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Indiana's Shame Teardrops for Katelynn November 22, 2005 9:37 AM

My little one is being abused by a father and his new wife . The state has overlooked and downright ignores the abuse. THis is in the face of overwhelming evidence that was never admitted in a court despite many to have it reviewed. THere were doctors reports, counselors, child advocates and even photographs of her being abused. THe CPS refused to even act on it even when her doctors and other professionals were calling on behalf of her safety. I am know threatened with jail for trying to protect her even in the face of the fact there are and have never been to my knowledge allegations of any kind of abuse against me . She was turned over to her abusive father and his wife . Her brother and I have not been allowed to see her or even speak to her in many months. I have lost my savings, my house ,and jobs trying to pay attorney and court costs trying to protect her and finally I face the real possibility of losing my freedom thus leaving her without anyone to fight this unfair system , she and her brother are trapped in, on there behalf. So, I, no we need help. I still believe there are people out there who stand up for what is right and I hope I will find you . I do this for the love of Katelynn TEARDROPS FOR KATELYNN: ""Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than live as slaves." ~Winston Churchill "Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that if we as a people last for a thousand years, people will still say, This was their finest hour!"  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Indiana's Shame the abuse of katelynn November 22, 2005 9:38 AM

Indiana's Shame the Abuse OF Katelynn: Partial Chronology Note : this DOES NOT include 500+ additional pages of evidence an attorney gave me 1996: * I separate from abuser after I am assaulted by abuser. * Little daughter returned by abuser hurt sees family doctor. * Abuser assaults me and kids while trying to abducted little daughter. * Police statements taken. * Arrest warranted issued for abuser and protection order put in place. Other court Excludes little daughter from protection order. * Abuser arrested outstanding bench warrant found in next county abuser extradited. * Minister of abusers church bails him out. * I file for divorce and temporary custody granted to me and restraining order placed Against abuser little daughter excluded from restraining order. * I request Guardian Ad Litem for little daughter. * Ad litem submits report recommends abuser visits every weekend. Judge grants 1996: * Temporary Order issued 1998: * Letter from Domestic violence counselor abuser refuses contact via phone or in Person. Court does nothing. 1999: * Little daughter crying of owie in butt from girlfriends son. * Little daughter seen by family physician, refers to sexual abuse hospital. * Little daughter is seen at sexual abuse hospital. * Little daughter returned crying abuser's girlfriend slapped in face, spanked repeatedly for pottying in pants and is jerked out of bed. Little daughter seeing child psychologist * Little daughter returned crying is hurt when abuser and girlfriend involve little daughter in domestic violence fight. Abuser and girlfriend separate. 2001: * Little daughter returned home sick, it is winter little daughter has no outerwear abuser and parents kept. Abuser?s parents refusing to return. * Little daughter crying abuser takes little daughter to abuser?s parents house calls mother dirty names, new girlfriend plays spanking game with little daughter , new girlfriend accuses brother of spying. * Little daughter crying Abuser's new girlfriend threatens little daughter not to go near mother, drags little daughter is dragged by shoulder blade across 5 people * Sitting in chairs, forced to pray on knees for being bad, threatened mother if refusal and beatings. * Little daughter crying returned by abuser , abuser and girlfriend threatens to beat her for being bad since they can't force her to pray. * Court threatens to give little daughter to abuser if little daughter doesn't?t go on visits * Little daughter threatened to be struck repeatedly by abuser if she doesn't?t tell Abuser what little daughter told mother. * I speaks to child protection services about concerns. child protection services speak Children. Says he can't help. * Abuser remarries at wedding little daughter is burned with curling iron on forearm. burn is blistering, seeping fluid and about an inch and 1/2 long. And her underwear is removed. *Abuser returns little daughter with bruising on upper arm and forearm brother sees * I speak to town police they refuse to get involved. Town police send me to adjoining town. * Police statements taken and child protective services open investigation. * Within week after child protection service talks to abuser on phone only * investigation dropped by child protection services. * Child protection worker visits my home. * Family doctor makes report to child protection agency against abuser after doctor Visit regarding abuser. * Legal services mails letter stating no funds to help. * Little daughter agitated and crying . There is red mark from kneecap to ankle. Little daughter talks about wife rubbing her butt ?feels like sawing in half? booby traps, her book of wrongs, taken to another county where wife beats her, chemicals sprayed in her eyes and more. * I report again to child protection services. Little daughter tells worker herself. * Child protection services refuses to help, says they can't get involved since it civil matter. * I go to domestic violence shelter. Advocate advises child psychologist, and keep journal. * Little daughter starts therapy with domestic violence recommended. * Little daughter returned crying brother no longer welcome for tell child protection Service worker about abuse. 2002: *Legal services mails letter stating no funds to help. * Little daughter agitated and crying . There is red mark from kneecap to ankle. Little daughter talks about wife rubbing her butt feels like sawing in half? booby traps, her book of wrongs, taken to another county where wife beats her, chemicals sprayed in her eyes and more. * I report again to child protection services. Little daughter tells worker herself. Child protection services refuses to help. *I go to domestic violence shelter. Advocate advises child psychologist, and keep journal. * Little daughter starts therapy with child psychologist referred by domestic violence safe house recommends. * Little daughter returned crying brother no longer welcome for tell child protection Service worker about abuse. * Little daughter returned crying says she is so hungry. * After abuser refuses to bring little daughter home I speak to town police. Town police refuse to get involved. * Little daughter suicidal over book of wrongs wants to die. Little daughter says she cannot fix all her wrongs little daughter is tired. * Abuser's wife tries to run me and children off road. I flee with children to safe house. * Court places Protection order against abuser's wife on behalf of me and little daughter. Ad litem compels visit on contingency abuser promises to keep wife not around little daughter. This is not complied with. ad litem doesn't believe. *Little daughter's Psychologist goes to child Protection Services with me to demand casa for little daughter since part of abuse happened in nearby county.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Indiana's Shame the abuse of katelynn November 22, 2005 9:38 AM

