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1 year ago
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As requested here is a What I Am Reading Today.  Later, if you think it is an excellent ndn book you can relist it in the Favorite Ndn Book Thread.

Tasha

1 year ago
StarsButterflies

Group History  Saturday, 10:04 AM

Pictures of the books I just posted about.....

Joseph Brant, 1743-1807, Man of Two Worlds (An Iroquois Book)

Make a Beautiful Way: The Wisdom of Native American Women

American Indian Mafia: An FBI Agent's True Story about Wounded Knee, Leonard Peltier, and the American Indian Movement (AIM)

1 year ago
StarsButterflies

Group History  Sunday, 9:09 AM

Don't stop though please Rhonda! Most of these books/people I wouldn't have heard about otherwise, just been googling Joseph Brant, think I'll order that one next. I put books on my Amazon wishlist so I don't forget them, then order in batches, a lot of then I have imported from over there via Amazon/alibiris as you can't always get them here

I just started a book Cheyenne Memories by John Stands In Timber and Margot Liberty, has anyone read this one?

1 year ago

Sorry Frances, I haven't read that one. 

Tasha

1 year ago

Francis, I haven't heard of that one either.

I've just started my next read. It's an old one.

'Custer Died For Your Sins: An Indian Manifesto (Civilization of the American Indian'  by Vine Deloria, Jr.


(since I'm at work.... no pic of book)

1 year ago

I've heard of that one but haven't read it Rhonda.

I hope this works -'Cheyenne Memories'  http://www.amazon.com/Cheyenne-Memories-John-Stands-Timber/dp/0300073003

1 year ago

Custer Died For Your Sins was a great one. . . an old one but still good.

Tasha

1 year ago

I finished 'Custer Died For Your Sins'. Chapter four, which was about humor, had me rolling on the floor laughing... well... rolling on the bed laughing since I do my reading just before my visit to the dream world... lol lol

 

The book I'm reading on now is 'God Is Red: A Native View of Religion'. I believe it's the second book that Vine Deloria Jr. wrote.

 

 

 

1 year ago

I have a couple of books going now.   One is by Luther Standing Bear and the other was compiled by Wesley and Charleen Samuels.

 

Land of the Spotted Eagle, New Edition

 

When Standing Bear returned to the Pine Ridge Sioux Reservation after sixteen years' absence, his dismay at the condition of his people may well have served as a catalyst for the writing of this book, first published in 1933. In addition to describing the customs, manners, and traditions of the Teton Sioux, Standing Bear also offered general comments about the importance of Native cultures and values and the status of Indian peoples in American society. With the assistance of Melvin R. Gilmore, curator of ethnology at the University of Michigan, and Warcaziwin, Standing Bear’s niece and secretary, Standing Bear sought to tell the white man “just how” they “lived as Lakotans.”

Land of the Spotted Eagle is generously interspersed with personal reminiscences and anecdotes, including chapters on child rearing, social and political organization, family, religion, and manhood. Standing Bear's views on Indian affairs and his suggestions for the improvement of white-Indian relations are presented in the two closing chapters.

 

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Life And Times of the Choctaw Original Enrollees

 

I couldn't get a picture of this book to copy so I included the link to the bookstore that carries this book. This is an expensive book, but it is huge: 8 1/2 x 11 and 1 1/2" thick. This book contains a lot of genealogy and is fully supported by the staff of BISHINIK (official publication of the choctaw Nation of Oklahoma). I'm really enjoying this book and the REAL family stories that are contained within. I've even found some of my family surnames mentioned already and I've just skimmed the surface.

 

 

 
 http://www.choctawschool.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=24

 

 

Life and Times of the Choctaw Original EnrolleesChoctaw Books
History and Cultural Stories told by the enrollees or their children and grandchildren as it was passed down to them. These stories are very happy, heart warming, sad, and spiritual. copyright 1997 hardcover, pages 407 8-1/2" wide x 11 inch tall.

 

Btw, I'm giving up one of my priced links. The Choctaw Nation of OK has a bookstore and that link takes you into the bookstore which is quite hidden on their website. I think from the main Choctaw web site that the bookstore shows up under language. This is my source for books about my Choctaw ancestors.

1 year ago

I am a couple of chapters into 'In he Spirit Of Crazy Horse' kindly loaned by Tasha. Really enjoying it.

1 year ago

Glad you like it Frannie.


Tasha

1 year ago

I started this one last night so..... 

Here's to the Choctaw hostie....... 

 

How Choctaws Invented Civilization and Why Choctaws Will Conquer the World

 

Will "poisoned" Indians conquer the United States in the twenty-first century? Is there anything that can be done to stop them? Can the United States's oldest and most loyal Indian military ally, the Choctaws, stop them? Or do Choctaws pose the most difficult problem of all?

