Jeanette,i really appreciate you taking the time and the effort to explain this to me,and i am hopeful that others in this group will also benefit from this.You have been helpful as far as knowledge,Alexis got to me on another level.She is so funny,but there is a special purpose for people like her.When we were talking,she told me,"You can not use electricity any more."I asked her what she was talking about.SHE SAID,"you don't understand all that there is to know about electricity.so do not use it again until you understand it completely."i am use to her saying off the wall things,but i also know there is usually a reason behind what she says if you really think.it was quiet,then she explained,"you do not want to become a Christian because you do not understand everything.you never will,Gabra,so there will always be a reason to say no.it is stupid,it makes no sense to not take what you need just because you don't understand all about it."it made perfect sense to me,and what jeanette said about God "calling" me,and we can choose to resist it or choose to follow it.it will not leave my head,that is the only logical explanation of why i feel this way.i need God,there is an urgency,but what do i have to do?i need him now,i want him.i hope that i was not disrespectful by doing this,but i yelled at him,i said,"what do you want from me?you know what kind of person i am,others are more deserving.why me?i am here,what do you want?what do i do?"and that was it.kaya said just talk to him.i have been.i think i am too bad.she thought that too,but i see that she is different now.sorry for rambling,i just want to tell you thank you.you can not give a person a better thing than God.thank you.sorry for rabling,i do it a lot.
If a person gets God, but then turns away, can they come back again.
Once a person has been born again, they are immediately sealed with the holy Spirit of God for as long as they live.
Ephesians 4:30 says....."And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption."
John 1:11, 12 & 13 says....."He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to b ecome the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blod nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."
Jesus was sent to his own.....the Jewish people, God's chosen, and they received Him not, they rejected him and crucified Him. Those that did receive Him, believe on Him, He gave them the power to become sons (children) of God. These sons or children were not born of blood or because of the desire of the flesh but they were born of God, spiritually.
Before Jesus was crucified, buried and resurrected on the 3rd day, He referred to all those who believe in Him as His sheep of whom He was the Shepherd.
John 10:26 thru 30 says......"But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I am my Fathe are one."
We are told in 2 Corinthians 6:17 & 18......"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughtes, saith the Lord Almighty."
Separation in scripture means "from" whatever is contrary to the mid of God; and "unto" God Himself. The underlying principle is that in a moral universe it is impossible for God to fully bless and use His children who are in comprimise with evil. The unequal yoke is anything which unites a child of God and an unbeliever in a common purpose. Separation from evil implies (a) separation in desire, motive, and act, from the world. (b) separation from believers who conform to the evils of this world, especially false teachers, who are vessels unto dishonour. The reward of separation is full manifestation of the divine fatherhood, unhindered communion and worship, and fruitful service. World conformity involves the loss of these but not of salvaton.
There are 2 possible answers to the question you have asked.
There is the possibility that a person was never fully saved or born again to begin with and this is what caused them to go back into the world and separate themselves from God. The other possibility is that they were born again, they did receive the sealing of the holy Spirit of God, and just back-slid, got off the beaten spiritual path. In the event of the first possibility, it is always the right time to become saved, a born again child of God, and this should not be put off another day. In the event of the second possibility, one who is a born again child of God that has slipped away most certainly may return to the Father. With a repentant and broken heart, go to Him in prayer and ask forgiveness, confess your sins and griefs, and be willing this time to follow our Lord Jesus Christ and not after the world. There is nobody on earth that can take you away from your heavenly Father. If you are His, it is a forever thing that cannot be broken.
Now, for that final Question #5.......Does God love everybody?
God so loved the whole wide world that He sent His only Son into this sinful world to save all mankind from their sin. But there are some people in this world that are so evil that God has given up on them, turned His back, and these are the ungodly ones that God hates. So I would guess that the correct answer to your question is "NO", God does not love everybody.
I hope I have answered these questions so that you can understand them and benefit from them. If there is anything else that needs to be discussed, please let me know.
Why would God tell soldiers to kill everyone, even babies and animals who did no wrong?
God instructed His chosen people, Israel, those He delivered out of Egypt, to kill everything that breathed in certain cities that were enemies of the Jews. The reason He did this was because these enemies would have taught God's chosen to worship other gods and to do abominations as they have done unto their gods and caused them to sin against God. Also, God did not want His chosen to mix with any other nation of people but to keep themselves a pure nation. They were even intructed not to intermarry outside of their own tribes. These blood lines had to remain pure for our Lord Jesus Christ to be born of when the time was right for Him to enter into this world in the flesh.