Indiana's Shame the Abuse OF Katelynn: Partial Chronology Note : this DOES NOT include 500+ additional pages of evidence an attorney gave me 1996: * I separate from abuser after I am assaulted by abuser. * Little daughter returned by abuser hurt sees family doctor. * Abuser assaults me and kids while trying to abducted little daughter. * Police statements taken. * Arrest warranted issued for abuser and protection order put in place. Other court Excludes little daughter from protection order. * Abuser arrested outstanding bench warrant found in next county abuser extradited. * Minister of abusers church bails him out. * I file for divorce and temporary custody granted to me and restraining order placed Against abuser little daughter excluded from restraining order. * I request Guardian Ad Litem for little daughter. * Ad litem submits report recommends abuser visits every weekend. Judge grants 1996: * Temporary Order issued 1998: * Letter from Domestic violence counselor abuser refuses contact via phone or in Person. Court does nothing. 1999: * Little daughter crying of owie in butt from girlfriends son. * Little daughter seen by family physician, refers to sexual abuse hospital. * Little daughter is seen at sexual abuse hospital. * Little daughter returned crying abuser's girlfriend slapped in face, spanked repeatedly for pottying in pants and is jerked out of bed. Little daughter seeing child psychologist * Little daughter returned crying is hurt when abuser and girlfriend involve little daughter in domestic violence fight. Abuser and girlfriend separate. 2001: * Little daughter returned home sick, it is winter little daughter has no outerwear abuser and parents kept. Abuser?s parents refusing to return. * Little daughter crying abuser takes little daughter to abuser?s parents house calls mother dirty names, new girlfriend plays spanking game with little daughter , new girlfriend accuses brother of spying. * Little daughter crying Abuser's new girlfriend threatens little daughter not to go near mother, drags little daughter is dragged by shoulder blade across 5 people * Sitting in chairs, forced to pray on knees for being bad, threatened mother if refusal and beatings. * Little daughter crying returned by abuser , abuser and girlfriend threatens to beat her for being bad since they can't force her to pray. * Court threatens to give little daughter to abuser if little daughter doesn't?t go on visits * Little daughter threatened to be struck repeatedly by abuser if she doesn't?t tell Abuser what little daughter told mother. * I speaks to child protection services about concerns. child protection services speak Children. Says he can't help. * Abuser remarries at wedding little daughter is burned with curling iron on forearm. burn is blistering, seeping fluid and about an inch and 1/2 long. And her underwear is removed. *Abuser returns little daughter with bruising on upper arm and forearm brother sees * I speak to town police they refuse to get involved. Town police send me to adjoining town. * Police statements taken and child protective services open investigation. * Within week after child protection service talks to abuser on phone only * investigation dropped by child protection services. * Child protection worker visits my home. * Family doctor makes report to child protection agency against abuser after doctor Visit regarding abuser. * Legal services mails letter stating no funds to help. * Little daughter agitated and crying . There is red mark from kneecap to ankle. Little daughter talks about wife rubbing her butt ?feels like sawing in half? booby traps, her book of wrongs, taken to another county where wife beats her, chemicals sprayed in her eyes and more. * I report again to child protection services. Little daughter tells worker herself. * Child protection services refuses to help, says they can't get involved since it civil matter. * I go to domestic violence shelter. Advocate advises child psychologist, and keep journal. * Little daughter starts therapy with domestic violence recommended. * Little daughter returned crying brother no longer welcome for tell child protection Service worker about abuse. 2002: *Legal services mails letter stating no funds to help. * Little daughter agitated and crying . There is red mark from kneecap to ankle. Little daughter talks about wife rubbing her butt feels like sawing in half? booby traps, her book of wrongs, taken to another county where wife beats her, chemicals sprayed in her eyes and more. * I report again to child protection services. Little daughter tells worker herself. Child protection services refuses to help. *I go to domestic violence shelter. Advocate advises child psychologist, and keep journal. * Little daughter starts therapy with child psychologist referred by domestic violence safe house recommends. * Little daughter returned crying brother no longer welcome for tell child protection Service worker about abuse. * Little daughter returned crying says she is so hungry. * After abuser refuses to bring little daughter home I speak to town police. Town police refuse to get involved. * Little daughter suicidal over book of wrongs wants to die. Little daughter says she cannot fix all her wrongs little daughter is tired. * Abuser's wife tries to run me and children off road. I flee with children to safe house. * Court places Protection order against abuser's wife on behalf of me and little daughter. Ad litem compels visit on contingency abuser promises to keep wife not around little daughter. This is not complied with. ad litem doesn't believe. *Little daughter's Psychologist goes to child Protection Services with me to demand casa for little daughter since part of abuse happened in nearby county.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Indiana's Shame the Abuse of Katelynn,cont. November 22, 2005 9:39 AM

