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Calling All Veterans - Dinner is on the USA!
2 years ago

2 years ago

Sweet!

2 years ago

Dinner really isn't on the USA.  It is on a few decent organizations that decided to do something nice for those that serve.

I say thanks to our veterans for their sacrifice and commitment and thanks to to those businesses that choose to honor them.

2 years ago

I think there are other freebies for vets out there today.  Does anyone know what they are?  

I agree with you, Suzanne.  I wish we could celebrate our veterans - and first responders -  with freebies everyday.  People who constantly put their lives on the line for us deserve to be honored every day.

2 years ago

Decent organisations? Aren't those pretty much the same douchebags who are threatening to lay off employees because Obama was reelected?

Meanwhile, back in reality land ...
2 years ago


Applebee's a decent organisation?
2 years ago


2 years ago

So veterans with free health care, guaranteed pensions and other perqs get to eat for free but those without enough money to eat do not?
 

2 years ago

Well, they had the decency in this particular instance to honor Veterans whether you feel it is worthy of not is on you.  I just pointed out that it wasn't the USA or it's citizens giving free dinners.  That's all.


Kind of like teachers , police and fire with life time health care, guaranteed pensions blah blah blah.....



It's all good, no?

2 years ago

The main problem with health care has not been addressed and that is cost.  No one seems to want to deal with that.

2 years ago

Well, it obviously needs to be dealt with. I don't see the Republicans doing anything about it.
 

American teachers, police and firefighters have free health care for life? That's the first I've heard about that.

So .... these veterans of which you speak, with their sacrifices and committments and such. Does this include the vets who murdered pregnant women at checkpoints, raped teenage Iraqi girls and bombed entire villages with weapons containing depleted uranium, causing untold tens of thousands of severe birth defects years later?

Those vets too?


 



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2 years ago

Government employees do not have free health care for life.That is absurd.  I don't get the republican love for the one percent job crushers while they exhibit so much hatred for ordinary working people.  Like government employees are the whole problem in the USA?  Seriously?  

2 years ago


So ... Suzanne is spreading misinformation?
 

2 years ago

Christian sometimes you are a piece of crap and the way you refer to others is just fukin stupid.  I can't speak for those you wish to discuss in such ugly terms.  Feel the way you wish to.   I don't care.


As far as misinformation, I guess it depends on which union you belong to, when you joined and what your contract terms are.   Teachers, police, fire are not federal employees.  Each state operates its own way.  Each district operates their own way in NJ.

Angelica did I say anything about them being the whole problem in the USA?  Or even them being a problem in the USA.  Seriously?  That is fukin stupid too.  Because I didn't so relax.  What is republican love any way?  Clearly it is a statement I made alone.  So wtf are you talking about?

First, I was responding to you saying the USA is giving free meals when clearly it is not.     You get upset with me and have no issue with how Christian refers to these men and women you just felt deserved the honor of a free meal and more freebies that anyone may know of.  I have a problem with Christian's nasty ass references to the military whenever he has an oppotunity to do so.  You wish to defend it by getting mad at me for something I didn't say.



Yeah that's priceless.


Checking out for the night.



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2 years ago

I think you must be experiencing post election grief.  Please understand - I do not say this sarcastically.  I felt this way when Bush got the election in 2000 and 2004.  I was inconsolable.

No, Suzanne.  I know the USA is not giving free meals.  I thought it was a catchy title to get people's attention and enough restaurant chains are giving free meals to make people want to read the thread and pass the info around to any vets they know.  

Okay.  I stand corrected on that tiny, hair-splitting point.  Do you feel better now? I did not mean to offend you.  

And yes, you do make a point of attacking Amercan workers who happen to belong to unions frequently.  I think you hate union workers. I have read your posts and I drew that conclusion over a long period of time.  

I disagree with (if that is) Christian's point that vets shouldn't get these freebies, but then I didn't read where he came right out and said that directly. So, maybe you could ask him for clarification.  I really don't care enough to do it, frankly.  I fulfilled my objective in posting the threrad to let vets know what special freebies they could get today. I'm all for it and I don't care if you or Christian are or are not.   



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2 years ago

Yeah, I see what Christian said. I didn't read it before.  I don't agree with him.  DId you think I would?