In this provocative and incendiary book, D. L. Birchfield bluntly points out what few are willing to say: America's population superiority is now meaningless; its population density is a crippling liability; and the United States has a dangerous "Indian problem."

If you don't know about the American betrayal of the Choctaws, or whether Choctaws are still loyal to the United States, or why the third largest Indian nation in North America is virtually unknown to Americans, sit back and hold on as Birchfield pulls back the curtain to reveal a startling future, with an irreverence and disdain for convention that is anything but subtle.

About the Author
D. L. Birchfield is a member of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma and a graduate of the University of Oklahoma College of Law. He has taught Indian studies at Cornell University and the University of New Mexico. He currently teaches Indian law at the University of Lethbridge, Alberta. He was general editor of the Encyclopedia of North American Indians, a founding member of the board of directors of Wordcraft Circle of Native Writers and Storytellers, and currently serves on the board of directors of Western Writers of America. 

1 year ago

Um. Let me just state here and now that I have no intention of overthrowing the US Government.

1 year ago

Huh. The only customer review of this book on Amazon whined that Birchfield is a raving atheist but says that if you can ignore that flaw it's a good book. So how is it really, Rhonda? I will have to check my library and see if they'll order it for me!

1 year ago

You know, I've noticed a lot of people are getting called 'atheist' or 'pagan'  and a whole slew of other related labels these days. Especially when it comes to our constitutional 'rights' and 'freedoms' AND you don't follow what is considered 'normal' patterns. Whatever the heck 'normal' is???? (not pointing a finger at a hostie that has related teacher problems... lol lol lol ... but she's probably labeled raving atheist too, among other things... hehehehe)

 

I haven't made up my mind about the book yet. I'm only in the second chapter. He does indeed have a different way of writing to what you 'normally' find in books.... lol lol  So far his points are valid and I keep thinking... dang, is that why have have some of those traits?  My Choctaw bits are showing through?... lol lol

 

 

1 year ago

What? Who? ME? Not normal?  Are you crazy? 


Tasha

1 year ago

Until very recently, I wasn't aware I was required to RAVE for a certain numbers of hours per week or lose my membership in the union. I better get to it!

1 year ago

If Tasha's not normal then the rest of us are in BIG trouble.

I am still reading 'In The Spirit Of Crazy Horse' and really enjoying it.

1 year ago

oooh, Rhonda! My aunt says she has the crazy Choctaw book and will bring it to me when she comes out for Christmas! How are you liking it? Should I be anticipating or not?

1 year ago

Yes, I'm enjoying the book. He has an very interesting way of making his points. It's funny and presents some history in a different light.. some of which is new to me.  I'm on chapter 4 and I haven't seen anything yet that tells me he is an atheist. Raving? Yes. Atheist? No. Sarcastic? You bet....  

 

What did your aunt think?

 

Here's a few things from the chapter 'The Howling Pain of Poison' in the book:

 

' The American imperialists have sought that objective by attempting to instill into the Choctaws a mental image of themselves as the happy sidekicks of the white people, by sapping their minds with a wide and weird variety of mental reorientation techneques that might be called Kemo Sabe chemotherapy treatments.

   It seems that virtually all of the Choctaws have now been extensively mentally rearranged, if not reoriented, by their minds having been so thoroughly irradiated that way, but the results haven't been exactly what was anticipated.

  The white eople doing the irradiating haven't exactly been rocket scientists, and the range of the weirdness of the exeriments that they have performed on the Choctaws has been so ixtensive that is has never been fully catalogued.

  What has been rather fully catalogued, however, for all the world to see, is that the intensively irradiated, Kemo Sabe-chemotherapied Choctaw people have apparently been entirely mutated into a species of people unlike any other the world has ever known, with a lot of them having gone through life spastically sidekicking out of sync with nearly everything, in an amiazing varitety of ways....

  The range of the experimental things that have been done to the Choctaw people has far surpassed the range of the medical experimentation that the Nazis engaged in during World War II.........

  That funny thing that has happened to their fellow Choctaws has fueled a rage in many Choctaws, deep down in many Choctaws, that is another kind of howling pain of poision.

 It is coming.

 Can you see it coming?

 That howling part is coming.

  And so is that pain.

  Ask not for whom that howling pain is coming.

 Ask not what that pain can do for you, ask what you can do for that pain.

 That pain will lvne in history as a day of infamy.

  Never in the history of human endeavor have so many felt they owed so little to so few who have known so much pain.

  That backstabbing pain has but a little way to fly, and lo, the pain is on the wing.

  That pain will not be a crook.

  That pain will not have sexual relations with that woman.

