"When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the morning light, for your life and strength. Give thanks for your food, and the joy of living. If you see no reason for giving thanks, the fault lies with yourself."
~Tecumseh, Shawnee Chief, 1768? 1813
Hello, my depression is chronic. I suffer from it since 1980. Alltogether I spend almost 5 years in psychiatry, another five years in protected residence for psychiatric patients and two years in shelters for the homeless because psychiatry considered me too well (or too expensive?). In 1984 after four years of intensive treatment I married my second wife. I thought I had climbed the hill. My first wife of course divorced immediately when I went ill. But Christiane L. died 2 1/2 years later. I stayed a widower for twenty years and went through hell. Now I am almost three years together with my third wife, who is also depressive. We love each other and our dog and cat, but sometimes we have the impression that nobody of the humans like us. We loose all our friends daily, that means, the people we thought they were friends. Community becomes less and less hostile. People don't care for each other anymore. And that feeds our depression. We lost most of our ideals on the road. Maybe in this group we can help each other.
I'm not depressed now, but about 25 years ago I suffered severe clinical depression. Fortunately for me, I started seeing a radical feminist psychiatrist who said there was nothing wrong with me (I had no appetite, couldn't sleep, didn't want to leave the house, and was obsessed with suicidal thoughts), that I was having a totally sane reaction to an insane world.
The doctor then went on to explain that we couldn't heal the world, so we would have to try to heal me. And while nobody ever completely recovers from reality, I can truthfully say that I haven't thought about suicide since, have a healthy appetite, sleep well, and go out whenever it feels necessary or possibly useful. And I didn't even have to take any drugs!
I really do know how lucky I am and I hope that I can empathize with others who are suffering. There really isn't any reason to live -- we do it in spite of everything to make the world a better place than it is. There is nothing wrong with the natural world, the problem is people and our destructive lifestyles. But we can learn to take pleasure in the small things that we can do and not despair of the big things that we can't. Sometimes, anyway.
I am Glad that you have Found Our Group!
I have been off Line for Computor Problems for about 2 months
I am here But Still having Problems?
I would like to Address your Comments! But I will when I fiquire
this Care2 Issuse Out?
Peace is the Word ~ Welcome ~ Catherine ~
Its not easy to talk about ones problems so openly and to a group of strangers.i found this place by accident,looking for something else.i am trying hard not to let it get on top of me,to break free of my chains and my burdens,to gain in confidence and maybe to start trusting people again ,depression for me is like the tide,has highs and lows and right now its low,hopefully a new approach,or just talking to others with similar problems and sharing information will help me overcome my fears,it immobilizes and paralyzes on all levels ......... break the cycle, is what i want to achieve,being an open and honest person with a good heart ....thank you for listening.
I'm not going to say I've had a hard life, because I live in one of the richest nations on Earth and obviously haven't.
However, I would say I've never felt right emotionally. My life got shattered when very young when my best friend's dad committed suicide in the same house as me and I never saw her again. Then basically everytime I got close to someone they got taken away, so eventually I started pushing people away if they didn't.
I've never been diagnosed anything as I have no idea how to see a psychiatrist, and every service aimed at me is essentially misunderstanding my situation. I self harmed for about six months at my lowest, when I was severely bullied, but I've built myself back up. It's just been the last... year, I've felt awful again, and there's a few built up reasons: generally due to burdens I keep secret, which really annoys my friends. Just unable to cope atm and still have NO idea how to get help, so... here I am
Welcome! Vicki ! & Roxann!
Yes I agree What We do as Activists, is such a Painfull & Heart Renching, Job!!! Though ,through Our Dedication & Hard Work!!! We Do & Will Have Success!!! Please feel Free to Share & Let Your Hearts Aches Out! That is why We are here! I can not Keep it Inside, Like a Keg of Dynamite! I still can't Lolita, the Killer Whale Out of My thoughts, I have to find a way, to do More???
~ Peace & Never Surrender ~ Catherine ~
Thank you Catherine for the invite to this much needed group. It is very hard to see the aweful photos of the cruilty done to the creatures of God. I hope to get and give comfort in this group.
