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Hate is Such a Strong Word.. April 20, 2006 4:53 PM

I remember the first time I heard my son say the word hate..He was 6 yrs old..He shouted out "I hate these vegetables" Now stating you hate your veggies really is no big deal..however..just the word itself has always bothered me..So I began to teach him to say..I don't like..rather than I hate..It did my heart good to see my son pass that on to his own son many years later..I am proud of my son and of my grandson..for they have no hate in their hearts..lots of things they may not like but there is no hate..I think teaching to not hate "anything or anyone" makes one..really stop to think why they feel as they do..and to look more at their own feelings rather than to just look outside of themselves.. 

People use the word hate so freely..and perhaps they don't see the harm in it..People hate this..and that..and this one and that one..and they don't even know why half the time..yet they know they hate..

I think many people grow up hearing the word hate..and so they just do as they heard..without really knowing why..Have you ever asked someone who is using hate so strong..why do they hate..most of the time they can't even answer it..Partly because they are so angry..for one must be so very angry to feel hate..but also because there is no real logic to their hate..they simple say "because I do" most of the time..And that is just not good enough..Nor is it right..

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 April 20, 2006 5:52 PM

Dee, I completely agree with you! The word hate is an over used word even in general as you referred to you son saying that he hated his veggies. A lot of people use the word hate like that and it spreads the more you hear it. I think it is wonderful how you taught you son to say "I do not like...." instead of saying hate.

I truly believe we are taught to hate just as we are taught to love. My sister raised her twin daughters to always great people with a compliment. Not a planned one, just one they thought of themselves. Both of them always loved my hair and my eyes lol.. so I was always told that I had beautiful hair and eyes. Now we all know how kids can be honest but if they do not hear the words then it's not in their minds. They never called anyone ugly, fat, etc. They loved everyone and thought everyone was beautiful. They always made people feel better about themselves. That's how I always pictured raising my children if I ever have any. To always point out the good in everyone and to actually see it even if it is on the outside because as a child that is what they see until they grow to learn there are more to people. But all that is a start!

Love, Tiffany

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 April 22, 2006 3:01 AM

I can only say... I don't hate. I get disappointed sometimes, but I don't hate. I wish things were different sometimes, but I don't hate.

Perhaps, hate is a reaction to something you can't handle... The reaction of others on certain matters, it might not be your point of view, but it's their's. Let them be... We people don't have to agree on everything. I just hope the general idea of 'good' is enough to get us all together. Without hate, only some 'differences of opinion'.

My view toward what's right does not have to be yours. I don't feel the need to convince others of my view.

I only hope all people will see the difference between 'bad' and 'bad'... If you smoke sigarets, it's bad for you... If you put a gun to somebody's head (you don't even have to pull the trigger), that's general bad... You are not helping to make the world better.

In general I would say, hate doesn't help, no matter what. Eventually it will onlly harm you, as a person, because it will make you 'block' for certain situations, certain people, certain groups and/or religions. You are narrowing your world by doing this.

I'd just say, let it be... As long as the 'hated' person isn't really doing a bad thing, it's his/her live.

Sure, I'd love to see all people as friends, but... Well, than all people will have to find a way to not dispute, see things as 'one'. This oneness in my opinion is the 'ultimate' religion. Not because a God, or a leader, a king, a profet, or whatever tells you to, but because you simply know.

Stop the hate... Be open to different views, and accept eachother for the magnificant beings we all are. On a beautiful planet which can give us so much, which contains so much beauty...

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We gotta stop the Hate April 22, 2006 2:12 PM

Before it kills us and our children. I think it all emerges from politics, something that didnt even exist and now there are rules to be applied. Though, its not so bad but then the ones who put the rules dont apply it themselves.

I share this with you, I got it from a friend in World Love group...its trully beautiful.

www.worldloveinc.us

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Yvonne .. April 22, 2006 4:29 PM

Thank you for sharing that link..A great song..and so much good on the site..I also joined that group..I'd love to add my name to the wall..

Thanks again for a beautiful message..

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Marc,, April 22, 2006 4:33 PM

I enjoyed reading your post..you have a beautiful mind..and a beautiful Soul..I wish the world could see things this way..but even when they choose not to..at the very least when one disagree's to do so respectfully..

Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts on this..

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Tiffany.. April 22, 2006 4:48 PM

That is so sweet that your sister encourages and teaches her daughters in that way..

I believe love or hate is something we learn..early in from the the start..so best to not only teach but show children the way of love rather than hate..

When and if you choose to ever have children..they will be blessed by your loving Soul..

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Im glad u liked it Dee April 23, 2006 2:32 AM

My kids are even keeping the page when they are on the computer....its just nice to hear that music. I have even posted it on my site so in case anyone visits my page they cud click on the tranquilizing music. Thanks for the star too!!!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous you know along these lines... April 23, 2006 11:48 AM

"Stop the Hate" is actually a negative title...has anyone considered renaming the group something more postive..."Promoting Peace and Tolerance", "Spread the Love", etcetc...

it just seems like we are trying to do something extremely positive here - holding ourselves back, even just a little, by using a negative name...just a thought...