Child Protection Agency refuses casa worker for little daughter and refuses to investigate. * Little daughter referred to new woman counselor. * New counselor files initial assessment . Summary notes little daughter suicidal , intensive fear of abuser and adjustment disorder stemming from abuse. Counselor places little daughter on suicide watch while in safe house. * While in safe house ad litem compels me to turn little daughter over to abuser. * Abuser promptly forces little daughter to divulge location of safe house, threatens little daughter with violence, call mother names to little daughter, picks fingernail polish off little daughters fingers with abusers fingernails, abuser tells little daughter again child protection agency on his side. * Safe house counselor promptly issues safe phone to me they are concerned for our safety. * Safe house child advocate files statement of little daughter telling advocate of abuse  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Indiana's Shame A Brother's Cries for Katelynn: November 22, 2005 9:41 AM

Indiana's Shame A Brother's Cries for Katelynn: What follows is a little of what her brother can talk about. Brother says other is to painful to talk about know and the the only other eyewitness to her abuse cries to save his baby sister: Dear Hero's, I witnessed my mother face overwhelming odds in gaining justice for my sister. Most of the law and legal officials in my area refuse to help. You see my sister is being abused by her father and his new wife. In this area everyone has played hush-hush, and my sister continue for a while. The court problem arose, when mom attempted to press charges against him. even with my sister told the CPS and police what happened nothing happened. You see my sister came back to our house with 2 bruises about the size of a quarter bruises on her arm, and she said that her step mommy got mad and picked her up off her feet. I used to think of this step father as a real father was there. I heard my precious little angel yell DADDY! He ran in there, I thought that the father did something to help his daughter. Instead he decided to comfort his wife. As the abuse went on My sister was told by her grandmother that "If you don't shut up i'll whip you". Her father even threatened her life. From this her father decided to file for custody of my sister. After a one sided court battle, in which the GAL wrote bias reports. On of the courts arguments to give her father Custody was that i reported the abuse to CPS, and the police. You see I saw this court attempt and succeed to sacrifice my sister because appearances are deceiving. Just because you look good doesn't mean you are good. Currently the only thing that can be held against me is my age.While i am currently job hunting and do have a part time job, that won't enough. The Week that my mother pressed charges that was glossed over. The court also might try to say no because of my race. In the court papers there was a ban put on me seeing my sister while she was forced into foster care. Apparently having the same mom doesn't count. Also what follows is some of what katelynn's brother saw: My moms marriage to my baby sister father was very rocky. One of the reasons they broke up was because of My older brother. He was very hard on my brother. During the marriage her father was thrown out of the house at least twice because of what happened to my brother. Her father would often punish my brother to hard. . Once to punish my brother her father took him to the backyard of our house and shot his ninja turtles with a bee-bee gun. I watched out the window of our bedroom. The second to last time her father was thrown out my mother would only let him come back until he went to counseling with my brother. One visit I went there and played Mario brothers on the nintendo there. The last time her father was thrown out was after dinner. On a different night after I ate dinner I then went to bed in my bunk bed. Yet I couldn't fall asleep. I heard Mom and her father arguing. My mom said "get your hands off me", "don't throw coffee on me", "and get out". Around this time they argued a lot so all I did was listened. I woke up the next morning and he was gone I was shocked, yet I shouldn't have been. While they were separated this time I went over to see her father at his momís house. At this time I was around 10 or 11 years old, and her father had been like a father to me. Around this time we moved to a new house and it had to be fumigated. When this happens we didn't go back into the house for the rest of the day. My mom for some reason asked if we could stay the night with her father. Being the true gentleman he was e said no, go live in your car for all I care. Then one day her father came over and attacked my mom and my family and tried to take my sister. It started by him coming over. When that happened my mom told me to go up stairs, yet natured called and i wanted to know what was going so I watched from the bathroom which wasn't far from the living room so I listened to them argue some more. The basic argument was that her father wanted to take my sister from my family and never return. One moment I looked out and the next moment I look out and her father was bending my moms arm back while my relatively new born sister was in her other arm. I don't know what came over me but I went over and tried to restrain him. If I wasn't around ten at the time I would have succeeded. Yet I didn't her father let go of my moms arm and bumped his elbow to my face. With this time my mom yelled for my 17 year old brother. At that time he ran down the stairs but her father was already waiting for him and clocked him good. While he lay on the ground stunned her father tried to hit him again. Much to his dismay my mom jumped him to prevent him from hitting my brother. He stopped and some how ended up near the door where my older sister came out of nowhere with a broom, and she got him then. Her father than took the broom away and broke than stormed out. At the time I watched stunned I couldn't believe what had just happened. I found out later from reading the papers her father went from there straight to the local police and told that he came over and attacked my family and that we wouldn't give up my sister. I went with my sister to her dad. Later after my mom called the police, first the local, no one came, then she called the county once more no one came, than she called the state and then the local police came up. They took a statement from my mom. There was talk of pressing child abuse charges yet my mom said she didn't want to have my older brother and sister, and myself testify in court. So she filed charges for attacking her. Then my sisterís father gets anger management and 2 years non reporting probation. Her father than later began dating a woman. At first I didn't care. My sister always scratched her head, so my mom went to the hospital to see what was going on.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Indiana's Shame A Brother's's Teardrops For Katelynn: November 22, 2005 9:42 AM