After taking a somewhat long "sabbatical" from Care2 I returned early this morn,,, What a wonderful idea this Group is! I get really upset at seeing the photos of all the abused animals, etc. That was my main reason for taking my break from care2! Just couldn't handle it anymore! So they think that is a form of PTS Disorder? I think something is wrong with people that DO NOT get upset! Oh well, I have suffered from depression for as long as I can remember! Finally succumbed to antidepressants in '92 and boy oh boy! wish I had done so much earlier! I actually felt the "pieces of the puzzle" all come together once my med took effect! Anyway, I am glad to be here with ALL of you! Look forward to our group !
Welcome! We hope that this site; will be Helpful and Comforting! It is not easy to stand up for what You feel, strongly about! I know We all need an Outlet, and sometimes, just need to take a Break!
~ Peace & Light ~ Catherine ~ No Surrender!!!
I take Effexor for the depression. I also get migraines. I read that there's a link between those and depression. I've had these headaches for over 11 years.
Anyway, I hope to make friends here.
I thought I would introduce myself. I found this group thru Larrys page and thought I would come and join. I am Bi-polar 2 with schizo-affective disorder. I am on meds and they are helping to an extent. I am a fairly great and positive person for what I have gone thru in my life, but I also can be on the other end of it too. When I need be. I am a compassionate person but I have things I need to deal with. Thats why I am in therepy. So I hope I can not be so angry and such. Thank you for letting me share.
Hope we can be of some help for ya's!
I've been living with depression since I was rather young and sporadically sought treatment off and on for the past 20 years or so. I finally ended up in a situation where it became quite clear that I needed to seek help and continue with therapy/medication on a regular basis if I am to cope with and work through my depression/anxiety.
I just wanted to say hi and tell you that I'm happy to be a member of this group. I'm looking forward to reading through the threads and learning something from those here.
This is an awesome group! I hope you are better...it's so good to hear you laugh more.
I know some of these mentioned feelings relating to despair and unhappiness from all sorts of reasons, all to well.
My experience -
First and foremost, and a hard one for me to learn - it is a wonderful thing getting more connected with ones inner self, loves and needs - everything becomes clearer. Start next on the relationships with loved ones - and what a great place to start and very important too.
I think a stable self promotes more activity and energy within ones life - to be able help themselves and - to help others. Then, reach out to help others as a more readied and abled human being ready to answer questions rather need them answered.
Wishing you many blessings...
Peace love & hugs, Natalie
Welcome to our little group Echo. Your group sounds interesting, and if it is ok with you, I would like to check it out (but it will have to wait until I get back (I'll be gone for just over 3 weeks).
Again, WELCOME TO OUR GROUP!!!!
Empathy, Compassion Fatigue & Secondary Traumatic Stress
Do you hurt when others are suffering? Do you feel empathetic when someone is abused? Do you get Angry at Abusers? If you CARE, You may have some form of STSD, Secondary Traumatic Stress Disorder. This is a form of depression stemming from EMPATHY.
and Larry, who may not be saying anything, but we know he's out there somewhere!
Just a quick note letting you know that I am feelin' a bit better tonight. It might be just a bit, but it is better none-the-less (we take what we can get!).
I want you all to know that I appreciate your caring words and your support, it truly means so much to me...
I have had it said to me that the people on my "friends list" are really only a bunch of people that I don't truly know, but I do not agree. Our world has become so much smaller. And I know that, at least for the most part, I have a bunch of truly kind, big hearted people, who not only care about our enviroment, but their fellow human beings as well. And I guess that that includes me. So, thank you. You are helping to lift me up and out of dispair. For that, there are no words that can express how greatful I am.
From my heart, to yours, Melissa
It's so good to hear from you!! (but not good to know that you've been going thru such rough times).
My darlin' Mel,
I feel for you, doll. I too have that problem [prostate, incontinence, nerve damage etc.]. Call me up. I'll tell you my life story and bore you to death.........I mean bore you to sleep. [You might " wish" you were dead, or maybe, comatose.]
Whole Lotta Love,
And welcome to the new faces that have arrived since the last time I was here... ages ago...
I have been having pc problems, so, I am just going to post this here, even though I realize that it really belongs elsewhere...
