Dear Simha/William,
Wishing you and your wife happy travels and a smooth transition into India. I look forward to reading about your experiences.

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Simha, here's wishing you a safe and happy experience to India. Dont worry about the trials and tribulations you may come across cause thats the beauty of your effort to overcome them.

Please do come back and share your experience. Bon voyage... have a safe trip.

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My wife and I leave for India tomorrow! I`m not looking foreword to the first night of having to get a taxi to the hotel at the wee hours of the morning....but so it goes. The days to follow I am looking foreword to! my wife and I were in India for 3 months in 2007 and it was an inspiring experience, to say the least. Of course, as any traveler that has wondered the streets of India, explored the temples and taken part in ashram life .... I have many stories, many personal and life changing. I would share but I feel being so close to entering that world again I will refrain so I can keep from superimposing past experiences onto the near future ones. We will be in the north if anyone has a contact of NPOs or organizations that need help, let me know, include contact information and organizations mission. Peace to you all!

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Dear Sarvo and Subhadra,
It's wonderful that you are both in a place  that you love. Wishing you brilliance in your command of Hindi and success in your applications for citizenship!

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Well, Sarvo I'm happy for you and Subhadra.  I know it will please you to give up this  for this .  I wish you well with the study of Hindi.

Hare Krishna.
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My wife, Subhadra, and I have been chosen to be the Jagannatha pujaris here in the ISKCON temple in Vallabh Vidyanagar. I came to India on March 15th, 2007 and my wife joined me about a year later. We both love it here. There's really nowhere we'd rather be. Initially we had tourist visas that meant we had to go out of India every six months. Because, however, we are full time volunteer workers in a mandir, the government seems happy to change our visas to resident. Now if we can gain a good command of Hindi we will both try for citizenship.

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Jenny we really wish you to write pages after pages in here in the glorious india about India. Thanks for liking India and Indian people.

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Impressive Jenny, I just hope that you will get well soon. In the meantime, dont worry, we can keep you busy making sure you visit every part of India and taste all the different kinds of foods we have here.

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I could write pages here, of what India means to me, but I'll restrict my outpourings to beginning, middle, and today-of my life so far.
My first contact with India was in my teenage years, through yoga and art books. I was attracted to yoga and borrowed yoga books from the local library. I learned about relaxation, meditation and breathing techniques. I tried the poses.
I am fascinated by Indian art and philosophy. One of the first books I bought myself was on Indian sculpture and architecture.
After I moved to Sydney I was fortunate to find a yoga teacher - Acharya Upendra Roy. I attended his classes for several years, with breaks due to illness and having babies. These lessons have greatly influenced my lifestyle!
At this time in my life I'm mostly confined to home with chronic illness and pain. I can't cut up vegetables or stand for too long. I found out about some prepared Indian meals and have them delivered to my home... no additives, suitable for vegans, gluten-free, and very tasty (mm-mm!)
Now that I'm thinking about it, my life is so much richer because of India and Indians.

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Thats so right Patricia, I believe that Edith should be given a medal. She has been doing a really noble deed indeed.  The pictures are very telling.

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Edith,
You have a wonderful story and are a very generous person. I admire your doing what many people say they want to do—actually go and help after a disaster.  No doubt it took courage.  I am glad you found this group and I will go look at your photos in a mement.
grace and peace.
Patricia

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Hello Edith, glad you found us and have this kind of passion for India. I love it too...lol

Here where you can find the food in all its glory

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I was very happy to find this group this morning.   I am not Indian but I do have wonderful memories of India. 

In 2005, after the tsunami hit, a friend and i organized fundraisers as a means to help survivors.  We decided to help an orphanage in Southeast India because the news was saying how India was not getting help and there was also talk about surviving children being taken and exploided in sex trades. 

My friend and i raised money for the ophanage that was adopting 80 children into their organization of 120 children.  We also held seperate fundraisers to raise funds to cover our travel expenses so we could go and help the children and the organization that took care of them.  This was my first and only experience traveling abroad and it was the only time i had been away from my husband and sons.

It was the most humbling experience of my life.  Our community came together to make our vision a reality. 