I am katelynn's brother. katelynn was old enough to talk. Everything revolves around when her father is seeing a woman. It just exploded than. It started with the spanking game. and went on to her coming home with a black eye. They than forgot to feed or feed very much food her on a regular basis. The only reason I know about some of this is because I was there on some of it. I was allowed until my 17th birthday when mom went to the police the first time. I haven't been to see her father sense then ironically it was in toward the end of 2001 and at the beginning of 2002. And as you can see it only got better from their. It evolved to being chased by anyone and everyone and most legal officials and psychologist trying to help her father take her. The thing is looks are deceiving. Just because you look homey doesn't't mean you are. My mom worked hard to support my family and I will always be proud of her for that. Yet I never thought it would be used against her. The thing that strikes me the most is the GAL. In all his reports he writes about everyone but kati's dad and his wife being responsible for her getting hurt while in their care. I never knew it was katelynn's responsibility for her father's wife hurting her. This is in one of the last reports by the GAL. . Pictures and doctors reports tend to argue otherwise on that. Oh!, and there is the excuse that her dad's wife is too small to hurt anyone. She is quite petit, yet unlike katelynn she is fully grown and has her full strength. Naturally I hold Katelynn's dad and his wife in low regard. I don't want to overwhelm you, but this has custody battle has grown to consume this part of my life. I won't stop until katelynn is free! . These people still have katelynn and last time they found out someone was trying to get katelynn away from her father they placed her in foster care for about two months. And they have shown a pension for going after katelynn, and while I want her safe I won't risk her safety at all! The most ironic part is when my mom was married to katelynn's's father, him and I were always together. I was about 5 or 6, and he was the father figure I never had than. And now I am one of the people he despises most. The reason mom divorced him was because he was abusive to my older brother. My mom divorced him and the first custody battle started. And we eventually reached this point. Petition that demands Justice for katelynn http://www.gopetition.com/online/5918.html  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 December 17, 2005 9:40 AM

Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard. Tim Notke  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 11, 2006 5:56 AM

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 January 21, 2006 10:59 AM

Vincent Lombardi Leaders aren't born, they are made. And they are made just like anything else, through hard work. And that's the price we'll have to pay to achieve that goal, or any goal.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 04, 2006 10:50 AM

John Albert Michener Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
True February 04, 2006 11:05 AM

Seems like a truth threre yes. There are severel kinds of people. Ones who fall down and don't get back up. Then there are those who never get back up and try again. I guess you've about said the same things about others here. Have saw and worked and felt all that and more. Hope you have someone, anywhere to be there to help you freind. You are no longer alone sister.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 11, 2006 11:37 AM

thanks dougie for your support John F. Kennedy When written in Chinese the word crisis is composed to two characters. One represents danger, and the other represents opportunity  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 11, 2006 5:17 PM

I loved JFK i still remeber the day he was shoot.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 18, 2006 12:31 PM

Henry Hazlitt A strong passion for any object will ensure success, for the desire of the end will point out the means.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 18, 2006 2:41 PM

That holds alot of truth freind. Thanks for she'a that deep lesson.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Dougie, February 21, 2006 3:24 PM