About 6 months ago I stopped sleeping. Well, I sleep, but it is now about 6 hours a week. My shrink just kept giving more and more assorted kinds of sleeping pills, which did nothing. He ended up putting me on some stuff that made me worse in every way, then I have EVER been. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't think, I could not stop shaking. IT WAS THE WORST 2 WEEKS OF MY LIFE. I have since gone off EVERYTHING. No, I did not just stop taking my meds, but I started taking half doses, and then half of that, and now I am not on anything. I still am not sleeping, and I have the flu, but, I am hoping that I can get on my feet again, without the drugs that never seemed to help anyway. I hope that I am doing the right thing. But I just couldn't help but feel that these drugs WERE NOT HELPING, and was so very tired of the "well, let's try this then" mentality... been doing that for years, more than I care to count. Plus, I suffer from anxiety, and my bills are part of what I worry about... it has been costing me hundreds and hundreds of dollars a month. I am saving that money now, and hope to take some time for myself someday. I just need to get on my feet... I know I can do this... I hope I can do this... I NEED TO DO THIS. Keep me in your prayers... please? Thanks everyone. I'll try to keep in better touch... as long as I can ramble...
New member here. Been feeling real bummed, & my roomie wanted me to go with her to see Inconvenient Truth. Like salt in a wound...
Hi, i am a new member to this group, but have been fighting depression most of my life. Overcoming Despair is my middle name and my life. Take a day at a time though would love for it it just end, but God leave me here to learn the lessons of life. So i am learning. Thanks for letting me join.
to Kitsune. We are glad you are here!! And, welcome back Doris! I have been away for awhile too, but had to come back to my first Care2 group. I hope everyone is doing ok.
But then I got to thinking about how little public concern there is over so MANY things that are as bad or worse than the WTC tragedy - the African wars, the medical problems of the people who live where 'our' depleted unranium bombs fell, the dispossessed Iraquis, and on and on and on - that my countrymen, by and large, and I myslef just don't pay any attention to, don't try to help.
Finding this site was balm to that sorrow. Lot of people signed up here. Lot of caring about the rest of the world. And this group, in particular, nails the problem I was sinking into. I look forward to seeing more.
Thank you, group founders. See you around.
Thanks Ivan for the Christmas wishes!! I should wish you a Happy Boxing Day, right? I think today, the day after Christmas, is sooo relaxing, after all the running around and noise of pre-Christmas!
Hope all in our group are doing well. Let us know, ok?
We're glad you joined!! We hope that you can find some help, hope, and comfort here amongst friends.
Peace to you,
Hi Melissa! I'm doing ok these days. I'm staying home from work today to take a needed break. The people at work are just too much to handle sometimes!!
Welcome to the group LeslieKay! That is a really wonderful thing that you are doing... touching people's lives that way! It must be hard on you at times... I can't even imagine... Bless your heart, keep up the good work, and if you need a place to scream a bit, well, this is as good a place as any (you DO need to let it out sometimes, especially with the job you do). Again, welcome to our little group! If we can help in any way, please let us know!
Peace and Love to you and yours!
Yes I'm new and I know depression well. I work 24/7 with the disable and on going people that have short lifes.
Well someone has to care for those people that are forgotten by their family and love ones.
I been doing work from age of 18 and now 53.
There's good days and bad ones just holiday time for these people is the hardest.
I do my best to make it cheer full.
Cause depair and depression shorten ones life.
I would rather leave this world knowing I gave to some poor soul a little happiest then all the manmade riches of this world.
Welcome to the group! Sorry it took so long for anyone to welcome you... I think we are all going through our own little "personal trials" right now... please, post any thoughts you have... start a new thread if you'd like.... and bear with us while we "re-group".
May you always have enough... Peace and Love, Melissa
I did a search on "depression" on care2 and found this group.
THANKS FOR THE INVITE LARRY! SOMEHOW I SPACED STOPPING BY TO SAY HELLO TO EVERYONE. FORGIVE ME PLEASE. MY NICKNAME IS PEACHES. I AM JUST GETTING OFF OF THE NICOTINE PATCH. IT WORKED, BUT I AM A BIT OUT OF SORTS. IT WAS THE LAST BAD HABIT TO GO. I AM ON HOLISTIC HOMEOPATHIC TREATMENTS FOR A SEVERELY DAMAGED ADRENAL GLAND. I'M FOREVER HEALING IT SEEMS. ENOUGH ABOUT ME (FOR NOW, LOL).