While in India we were loved and we loved.  It is something that will live with me always.  I still think of the children often.  There is an album of picture (with a story out-line) on my profile page if anyone is interested.

I also miss the food.  Is there a section of recipes on this group? or is there a site someone might direct me to?  I would also like to learn more about the spices, beans, and seeds that are used in Indian cooking.  I try to make Indian food, and while my family believes that i do it well, i know that my cooking falls short.  While my cooking is short of being Indian, my love for India is long.

Positive thoughts & energy in starting a new day with a new group of friends who share the love.

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Patricia thank you for bringing this thread up and for sharing your story with us here. Dont worry we are here and wont go away, we are right here, we will be here with just a click away. It can be a sad thing to say goodbye to someone you have know for such a long time. Maybe you will visit them one day and as I said to Connie we could all co-ordinate and make a big party with spicy stories to exchange not forgetting the food that goes along with it too....

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Hi Connie, I'm glad that you are happy atlast. What a beautiful story you have shared with us and somehow I have missed to note it. I just hope that all  your dreams come true and that you will get a chance to visit India. Maybe we could all go there one day and meet....lol

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The nasty face in my post was not put there by me.  It did not show up on the "Preview" and I even retyped the "p" to no avail!

What's a girl to do?

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Namaste.
Yes, I have a story!  Or perhaps a hundred...
A couple of hours ago I said Goodbye to my next-door neighbors of eight years.  I'm feeling sad. They are returning to India, Hyderabad, today.  After a few weeks visiting their families the will move to Bangalore, where Gupta will continue to work as a temporary computer programmer.  He worked "temporarily" here in San Antonio, Texas, for eight years!  He worked two years in Chicago then went home to find a bride.  A few weeks after their wedding he and Laxmi moved into the apartment next to me.  Today they left with their two sons, ages 5 and 3.  I have had the pleasure of watching them grow from newlyweds into a family.  Over the years there were more people from India who lived here.  Many of them were from Andrah Pradesh.  A few years ago, of the seven other doors near my door, six apartments were occupied by Indians, who all spoke Telugu.
Gupta's next assignment will be in Bangalore, and I teased Laxmi about having to speak English there, because she does not know Tamil.  She never became very fluent in English, and there were many people here who spoke Telugu—robably more than she will find in Bangalore!  I took some pictures of them this morning and promised to send them by email when I get them.  I have an old, manual 35 mm camera.  Their 5-year old is adept with the digital camera.

I will share other stories in time.  Fortunately, I have many.

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I have always had an obsession with India, ever since I was 7. I never knew what had started me in this obsession, but I do believe it was the animals that are there. I really love all big cats, and always will. I am willing to as much as I can to  help these big cats, and the rest of the country's things as well. I have learned a little hindi, and had many friends here in the US that were here from India to attend college. I even dated a very cute and very nice Indian guy for 5 years, until he had to leave the US, he only had a student visa, and because of 9/11, him and my other friends that were here, had to leave the US as well. I truly miss them all, and will always remember just how special my friends were to me. They were way more sweet and acted much out of the love for others, which has taught me to try to be the same. I have also saw their devotion to their family, and have been much the same way ever since. I felt like I fit in more with the Indian way of life, than I have ever felt with other people that I have met and been friends with. I love the food, and have recently gained more friends that live here, that are from India
There is a newer swet shop by my house, and have made friends there as well. I usually try to buy fair trade items made my artisans in India, through another website that I go often to. I have just gotten a Bolllywood scenes makeup bag that is made from recycled plastic, a scarf, wooden boxes that fit inside each other and a hot pink purse that I started using the day it arrived in the mail. My mom wants to get a purse from India now. She really likes the one I have, but does not like as bright as colors as  I do. There are tons of Indian purses on this site, so I will jsut have her pick out which one she would like.
I have also gained a new boyfriend that lives here,t that is Indian, and he is only 25, while I am 34. He does not judge me in any way, and for some reason, he is not bothered by my age. I feel really special to have found him, since my husband was very mean to me and my boys. My boyfriend has made me truly happy after 4 years of an awful marriage. I have a new start on life as well. All the stress I had been going through is now gone.
I am so glad that I have always had such an interest in India, and hope to help as many causes for that country as possible.