2 years ago

I think you must be experiencing post election grief.  Please understand - I do not say this sarcastically.  I felt this way when Bush got the election in 2000 and 2004.  I was inconsolable.



Angelica, that is hardly my emotion.  To me, neither of them speaks much to me.  As a matter of fact the very first post I made when coming back after being without power, heat, light, and any sense of normalcy for 11 days was to congratulate Obama supporters.  It's a shame you felt that way.  It's not healthy.




I think you hate union workers.




That is just about the most assinine statement I have read in a while.  So you must hate all corporate workers.  Does that make sense?  That statement is so fricken juvenile.  Seriously, because I have issues with the way the Union operates.  I hate all union members.  That is dumb.



Angelica one other thing you should realize is that just because I don't agree with you on many things does not mean I am offended.  I don't care enough to be offended.  You may like to believe you know me or what makes me tick.  You do not.

As far as your last statement, I don't know what you think.




2 years ago

Well, we could play that game - "I Care Less Than You" - but I don't care enough to play it!

Honestly, I was just trying to do something nice by letting the vets know what freebies were out there.  Why don't we leave it at that?

My dad was a vet ...
2 years ago

and he didn't murder pregnant women at checkpoints, rape teenage girls, or bombed entire villages with weapons containing depleted uranium ... causing untold tens of thousands of severe birth defects years later?

Coincidence?  Or just an anomaly?

2 years ago


But some did do those things. That is absolute fact. There is no way of knowing which vet did what, and when. Some are heroes, some are not. we simply do not know. The instant, overwhelming 'thank-you-for-your-service-to-our-country-here's-a-free-meal' kneejerk response is unsettling.
 
 



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2 years ago

Angelica,  I think it was great to bring it to our attention.   The rest of your analysis of me and what I think or feel is still total crap.



Christian, yes, some soldiers are fuk ups but you generally love to put that on a greater majority than is an actual majority.  I find your response to acts of kindness or appreciation of those that serve unsettling.

2 years ago


Suzanne, don't lie. If there's one thing we all know you despise, it's unions. You have spouted off about them for years, and besides that, your anti-union Teabagger affiliation gives you away. Get real.

That being said, I do agree that some unions and union members are lazy-ass fuks who should be dragged by the earlobe into the real world.
 

2 years ago

I hate individual union members.   You are so full of shyte. 

I do not like the way the unions, especially those I am familiar with and have dealt with in New Jersey operate, damn skippy.



For your information, I am affiliated with myself and speak for myself.  Yes, I attended tea party rallies two years ago.  I still receive emails from the local one I rallied with.  They still stick to home issues and home politics.  Get your fukin facts straight.

Wow, everyone here knows me so well it seems. 

So Christian, am I still spreading misinformation as you suggested above.  I haven't seen proof otherwise.

2 years ago


No, Suzanne. What's unsettling is to watch so many people snap to attention and mindlessly fawn all over anyone at all who walks in through the door who claims to be a vet. No one has any way of knowing what that person did during their service. They could be the greatest hero in the world, or they could have committed untold, egregious atrocties. Unlike you, I've been keeping track of the atrocities, and they are many. Two wars that have been going since the early 2000s has brought us a significant amount of atrocities, all of them committed by different soldiers. That's more than a "select few."
 

2 years ago


Like I said, Suzanne; Some unions and union members operate differently. Some are clueless, greedy morons, I don't deny that. I am in a union myself, and I know full well how bad they can get, and my union is fairly benign when compared with the larger, more corrupt ones. I am 50/50 on unions. I do believe they should exist, but I also know that some of them go way too far sometimes and need to get a reality check. My biggest beef with all unions is that they make it too difficult to get rid of substandard members who would have otherwise been fired in the real world.
 

2 years ago

Christian, how do you know what I keep track of or not.  I am aware of the horrors and not proud in any way by them.  I do not excuse them and am repulsed by them.   It is true you do not know who does what.  Honestly, I don't know what my brother or my nephew have done or may be doing.  I do know who they are and trust that they serve honorably.


Christian, as far as your post above relating to unions.  I feel very much the same way you just expressed it.  The SEIU and NJEA in New Jersey are big offenders as far as greed, corruption and intimidation go.  They also have no issue with keeping substandard workers.  It is not about individuals to me that has been suggested above.