I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TO KNOW ALL OF YOU. PEACE, JOY, AND GOOD HEALTH TO AND YOURS- PEACHES
I just wanted to check-in and say Hi and Thanks for the great hosting and participation. I apologize for my absence, but am hoping to spend more time here soon (after I get my Ecopalooza Green Events Calendar website launched). Keep up the good work everyone!
~Peace and Hugs, Larry
Please feel free to share with us on any of the threads, or.....start a new one!!
Maybe there's a door prize for the 100th member??
"I'll check with my supervisor....."
It's great to have everyone here!
I want to welcome all of our new members... so very glad that you have joined... I am dealing with some issues myself right now, as in weaning myself off from my anti-depressants. Any and all advise will be greatly appreciated....
I look forward to getting to know you all.
I received an invitation from Gerry. Looking to network and make friends with people and also gain some support. I have suffered life long depression and my road this year has not been easy. I had a husband that asked me to leave due to my MS and I lost a job becauase of it too. I hope to meet new people and new friends and try to remain positive but like most I suffer my up and down days.
Have a great day!
You're gonna find caring support, interesting ideas, and new friends here. I have found all three in this great group and hope that it will make your journey a little bit easier too.
Having been born with the desire to see that all despair, ignorance, bigotry and hatred end, I have been on a long journey into life and along life's trails.
It is clear that the only way despair will end is when the world realizes it took a wrong turn 12000 years ago when it adapted the way of the lion, tiger, snake, croc, etc... We must do as our spirit, heart, mind, senses and higher powers tell us, and that is to cease depending on animals as a food source.
The future of a happy human race, especially our species of human, depends on us ending the carnage.
Hi all and thanks Melissa for inviting me. Something I find uplifting is "Positive news" a free newspaper full of inspiring stories from around the world from the environmental & movements, education & youth groups, community action etc. For subscribers there is also a magazine "Living Lightly". They also have a website: www.positivenews.org.uk or in the states: www.positivenewsus.org
I also love connecting with you guys!
Love, light & peace, Geoff.
1) To work towards Peace and to Oppose War as a way of settling differences.
2) To Unite People and bring them information on World Events and what they can do to change them.
3) We work towards the END of Human and Civil Rights abuses of ALL peoples of the world.
4) We work towards the end of Animal Abuse and towards Environmental Sanity.
5) We believe that PEACE is PATRIOTIC.
Please consider joining at:
The Earth Force United Organization.
PO Box 828
Perry, Michigan 48872
Keith Varady, Founder and Host.
PS: It's free.
I don't think I suffer from clinical depression. Post-traumatic-stress-disorder is more likely. Years of emotional, verbal and physical abuse have caused me to be hyper- vigilant and at times hyper-sensitive. The only time I ever took any kind of prescribed drug (Xanax) when my father was dieing at home of cancer and I was being told by my parents that it was me killing him (by being me.. basically) and not the cancer...The feeling the drug gave me...like my brain had gone numb...did not make me feel better. After my father died in 1992 I then took care of my mother who was disabled and had Alzheimers. Blah, blah, blah...Don't want to bore or nauseate you with the details. I'll just say she was severly incontinent of bladder and bowels, refused to go to doctors and was the sort of Alzheimers patient who bit and scratched and screamed. According to the advice I received I was stuck in a Catch-22. If I wanted to force her to be seen by doctors I had to have her declared incompetent. In order for her to be declared incompetent she had to be seen by doctors. The worse she got the less I could work. She neglected her home that my father had always taken care of. I ended up declaring bankruptcy after paying for repairs and other bills she neglected with my credit cards. I was aware that, even with a will naming me as sole beneficiary, I could lose "my" home if it wasn't signed over to me before my mother went into a nursing home, I never succeeded in persuading my parents to do so...Even after an attorney explained to them about "Life Use". They both insisted that if the house was in my name I'd kick them out on the street. Instead it could now be me who ends up homeless and I just feel overwhelmed and shell-shocked...and tied by poverty...(Anyone know of a GOOD pro bono attorney in CT?) I'm an only child and...No...I didn't have a network of friends and family. I live in a rural area and there were no close by support groups...That's most of it in a nutshell. Is there a difference between depression and being depressed because your life is depressing??????
I have some different ideas on depression and anxiety and despair.
And sometimes I am attacked for what has worked for me.