He is afraid you will not talk to him anymore but it is little katelynn's brother who post. He is antsmrch and he just is trying to make sure his little sister is not forgotten. Alot of these group understand. One lady said it was his way of keeping a flame lit for her. He is not little. He will not say much though. It is hard for him to talk. But I apprecaite and thank you for letting him light this candle for his babysitter! and thank you for encouraging him by telling him you liked them. Bless you for that. rdlght-indiana's shame teardrops for katelynn Eternal Flame Close your eyes, give me your hand, darling Do you feel my heart beating Do you understand Do you feel the same Am I only dreaming this is burning an eternal flame I believe itís meant to be, darling I watch you when you are sleeping You belong with us Do you feel the same Am I only dreaming this is burning an eternal flame Say my name, sun shines through the rain A whole life so lonely And then I wish to ease the pain I donít want to lose this feeling We are burning an eternal flame.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 21, 2006 6:54 PM

Amen  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 21, 2006 6:57 PM

Anytime you want'a talk Iam always here for ys sweetie. I might be slow somedays, but I'll be here. Your poem made my day. May you be lessed my freinds.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 21, 2006 6:59 PM

Correction. I can't spell worth two beans. Sorry I miss spelled BLESSED. Sorry about that.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Dear Dougie February 24, 2006 10:01 AM

FIRST WHO CARES ABOUT SPELLING. YOU SHOULD SEE SOME OF MY OTHER THREADS YOU WOULD THINK I COULDN'T PASS A 3RD GRADE SPELLING TEST. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU OK AND STILL KICKING. BE STRONG. I FEEL BETTER JUST HEARING SOME OF YOUR CONFIDENT THINGS YOU SAY TO ME AND ANTSMRCH. JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF YOUR OK. RDLGHT-INDIANA'S SHAME TEARDROPS FOR KATELYNN  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Dear Dougie February 24, 2006 10:01 AM

FIRST WHO CARES ABOUT SPELLING. YOU SHOULD SEE SOME OF MY OTHER THREADS YOU WOULD THINK I COULDN'T PASS A 3RD GRADE SPELLING TEST. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU OK AND STILL KICKING. BE STRONG. I FEEL BETTER JUST HEARING SOME OF YOUR CONFIDENT THINGS YOU SAY TO ME AND ANTSMRCH. JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF YOUR OK. RDLGHT-INDIANA'S SHAME TEARDROPS FOR KATELYNN  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Dear Dougie February 24, 2006 10:01 AM

FIRST WHO CARES ABOUT SPELLING. YOU SHOULD SEE SOME OF MY OTHER THREADS YOU WOULD THINK I COULDN'T PASS A 3RD GRADE SPELLING TEST. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU OK AND STILL KICKING. BE STRONG. I FEEL BETTER JUST HEARING SOME OF YOUR CONFIDENT THINGS YOU SAY TO ME AND ANTSMRCH. JUST CHECKING TO SEE IF YOUR OK. RDLGHT-INDIANA'S SHAME TEARDROPS FOR KATELYNN  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 04, 2006 12:49 PM

Pablo Picasso There are painters who transform the sun to a yellow spot, but there are others who with the help of their art and their intelligence, transform a yellow spot into the sun.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 24, 2006 3:23 PM

Walt Disney It's kind of fun to do the impossible.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous thetre are carers March 27, 2006 8:19 PM

i can strongly relate to your case. my granddaughter was molested by my ex boyfriend while i was at work. he sat in jail for over a year before they even brought him to trial.he was caught because her brother got the courage to tell a counseler at school that he had gotten beaten for walking in on them.they have had to go to counseling and have lived in hell because of this. the man is now serving a life term without poarole.i thank god every day that someone cared enough to liusten.i have joined bikers against child abuse here in flordia.they did wonders in helping my kids.hats off to you. no one wanted to listen to us as the medical report stated she was still a virgin legally.it took two other girls to come forward and tell that he had raoped them also.she was 12 at the time. the other two were 9 and 11.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
Dear Marlena, March 29, 2006 2:38 PM

I UNDERSTAND. WHAT BRAVE CHILDREN! IT IS NOT EASY EITHER! HOW PROUD YOU MUST BE OF THEM TO BE SO BRAVE AND BE SO YOUNG WOW! I KNOW IT LAST A LIFETIME IT WORRIES ME VERY MUCH. I AM GLAD YOUR GRANDCHILDREN ARE AT A COUNSELARS HOPEFULLY THEY WILL HELP THEM PLEASE REMEMBER AS WELL COUNSELARS ARE PEOPLE AND EVEN THE BEST SOMETIMES ISN'T A PERFECT FIT. WHICH IS TO JUST SAY MAKE SURE YOUR BEAUTIFULL GRANDKIDS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH WHOEVER THEY ARE TALKLING TO AND TO TOUCH BASES WITH YOUR GRANDKIDS OFTEN AND JUST TALK TO THEM IS A GOOD WAY TO SEE WHATS GOING ON WITH THEM. I AM SURE AS PROUD AS YOU ARE A GRANDMA YOU DO THAT ANYWAY. ALL MY PRAYS. RDLGHT  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 01, 2006 12:48 PM