2 years ago


For the record, I am not against giving vets free meals. I am just concerned about several aspects, namely, how some of those corporations were major contributors to Mitt Romney's campaign, how some of those corporations are crying poor about giving their employees health insurance when they can afford to give away free meals, and how all vets are assumed to be deserving of free meals when clearly some of them are not

I understand that most of you guys hate questioning these things because keeping it simple makes you feel so much better,  but that's the way it has to be.
 

2 years ago

For the record, I will admit I tend to side with the military more than not.  The reason for this is, more than not, I believe they serve honorably and to the best of their ability.   Those I support are the men and women who serve, not necessarily the politicians who have them do their bidding.  Of course, as in any walk of life there are good and bad individuals in the mix.


As far as one day of free meals for the military versus healthcare for every employee.  The costs are not comparative unfortunately.

2 years ago


The irony is that, by supporting the Republican party, these corporations are indirectly responsible for blocking health care reform which would see their employees covered by a state health insurance plan which would release these same corporations of their obligation to provide health care coverage.
 

2 years ago

I think our veterans are very young, typically, when they are sent overseas to fight.  One guy I know of was sent home after a few months because he couldn't remember who he was.  He didn't remember whrere he came from or what he did for a living.  He didn't remember that he had kids and a wife.  The doctors who patched him up said that the constant shelling caused his amnesia.  Constant, non-stop bombs going off for months.

The most memorable wedding photo I ever saw was printed in our paper.  It was a veteran on his wedding day.  His face had been completely blown off in the war.  

When our veterans come home, they are not yet getting the services they need to help them reintegrate back into normal life.  Many of them are suffering from severe PTSD.  So,  many never make it home to their families. A large portion (I do not have figures for this year) of male and female vets become homeless.  

I can't really speak to the abhorrent actions of some soldiers - I just know that they do not represent the majority in any way, shape, or form.  

2 years ago


I wonder if it was worth it. What exactly have they been fighting for the last ten years? What has the benefit to American society been? What is the overall cost/benefit ratio?
 

2 years ago

What have they been fighting for for the last 10 years?  I think both you and I - and many of them  would agree on that answer.  We have been in a permanent war economy since the end of WWII to keep the military industrial complex phat.  We send our sons and daughters off to war - and ultimately that is the reason.  It's the national tragedy that never ends.

2 years ago


It sure as hell isn't about "protecting our freedoms." Absolutely no one and nothing in Iraq or Afghanistan was threatening American freedoms. Only the US government has the power to do that.
 

2 years ago

So veterans with free health care, guaranteed pensions and other perqs get to eat for free but those without enough money to eat do not?


Only Veterans who served 20 or more years or were retired medically get full healthcare and pension.

The majority of veterans do not get anything except some college money and emergency medical service if needed as long as they completed their contract under honorable conditions.

There are plenty of vets out there who are needy and could use a free meal.

And ya, if you served you country in the military you should get special treatment. Veterans do not get enough special treatment.

We all get it, you do not like the military. We all also know that you are ignorant about what it really takes to keepo a nation safe on a planet where other nations want your position, your power, your resources.

So, just try and feel a little bit for the men and women who are willing to give it all up for you. And I do mean you, the Canadian. Because we also protect you whether you like it or not...

Christian opined ...
2 years ago

But some did do those things. That is absolute fact. There is no way of knowing which vet did what, and when. Some are heroes, some are not. we simply do not know. The instant, overwhelming 'thank-you-for-your-service-to-our-country-here's-a-free-meal' kneejerk response is unsettling.


Yes ... some people have acted dishonorably.  RE the "hero" aspect, as far as I'm concerned, veterans of the military (some, NOT all), deserve hero status based on the fact that they are, for the most part, doing something selfless which can cost them their lives, limbs, mental health, etc. How do you figure we should filter out the "good" ones from the "bad"?

I assume that you are wearing a poppy in honor of veterans ... is that a "knee-jerk" reaction?

How, exactly, is it "unsettling" to you?  I am genuinely curious.

Mothers are honored on Mother's Day.  Fathers on Father's day.  There's a good likelihood that some of the people who fall into those categories are also killers and rapists.

Maybe I'm missing the point entirely ...
2 years ago

Are you merely saying these things (Christian) because you really feel that way or because you are trying to instigate squabblings? 

2 years ago

<<There are plenty of vets out there who are needy and could use a free meal.>>

That is true. I'm thinking mostly of the Vietnam veterans who the US government threw away like garbage after they came home.