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Sage.. April 23, 2006 1:29 PM

Hi Sage..I understand what you are saying..and you are so right the word "hate" is a very negative word in itself..but I feel Tiffany's choice for the name of this group is very open and honest and most direct..It is hate she wants..we all want..to stop..so in that light I think she selected a good title for her group..

The truth isn't always positive and or pretty..but the truth is there is so much hate in this world..and if we are afraid to even say the word then how can we confront the problems in it..or even begin to try to change it..

When I said "Hate is such a strong word"..I meant that in the way that people feel it..and say it so easily..but talking about the word and action's of hate..is something we need to do ..and should do..and I think this group is trying to address  hate..and spread love instead..

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Yvonne.. April 23, 2006 1:34 PM

That is so nice that your children like the music..and keep it open..how old are they..

And you are most welcome for the star..I was grateful that you shared that link here with us..

hugs..D~

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Sage.. April 23, 2006 11:14 PM

I understand were you are coming from and if others feel this way too then I am open minded about changing the name of the group. But I was trying to be direct when naming this group as I wanted this group to bring up issues of hate and bigotry in the world. I wanted people to realize what is going on in the world because of the negative feelings that people can project. BUT at the same time I do want to promote and spread peace too! I want to hit a medium in this group to bring up awareness of what we are doing to this world with our hate and what we could be doing if we were all more peaceful! So I am open to any and all suggestions from all of you! Thank you Sage for your opinions. I really do appreciate them!

And Yvonnne.. loved the link! I recommend all to check it out!

Love, Tiffany

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I agree... April 24, 2006 12:38 AM

I agree... I'd probably not joing another 'promoting love' group. You can't rule out the negative for the possitive to shine...

Although I'd love to see a world without negativity, it's not so... So, why not name the 'thing' as it is. There IS hate all around, and we (at least a lot of people) love to see the hate stopped. So, excellent name: Stop the hate!

If you don't say what's wrong, the problem will not be seen. It's like saying "Stop killing the rain forrest" and than not looking into the real problem, and the facts that thousands and thousands of square miles are being chopped down. (Closing your eyes for the actual thing that's happening)

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Sure its negative.... April 24, 2006 1:22 AM

but then you get the attention of alot of people who are opposed to HATE. They show the love instead of having HATE and how much good there is in LOVE. In the end you turn out with the most wonderful people who have strong feelings opposing HATE, which I think is great.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 24, 2006 1:23 AM

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 April 27, 2006 4:34 PM

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 April 28, 2006 8:05 PM

Yvonne I agree with you. For us that oppose hate do show love and love does conquer over all.. in my opinion. Love shows how great a person can be from the inside.

And thank you for posting the peace sign!

Love, Tiffany

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Hate needs to be addressed.. May 03, 2006 1:08 PM

It is so frustrating and sad when hate crosses your path..I know anger is a normal part of our human emotions..but why be so hateful..Where does it come from..what does it accomplish..

Does it come from pain..unhappiness..one's fragile ego..Fear..I believe it comes from all of that and more..

Yes hate is a strong word..It is a negative word..and I would imagine it is in itself a very draining..empty sort of feeling when one possesses it..feels it..and puts it out there..and dwells in it..

How do we help them..Can we help them..I don't know..I do know that any change must come from within..and each and every individual has their own responsibilty in that..

Sometimes people are confused by the use of the word..at least that has been my personal experience throughout life..

Please share your thoughts..feelings..ideas.. here on this..

loving hugs..

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 May 05, 2006 2:46 AM

Hate needs to be addressed, but as you clearly state... How to help 'overcome' hate, that's something a person has to do.

Me personally... As mentioned, I don't hate... I'm not going to lie, I have hated. Even in the last five years. When I got fired, and the whole way it was handled. I really would have loved to kick my ex-bosses ass.

But, nowadays... I relate to it as, well... We didn't see eye-to-eye, and this was his way (in my opinion not the 'nicest' way) to handle the situation. I guess he thought he was right too...

My right isn't necessarely the only right.

