - maybe that's why Faux let it through..  [ send green star]
 
The only video of flright 93 crash? March 05, 2007 1:54 PM

I HATE to give FOX news any airtime or credit, but they are one of the networks who reported info of the crash of flight 93

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc



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9/11 Mysteries (High Quality Video) December 02, 2006 7:35 AM

I don't know if this link has been posted in this group anywhere else, but this is a must see video! 1:30:00 min. long documentary on the WTC collapse of Bldgs. 1, 2, and 7, covering everything from science fact, to CONSPIRACY THEORY!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=9%2F11+mysteries&hl=en

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 May 29, 2006 4:07 PM

Right on!  [ send green star]
 
THANKS! May 29, 2006 12:48 PM

I'm hoping everyone gets as much information out of them as I have...and will share other links they have found.  I'm also asking everyone on my list to join this group and ACTIVISTS AND DAMN PROUD OF IT....so we can all spread the word!!

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 May 29, 2006 12:28 PM

Great link Marsha!  [ send green star]
 
Sorry May 29, 2006 11:10 AM

The link to the first section of my previous response didn't come through...so here it is...please view it when you get the chance

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Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & The Selling of American Empire <http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/>"
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Another interesting video May 29, 2006 11:07 AM

There are many interesting documentaries about the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon and the WTC.  I find it harder each day to understand why people still don't believe it was a consipriacy of greed.

I have posted the following links before but I am posting again incase someone has missed them.  Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & The Selling of American Empire <http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/>"

I am a firm believer in the "9/11 Conspiracy". Look at the facts starting before Bush became president. He had a meeting with his "cronies" before he was elected. He said, at that time, that he intended to invade Iraq when the election was over. (Our Government had been paying Hussein to be in power for years but he had gotten too independent about his countries oil and we were losing control over him.) Rumsfeld told Bush that we (the American people) would not agree to a war, that it would take something catastrophic, like Pearl Harbor, to make us afraid enough in our own land to agree to a war. 1 1/2 years later the towers fell. There is a documentary that will verify this, it is called

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It is available for purchase on line and I think every American should watch it. It is truly frightening.

Keep in mind that the hijackers were paid, in part, by one of the Saudi princes and that his family (the Saudis) and the Bush's are close friends. In fact, the Saudis were visiting the Bushes the week of 9/11 and they and the Bin Laden family (who lives in NY) were the only people allowed to fly that week.

Perhaps it has more to do with Haliburton and an oil pipeline. I believe that the majority of the terrorists that attacked America were actually Saudis if my information is correct but of course they were Muslim, just the wrong country. All that desert must look the same from Capital Hill. You don't have to dig very deep to learn that there is a great financial interest by the Bush family in Saudi Arabia. The state of Texas (Under Gov. Geo. Bush) actually hosted members of the Taliban. Please do not take my word for it, Do a little research into the archives of the Texas newspapers.

For some time I believed that planes hit the WTC but now there are films and experts that are saying even that was staged,  this following link is borrowed from another group "ACTIVISTS AND DAMN PROUD OF IT!"  If you ar not a menber of this group it would be a good group to join so we can all work together.

HIGH-TECH INFO ON WHY OFFICIAL STORY WON'T WASH Thursday, 11:22 PM

[Not me, copied from a site]
[I] created a page about one of the "best" photos of flight 175, just before it hit the tower.
it seems to me, this photo is a fake.
911 photo flight 175
Ghost gun 175 is a GREAT site, looking in detail to each of flight 175's photos and videos. something strange is going on here....
http://www.gallerize.com/2005-01-11_001_MI_SG_UA175.htm

There is no proof that a plane hit the Pentagon. If a passenger plane, loaded with fuel had hit that building, there would have been far more damage and there would have been some wreckage to recover. Also, take into consideration a plane of that size, going that speed, that close to the ground... there would have been a lot of collateral damage as well...to the surrounding buildings, to the overhead power lines (there was no break in electrical services) and to the cars and people on the freeway adjacent to the Pentagon. The power of the after burners from a plane that size and that close to the ground would have literally blown cars over and broken windows for blocks around...but most people driving on that freeway had no idea what had happened.   The following link will show proof that it couldn't have been a commercial plane.  

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main   http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php  

 I am still holding out hope that more people start to ask the questions that we are.

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And now, commericial exploitation April 18, 2006 12:20 PM

one movie i'm not planning to see is this fiction about the united airlines plane that crashed. and the story about the passengers fighting with the hijackers. that's just sad. what do people think about venezuela investigating 911?   [ send green star]
 
 March 28, 2006 7:29 PM

The Plane Truth
A list of 9/11 conspiracy theories, from nuts to soup.
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anonymous  November 16, 2005 11:16 PM

There is another movie that picks apart 911 in Plane view. I think to be fair you should watch that and see how the guy for 911 in plane view manipulates the videos for his own benefit.

I am not saying 911 plane view is a bad flick but by watching the other movie it really puts a spin and credibitlity of the guy in 911 Plane View

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A few links July 01, 2005 7:47 AM

And most of the information and videos on these pages are available to be copied and distributed.

http://www.911inplanesite.com/index.html

http://www.911inplanesite.com/911action.html

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html

http://hugequestions.com/

http://erichufschmid.net/PainfulQuestionsBook.html

http://erichufschmid.net/ThePainfulDeceptionsVideo.html




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911 In Plane Veiw July 01, 2005 7:41 AM

Last night I watched the Documentary, "911 In Plane Site". It is very provocative at the least and raises some very serious questions about what happened on September 11, 2001. The questions raised about what happened to the World Trade Center are serious, but a tad ambiguos. However, the evidence that there was a cover up at the Pentigon is irrefutable. *{The comment that I wanted to make was a question that the film didn't raise. If a 757 flew low enough to hit the pentagon a near to ground level, why are all the over the road signs and light poles in the area still standing as is shown in the video clips.} While looking for a place to send a comment {* see above} to the Power Hour, I came accross the following interview where Donald Rumsfeld made a pretty interesting comment. This excerpt is from an interview posted on the DoD website. Presenter: Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld Friday, Oct. 12, 2001 Secretary Rumsfeld Interview with Parade Magazine (Interview with Lyric Wallwork Winik, Parade Magazine) Rumsfeld: There were lots of warnings. The intelligence information that we get, it sometimes runs into the hundreds of alerts or pieces of intelligence a week. One looks at the worldwide, it's thousands. And the task is to sort through it and see what you can find. And as you find things, the law enforcement officials who have the responsibility to deal with that type of thing -- the FBI at the federal level, and although it is not, it's an investigative service as opposed to a police force, it's not a federal police force, as you know. But the state and local law enforcement officials have the responsibility for dealing with those kinds of issues. They [find a lot] and any number of terrorist efforts have been dissuaded, deterred or stopped by good intelligence gathering and good preventive work. It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever t hey are, and dealing with them.  [ send green star]
 
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