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or otherwise able to get RTP2 (that's the Portuguese second public tv chanel), there's this series on Sundays, 'the story of India'; it's really great. Take a peek if you can!!!!!

(o, it is on the history of India, last Sunday they were discussing the 1800's, and the Brittish presence there... so many gorgeous places to visit!.....) 

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Brandy its delightful to have you around here. Hope you will experience the flavour of India before you visit it soon. Good luck with making it happen.

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Hello,

My name is Brandy,  I have been invited by my friend Ramchand.  I am not Indian, but like the culture and want to visit when I get the chance. 

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Happy New Year to

 all my friends

-sanky

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Hello all. I heard from Sobers who is visiting his family in Bombay. His mother wanted to talk to me and we did and then she asked me when I was coming to Bombay. It was a poor connection, but I was glad to talk with her.

Please give me your best "hot", pungent dishes so I can surprise Sobers on his return to the US in Feb.  He is always saying that American cooking is so bland, and he's right.

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Susan you sound smitten by Sobers...lol.... now that he is in Bombay, for sure he must be trying to hook up with some Indian girl there. It is amazing how one can separate the good from bad. Thank you for sharing this story. Do let us know how it develops.

Indians do tend to be very slow to introduce their culture for fear of not being accepted, hence, the introverted attitude you find. Better safe than sorry.

I may be in Miami to visit my aunt there...will see how we could meet if the trip happens.

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You're so correct Peggy. Now a picture to follow that could complete it.

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This is the 85th day of the year, with 280 days remaining in 2007.

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I wasn't saying you cannot and should not embrace another culture, I said that you can ... umm ... well I do not remember the exact words but I said that you should not give up your culture and embrace another - meaning that you can stay true to your roots and simply adapt - which is effectively what you also said.

I think I mixed up the order of the subject and predicate up there

It's not as if Indian women don't NEED to socialise outside their community ... if you only knew the kind of politics that goes on ...

The thing is that especially in the past, Indian women were brought up with rather conservative values. This trend started in the middle ages when India succumbed to invasions by barbaric tribes time and again. Well anyway - so given the values they are, or were, brought up with, they find less conservative women ... a bit odd.

I personally find those traditional conservative values hypocritical, and don't like interacting with such women. At any rate I have more babes than I can handle, and I don't think this could have been the case had I been hypocritical in matters like ... values.

- Anupam.

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Hello sophia dalle :

I was a Rajput Princess in my past-life, wondering in the hallways of Havelis wearing a red sari and coal-lines in my eyes... 

I wish.....

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Hello:

I feel like I have created a misunderstanding....?   My observation of the Indian Community in Canada was not from a 'neighbor's' point of view; I have studied History of India and lived amongst Indians therefore I believe I have a good understanding of their Culture: There are not cold and distance, and certainly not impolite, yet a 'female friendship/bonding' is different than how and why it is developed in Canada and other Western societies. 

One thing is that they, females, do not need to search for 'outside' friendship; they have very close relationships with their extended families which is admirable.  One another reason is the cultural outlook on both sides; they are so different that Indian Community feels that large number of the people with the norms of Western Society would not appreciate their conservative ways -(I do)- therefore any intermingle would not last long.

Finally: I am not advocating that any group should change their way of life to adjust to the new society they have entered, not at all.  I have all the respect for Indian woman wearing sari and staying a vegetarian, and not living home at the age of 18, or marrying without the blessing of her family.  What I wish I could see is that we, Canadians and Europeans, must show our appreciation of their values to make them feel comfortable so they wouldn't need a "bump" to look at us as their friends.

I hope I clarified my position on this subject..., or did I make it worst?

Thank you for reading.....

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I have very little experience with India and their culture. I have friends from India, when they cook for me, its a variation on the theme....not too hot, not too spicey, and so on. I love the people I have met, very loyal friends, and always willing to learn about our Canadian culture too. It always amazes me how quickly they learn our language, pop me into India, and I would be in big trouble! (hehe)

Hugs to Yvonne...