I have had depression most of my life. Actually felt it worse these past 10 years. Becasue I begain to have Flash Backs.
And fought it with Meds and now without.
I do understand people believe that meds work.
They do for a while, it seems.
But for me they turned me into someone I was not.
They suppressed my Flashbacks and my GOOD MEMORIES too.
I also had so many side-effects from them I almost had a stroke.
Yes the MEDs can help, but they need to be a temporary FIX not a life long crutch.
Even our bodies get used to natural herbs too and we get into a state of mind where we are 'stable' it seems, but we do not realize anymore that we are not the same as we once were, just more
padded in the darkness...
Suppressing anything is wrong, NEGITIVE, or PAIN needs to be felt to fix. If it goes on being suppresed we start to feel it is gone.
It is not. Just hidden in the our minds.
I am not trying to change anyone's mind here, just show TOOLS.
I will only be reading positive stories here.
So if you find my posts negitive to you, then you are not ready for the information.
AND that is OK, we are all at different stages here, I am sure. I used to turn away from all healing ways but the MEDS.
Just as I choose to not read negitive stories, because I tend to get caught up in other people's hardships and they really stick with me and pull me down.
I have been told that I have high B/P and need to change my life style.
This means limiting my stress and changing other things in my life.
ONE more thing...
This is to paint a clear picture...
Some people are born with physical disablities and use a wheelchair for life, WE SOCIETY accept them...
We accept the deaf...and blind...WHEN will society accept people with Mental illnesses ? Learn that anxiety is something some people have, or depression...and like some cannot get out of a wheelchair or start seeing or hearing we cannot simply TURN THIS OFF...
There are NO pills to get people out of wheelchairs or to see or to hear...
So, I do not feel I should need to medicate my MIND...
I need to know what is going on in there and pills take it all away the good and bad.
Thanks for baring with my long introduction.
Thanks for the invite...
and I would like anyone who feels like contacting me for any information or help or just to talk with me to feel free to do so.
Peace, love and light!
Welcome Jennie! Make yourself at home....
Glad to have you here! Peace, Melissa
I want to welcome you to our group! There are some very supportive members here, and many of us are sharing your experience. So you're not alone!!! I come here often for support, a bit of sharing, and learning too. It's a good place to be!!
Welcome Arthur! Ok, I concede on the Parrot Head remark... but stunningly attractive? You DO realize that there is no points given in this group, so sucking up to one of the hosts will not give you a better grade, right? Still, I do want to thank you for accepting my invitation and in such a... well... such a.... manner (excuse me, I am still blushing).
And Larry, I am in agreement with Gerry, very interesting indeed.
Also, anyone coming to this group should take the time to read the thread "LETTER TO AN ACTIVIST, EARTH DAY 2002, by Tooker Gomberg", as it has some advise that I truly think EVERYONE who spends time on special causes should read. You gotta take care of yourself if you want to help others.
Peace and Love, Melissa
I just wanted to say Hi to our new members! I've only been around a couple of weeks, but have found some good friends already!!
Larry: Thank you for posting the magazine link.....it looks like some good info to read!
Take it easy everyone, Gerry
P.S. I'm sure as hell not the "stunningly attractive" one that invited Arthur.....but I'm glad he's with us! Hmmm.....who is that anyway????
Peace and Hugs,
P.S. The paragraphs above the pic of the magazine are not meant to be in bold type. Guess the formatting thing here is messing up...LOL
Thanks again for helping with the "hosting thing!" Much appreciated. As I mentioned in the Hope thread, I'm dealing with a health issue now which takes most of my focus in life these days, so having you here is really great, and I'm grateful indeed. I'm not even sure how much I can help until I know more about "the issue," which was the main reason I wanted to quit (delete, let fade away) the group a few months ago.
As far as knowing what to do as host, there's really not much to it and as I said before on another thread, you're already doing great. Check the group
• Go to Group Managemant Console
(which should appear also on your group homepage), for things you can do, etc. Should any flaming, or negative posts start apearing, you can delete any post you feel is unadvised, unwanted, etc. for the group. I never had to do it, it's good to know you have that in your group "tools."