Colin Powell There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, learning from failure.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 04, 2006 6:25 AM

Still here and still strong sister.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous update April 04, 2006 6:44 AM

my grandkids are doing great.they have put the ordeal behind them,and are now helping at the local social workers talking to younger kids of abuse.they send you their prayers to kate that someday the abuse will end. hugs to all.dougie,keep up the good work.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
Dear.... April 04, 2006 9:05 AM

Dougie, I am glad to see you I thought you were put off by our recent converstation. Marlene, You tell them I said "you guys go"! It is us the children who survived that will have some of the passion to reach back for the ones who are being hurt now! What wonderfull grandkids you have! HOw proud you must be of them! Tell them to have come through what they did and still be reaching out to help well what an extrodanary people they must be. These kind of people give me hope! I am blessed by your prayers for katelynn and I hope all these voice raised will surely be heard! Thanks Marlene. rdlght-indiana's shame teardrops for katelynn  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 04, 2006 9:38 AM

Nope Iam here for the group. Also for whatever comes with it. Glad to hear your grand kids are doing well also freind.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
HEY BUD, April 04, 2006 9:59 AM

I AM SURE YOU WEREN'T TALKING TO ME BUT IN CASE I DON'T HAVE GRANDCHILDREN YET. HAVEN'T BEEN THAT BLESSED. THAN I WILL ASK YOU AGIAN IF LITTLE KATELYNN WAS TOLD SHE WAS A BACA CHILD, IS SHE AND HER BROTHER STILL ONE? OR DOES THAT STOP IF SHE IS IN A DIFFERENT STATE? RDLGHT  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 15, 2006 1:44 PM

Richard M. Devos The only thing that stands between a man and what he wants from life is often merely the will to try it and the faith to believe that it is possible.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 15, 2006 2:01 PM

I can't answer your question sorry. Iam only a supporter in Ontario.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 22, 2006 12:58 PM

That no problem dougie. You can do only what you can do.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 May 06, 2006 7:06 AM

Robert Collier All of us have bad luck and good luck. The man who persists through the bad luck - who keeps right on going - is the man who is there when the good luck comes - and is ready to receive it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 May 20, 2006 2:58 PM

Harold Wilkins The world of achievement has always belonged to the optimist.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 August 22, 2006 5:35 AM

Ambrose Redmoon Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 16, 2006 9:05 AM

Douglas McArthur A true leader has the confidence to stand alone, the courage to make tough decisions, and the compassion to listen to the needs of others. He does not set out to be a leader, but becomes one by the equality of his actions and the integrity of his intent.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 18, 2006 5:28 AM

Where is the delete botten when you need it I ask? Please stop posting here. This has nothing to do with BIKER AGAINST CHILD ABUSE.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Dougie, B ACa is Bikers against child abuse. September 18, 2006 6:59 AM

This child is being abused and she needs help! This has not changed or I would not continue to post. I have posted on little katelynn's website 2 documented pieces out of the 1000 documents of evidence of little katelynns abuse. The others who are on little katelynn's site have seen them. That is the name of this group. I don't know why you are posting that but I will answer. This is an public group and I also am a member. This is what is important to me as does the groups name say it is important to them. I have not put up any other threads. I have not emailed other members without them emailing me first. I have not been rude nor offensive or sexually graphic nor inappropraite. I can have to pertinet people proven this to be true so I feel that these are people who would care about an abused child. Reference: : Jo W. (36) I have watched you for years as you work to bring Katelynn home and your strength and tenacity are commendable. Regardless what becomes of your hard work, one day she will know how much her cares. Jo JO President and founder Hope4kidz United Visions Of A Peaceful Journey November 16, 2005 12:31 PM I just got back from my sculpture class. I was the first one to show my project and by the time I was finished...everyone was in tears. Wow....what an impact the sculpture had! My professor has the sculpture because she is going to take pictures of it....when I get it back I will take many pictures for you that give better close ups. Three students from class even told me about their own abuse stories. *****The picture of your sweet little girl...and her bruises were the first thing seen when the box was opened. Thanks....for all your help and ******allowing me to tell your story along with all the others!!!! Founder United Visions of A Peaceful Journey http://home.earthlink.net/~marshcarr United Visions Of A Peaceful Journey Proud Volunteer Abuse Advocate! I've spoken with poster... March 01, 2005 6:35 PM I spent about an hour on the phone with her and she is the parent of Katelynn. The story is one of great injustice, abuse and fear. She fears for her daughters safety, sanity and security. Cries that she should be able to save her child after all she's the parent. Everywhere she turns she hits a wall of indifference, What to do to help? We are open to suggestions as I've sent a Detective friend to investigate and even he is stumped As to why this has happened!! Cherie T-Grassroots Activist-group moderator of Grassroots Global Activists April 23, 2005 10:23 AM 9:12 AM I have met you and seen your papers and know that you are no abuser. I also know you were found not guility at the hearing for custodial interference, my understanding is the jury did not have the power to return your child to you, which is a miscarriage of justice. Bif Guftasen Member Indiana jail4judges, Modertor& Creator Bad Indiana Justice And these are but a few. Also Refernece sites: referral sources: www.courageouskids.net (please note little katelynn and her brothers info is on the courageous kids messageboard) Mary Kay Ash Charitable Foundation :: Breaking the Silence: Children's Stories Aired on PBS http://www.mkacf.org/BreakTheSilence.html Breaking the Silence http://sev.prnewswire.com/entertainment/20051019/CLW50819102005-1.html http://www.tatgelasseur.com/pages/bts.html Battered Women, Abused Children, and Child Custody: A NATIONAL CRISIS http://www.batteredmotherscustodyconference.org/ Petition for Justice for Katelynn: http://www.gopetition.com/online/5918.html I hope BACA is as tenacious to help abused child also. Thank you for your time and attention. I am rldght-indiana's shame teardrops for katelynn  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 19, 2006 2:31 PM

