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I support gay marriage! October 01, 2004 10:24 AM

Hello to you all! I am a heterosexual, married woman, who wholeheartedly believes in gay marriage. I see marriage as a committment made in front of family, friends, and for some, God. To me, it doesn't matter what the sex is of the people making this important committment, as long as there is a committment being made. As someone who never lived with a man until I was married, and who conciously made this choice, I really am more offended by those who 'shack up', and demand the same rights as those who have gotten married. I don't beieve that those who chose to co-habitate (?real word?), have the same mind-set as those who chose instead to get married. Some would argue, that marriage is just a piece of paper, and what difference does that paper make in love? I would argue back, that yes, it is just a piece of paper, if that is how you choose to look at it. But before you sign that paper, you go through a ceremony where you make vows to each other, and commit to sticking together throughout anything life has to throw at you. To me, the COMMITTMENT is the most important aspect of marriage. Whenever I am filling out forms and I have to check off the little box that states your marital status, I really get angry when I see that 'married' is almost ALWAYS lumped together with 'common-law' or some other term for living together. They are NOT the same, and I take offense to being seen as the same as people who have not committed to each other in the same way as I have. Therefore, I fully support gay marriage, and believe that this right is long overdue! Many people who live together, for only a year or more or less, have more legal rights than those who are gay, have been denied the right to commit under law, and have been partners with someone for years and years and years. If two people have come together in love and want nothing more than to make a committment of marriage, who is anybody to stop them? If together they can provide a stable home environment for a child, or each other, then what is the big offense? Is it better for all these 'shackers' to get together, have multiple children, break up, move in with someone else, have more children, and provide no stability or security to their children or themselves? I doubt it. Which is more detrimental to society? I think the 'shacker-uppers' are definitely less worthy of the equivalent rights of marriage. There is my two cents worth.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
thank you October 13, 2004 10:44 PM

hi thank you for supporting us you dont no how that make us feel .theres not that many that dont think its a sin these days but please look over my group and tell others about this group called the L Word under the glbt email me if you have any question thanks again and yes you geta gree star.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 October 14, 2004 11:41 AM

I think since the government decided that Church and state should be separated, they should not have any say in who can or cannot get married. I also, do not think it should be an issue for even the church to decide. I do not believe for one second that it is a sin for two men or two women to want to share their lives with each other. I strongly believe the "Supreme Being" has a much bigger capacity for love than most people can even begin to comprehend. We don't choose who we fall in love with, it's something that just happens, to me, that's the whole beauty and nature of being human. Love is blind to gender, race, religion, etc... I am a gay man, in love with another man. There is not a day that goes by that I do not celebrate the day we fell in love. Why shouldn't we have the same rights as our "hetero" counter parts? We should be able to publically announce to everyone, that this is the Object of my Affection. Life is a celebration of anomylies (positive or negative) which help make us who we are today.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 November 03, 2004 12:10 PM

America was built with the people’s rights in mind. The right to vote, the right to freedom of speech and the right to practice and believe in whatever religion we choose. Now, with this freedom of choice, this freedom to practice whatever religion we deem appropriate for ourselves, we have used it to take away the rights of others who we feel are not morally sound as per our religious beliefs. Religion is not politics and vice versa. One having nothing to do with the other I am in complete dismay about the vote going through to take the rights of the gay community away. I can not believe how many Americas have chose to jump on the judgmental bandwagon and use the rights of one American to take away the rights of another. How can we continue to teach tolerance and fairness when we have so many exceptions to the rule?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
Tolerance November 10, 2004 9:47 PM

You know I came to this discussion hoping for tolerance.Instead I found tolerance for one choice and a rant against "shack up" I believe was the phrase.Gee that's ever so nice,your way is the better way? I am not for a disposable society but I am for love! Committment blessed by paper preacher judge or not! I totally support the right of two people to marry,I want the gay community to share those rights! I am an advocate from way back and that includes the choice not to marry or affirm your committment by social traditions.Perhaps I am an old hippie. Isn't the non judgemental way better? So love each other in your own way all! Tolerance!! MK  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 November 12, 2004 4:18 PM

I agree with you, MK, love is the most important, whether you are married or you "only" live together with your partner. One should choose whichever lifestyle that one is comfortable with. I am at the moment living together with my girlfriend, but we are not married yet. I don't feel quite ready yet, coz my family has enough problems dealing with the fact that I live together with her. So I want things to calm down a bit before we marry But it will probably happen next year anyways *S*  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 November 13, 2004 11:09 PM

Good for you! I have to male friends who were together since I was a very young woman,and they remained together til one of them died.Yes they should have had the freedom to marry. My friends parents (male female) were together til their kids were grown then they married,do we lessen the pre marriage years? Of course not. To each their own as long as the freedom of choice exists! MK Mazel Tov!!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
Let me clarify November 16, 2004 5:41 PM

I want to clarify my stance, as it seems I have upset someone who thinks I lack tolerance when it comes to people who choose to live together rather than get married. I believe that all people have the right to live and love in whichever way they choose to do so. My point is that people who choose to live together are usually against marriage for their own personal reasons, or think that living together first is the right way to go. I say "GO FOR IT" ....what bothers me is when these same people fought for the rights of married people. And that is what happened. They got 'equivalent to spouse' privileges while openly putting marriage down, or while postponing marriage until the time was right. My point to my post was this: Why should they get the rights of marrieds, when people who just happen to be gay don't get ANY rights as spouses! It isn't fair and it isn't right. This is why I support Gay Marriage...because two people who love each other and want to be married under the eyes of God or the LAw or Society or Whatever, should be allowed to do so, no matter what sex they are!! So, sorry to anyone that I may have offended with my viewpoint...but it is just an opinion and not law. Thank you for this forum to post my humble views!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
New Amendment November 19, 2004 4:56 PM

I still feel that if there is a well then there is a way. Okay, so the gay community is booted in the butt out of the heterosexual formality of marriage between only one man & one woman, (speaking in reference to our state constitutions). Well if it is so easy to pitch a coin into our constitution whenever a leader wants to, then I think that we need to put pressure on another amendment to be placed in our constitutions stating that legal matrimony between same sex couples (with all the same rights attached that a hetero marriage has). They don't want to call our relations a marriage, will that is just a term that can be changed. After all, we know as same sex couples we love just as much as the heteros. If they wish to divide us in our constitutions, so be it. I don't know about you folks, but I have lived and struggled this system for a very long time and feel that I deserve a right for my choices and freedom to recieve what the next guy & gal get. We might have to work at this but I am very welling.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
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