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Japan's camera phone craze spreads to funerals February 16, 2006 4:40 AM


Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:48 AM GMT173

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's obsession with camera-equipped mobile phones has taken a bizarre twist, with mourners at funerals now using the devices to capture a final picture of the deceased.
"I get the sense that people no longer respect the dead. It's disturbing," a funeral director told the Mainichi Shimbun newspaper.
At one ceremony several people gathered round the coffin and took out their phones to photograph the corpse as preparations were made to begin a cremation, she was quoted as saying. "I'm sure the deceased would never want their faces photographed," she said. But others called it a form of a memento in the modern age.
"Some can't grasp 'reality' unless they take a photo and share it with others ... It comes from a desire to keep a strong bond with the deceased," social commentator Toru Takeda told the paper.

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 February 16, 2006 5:08 AM

I know, that's weird but I have relatives who do the same thing. They wanted to take pictures of my dead grandmother but my father refused to allow it. In a way, as I've gotten older, I can see why they'd want to do it but I don't care for it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 16, 2006 5:19 AM

i can understand why they do it too
but please...Why want to remember someone dead?!?!

especially when they do it with their cellphone is ridiculous, i think.

p.s. how are you doing?
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 February 16, 2006 6:43 AM

I'm doing pretty well Foxy, how about yourself?? 

I'm not sure why they would want to remember the person dead. In my case, my relatives wanted to have a picture to show the rest of the family members who couldn't make it to the service. Then another one took a flower off one of the arrangements as a remembrance. (I almost said "souvenir" then stopped myself.)

In the 1800s to early 1900s, it was common for people to take photos of their dead, especially if the dead person was a baby or child. They'd dress the child up and prop it in a chair and the local photographer would come take a picture. Sometimes the eyes would be open and sometimes not. Off topic, but speaking of morbid remembrances, the victorians would make "mourning jewelry" out of the dead's hair. They would turn the hair into brooches, watch fobs, bracelets, all woven real intricately. Look up mourning jewelry on eBay sometime. I'm sure you'll be amazed at what they could do with hair.

This makes me think of my dog. Years ago I found him dead on the side of the road in front of my house. I picked up a rock that had some of his blood on it and I put it in a ziplock bag. It's in my dresser now. I know that seems a little gruesome, but for some reason, it gave me comfort. After all, it was only blood and blood is our life essence. I also took a picture of him although my reasons were to put it in the paper and make an article about keeping your pets fenced in (i still blame myself because we let him wander the yard loose) and I wanted everyone to see what some jerk did to my dog. I don't know where the photos are now and I don't want to see them but I will always keep that rock because it has part of him stained on it.

More morbidity: I can't recall which one right now but some famous queen of centuries ago, carried her husband's heart wrapped in silk after he died. Now I draw the line at that.

But I agree that standing around the coffin with your camera phone is a bit much.

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anonymous  February 16, 2006 6:44 AM

Ya, this is strange. Especially, to have the dead person's pic on your cell phone Terri, my ex's mom, had her husband photographed, in his coffin. I think every nationality has their own strange traditions. I thought it was weird though, I don't agree with it, but to each his own, I suppose.
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 February 16, 2006 6:53 AM


Wow terri! Thanx for your post. I was about to mention how it was tradition in 1900s to take pictures of dead babies. For me it’s different to keep a flower or a rock as you say to remind you of your friend,
but the picture..ummm… too much for my mind. Plus I get this feeling when I see a dead body –relative or friend- that it’s not the person I knew anymore…the person is gone.
by the way in Greece, we don’t have such traditions today.
I have to look up what was happening in ancient Greece though


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anonymous  February 16, 2006 8:03 AM

Foxy,  I totally agree with you. I don't believe in it either. It's better to have memories of loved ones, when they are living. My ex's mom, is portuguese, and I think they have those traditions in Portugal, they are old traditions though. She is very old fashioned, so she believes in that.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 February 16, 2006 8:07 AM

we have other customs. Like breaking plates when they lift the coffin to carry it to the cemetary, or staying up the night before by the coffin mourning...


Ancient Greeks used to put coins on each eye of the deceased
so he/she could pay death to go across the other world
and they used to decorate women's tombs like their room.
They were putting in the tombs warrior's armory for men
and beauty tools for women


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 February 16, 2006 9:11 AM

This is becoming a very interesting thread! I always wondered why the coins on the eyes. I assumedit was so the eyes would remain closed but that's interesting about paying death to carry them over.

I think Brenda has a point when she says to each their own. When it comes to death so many people have such different customs and it's very easy to presume one person's tradition is another person's disrespect. I think there must be adequate leeway in there to accommodate peoples' ways.

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 February 16, 2006 9:16 AM

what can one say ! In Greece it's illegal to cremate a dead (is that the right word?)
i don't want to be buried damn it
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 February 16, 2006 9:21 AM

ok i am goin to start a new thread
with strange funeral customs.
i hope you don't find it too 'dark'
i am an info-maniac. Can't help it. Got to know

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anonymous  February 20, 2006 10:16 AM

Wow. Yes I see why they may want to do that but I for one would want pictures that I can treasure when they were still alive  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  June 20, 2008 9:19 AM

I think it's disrespectful. When my uncle died 3 years ago, my mother kept trying to get me to take a picture of him. My relatives kept telling her no. I think she just wanted to remember him. I don't know why she wanted to remember him that way. I wouldn't have done it.

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