 

<<And I do mean you, the Canadian. Because we also protect you whether you like it or not...>>

Against what, exactly? 


 

2 years ago



<<How do you figure we should filter out the "good" ones from the "bad"?>>

I don't figure that. There is no way of knowing. I guess it's kinda like we have to help all those in society who are in need, even though some of them are scamming the system. Buck is interesting in that he is against helping those in need because of those who scam system, yet he is not against helping all vets, despite the fact that some of them are murderers and rapists. He doesn't get the correlation there. 



<<I assume that you are wearing a poppy in honor of veterans ... >>

In honour of those who died. Remembrance Day is not the same as Veterans Day.



<<Mothers are honored on Mother's Day.  Fathers on Father's day.  There's a good likelihood that some of the people who fall into those categories are also killers and rapists.>>

And some are just plain unworthy of being honoured. I never did like either of those days and don't really acknowledge them. They are just hokey Hallmark days.



 <<Are you merely saying these things (Christian) because you really feel that way or because you are trying to instigate squabblings?>>

Probably a little of both.

 

2 years ago

That is true. I'm thinking mostly of the Vietnam veterans who the US government threw away like garbage after they came home.


What about the ones that raped and murdered?

All of a sudden you care?

Do you see the backasswardness of your logic?

In one sentence you say you hate Veteran's Day because some people who raped or murdered might be honored amongst the rest but then you say this about Vietnam troops returning?

If you do not care about Veteran's day why would you care about The veterans of the Vietnam war? The way you speak about us veterans it seems like you would like to see us all thrown away like garbage because we are all suspected rapists and murderers.

Pick a side because you cannot not care and care at the same time...

2 years ago

I said I hate Veterans Day? Would you mind copying and pasting that, because I can't seem to find it anywhere.

2 years ago

So you are saying you do like Veterans day? You do not hold Veteran's Day in the same regard as Mother's day and Father's day?

Yet you tell us how you hate that people give honors and free meals to these vets because you don't really know what they might have done. So what should we do? Vett every Soldiers story before they get a free chicken fried steak?

Should we check there last pay stub to make sure they are not making too much money?

Do even see how  out of touch with reality you sound with this campaign of soldier hating you have been waging for the last 10 years?

Ya, evil people exist everywhere. You do not have to be in the Mil to hate and kill and rape. You have picked this one group because you hate the US and you hate the idea of the Military and how much we spend on it. Yet all the comforts in life you have right now are because of people like this.

Thank god our countries are not run by people with your outlook on life. We would be living very differently right now. And not in a good way "different..."

2 years ago


Have you seen a doctor or specialist about your reading disorder?
 

2 years ago

That's what I thought...

2 years ago


No, actually, you didn't think. You need to re-read the thread from the start. There's no mention anywhere about me "hating Veterans Day" or being against Veterans getting a free meal. Also, there is no Veterans Day in Canada. It's Remembrance Day, which, although you think is the same thing as Veterans Day, is not. It's not a day to honour living US veterans, though there's nothing wrong with doing that too if one wishes.
 

2 years ago

Dude, you are completely insane...

2 years ago


Dude, you are a liar with a reading comprehension problem.
 

2 years ago

Same old, Same old....

Hi Uno!   

2 years ago

"So what should we do? Vett every Soldiers story before they get a free chicken fried steak?"

Feed them something better than chicken fried steak.



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2 years ago


Buck is the same guy who claimed that if you get rid of your cable, you'll be able to afford private health insurance.
 

Howdy, Nancy!
2 years ago

2 years ago

Hey, Nancy and Uno are interrupting the argument. 



2 years ago

I love Nancy and Uno.

1 year ago

Buck is the same guy who claimed that if you get rid of your cable, you'll be able to afford private health insurance.


You call me a liar and say I have no reading comprehension, even though we all know you have made legendary blunders in comprehension, then you state this about me?

This is why I say you are insane...

1 year ago



:Uno  Nancy

1 year ago

I love you all, especially Buck. 

Nancy, what attracts you to Buck?
1 year ago


Is it his stubborn refusal to accept facts and truth, or is it his reading disorder?
 

1 year ago

So you do like the idea of Veterans Day where we honor Americans who have served in Armed Forces..?