At the time when this was practiced of God, there was no other people that could worship Jehovah God, Christ had not yet come into the world to open the door for the Gentiles, those outside of the Jews, to have access to God the Father.
Read Ephesians 2:11, 12 and 13:
Wherefore remember, that ye being in times past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands: That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
God does not ask anybody to kill innocent women, children and animals today. The killing of innocent animals was necessary in the Old Testament for the sacrifice of the sins of Israel as a nation. This began when Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden. God had to slaughter innocent sheep and use their skins to cover the nakedness of Adam and Eve, he made a covering for their sin. It has been that way ever since up until the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. He was the ultimage sacrifice, once and for all. The practice of sacrifice taught the Jews what it meant to repent. When they had to kill the best of their flock, most likely the favorite pet of the children, just to cover their own sins. I know it would break my heart severely if I had to kill one of my pets because I sinned against God. And having to explain to my children that it was all my fault that I had to kill their most beloved pet and see the hurt and pain in their eyes. And this is the reason our Lord Jesus Christ had to die on the cross. He suffered terrible agony so that we would no longer have to. He took all of our sins upon himself and became the sacrificial lamb that we could have forgiveness and eternal life through the cleansing of His precious blood. He died for us and all He asks in return is that we live for Him.
Gabra.......You asked "Why does God allow innocent people to suffer if He is a just god?" This is what I have been able to find for you so far.
First, I would tell you simply that God has given all of us a free will. We are the ones responsibile for the sufferings of others, human and animal. We choose to judge others and issue the type of punishment we feel is good enough for them. We express our emotions, love or hate, like or dislike, comfort or fear, acceptance or rejection on these lives and treat them accordingly.
Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Galatians 5:16 & 17 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
These are just a few of many scriptures that confirm that we have a choice.....a free will to choose what we will do. God allows our bad or evil choices to teach us how to make better choices that will cause less suffering. He gives us a way of escape to see if we will choose to use it or to reject that escape to continue in our wickedness and evil ways.
1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that you may be able to bear it.
Our God is JUST.
2 Thessalonians 1:6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense (compensate) tribulation to them that trouble you.
Gabra......I know I'm slower than a Christmas turkey in a cold oven, but I am working on your questions here along with the others ones you have sent to me.
Some are easier than others so I will start in the middle if that is okay with you.
3. Is there any group of people God hates?
Sadly I must say yes, there is. Please follow the following scriptures.
Psalms 5:4, 5 and 6
4 For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness: neither shall evil dwell with thee.
5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.
According to these verses, God does not find pleasure in wickedness, nothing evil will live with Him. The foolish cannot even stand in His sight, he hates all those that work iniquity or that are ungodly. He will destroy them that speak flatteries: God detests the bloody and deceitful man.
5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.
The LORD trieth, or forgives the righteus: but those that are wicked and those that love violence, his soul hateth.
Proverbs 6:16, 17, 18 and 19
16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
The above list of things God hates is pretty much self explanatory.
I will be answering another question soon. Sorry to be taking so long.
Gabra.....your first post of 5 questions will take me a little longer to answer. I will try to locate Bible scriptures to support my answers. Just wanted you to know that I'm not ignoring that one. Please be patient with me.
IF THE EARLY AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE CHRISTIANS,THEN WHY DID THEY KILL NATIVE AMERICANS,TAKE THEIR LAND,AND KIDNAP AFRICANS AND ENSLAVE THEM?
Gabra.....The answer to this question cannot be found in the Bible but I will share with you what little I know.
The Europeans that came here to settle this land had no choice but to make room for themselves. The Native American Indians do not believe in owning land, it all belongs to the Creator and they are privileged to live upon it and enjoy the bounty provided to them because of it. They knew that God (their Creator) formed mankind out of the dirt and clay of the earth. Therefore, the earth became the womb that birth mankind and they call her Mother Earth. They had respect for the land, nobody could own "Mother" and they did their best to take care of her. She provided them with food, fruits, berries, and she fed the buffalo that provided them with meat and the skins were used to make their teepees. They did not understand the ways of these strange people who planted permanent buildings and homes and fought over the land because of the minerals and ores that were found there. The Indians had no knowledge of the many uses of these metals nor the value of them. These strangers were interferring with the natural cycle of nature and were an irritating interruption to their way of life. When the Europeans saw the amount of work that would be involved in clearing the land, mining for coal, gold, and building the cities and homes, they needed someone to do all of this labor. I'm sure some of the slaves were kidnapped for this purpose, but don't forget that many of the blacks and Indians sold their own people into slavery for the wealth and trinkets of the white man. All 3 races of people carry the burden of blame on that account.