  That pain will not say tear down that wall.

  That pain will not stumble down the stairs.

  That pain will not say "no new taxes".

  That pain will not sell peanuts.

  That pain will not be a haberdasher.

  That pain will not fiddle while Rome burns.

  That pain will not think therefore it is.

  That pain will not see, nor will it accept, the nominations of the party.

  That pain will be the end of all of that, and the end of all that ever was like that.

  That howling pain of poison is coming to a theater near you.

  That howling pain will not be the pause that refreshes.

  That howling pain will most likely be a little bitty dab of African hemorrhagic fever, or anthrax, or bubonic plague, or hantavirus, or smallpox, or, much more likely, some as yet unknown and untreatable cousin of something similar to those sors of howling painful things, by my carefully calculated odds of 117 to 13, rounded off to whole numbers, after much thought and careful study."

 

 

Here is the name of another chapter in the book....

   'A Ticky-Tocky Choctaw Chalk Talk'

 

 

 

1 year ago

My aunt said she thought it was fascinating. My mother says she tried to read it while visiting my aunt and nearly died of boredom (which I take to mean she tuned it out because it was too weird for her). So I will definitely give it a try although from what you're showing me, it IS weird!

1 year ago

Just finished reading 'In The Spirit Of Crazy Horse' had the chance to read it properly while I'm not working a few days(my brain didn't work for a bit) Excellent read!Thanks Tasha can't wait to start the next book.

10 months ago

I'm at work and can't do a copy of the book for this post, but I'm posting this to answer Frances' post on the other book thread.

 

I'm currently reading another Vine Deloria Jr. book. This one was co-written with Clifford Lytle. I believe it's the 3rd book he wrote, but not sure.  I'm trying to read Deloria's books in the order they were published.

 

This one is called, ' The Nations Within: The Past and Future of American Indian Sovereignty'.

10 months ago

(Oops that should have gone on 'favourite books' I lost my bearings)

Thanks Rhonda, I just added that to my Amazon wishlist so I don't forget, that looks interesting.

Fran

10 months ago

You might try the other Deloria book on this list too, 'God Is Red' if you haven't read that one yet.  I have found that I need to ready something else between Deloria book to let his writings kind of settle.  It was interesting to me that this week that while I was reading about the IRA in "The Nations Within", that the supreme court actually issued a ruling against a nation using the IRA (Indian Reorganization Act). 

10 months ago

Thanks Rhonda, I'll check that one out too. I usually read a mix of books too, otherwise my brain can't cope. I also got 'Crazy Horse, The Strange Man Of The Oglalas' from Amazon, will start that one in a few days.

10 months ago

I will finish 'The Nations Within' tonight either tonight or tomorrow. I order 3 other books yesterday (as if I needed any more). I'm not sure what I will pick up next. If my new books are in it will probably be one of them and in particular 'Spirits and Eagles'.  Next will probably be the 'Unquiet Grave'.

10 months ago

I started and finished "Spirits and Eagles". It was written for youth readers so it was an easy read. The publisher didn't do a good job with this book (I'm assuming it was the publisher). There were lots of mis-spellings and goof-ups in the printing. Maybe it was the writer that did the problems??  Either way, the book didn't appear to have been proofread before the printing took place.

Spirits & Eagles

 

 

After I finished that one, I started "The Unquiet Grave".

The Unquiet Grave : The FBI and the Struggle for the Soul of Indian Country

10 months ago

I HATE books that weren't well-edited! Not to be cheap and/or nitpicky, but when they want $25 for a hardback, I feel like SOME of that money ought to go for a quick Spellcheck.

10 months ago

BTW, I got the "The Unquiet Grave" at amazon for 4.99 and it is the hardback edition. It's a bargain book???

10 months ago

I noticed that book on Amazon, is it any good Rhonda? I'm going to start the Crazy horse one this week.

I just read a book like that Maria, it was good but a couple of annoying spelling mistakes and errors, put me off a bit.

10 months ago

'The Unquiet Grave' seems to be a book that was written with the intent of looking at both the AIM stories and the FBI stories, with regard to the events that happened on Pine Ridge Rez, and trying to tell some of the truth as the author could find it. If that makes sense?

 

The book starts with the finding of Anna Mae Aquash and the identification of her body and then moves into Wounded Knee Occupation and then into some of the shootings that were occurring. I just finished the third chapter so that's about all I can tell you. So far the book has a good flow from one event to another.



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9 months ago

I'm back to heavier reading.....  I started this one this week...

Red Earth, White Lies: Native Americans and the Myth of Scientific Fact

 

 

 

5 months ago

I finally got round to starting 'Crazy Horse, strange man of the Oglalas' by Mari Sandoz, now I can't put it down. I like the way it is written, more in a storyteller way than a normal biography. Has anyone read any of her other books? I notice she wrote quite a few.