My original purpose in starting this group was to have a safe place for activists to share their concerns, feelings, etc. about despair and depression, and to discuss how we as activists can work together (help each other) in overcoming despair and depression so we can be more effective activists, or just concerned individuals. But you are free to change the focus or add to the original purpose if you'd like. I never put up a billboard (that function wasn't available when I started the group), and at one time I thought it might have been a neat group activity to create a "billboard statement" together. Not even sure how that could happen. One idea would be for you to just post something (if you want) and then ask members to comment, make suggestions, etc. Or maybe it's not that important to have one? Also, you are welcome to invite a few other folks to help as co-hosts (done from the Group Managemant Console), but it's good that they know the purpose before they sign-on, in my humble opinion. If you should ever come to the place in your life where being a host is difficult, there are always good caring folks here that will help, just as you have graciously helped me. Anyway, these are just some thoughts in answer to your comments (quoted below).
I will do all I can here given my current limitations, and we can consult on things as needed, don't hestitate to ask. Thanks again Melissa, and Thanks to all the previous and new members for being here. Welcome all!
Peace and Hugs,
<<I am new to this "hosting" thing, so please bear with me. Larry (Yes, you Larry) somehow tricked me into co-hosting (Oh come on Larry, ya know ya did... he he he). And I REALLY don't know a thing about it, so any pointers or sugestions from anybody is always appreciated.>>
Welcome Gary and Warren!!! So very glad you could make it! !!!!!!
DeeDee... Welcome as well.. but what on earth are you talking about? Did I miss something? This is the welcome post... just to let us know you are here. If you are upset about something, or have an issue you would like to discuss/ get feedback from other members of the group, please start a new thread and explain what is up.
LOL.. I DID say that you could rant and rave in here... but please, make sure we know what it is that is you are ranting about. We can't put our two cents worth in, if we don't understand the subject.
Peace and Love (he he he and HOPE)
supress the feeling for whom???for the neighbors or for the co workers or for the people walking on the streets????noo...never
so called friends are just good for nuthing...they come and eat and the moment they go out theys start criticising you
that is what we do tooo......partyy...and then whole week of discussions about the flaws....hahahah
this is one example..;
Hi All. Thank you Melissa for the invitation, this looks like a very interesting, worthwhile and caring group, so apart from the fact that there are some trusted friends already here, they are three good reasons to join.
Welcome Ross(!)... one of my older friends... not that you are old... you were one of my first friends on care2 (OK Ross, just tell me to put a sock in it!) So glad you joined!
Katherine and Michelle, 2 of my newest friends... thank you for coming! Welcome and BIG HUGS to the both of ya's... awww shucks, I feel like I am throwing a party, and the people are starting to arrive!
I am new to this "hosting" thing, so please bear with me. Larry (Yes, you Larry) somehow tricked me into co-hosting (Oh come on Larry, ya know ya did... he he he). And I REALLY don't know a thing about it, so any pointers or sugestions from anybody is always appreciated.
Again, WELCOME TO OUR NEWEST MEMBERS!
Doris... (big hug!) Are they still working? Can you see them?
Peace and Love, Melissa
most into already here Is this group worth continuing? and on my profile, SCROLL DOWN, maybe make on billboard so people read with links, most people don't understand the medical terms and consequenses an d sitation, and a blog, haven't been able to keep mine (off care2) uptodate)
hugs to everyone Sushine, would like to BE IN IT
Depression means put down, push down, keep down - the attitude (of pushing down all not-optimistic, not-happy feelings) Larry describes as not emotionally healthy - to demand a constant set of feelings is alien to life. Even if the set demanded is seen as a positive set. To demand such a mind set is oppressive and narrow-minded, because at times it is only adequate to respond with sorrow, anger, fear, outrage, etc - feelings help us to know the world, to know life, ourselves, others...
When a whole culture demands a certain set of feelings, oppressing the other feelings, we get the situation we actually have got, most people are obviously depressed or hiddenly depressed and of no great help to each other in handling feelings - "Do take another Prozac, and keep quiet and pay your bills..." that will be the prescription, like...
People who try to help you by taking some of your feelings quickly and completely away should not be your teachers - if you notice that kind of tendency in some, then you can be sure they haven't been through and understood (cultural or personal) depression yet, as they still try to put that what is living in you down, and in themselves, too. Look for people who don't try to suppress feelings, but try to handle every feeling in an adequate way, because it is not at all unimportant how we take care of and express feelings. As is evident from the posts above it's a sign of maturity and openness that you can accept the existence of all kinds of feelings. Which is not at all the same as to say that one can recommend all kinds of affected acts. Everybody in your nearest circle might not be able to see the wisdom in this, and you might be attacked for showing that you feel this or that, maybe punished for feeling something, that they rather would didn't exist... But feelings are much more real than that they could be wished away...