Then tell me why are soooooooooooooooooooooooo many people against your postings? Over and over again I've read that all you write is not true. I for one will not stand for false truths. To many times and far to ofren I've read this and now Iam acting on what I find many say might be true. Sorry it took me so long to repsond to your posts.Indangered peoples has given you the go ahaead to post. So post there. Until I find your post to be true it's not going unnoicted anymore. Got a problem with this prove it to be truthfull and I'll be the first to state my heart felt sorry.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 19, 2006 2:32 PM

Stop posting here.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 19, 2006 2:36 PM

Funny how I have 18 Child Abuse groups and you never post in any of them. Why is that? You know I will not allow this falsehood thats why.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 20, 2006 5:25 AM

dougie what are you talking about? This abuse of katelynn is really happening. I know there have been only a few groups who thinks this is not true. It would seem that you have entered a few of them. If you would like, I can give links to gorups that support me trying to save katelynn.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Dougie, September 20, 2006 6:53 AM

First of all with the present way you are talking to me why would I prove anything to you. Ask a reasonable question in less than aggressive tone and that may elicit a appropraite response. Since you know Tina E. why don't you ask her how many people I have contacted and the responses I have recieved. Second I think a DOnna is moderator of this group and until this person request me not to post i will continue to be as much of a member as you are with the same rights as you have. I would suggest if you do not like this thread than don't click on it. Thirdly perhaps a BACA member named knightingale who has helped as much as could should be someone relevent. FOurth you are welcome to believe anything you want that does not become A moral or ethical obligation to me to justify this situation to you especially in the light of how anger and aggressive you are emailing me. May I suggest that if you want to open an open dialogue that anger is not your best approach to making someone want to talk. Fifth, I have believed you and not questioned why you claim you are on all these child abuse sites maybe it is time I ask you the same questions prove that you know a child being or having being abused? If you can't that must mean you are lying? Are you lying? Sixth untiL I am ask by the moderator and than I will respect her wishes and do as she ask whether I necessarily agree or not since this is her group to moderate. Seventh I Am not a memeber of these other groups because I have only joined groups I have been invited to and since I wasn't I didn't join. But if that is a measure of abuse being real ie being part of your or anyones child abuse group that I guess the childhelp is a lie because i don't believe your child abuse groups either. I will not argue with you! YOu are free to believe whatever you want. I will not bother your threads and than you won't have to worry about hearing from me and you stay my thread and than you will not have to endure my presence. However coming on my thread and haranging me sure looks like bullying unless of course you have some concrete proof and not hearsay and innudoe from others to prove I am lying otherwise it just looks like your picking on me something that would seem to be against the tone of what this group is for. EIghth I have been on care2connect for quite some time and if care 2 moderators thought I was lying or being deceptive they would have acted themself. That ought to tell you something. It is very dissappointing that you heard some gossip and you were just that quick to turn on someone you left emails to as " sisters". I certainly hope you are not lead astray quite so easily in your defense of abused children for that would truly be sad. Nineth: I have given references from group moderators and advocates as well as reference sites. Patricia certainly has helped as much as she could as well and that should be significant in and of itself. I did this so the moderators of this group would know my sincerety. With the recommendations and reference I have already put up isn't good enough ,from a wide spectrum of the care2connect group moderators, DOugie nothing is going to be. I will just have to rely on BACA group moderators to not be swayed by gossip and know she will see the truth and that is all. rdlght-indiana's shame teardrops for katelynn  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Please excuse me the moderator is Debaroh September 20, 2006 6:57 AM

(please forgive my nmsispelling) i will trust Debarah as the group moderator and that is good enough for me. rdlght-indiana's shame teardrops for katelynn  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 20, 2006 10:57 AM