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MAY I SAY  I HAVE AN INDIAN GURU FROM RAJASTHAN . I MEDITATE TWO HOURS A DAY I AM A YOGINI I DO 1 HR OF YOGA A DAY. I AM VEGAN SHIVA IS MY ISHTA DEVATTA IN VEDIC ASTROLOGY WHICH I ALSO STUDY I HAVE  FRIEND SIN LITTLE INDIA IN QUEENS IN NY AND GO THERE FRQUENTL;Y AND TAKE VEGETARIAN LUNCH AT DELHI  PALACE. I LISTEN TO  INDIAN  SPIRITUAL MUSIC  I WEAR PAYAL (INDIAN BELLS ON MY FEET) WHICH ARE ONLY TAKEN OFF WHEN I HAVE TO AUDITION. MY HEART IS IN INDIA I HELP SUPPORT A COW AT VRINDAVAN WWW.CARE4COWS.ORG.MOKSH IS MY FAVORITE WORD AND RIGHT NOWI MUST MEDIATE! I AM ALSO  hostess of save felines from torture i have 2 petitions on care2. i collect antique moghul and kundan meena work jewelry . i am also an avtress/singer/poetess

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It can be hard to learn a new language, especially when you're an adult,

Anupam, its not hard for everyone, some people like I know, Ivy, is good at picking up languages, I try teaching her some Arabic from time to time...LOL...

and you cannot and should not embrace another culture You seem to contradict yourself here....and shed your own, but they should at least try to build bridges. You can't just immigrate to some country because it provides better opportunities, and then keep to yourself. I think that's like being a parasite.

I think everyone can embrace another culture and not forget their roots is more like keeping your feet grounded and admired for being yourself. So what if there are opportunities the other country provides? If they have it, you got it.

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No, I think you are right, Yvonne (how do you pronounce it BTW?   And what does it mean?)

However, I do wish we didn't need a to mingle. I mean hey, if some Indians are immigrating to Canada or wherever else, they should try to learn the local customs. It can be hard to learn a new language, especially when you're an adult, and you cannot and should not embrace another culture and shed your own, but they should at least try to build bridges. You can't just immigrate to some country because it provides better opportunities, and then keep to yourself. I think that's like being a parasite.

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Nerva, you're not alone in this. I'm an Indian married to a Lebanese and I also find that the Indians keep to themselves as I'm married to a non-Indian.

I'd like to say that Indians being introverts because of the culture.... not all I must add, tend to shy away, which in turn makes one to believe that they dont want to mix. They just need a bit of a and voila! you will discover the beautiful flower within.

ANYONE HERE WANT TO CORRECT ME?

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I was asked about the citizens of India in Canada: 

They are mostly from Northern India, and majority of them Sikh, live in or near larger cities as the other minority groups.  They value good education and keep close relationship with their families.

Unfortunately, they do not intermingle with other ethnic communities, especially the older generation who do not converse in English or French. 

It is not difficult to find very good quality food in the Indian Restaurants operated by them, and clothing shops where one can buy lovely saris, kamiz and shalwar, and 22 K jewelery, for weddings..... 

I was asked about the citizens of India in Canada: 

They are mostly from Northern India, and majority of them Sikh, live in or near larger cities as the other minority groups.  They value good education and keep close relationship with their families.

Unfortunately, they do not intermingle with other ethnic communities, especially the older generation who do not converse in English or French. 

It is not difficult to find very good quality food in the Indian Restaurants operated by them, and clothing shops where one can buy lovely saris, kamiz and shalwar, and 22 K jewelery, for weddings.....

A liitle story:

A long time ago as a very young girl I was a guest in an Indian wedding where two families both related to the groom or bride were attending to it despite the conflict among them.  I was asked to do a "favour" by one of these families, through their son who would get himself in trouble often: I was to learn how to say to the lady in other family that she was very beautiful, in Hindi of course.  I did, only I saw that she was being very upset, and her translation of what I said was, "you are as ugly as a crow"...!  Here, today, I apologize to that lady, I really thought I was showing my interest in the language of her country trusting to one naughty boy, of her country!  But, I know better now....