1 year ago

Is it his stubborn refusal to accept facts and truth, or is it his reading disorder?


How many times to I have pointed out your mistakes and misinformation?

Think about it...

1 year ago

"Nancy, what attracts you to Buck?"

It is his love of chicken fried steak.  I am one of those women who likes to fix men.  Some day I hope that I can correct his eating issues. 

Just as I one day hope to banish the word Teabagger from your vocabulary. 

And I, in turn ...
1 year ago

Love Suzanne, Nancy, Mary, Angelica ... and both Christian and Buck.

It's a lovefest ... let's   ...


You may think I'm joking, but I'm not. 

1 year ago


Buckminster crowed:


<<How many times to I have pointed out your mistakes and misinformation?>>


Oh, you've pointed out what you *thought* were mistakes and misinformation, but they weren't.

You were always wrong, as usual.



Nancy admitted:

<<I am one of those women who likes to fix men.>>

Then you will have a field day with Buck. He will be a lifelong project.
 

1 year ago

Hi Mary- we must have posted about the same time before.  I had not seen your post.

Hi Uo, Angelica, Suzanne, Buck and Christian. 

Christian, I really was kidding about wanting to fix men.  And I don't think Buck is broken.

Now let's have a proper earth hug. 

1 year ago

And Mary, too!

1 year ago

OOOOH  I like chicken fried steak.

1 year ago

Ah well, maybe I will have to rethink.  OR maybe Buck can relabel this the Chichen Fried Steak thread and we can fight about it. 

1 year ago

All I'm getting from this thread, is that if you want real food, you wouldn't go to those restaurants, anyway!  lol

Everyone knows that if you want Italian, you go to the family owned restaurant, or it's not likely to be very good.  Olove Garden and Carrabba's are good, that's true, but, otherwise, you can't top the Ma & Pop shops for Italian. 

1 year ago

There's an Italian Deli here and the lady who owns it is from Italy.  When I walk in to the place, she comes around the counter to give me  hug and a kiss and make me feel like a long lost child returning home.  I love this lady.  She is an amazing cook.  Amazing.

Shane's right - but that's probably true of all ethnic restaurants.

I do think that it is nice of those big restaurants to honor vets in this way.  

1 year ago

WHo's been to any restaurant on Federal Hill in Providence?  Now there's some food!  And many a little old Italian who will give you a big hug.  Happened to me many a time. 

Yeah, much better than Olive Garden. 

1 year ago

We have a lot of little, family-owned Thai restaurants here because we have a lot of immigrants from Thailand..  Thai food is amazing.  Totally out of this world.

Nancy - Providence, Maine?  I bet those little places are great. 

1 year ago

Rhode Island. 

 

Maine?  They throwh bologna on a roll and call it an "Italian".



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1 year ago

Oh, you've pointed out what you *thought* were mistakes and misinformation, but they weren't.


LOL! Keep lying to yourself man. Me and you both know you have been dead wrong on a number of occasions.

Wow...

1 year ago

Thank you Uno, I luvs you to

ps - Never heardof  or ate a chicken fried steak.

Are chiken fried steaks Italian food?
1 year ago

Personally, for "chain food" Italian, I really like Go Roma. 

1 year ago

Never heard of Go Rama?  Must not be in FL, yet. 

Chicken fried steaks...I think that's a Southern American thing, isn't it?  With that white breakfast gravy on it a lot of times?  I'm not too big on that gravy, but by itself the steak might be good, covered in the bread crumbs like fried chicken, right? 

Angelica, I had some Thai food in Orlando, last time I was down there.  Not bad.  Very different.  I loved the decor and ambiance of the place the most though.  It was fascinating just being in there.  Can't remember the name, though, there were so many restaurants down by Universal. 

The thing with so many businesses acting like it's the end of the world 'cause they have to take care of their employees, though, that's really damn pathetic.  Wah, wah, wah.   Close your doors, then, and make room for companies that want to be in business. 

Not that I think Obamacare is good thing, but, I find it difficult to sympathize with a bunch of multi-millionaire or billionaire types that have to take a drop out of their buckets for their serfs. 

1 year ago

Chicken fried steak is a southern thing - and southerners love it.  Here's a recipe, from the queen of southern cooking, Paula Deen.

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paula-deen/chicken-fried-steak-recipe/index.html



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