Well I'll be right up your psot to see that your lies stop. as she has not been here to run her group since GOD KNOWS WHEN. sO PUT THAT IN YOUR Dm pipe and smoke it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 20, 2006 11:00 AM

You would do well to stand up and prove these liesa false if you want'a post here. One thing about me is I don't back down and I don't back off to lies.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 20, 2006 11:01 AM

Now you have really got me atr a point where you have got under my skin real bad.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 20, 2006 11:04 AM

Why don't you get Tina to tell me you are for real and not a false hood like everyone says you are? Man you have me just jumping 6 feet in the iar now. I have contacted Donna as well and waite'n on her repsonce about blocking you and your ione way trip to no where on her.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  September 20, 2006 7:46 PM

first off,i have talked to tina e.she wants no part of this.keep her out of it,she does not want involved.as for wether this post is true,i cannot say,as i have not witnessed it.therefore it is heresay until proven true. i have contacted the real baca here in flordia and georgia,as care2 cannot use their club name without premission from them.also it is against the law for anyone to make false accusing of abuse.therfore,i hope in all sincereity what you say isd true.but leave my name out of this as well.i know sereval of the patch holders to the real baca,.i do not want them after me.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  September 20, 2006 7:53 PM

i for one am not condemming you or saying you are falsing posting facts.all i am saying is do not drag down a terrfic club as baca.i support them,and will not stand for their name to be used unjustily.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  September 21, 2006 6:07 AM

i will be checking in here from time to time,but until i know baca gave their approval for this group,i will not post here.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 September 30, 2006 9:27 AM

If you guys do not like this thred, than why do you continue to come here. What is going on with katelynn is true. If you do not support this thread than do not come to it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Dear Anonomous, October 06, 2006 1:19 PM

Thank you for having the courage and bravery to share this part of your life. I had decided not to come back here for many reasons but I saw what you had written. Thank you. I have A Site I keep for katelynn. It started out to be just be trying to write something to her everyday in the off chance she somehow saw it She would know me and her brother had not forgotten her. Than I emailed senators, media, groups and so many others and was appalled at the apathic replies I revieved or just not bothered to answer at all or some (and these were represnetatives aides) down right rude, some said they would get back to me and I never heard from them again. I would tell others of these replies so I started saving them with the names email addresses and comments or lack and posted them. I have a special group of people as memebers of little katelynn's site and I believe they care and have been very supportive they know alot and respect what they have been able to see. Some even of the evidence. Now I tell you this because I put your post on little katelynn's site and (if by some miracle) she sees it, maybe she will not feel so alone. That is why I thank you for that and bless you. HEr brother posts on here the sayings because he is worried his little sister will be forgotten and after some of the things said after all this time I told just let it be. He does not need to be upset anymore than necessary. But I saw your reply and I wanted to thank you for your caring. rdlght  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Marlene D. , Just so you know here is October 06, 2006 1:22 PM

Tina E.'s reply to me in Stop DOmestic Violence and child abuse site under thread crisis in american family court the battered mothers custody awareness event which was posted by the moderator Barb. Rdlght O. AAhhh Tina, and the others like you trying to September 28, 2006 8:06 AM get these abused children's truth heard I know God will bless you some day! I still haven't heard from the Justice for children lady. I will give her a couple more days than email again. Thank you for that Tina. rdlght-indiana's shame teardrops for katelynn ( may god have mercy on us all) " IN Rama was a great wailling and lamentation, It was Rachel and she shall not be comforted, for her children are not..........................." [ send green star] Tina E. September 28, 2006 1:11 PM Rdlight I know she is in Florida for a couple days plus she is getting married soon as well. So yes, give her a little bit to respond. Hugs, Tina That is all I have to say. rdlght-indiana's shame teardrops for katelynn  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
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 December 26, 2006 8:58 AM

It a crying shame that BACA has been put into this BS. Did BACA adopt a child then leave them hanging out to dry, they damn sure better not have. Once a child has been adopted they stay a BACA children until they don't need us anymore. If anyone have an issue with BACA and feels they need to vent you can personally call me instead of trying to slander us in this forum..If you can't call me and tell what the real problem is then you need to keep you mouth shut. Anyone on this site who reads this can call 479-414-1676 and ask for Tree. I am the international president and would be more than happy to talk to anyone about this dicussion or any other. If you want to meet face to face that also can be arranged but lay off BACA. Tree  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Tree, December 26, 2006 10:16 AM

I have sent you an invitation to little katelynn's group per our phone call. As soon as you apply I will accept. Thank you for talking to me. rdlght-iindiana's shame teardrops for katelynn  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
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winston churchill January 20, 2007 8:42 PM

who was quoted on this site i just wanted to say was illigitamate. something this present administration and several venues would like to stop by removing the children from such homes now. thinking this might curb illigitamacy in the future. they will try anything on us, like quinny pigs?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
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