5 months ago

I haven't read any of her stuff.

5 months ago
This is what I'm currently reading. Since I'm posting this at work, I can't get a picture of the book to copy.

http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/Singing_for_a_Spirit-A_Portrait_of_the_Dakota_Sioux/1574160486/

Singing for a Spirit:
A Portrait of the Dakota Sioux

by Vine Deloria jr.

 

Book summary

Filled with true stories, legends, and descriptions of traditional Dakota Sioux life, this book is a unique record of a people whose existence was engulfed and forever changed by the westward expansion of the United States. It is also the story of the Deloria family. Vine Deloria's grandfather, Chief Tipi Sapa (Philip Joseph Deloria) provided the detailed portrait of the Yankton band of the Dakota Nation that is the centrepiece of this book. In 1917 this great nineteenth-century leader told the story of the Yankton people to a non-Indian informant. In addition to describing spiritual beliefs, rituals, and traditions of all kinds, he recounted the stories and songs that bound the community together. Vine Deloria has expanded Tipi Sapa's stories and descriptions with material handed down in his family. In his introductory chapter, he revisits ancestral territory, telling the life stories of his grandfather and his great-grandfather Saswe (Francois des Laurier), a medicine man whose vision experience would have profound effects on his descendants. Both men played prominent roles in the religious life of the Yankton and Standing Rock Sioux. The Deloria family stories help us understand the revolutionary changes the Sioux were experiencing during this period, and they offer a sometimes wrenching contrast to Tipi Sapa's descriptions of a distinctive way of life that was already lost to the onrush of history. 

5 months ago

Like the sound of that book Rhonda,  enjoyed the other book by him, is it any good?

Halfway through the Crazyhorse book, just ordered 'Cheyenne Autumn' by same author.

4 months ago

I've enjoyed every one of his books. This one is lighter that his others and has a softer tone. My guess it's because it's about his family. His other books are more issue driven.

1 week ago

I just started reading 'The Lance and the shield' by Robert M. Utley, only a couple of chapters in, but really interesting so far.

From the library I have just picked up 'Selling Your Father's Bones' by Brian Schofield, has anyone else heard of that one? 

1 week ago

I'm not familar with either one of those books, but 'Selling Your Father's Bones' does set a bell ringing in my head so maybe I've seen that one somewhere.

 

I just finished reading this book and liked this one. It tries to dispell some of the myths about natives, in particular that natives were primative and unevolved. It covers what the societies were like before European visitors. It covers the Americas and not just the U.S. portion and it covers B.C. time up to the earlie A.D. time.

 

Amazon.com Review
1491 is not so much the story of a year, as of what that year stands for: the long-debated (and often-dismissed) question of what human civilization in the Americas was like before the Europeans crashed the party. The history books most Americans were (and still are) raised on describe the continents before Columbus as a vast, underused territory, sparsely populated by primitives whose cultures would inevitably bow before the advanced technologies of the Europeans. For decades, though, among the archaeologists, anthropologists, paleolinguists, and others whose discoveries Charles C. Mann brings together in 1491, different stories have been emerging. Among the revelations: the first Americans may not have come over the Bering land bridge around 12,000 B.C. but by boat along the Pacific coast 10 or even 20 thousand years earlier; the Americas were a far more urban, more populated, and more technologically advanced region than generally assumed; and the Indians, rather than living in static harmony with nature, radically engineered the landscape across the continents, to the point that even "timeless" natural features like the Amazon rainforest can be seen as products of human intervention.

Mann is well aware that much of the history he relates is necessarily speculative, the product of pot-shard interpretation and precise scientific measurements that often end up being radically revised in later decades. But the most compelling of his eye-opening revisionist stories are among the best-founded: the stories of early American-European contact. To many of those who were there, the earliest encounters felt more like a meeting of equals than one of natural domination. And those who came later and found an emptied landscape that seemed ripe for the taking, Mann argues convincingly, encountered not the natural and unchanging state of the native American, but the evidence of a sudden calamity: the ravages of what was likely the greatest epidemic in human history, the smallpox and other diseases introduced inadvertently by Europeans to a population without immunity, which swept through the Americas faster than the explorers who brought it, and left behind for their discovery a land that held only a shadow of the thriving cultures that it had sustained for centuries before. --Tom Nissley

 

1 week ago

I'm currently reading this one....

 

 

 

19 hrs ago

Those books both sound good, I have heard of Angie Debo, I have one of her books to read on Geronimo, I know she's meant to be a good author(or was.) I am really trying to hold off buying books as I have loads to read, but its not really working....

 
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