The southern plantation owners treated their slaves very good for that day and time. They each had their own little huts/houses to live in, a steady job, were provided with their clothing and food and utilities, were allowed to have families. This is not unlike the blacks of today, they still have slave mentality. They do not want to get their own jobs and be independent. They want to sit back and let the plantation owner (federal government) pay for everything. They get government housing, free health care at the charity and state hospitals or clinics, they are on food stamps and also receive a welfare check. They are given the option for an education which they don't want, goof-off in school and either flunk out or quit. I can only assume that slavery wasn't too bad for them since they still do not desire to rise above that level of lifestyle.
This also goes for the American Indians that have chosen to stay put on the reservations and take whatever handouts they can get from the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). Others have come off the reservation, gotten good educations and risen to the level of wealthy or higher middle class citizens, just as some blacks that have excelled and risen to the higher level of society.
There is an old, old saying. What goes around, comes around. If you notice, there is another breed of government now running this country and it is the middle class of whites and the senior citizens that are now slipping into the lower poverty level of society and also becoming dependant upon food stamps and state health care. Eventially the "elite" will get their also. If not in this life, the next one for sure.
IF THE EARLY AMERICAN PEOPLE WERE CHRISTIANS,THEN WHY DID THEY KILL NATIVE AMERICANS,TAKE THEIR LAND,AND KIDNAP AFRICANS AND ENSLAVE THEM?
1.WHY DOES GOD ALLOW INNOCENT PEOPLE TO SUFFER IF HE IS A JUST GOD?
2.WHY WOULD GOD TELL THE SODIERS TO KILL EVERYONE,EVEN BABIES AND ANIMALS WHO DID NO WRONG?
3.IS THERE ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE GOD HATES?
4.IF A PERSON GETS GOD,BUT TURNS AWAY,CAN THEY COME BACK AGAIN?
5.DOES GOD LOVE EVERYONE?
Holly.......I really don't know how to answer that question. We do know that our Lord Jesus Christ existed in Heaven before being sent into this world in the flesh, He was always there in the beginning of all things. We are told in the Bible, Jeremiah 1:5......Before I formed thee in the bellly I knew thee. I personally do not believe that mankind exists in heaven waiting to be sent here because God said in the formation of this world....."let us make man in our image." That leads me to believe that we do not exist until the very moment of conception......EXCEPT.......He most likely knows all of us before He forms us in the belly because we are first conceived in His mind and plans for this earth. Whether we are or not, it matters not in this life for us to know and it has nothing to do with our worship of Him and believing on the Only Begotten......our Lord Jesus Christ. There are so many things in the Bible that God has revealed to us to learn, that we cannot possibly learn it all in our lifetime. There is no time to add to it those things that are not told to us. There are many things that I have wondered about for only a couple of moments but dismissed them right away because I knew there could be no answer.......like.....did Adam and Eve have belly-buttons? They were not born with umbilical chords since they were never conceived in the womb and delivered of earthly flesh parents. That is just one of the many ways that Satan has of distracting our attention away from the truth and causing us to chase after the unknown to create doubt in our minds. Just laugh for the thought of the moment, and then tuck it away and forget about it.
This post was modified from its original form on 24 Sep, 8:27
Before we are born here,do we exist with Almighty,or in another place-or do we begin to exist at conception?
Okay, Linda......It's Sunday morning and I'm going to try to sit down long enough to try to explain about the flood. Lets look closely at 2 Peter, Chapter 3, verses 1 through 7:
My bible dates this writing to be about A.D. 60.....the temple was not yet destroyed (that happened in A.D. 70), and Peter is preaching to the Jews at the temple site in Jerusalem. Everything was continuing as it had for thousands of years according to the Law, except that now the Apostles were teaching the Jews that Jesus was their Messiah and that they had rejected Him. Those Jewish believers now believed that Jesus was the Son of God, but there were still those that did not believe.
This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour.
There was no bible in those days.....they only had O.T. scrolls that contained the Word of God that was written by the prophets. Peter is asking this congregation to think back to the words of the prophets and also remember the commandment to the apostles by their Lord and Saviour.