It is however not safe to share all feelings wherever and however with whomever...
Feelings need to be recognized, by you who feel them, that's the most important point - if you also find other people who understand them, it's wonderful! - and they need to be expressed, by you who feel them, and it is a social condition that they'd be expressed in a way not to harm others. So writing a diary is one option, and really: a way of meditation, that is deeply rooted in our culture in the western tradition. Praying and talking are others. Acting is very powerful, but then again most responsible and therefore difficult. Let's say you envy someone who is in good shape. You feel uncomfortable with this feeling (an ugly feeling, as you've been taught) and you feel uncomfortable with feeling uncomfortable, too (you naturally like to be happy). You can learn about yourself by writing and talking. Both things can help to handle the feeling. But acting will best help you beyond it, but if you take the wrong actions you'll just get deeper into a mess. If you actually or verbally punch that envied person on the nose.... if you try to act as if you were a saint above such feelings... if you try to deny what you are, for example a person not physically able to be in that kind of shape at all... then you have not yet found out what the message of your feeling is, what you should learn from this and how you should act... again feelings will help you: when you feel at ease again, then you know you've found the answer, perhaps your envy directed you to realize how much people who are not at all in top shape have to contribute if you pay them attention, or perhaps you had neglected your own energy-resources, or perhaps you had to sort out what really matters in life in general and to you in your own life especially...
To learn how to handle feelings is indeed a long and winding process, and if one does move forward all the time to tasks not-yet mastered, one will make mistakes all the time, too - as such will naturally accompany the progress and personal growth all along.
And when we have embarked on this journey then we will get to know delightful paradoxes like encountering happy depressed persons, or angry people full of loving kindness, or mild and patient mothers with lively temperaments, or childishly playful very wise people who make mistakes all the time... People who enrich us if we are lucky enough to meet and learn to know them!
Love to meet you, all members of this group!
Merry Meet to Everyone!
Sorry that I didn't introduce myself before being so bold as to start a new thread... to be honest, I am not even sure how I ended up finding this group, so please bear with me.
My name is Melissa, and I am a massage therapist in Michigan's thumb area. I was born and raised Wicce/Wiccan, and as such, feel our Mother Earth's cries for help very deeply. I grew up in a home that was constantly full of activity... from the local headquarters for the Democratic Party (smack dab in the middle of Republican Territory), to a main branch of "Another Mother For Peace" (all back in the 70's... was it THAT long ago?). My mother is my role model... teaching me at an early age that each of us has a responsibility... a DUTY to try and right what we perceive as wrong, whether it be environmental issues, civil rights... well, I guess that I have a hard time keeping my mouth shut on almost any issue. I am very opinionated, but I do try very hard to look at both sides of each issue, and try to respect other's views. That said, it is sometimes very hard to stay optimistic... some of the issues I am active in are battles that seem to keep popping up (think Artic National Wildlife Refuge... how many times must we defend it before they will give up and LEAVE IT ALONE?). Along with fighting for what I believe in, I have also fought my own personal battles with depression. As with the political battles, this fight to keep myself from feeling too "down" all of the time... from slipping into a situation that makes me not want to get out of bed in the morning, is an on going fight.
I guess I should get to my point... No matter how hard it is... no matter how much it feels like the cards are stacked against us... we MUST continue to MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD. We must have HOPE. Things are changing... more and more people are waking up. Besides that, what else are we to do? Roll over and play dead? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!! So, hear is my little "pep talk" for anyone out there who is feeling like giving up.... Don't do it! Have faith! Find Peace in the knowledge that YOU are doing what YOU can! YOUR voice IS important, and when added to mine and the countless others... WE WILL BE HEARD! There is much in this world that we can do without... but we MUST HAVE HOPE. Please, keep up all of the GOOD WORK... and DON'T LET 'EM GET CHA DOWN!
Hoping all is well with each of you and all those you hold dear to your heart. May you always have enough... Peace and Love,