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For Egyptians, India is Big B

an interesting and entertaining article!

Love him for his action, not acting

Two things would strike Indians on a visit to Egypt — the warmth that the hoi polloi exude when they run into Indians and, the phenomenal popularity of “Big B” Amitabh Bachchan.
Indians are welcomed with open arms. Bazaar touts trail them saying: “India? Amitabh Bachchaaan! Come, I’ll take you to the Souq.” The moment Egyptians, whether young or old, see an Indian, they would exclaim in a chorus: “Amitabh Bachchaaaan! We like India!” In Egypt, Big B is synonymous with India. He is one of the three Indians who every Egyptian may know, the other two being Dharmendra and Mithun Chakraborty! The trio headed by Big B have done what Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru could not - make India a lovable country. And what do they like about Amitabh Bachchan? Is it his acting ability, his poise, sophistication, or the way he speaks his lines? None of these. “He strong man!” they would say, thumping their chests. The generally big-made Egyptians seem to go for brawn and action. Strangely enough, Egyptians are in a time warp in regard to Indian films. Fans here are hooked on to movies of the 70s and 80s, which run even now in the many ramshackle theatres in small towns.
DVDs of these old films sell like hot cakes. One couldn’t figure out why they were clueless about the latest ones or why so few had even heard of Shahrukh Khan, for example.
Hindi film music is another attraction, but less than the movies. And here again, Old is Gold.
The ring tone in our driver’s cell phone was Awara hoon, the theme song of the 1950s Raj Kapoor classic Awara.
The Bachchan phenomenon, and the role that Indian film songs are playing in making India acceptable abroad should make Indians shed their cavalier attitude to their film industry and start treating its problems with seriousness.
Bachchan himself said this in parliament long years ago when he was an elected MP.
“We are treated as jokers,” he had said in anger to a stunned Lok Sabha.
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choose Scotish cuisine its awfull.its guaranteed that you will leave most of it on the plate! auld mr macdonald invented the beefburger thought it was a revolution in cuisine and went about selling around the world,well i suppose,against haggis and turnips it was! oh we have another claim to fame take the tail of a cow and boil it for three hours and you got,good old oxtail soup yummy please can i have the hairy bit mummy?

The islanders will have a protest against them somewhere in care2 for eating Fulmars(which are little fat sea gulls) and funnily enough they do taste like chicken-well so im told lol-oh we did have fish before Angus went and boasted about the size of them in a japanees sushi bar.If you ever find a fish-never tell a jappanees man they have boats which empty oceans.even if you win one on the fair-keep quiet you may find a drag net ship outside on you lawn next morning.terrors they are,but love them we do.We would get our own back but they emptied the pacific years ago.So if you ever think im nice going on about multicultural societies im only thinking about my belly

love n peace

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Michelle, I love Indian food too.... LOL ... but all other foods are great too... Japanese, Chinese, Thai, Korean, Afganistan, Arabic, Greek, fomer Yugoslavian foods. I guess anyone who loves to eat can appreciate different foods.

Thank you Ramesh, he is getting better!

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Just let it be known that I love Indian food. I was in London many years back when things were better, although there was the IRA at the time, but I digress. We went to the most lovely Indian restaurant & had a fabulous meal. I have never forgotten it. The air was scented with perfume & I was with a tour group that was not very sophisticated & it distressed me greatly to be in their company.

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Linda, thats amusing!

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Oh Linda, I'm shy now. Though, have to tell you theres the earthern pot too, now, I hope I am correct. It cools the water when stored during the summer months. The taste is divine too, if youre into the taste of earth water. LOL!!!

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Thanks for educating me (as you often do) on the glasses. Stainless Steel. Steel is a metal....but I will call them Stainless Steel. I first got into this a bit during the 80's on a Macrobiotic diet...never letting food touch aluminum or teflon. Tried wooden utensils, however I just did seem like that could be throughly cleaned, and making wood wet would only encourage mold and mildew.

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What a whirlwind of exciting time you've had. There are times I wish I could go back myself and have fun in India like I've never had before.