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days (There will be 2 last days....the last days for the Jews/Israel and the last days for the Church. Peter is talking to the Jews, so the last days he refers to would be those for Israel before the coming of their Messiah to establish His kingdom) scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
Peter and the other 11 Apostles were totally unaware of this age of grace, the church age, which would be inserted into their timeline between the 69th and 70th week of the times of Jacob's troubles (Daniel, chapter 9). Peter was a devout Jew, followed after his Jewish Messiah, and preached salvation by works.....as Jesus taught them, to love one another as He had loved them. They were still under the Law. They now believed that Jesus was the Son of God, their Messiah, but they are waiting on His return to establish His kingdom.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
Did the whole world perish in Noah's flood? In Genesis we are told how Noah sent out the dove each week to see if the waters were abated and finally she came back with the olive leaf in her mouth. So we know that only life with the breath of life in it's nostrils perished in Noah's flood. So when was there a flood that caused the world to perish?
Go back to the first chapter of Genesis. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Period, that is it, there is nothing more to add for millions, maybe even billions of years.
We are told in Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he that established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else."
He created the heavens in the beginning. He formed the earth and stretched out the north and hung the earth on nothing. Job 26:7 He hath established it......he furnished it with life forms such as were found in the days of the cave-man and prehistoric animal life, as well as the plant life of all kinds. He formed it to be inhabited.....yet we are told in Genesis 1, verse 2, "And the earth was (became) without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters." Since He did not create it to be without form and void, we can see that there was some chaotic event that brought on God's wrath and this was His judgment pronounced upon the earth. The following verses then are the resurrection of the earth from the watery grave that encased it all those many years. It was clothed in darkness so in vs. 3, God said,
Let there be light and there was light. The scriture doesn't say He created light, He spoke and brought existing light back upon the earth and divided it from the darkness. And the evening and the morning were the first day. So many believers read this accounting of Chapter 1 in Genesis and automatically think that this is the time that all things were created. However, if you read it carefully, you will find that there are only 3 creative acts out of the 7 days of God's work in restoring His original creation. These 3 creative acts were.......(1) vs. 21....And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind, and God saw that it was good.......(2) vs. 25.....And God made the beast of the earth (just as he made man from the earth) after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind.......(3) vs. 27.....So God created man in his own image. The other days were days of refurbishing what was already there. In speaking to Adam and Eve, we are told that "God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it:" The word "replenish" is a key word that tells us that there was life (of some form) before Adam and Eve, but that would have had to be in the dateless past when God created the heaven and the earth. There is another clue to this fact in Verse 11......"And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so." During all the time that the earth was buried in that watery grave, the seeds of this unconscience form of live continue to remain stored within the earth and were preserved until this resurrection. With light and the warmth of the son, the EARTH brought forth these things, not God CREATING them.
Returning now to 2 Peter, vs. 7...... "But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men." The world that was created in the beginning perished, and the world of Noah's flood did not perish. There were survivors of mankind and animal life and plant life was still there as the waters abated from the earth, the dry ground returned and the seas returned to their boundries. God took out the garbage and cleaned house for a fresh and new beginning. I hope this has been clear enough for you to see the difference, the how and why regarding these 2 floods. I'm open for questions if you have any.
2 Peter 3:8 "___ With the Lord a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like a day."
As for the flood question vs 6 states "By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. Earlier it mentions how earth was separated from the waters by God's word. In my bible I have verse references that directed me to Genesis 7:21-22 which states the flood occurred during the days of Noah. Interesting that going through the geneology of Adam to Noah.there is only about 9-10 generations between them.
Kaya......The main reason I posted reference to the name of Jehovah God is because of my native culture. The Native American Indians have different names for Him but they are referring to the same God that we are. They may call Him, Sky Father......Great Spirit......Great Mystery......Grand Father..... or Wakan Tonka from their own language. So many uninformed Christians think that they are being disrespectful and followers of New Age by their calling Him names they are not familiar with. When the Indians speak of Mother Earth, that is not a New Age term, it was used long before the "hippies" came around and adopted that term for themselves. The Indians refer to Mother Earth because God formed man from the dirt and clay of the earth. Therefore, the earth became the womb of the human race and that makes the earth our Mother. The drum used in their ceremonial dances is referred to as the heartbeat of Mother Earth. Since you are from a different country that practices a religion that is not commonly known to us, I just wanted to share our terminology of how we address our Heavenly Father. Until you and Rahab joined in our fellowship, I had never heard of Rastafarians and am totally ignorant on their beliefs. Please do not think that I was dictating to you how you should address our Lord, I hope I'm never guilty of that. I do know that when I am in conversation with others of my culture, sometimes it makes me shiver to hear them use terms that are not found in the Scriptures for the Lord. I guess it's just all in what you are accustomed to hearing and what you feel comfortable with. Thank you for enlightening me more about your cultural practices.