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Marc, great point. May 05, 2006 4:38 AM

As Marc stated basically we all don't see eye-to-eye on everything but it is how we handle ourselves when faced with these situations. You can choose to be civil or go the other way. I believe that people can have practical and peaceful debates/discussions on their opinions. I do a lot with my friends on a lot of different subjects. But when I get into discussions with others and things start to get heated I leave it at that. I don't instigate or push the subject. My intensions are not to always change someones point of view. For instance I have a friend that has some major issues with racism but only with hispanics just because he had a run in with one. So now he has it in his head that they are all alike and so on. He makes rude remarks and jokes all the time. I have asked to not say things like that infront of me but he doesn't care. I have to admit it really gets under my skin. So when he starts in I just leave. What I don't get is that he is homosexual so being part of a minority himself with his sexuality you would think that he wouldn't sterotype the way he does with this particular race. I just don't understand it. We don't see eye-to-eye on that subject but I have to say I know I am right when I say that his bigotry is wrong. But then he thinks that it is ok to speak the way he does and think the way he does.  [ send green star]
 
Marc May 07, 2006 12:36 PM

You make a very clear point that "we" all have emotions and we do get upset..angry..and can sometimes feel out of sort with other people..It is perfectly natural..but it is how we react to it..and how we handle it..that matters..

I am a very honest people..and on that note I can't say I have never hated..I still often feel hate..I have hated one person in all of my life..I no longer hate that person..as to often feeling hate..I hate many things..I hate to see another human suffer..man woman or child..I hate to see animals suffer..I hate the destruction that is being done to our precious home..the Earth..I hate the behavior of many things..but I try very hard not to hate another Soul..and I am happy that I do not feel any hatred in my heart..anger..frustration..sad..yes..but not hate..

Now hate may be a negative aspect..It never sounds right when it is expressed but I think the feeling of it can also bring something positive about as well..

Like anything in life there is good and bad in it..

I admire you attitude..it's nice to see respect of feelings given..even when we do not agree..

hugs..D~

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Tiffany.. May 07, 2006 12:47 PM

I understand your frustration with your friend..I think all we can do is try to point out and encourage anyone who feels so judgmental towards another..to try to place themselves in that other persons shoes..No..not everyone will get it..or abide by it..but it does help some to think harder about it..and I have seen some change their perspective in things..

All we can do is hope..and above all..live our own lives the best we can..and set an example and teach our children and hope they carry it through their lives and pass on to their children and so on..

"We can lead a horse to the water..but we can't make him drink"

Can't recall who said that but I always found it to be so true..

hugs..D~ 

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 May 08, 2006 2:58 AM

My comment on hate was more on the 'person-to-person' level...

but I try very hard not to hate another Soul

I do agree that I feel bad about a lot of things in the world. But for that matter 'hate is such a strong word'... I would love to see it different, perhaps I could even say I hate those 'worldly issues' too... But for me that feeling is immediately overwelmed by the feeling of 'trying to do something about it', and I want to remain realistic about it too...

For that matter if I do let my emotions go 'freely', I prefer my morning crying in the car... When I feel so happy and good, that I wish I could share it with the whole world! My happy tears... I do believe in that energy of 'light'...

However... At this moment, this particular period of my life, I can only do 'so much'. And I hope I can do more in the future...

Thus I prefer to spread love, peace and respect and I will NOT (at least not consciously) help spreading hate...

Peace & Love!

Marc

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Marc.. May 21, 2006 8:54 PM

Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that."

Martin Luther King, Jr.

You truly have a loving heart..and it is people like you that carry a strong message to end the hate..It's a pleasure to know you here..

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 May 21, 2006 8:55 PM

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 May 22, 2006 2:01 AM

*SMILE* Well... Euhm... Stotter... Thanks!!

I'm kind of busy at the moment, so I've not been writting that much... But I can say one thing. Within a couple of weeks our company will go online, and... I do so believe this is my change, the change, to be financially stable, to get more 'free time' and therefor, to (perhaps) be able to do more of what I intend to be doing.

I'm thinking of starting a website for 'volunteers', I've noticed that a lot of people around me are willing to do volunteer work, but... They have no clue where to start, and therefor often don't start. (That's a waste of potential positive energy...)

I hope I'll be able to 'connect' the volunteers with the agencies that really need the help. Even the smallest things, like the cat euh, assilum??

I'm also hoping I can have my own 'FlexSys' up and running soon, so it will be easy (and if I can make it so, free...) for those agencies to be online as a 'company' as well...

My hope is one day, that I earn just enough to make it (with Minke), and that I still be working my butt off, but than... For these kind of things. Because... That doesn't really cost much energy, not if you compare it to what 'we' gain...

Thangs again... It's nice to be appreciated.
(I love those occasions when it's not one of my psycho personalities that is trying to convincing myself... *grin*)

Oh, and... It's vice versa... Thanks for the few words of Martin Luther King Jr. I do so agree...

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Marc.. May 25, 2006 5:35 PM

Oh that is wonderful news from you..I sincerely wish you all the best with it..

The world needs good Souls like you..and you should be proud of yourself and I really mean that..I think what you are trying to do is a beautiful and most loving gesture Marc..Keep up the good work..

Thank you so much for sharing this here..See it is just this that keeps the light of hope for this world burning brightly..and I thank you for that..

M. L. King..indeed a fine beautiful Soul..his words will live on forever..and move us to loving gentle ways..

Hugs..D~ 

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