Linda, those arent any metal but stainless steel. The steel glasses are healthy utensils and I adore eating the thali thats served in them. Its the most hygenic healthy utensil you can cook and eat from, unlike the tefal of today.

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Hi, Yvonne!

   Thank you sooooo much for this invite!!!! How did you know THIS??? I've never been outside the U.S. (other than Mexico and Canada- I guess I should say out of North America), and really have no desire to go anywhere...except India, all my life! I am not Indian, but having worked as a textile artist for 25 years, I have come to know an love many people from India. I have one interesting story (not cute...but interesting).

    Being a textile artist in New York City is VERY difficult, alot of the top designers are here, and no matter how intricate or difficult a piece of artwork may be, they ALWAYS want it by 5:00pm or 9:00am or first thing Monday morning. They continuosly are having meetings and trying to refine thier Spring of Fall design lines.

    Anyway, one day we were in such a crunch for time, It took 3 of us to work on one project to meet that 5:00 deadline. I had become very friendly with these two Indian ladies from India (Sonal and Kalana), we would also hang out after work or weekends and had been to each othershouses (apts.) many times. I don't know exactly where Kalana was from, but Sonal was from Bombay (...now Mumbi???) and they both spoke different dialects, but came together with Hindi as the common ground.

   So, this one day, we were just casually chit-chatting, they would speak a little Hindi to each other, then English, and back to Hindi. Well, one day they spoke to me in Hindi, and I answered them in English, not even realizing that they had spoken a different languge to me other than the only one I know, English!!!...And I do not know one word of Hindi to this day! Well, maybe you're not amused, but to this day, I still am. (This was at least 15 years ago).

   Where I live in New York City is one block away (in Manhattan) from what they call "Little India". Just love it there. Most of the people are very friendly, and walking through the neighborhood, I never have fear of being raped or mugged or anything terrible like that. (Same thing with Chinatown). I live in a neighborhood called "Murray Hill", but most people, in good fun call it "Curry Hill"!!!

    Strange little pocket in the world, New York City. You can meet people from every culture in the world without every having to board an airplane.

   Oh, yeah, as far as glasses or cups, I perfer the metal glasses that I can only find in my neighborhood. Especially in the summertime. They keep cold drinks colder much longer. And it is a constant reminder to me with every sip I take, that there are people in there world suffering drought without any water at all, never mind cold water. (Usually I have a mental picture of a Bedouin on a camel, having traveled for days with nothing green in sight). Not with food so much, although it SHOULD be...but with water, I am grateful for every sip. Those unique metal glasses are a constant reminder of other cultures in this world that suffer. I am not one of those Americans that drink great big super sized Coca-Cola's from McDonalds. Anyway, I would noteat an animal that is sacrid to another country, although I used to.

   Well, now, hereI am rambling on and on at 3:00am whished away into the middle of a desert....Thanks again for the invite!

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Usually tea is the norm at railway stations where they serve tea with milk in a glass, which is fairly warm, to be drunk just before the train moves. In the meantime you see the vendors trying hard to make that buck and collecting the empty glasses before they loose it.

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Well I am an Aussie a fair dinkum Aussie and I live right down the bottom of Australia and above Tasmania a little island that is attached to us. If  you forget them they get a bit cranky.

I have travelled quite a lot when I was younger and I did drop into what they called Ceylon (Sri Lanka)but only to the make shift airport and I remember and this was a zillion years ago: we were offered true dinky die Indian tea. I was a little nervous as all the cups had huge cracks in them. I am alive so I guess it was ok

Here we just had the Commonwealth Games here in Melbourne and it will be two weeks this sunday since the Closing Ceremony. I reported all about it on another group on here, and for me and reporting there I gained much knowledge.

I am single, never been married or have children So I decided to work with them and created a job where I work in the open air mostly, rather than being cooped up in a single room from 9-5pm 6 days a week as a Hairdresser. Now I am happy working with ' my passion' -children and art and I have done so for 15 years intertwining hairdressing at one point with this lifestyle too. I have a ton of interests and do many things, wear many hats. I am Spiritual and I have the 'gift of sight'. ha thank goodness I never get bored!! What on earth is that??

Summerannie

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