Part of our family are Christians,some are Rastafarians.The Christians call Him Jehovah or Yahweh,the Rastafarians call Him Jah.I derive my beliefs from both,I call Him Almighty ,Yahweh,Jehova,or I Am....."I AM THAT I AM,THAT IS MY NAME FOR EVER."Who ever God,Almighty,Great Spirit is,I want to be at peace with Him.I believe Him to be benevolent,and I hope that I am right.
Billy Graham says it so much better than I ever could. Please to to the link above and read from a non-denominational Evangelists.
Rahab......I have noticed that you and Kaya always refer to God as Almighty. He is definitely the Almighty Father and God of our Lord Jesus Christ. He does have a name though. I refer you to the Book of Exodus in the Old Testament, Chapter 6, verses 2 and 3 which says:
2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD:
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.
Jehovah God the Father sent His only begotten Son into this world to save the world from sin. I refer you to John 3:16 in the New Testament, where Jesus said:
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Beause God loved the whole.......not just part......but the entire world, He sent His Son to save Everyone from sin. This includes Rahab and Kaya. This includes anybody that wants to belong to him. We have been given a free will and the choice is ours. Which will you choose?
Jesus also said in John 6:37:
37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Jesus has never.....and will never.....turn His back on anyone that wants to come to Him. He is ever standing at the door and knocking, it's up to you to let Him in.
There is only one way to be a child of God and to enter into the Kingdom of God. In John, Chapter 3, verse 3, Jesus was talking with Nicodemus and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Continuing on in verses 5 and 6: Verily, vrily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
You have already experienced birth by water......that is the physical birth into this world from your mother's womb. It is a water birth because it is assisted by the breaking of the water bag that surrounds the baby while in the womb. All that is necessary now is to be born of the Spirit.
I do not care where you answer my question.
I have many,hope I and I do not drive you crazy.
Most of my relatives are Rastas.I do not have a religion.Had a lot of teaching from BOBO SHANTI and NYAH BINJI,sects of Rastafarians.
I do not care about religion,I just want to know what Almighty wants from me.Or if He wants me at all,perhaps He does not.
But I want Him.I have too much conflict inside me.
Rahab.....I hope that it's okay with you that I answer your question here about Jacob and Esau.
If God does not play favourites,but we can earn His favour,why did God say,even before the babies were born,"Jacob I love,but Easu I hate."?I do not under stand it.
God is all knowing and he knew when He formed Jacob and Esau in the womb what each would be in life. The prophet Jeremiah told us in Chapter 1, verse 5, "Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee;" God knew that Jacob would be the lawful one, the Godly one, to live according to God's ways and in service to Him. He also knew that Esau would be a man of the wilderness, a lawless person who gave no thought to serving God. The following are notes from one of my commentaries written by H.A. Ironsides, he says it better than I ever could.
In reading Romans, Chapter 9, God is pleading with the sons of Jacob to serve and obey Him, on the ground that He is doubly entitled to their obedience, first, because He is their Creator, second, because of the privileges, the earthly blessings He has given them. Comparatively speaking, He has loved Jacob, and hated Esau. That is, He gave to Jacob a beautiful fatherland, well-watered, productive, delightful for situation; He gave them, too, a holy law, pastors, shepherd-kings to guide them, prophets to instruct them, a ritual system full and expressive to lead their hearts out in worship and praise.
All these things were denied to Edom. They were the children of the desert. We do not read that a prophet was ever sent to them, though they were not left without some knowledge of God. Esau received instruction from the lips of his parents the same as Jacob, but for a morsel of bread he sold his birthright. And his descendants have ever been characterized by the same independent lawless spirit. Dispensationally, Jacob was loved, Esau hated. There is no reference to the individual as such. “God so loved the world,” and therefore every child of Jacob or of Esau may be saved who will. But no one can dispute the fact that Jacob and his descendants enjoyed earthly privileges, and spiritual, too, that Esau and his children had never known. Is God unrighteous in thus distinguishing between nations? Is He unrighteous, for instance, to-day in giving to the peoples of northern Europe and of America privileges that the inhabitants of central Africa and inland South America have never known? By no means. He is sovereign. He distributes the nations of men upon the earth as seems good to Himself, and though He takes up one nation in special grace and passes by another, that does not in the slightest degree hinder any individual in any nation from turning to God in repentance, and if any men anywhere under the sun, in any circumstances whatever, look up to God, no matter how deep their ignorance, confessing their sin and crying out for mercy, it is written, “Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
I hope this has been helpful to you and given you an understanding of the question you asked. If you have any more questions, please do not hesitate to ask.
(Gen 1:26 [KJV])
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(Gen 1:27 [KJV])
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(Gen 1:28 [KJV])
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Question: How long is a day with the Lord?
Read 2 Peter 3:1~9
Since this one is so easy, I'll throw in another one from the same reading........When was the flood that is mentioned in this same passage of scripture. How did you come to your conclusion?
Right on target again, Linda. The earth was not destroyed in the Genesis flood......when the waters receded, the trees and mountains and other plant life still existed. When the earth is destroyed by fire......as told by Peter.......I think that is going to be a "purification" of the earth, a system of ridding the earth of the curse of sin. In Genesis, God cursed the ground (Genesis 3:17) with thorns and thistles because of the sin of Adam.
I'll take advantage of the long weekend to find another question for you. Have a fun and safe holiday.
Don't know why there are spaces between the sentences of my prior post. Tried to fix it twice with no luck.
The answer is true.
Generations come and generations go,but the earth remains forever.(Eccles 1:4)NIV
He sets the earth on its foundations;
it can never be moved.(Ps 104:5)NIV
In 2 Peter 3:10-13,it does talk about the earth being destroyed by fire during the Day of the Lord.
I don't think this refers to total destruction of the earth,but more of a restoration or refurbishment.
In Genesis 6-8 it talks of the earth being destroyed by the flood waters,but we know it wasn't totally annilated? in a way that it ceased to exist.
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TRUE or FALSE
Q. The earth will never be destroyed.
Read: Ecclesiastes Chapter 1
Excellent answer, Linda. You do so good at these answers. Here are a few notes from one of my commentaries to further explain this. To some it seems God is unjustly predestinating who gets what in regard to these twins. Not so, God is always just.
What a tremendous amount of needless controversy has raged about these verses! Yet how plain and simple they are, viewed in the light of God’s dispensational dealings. There is no question here of predestination to heaven or reprobation to hell; in fact, eternal issues do not really come in throughout this chapter, although, of course, they naturally follow as the result of the use or abuse of God-given privileges. But we are not told here, nor anywhere else, that before children are born it is God’s purpose to send one to heaven and another to hell; to save one by grace, notwithstanding all his evil works, and to condemn the other to perdition, notwithstanding all his yearnings for something higher and nobler than he has yet found The passage has to do entirely with privilege here on earth. It was the purpose of God that Jacob should be the father of the nation of Israel, and that through him the promised Seed, our Lord Jesus Christ, should come into the world. He had also pre-determined that Esau should be a man of the wilderness- the father of a nation of nomads, as the Edomites have ever been. It is this that is involved in the prenatal decree: “The elder shall serve the younger.” And be it observed that it was not before the children were born, neither had done any good or evil, that God said, “Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.”
Observe what is in question:-God is pleading with the sons of Jacob to serve and obey Him, on the ground that He is doubly entitled to their obedience, first, because He is their Creator, second, because of the privileges, the earthly blessings He has given them. Comparatively speaking, He has loved Jacob, and hated Esau. That is, He gave to Jacob a beautiful fatherland, well-watered, productive, delightful for situation; He gave them, too, a holy law, pastors, shepherd-kings to guide them, prophets to instruct them, a ritual system full and expressive to lead their hearts out in worship and praise. All these things were denied to Edom. They were the children of the desert. We do not read that a prophet was ever sent to them, though they were not left without some knowledge of God. Esau received instruction from the lips of his parents, but for a morsel of bread he sold his birthright. And his descendants have ever been characterized by the same independent lawless spirit. Dispensationally, Jacob was loved, Esau hated. There is no reference to the individual as such. “God so loved the world,” and therefore every child of Jacob or of Esau may be saved who will. But no one can dispute the fact that Jacob and his descendants enjoyed earthly privileges, and spiritual, too, that Esau and his children had never known. Is God unrighteous in thus distinguishing between nations? Is He unrighteous, for instance, to-day in giving to the peoples of northern Europe and of America privileges that the inhabitants of central Africa and inland South America have never known? By no means. He is sovereign. He distributes the nations of men upon the earth as seems good to Himself, and though He takes up one nation in special grace and passes by another, that does not in the slightest degree hinder any individual in any nation from turning to God in repentance, and if any men anywhere under the sun, in any circumstances whatever, look up to God, no matter how deep their ignorance, confessing their sin and crying out for mercy, it is written, “Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Paul quotes the word of God to Moses: “I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.”
Observe, you do not get the negative. He does not say, “I will condemn whom I will condemn, or I will reprobate to eternal destruction whom I will reprobate.” There is no such thought in the mind of God, who “desireth not the death of the sinner, but that all should turn to Him and live.”
It is true that God loved Jacob,but hated Esau.
Mal1:2b-3a "was not Esau Jacob's brother?" the Lord says. "Yet I have loved Jacob,but Esau I have hated,"
In Romans 9:10-13, it mentions Rebekah carrying twins by Isaac. Before the twins were even born, God told her the older would serve the younger.
v13) Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved,but Esau I hated."
God is referring to the historical fact of His free choice to choose Jacob over Esau.
God loved or "preferred Jacob and his descendants and hated or "rejected" Esau and his descendants the Edomites for reasons only He knows.
Pat......I learned a long time ago, there are NO dumb questions. That is the only way to learning and increasing knowledge. The silly part was what that other person believed because they didn't ask questions. Anytime you need an opinion, I've got hundreds of them......if you want the truth.....just ask and we will work on it together. The Bible explains itself.......had to reach old age to actually figure that out for sure......so if the truth is uncertain, we only have to search and find it. Have a great day.
lol lol lol thanks Jeanette i will lol lol copy and pate this to my email on facebook to the person who asked the question hey i know it was a dumb things to ask and i knew the answer to it but just needed a 2nd opion-confermation
TRUE or FALSE
God loved Jacob but He hated Esau.
Read Malachi.......Chapter 1.
Just a reminder that this question is still hanging without an answer.
Pat......That is so silly that it's not even laughable. Back in the book of Genesis God ordained capital punishment when He said, "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man." Gen. 9:6 Now, how can you sentence a man to death if you don't judge him? It's the jury that judges anyway, not the other employees of the courthouse. Then the Judge passes sentence. He doesn't even judge personally. This is part of government and God established human government for mankind in Genesis 9, verses 1 through 6. I can't believe anybody would be that ignorant as to believe that nonsense. Have your friend tell that other person to spend more time in the Word of God and learn the truth. Good luck! If you need more assistance, let me know and we will look up some scriptures together.
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Thank-You Jeanette for your answer i will some time tommorrow locate the person who asked the question to see exactly what they was getting at when they asked me the question, what im getting the understanding what the persons wanting to know (and im getting the impression) shes under attack form someone else concerning her job or employment cause she works for a court building (for a judge of the courts) she says shes a cristian to what i understand but someone has told her its not christian to hold that type of job down she gave no scripture to her question but im thinking shes refering to the one that says judge not least ye be judge so according to her , her boss is going to go to hell cause of his perfesion as a judge
Does that make any sence again im just speculation what its all about till i get with the person again.
Today is me and Joes 4th year wedding anniversary so i wont be online much today again
Pat.......There are hundreds of verses in the Bible that relate to Judging that without knowing the particular verse you are making reference to, it's hard to give an answer. I would like to refer you to the following verses:
1 Corinthians 5:9 - 13
9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12 For what have I do do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Paul is speaking to the Church, he is saying that we are to judge a persons walk......their lifestyle......as a professed Christian.......but we are never to judge their soul. If there is anyone in your life that you have to step away from God to have a friendship or relationship with, then stay away from them. They will pull you totally away from God and back into the world system before you realize what is happening. If that person claims to be a Christian also and still does not walk in the path of a born again person, do not give them the time of day. Pray for them and wait for them to return to the Lord and live in service to Him again. We are only to judge one another (Christians) by the fruit of the Spirit. If they are truly God's children, they will lead a life that is relecting the Lord's glory and you will know it. I hope this has put the light on the answer you were seeking. If not, ask again and we will go from there.
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I have a question its one that came up the other day on my facebook page the question is:, If the Bible says that Christians arnt suppose to judge one another and/or anyone does this mean were not allowed to hold down a job in the courts system ?
TRUE or FALSE
God loved Jacob but He hated Esau.
Read Malachi.......Chapter 1.
The only reason I was able to post the answer was because I ended up having to leave work early,so had time to stop by the library. Unfortunately,since I hadn't actually planned on posting my answer until monday, I didn't have the scripture verses I had written down at home with me to backup my answer.
Yeaaaaa Linda, you got it right. You are getting good at this. I really wasn't expecting anyone to come up with the answer on a weekend, so, I don't have another one to post yet. Now I have to do my homework on the weekend. LOL. Thank you for finding the time to do this with your busy schedule. I really do appreciate it.
The answer to the question who was the first person to enter heaven who was saved by the blood of Jesus Christ was, the thief who was crucified on the right side of Jesus.
Jesus had been crucified on a cross between two thieves. The one on the left began mocking Him,telling Jesus if He was the Christ, He could save Himself and them.(the thieves.)
The one on the right rebuked the thief on the left saying they deserved to die for what they did,but Jesus was innocent,He didn't desire to die a cruel death by crucifixion.
He then turns to Jesus and asks Jesus to remember him when Jesus comes into His kingdom.
Jesus answer him, "Today you will be with me in paradise."
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Genesis 1:27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
Everyone seems to be afraid to bite on this question. Maybe I should have worded it differently. Lets try it this way.....
Who was the first person to enter into heaven that was saved by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ?
Read Luke 23.
Who was the first Christian, saved by the blood of our Lord Jesus Christ?
read: Luke, Chapter 23
The meaning was hidden from them
Yeaaaa Linda. You got it. There are many times, even in the O.T., where we are told things are "hidden in God." These are things that were not to be revealed to Israel until the times of the end. Paul, the Apostle to the Gentiles, was the only one of the Apostles that these things were revealed to. If you pay very close attention to the complete wording between Paul's Epistles and those written by the disciples, you will discover that Paul was the only one that ever taught "mysteries" to the churches. There was a distinct difference between the teachings of Paul and the teachings in the 4 gospels. Thank you for taking the time to find this answer for the rest of us.
OK-I'm going to try this one more time.
In Luke 18:31-33,Jesus tells His disciples they are going up to Jerusalem where He would be handed over to the Gentiles to be mocked,insulted,spat upon,flogged,then put to death as the OT prophets foretold. Jesus Also tells His disciples He will rise again on the 3rd day. Apparently this isn't the first time Jesus has told His followers about His impending death and resurrection.
In vs 34 it explains that the disciples didn't understand any of this,in other words,what Jesus was telling them about His death. The meaning was hidden from them so they didn't know what He was talking about.
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Linda......no problem waiting. When we have to look something up for ourselves, seems like we remember it better than when we hurridly read what someone else has learned. There are some passages in the Bible that I have read countless times and then all of a sudden, it says something to me I have never seen before.
You are correct in what you have answered so far, but I'm looking for the reason the disciples did not know, even though they had been told.
Does anyone else have the answer? Please post your answer if you do. This question is for everyone.
Jeantte-it's kind of a catch 22. When I'm at the library,I don't have access to my bible. When I'm at home,I can look up the reference verses for the question in my bible. However,I don't have internet access at home. So I try to answer based on what I recall from my reading. When I get home this evening I will look up the verses you gave me,then write down my answer. Hopefully when I post again tomorrow(tues), I will have it right.
Linda.....I know that you are at the library and not at home where your Bible is. I'm so elated that you even try to answer these questions. You are on the right track and so close. Please read verses 31 through 34 and try again to answer. I know you start back to work next week and it might be a few days before we hear from you again. I'll wait for you.
I believe the answer to the 2nd question is partly true.
Jesus did tell His disciples several times in scripture about His upcoming death and that He would rise again in 3 days.
However, the disciples didn't understand or comprehend what He was talking about.
I think in Mark it mentions that they were afraid to ask Jesus about what He meant when he predicted His death.
TRUE OR FALSE (Read Luke chapter 18)
The disciples did not know that Jesus would arise from the dead on the third day.
Thank you Linda and Carla for responding to this question. You are both half right. In the beginning, mankind was created in the image and likeness of God.
Genesis 1:26 "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"
Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
But then something horrible happened. Adam sinned and changed the image of God. We are all familiar with the story, Adam and Eve were driven from the Garden of Eden and had to raise their own food, bear the pains of chidbirth, and life began as we know it today......(only without all of the modern conveniences).
Moving on in Scripture, lets take a look at Genesis 5:1-3.
1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him:
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
As we can see by the verses in Chapter 5, we are no longer in the uncorruptable, sinless and pure image of God, we are tainted by sin and now we are in the image and likeness of fallen corruptable and sinful man, the first Adam. When the Lord returns and calls us to meet Him in the air, we are told that our bodies will be changed in the twinkling of an eye. . . . . . . . .(1 Corinthians 15:52). THEN we will once again be in the likeness and image of our Creator.
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Yes, as stated in Genesis 1:27 I believe
Would post the scripture ref.but don't have a bible with me.
TRUE OR FALSE
We are all created in the likeness and image of God!
(answer can be found in Book of Genesis)
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