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To study language, we need to study self :) August 14, 2004 3:47 AM

Dear All, Ola! Very cool group and posts, thanx! Yes, the more we learn, the more we're able to perceive what we don't yet know, and its vastness is larger, though, it's not accurate to say, "the more we learn, the less we know"; i.m.h.o.. Known and unknown are, as all words, paths of studies, not objects; yet, usually are defined by their subjective sense, with the speakers perception being described, not reality. For, literally, there are no such antithesis, dualities, dichotomies, etc., all being delusional constructs of our mind's; poorly informed by our limited abilities to perceive and perceptions. Admittedly, all delusions are only parts of walls of delusional constructs, yet, are made of bricks of illusions and our subjective aspects of mind; therefore, don't exist. Though, the commonality of illusions lends them to their universal acceptance, and aids in our ability to be compassionate towards those who aren't able to discern reality from them. Yes, those astrophysical actions occur, yet, can we say we know, because we perceive patterns that most mistake for repetition? Real science states that all its laws are just variegated probabilities, to varying degrees reality, in any moment in time, space. Therefore, real science can only claim to discern realisms, while supposed science claims that 'science' is the only knowledge and is complete paridigmally; which of course is not true, and allows us to know that they propagate those lies for greed, market, sociological and societal imperatives. The same can be said for most religions, spiritualities, cosmologies, worldviews, etc.. So, the question of known and unknown has a proprietary basis, in its common usage. As the ever increasing supposed garnering of delusional profits and delusional pleasures in ever increasingly more cyclical and centralizing patterns, societies actual raison d'etre, is based on the purported better knowing and its better 'use', even though it's actually just based on the better access to, processing of information, and denial of the same to others. The mirroring of the scarcity based economic systems is evident in it, as well. Whereas, in reality, abundance is natural, and any systems based on it, economic or otherwise, evolve all life towards the realization of its potential, ones based on scarcity, don't; instead. So, for e.g., there's the information processing called, "the sun rises", which everyone seems to 'know', and the knowledge of "the sun also rises", which few can actually fathom in its entirety, even if reality weren't ever evolving. Which brings me to the pointless point that knowing id temporary at best, ultimately, as reality is ever evolving, and ever changing, etc.. Talking about classifications of knowledge and knowing fall within the purvue of the previous communication. Yet, what doesn't are studies of the evolution, per se, one being self-study. Towards that direction, and not in societies' direction of devolution, I post a twig of poetree and a previous post on it clarity Sword that cuts all ways, Without, for, there's no cutting; And a pointless point. Yes, indeed, the self we talk about to others in various circumstances, and with varying length of knowing of the person, and dependent on the nature of those relations, plays key roles in our communications. Yet, while we all have that multitude of masks, isn't the self becoming, like a snake sheds its skin, shedding those masks? To what we've all been referring to as the more genuine, real, original self? Also, how about the self before birth, totally non-sociological self's beginnings? So much for the intro., here's a dialogue which can facilitate myriad communications Anna, ~Bonjour! "And yes, I think we can modify the way people perceive the world, not from biological point of view but from therapeutical one." I appreciate the Adlerian approach just as much as the next ..., yet, as I counsel, I don't want to allow countertransference to be involved, to the extent that I'm capable; and the situation allows. "You may change the way somebody thinks or feels only when you touch somebody's heart. A revolution may change things externally but will not solve internal problems." Yes, one can do that, yet, for me that would be exactly when I would avoid that countertranseferential slip and navigate the rougher waters of empowering a clients self- actuation, natural ability to desire to change themselves. That independence of awareness that we could foster would be preferable to the shorterm gains a client might make knowing another's in their corner; as there are no corners or sides, only ones of our making, intellectually speaking. ~Diane, "We seek to change the systems and institutions that are in place to support and promote a society of have sand have-nots, of privilege and disenfranchisement. It's not about the individual. It's about collective thought and action and how society shapes mores, values and beliefs that lead individuals to believe, consciously or subconsciously, some groups of people are more deserving than others or that divisiveness between groups is necessary." Similarly, I appreciate your perspective, yet, to the degree this is possible, keeping the goals of counseling and my wish to avoid countertransference, in mind. For, as you're well aware, our society, and in all likelihood global society, are becoming more divisive by the minute. So, we don't want to project our thoughts, mores, morals onto our clients, especially in this area, for, their survival, not just quality of life, may be at stake; which is in the realm of their choice and not mine. ~Kevin, "I agree with Dianne. "Accepting ourselves and accepting and loving others" sounds like a cliché to me. So easy to say it easily becomes "lipservice." ". Yes, I agree with this aspect of your and her analysis too, yet, the way accepting and loving are "used" in our field has become cliché, as it has in society. Though, to the degree we can keep it real with our clients, for i.e., Carl Rogers, person-centered therapy, is the degree to which that accepting of clients can realize the space for their desire to work on oneself and to grow, possible. ~Very good insights, thanx! So true, people don't only dislike what they can't understand, they tend to ostracize it. This is compensatory because, if it's not in their life, then they won't have to think or feel more to relate to the genuine person; which makes them "feel and think" of themselves as together. They also, thereby, hope to not "have to" actually think about their lives, feel their feelings; the going along to get along game they play on themselves. They also do this because, their conformity, a mirror image of themselves, is all they allow themselves to see, which assuages their fears that relate to acceptance and control; i.e., being liked, surviving, succeeding, fitting in, etc.. I've had difficulty, yet, kept struggling, the growth potential, alone, makes being more real well worth it; i.m.h.o. Yet, I think there's, at least, a step further one can take your line of inquiry. For, yes, the questioners have their own agendas they want us to play into, yet, the labelers aren't the only ones. What about ourselves and our agendas? What, with keeping Jung's analysis in mind that 80 % of every action, thought, feeling we have is compensatory towards our past, this would bring light to the question, why would we label ourselves; even as "being ourselves"? It brings to mind the whole how could we possibly say who we are, because, as we're evolving, we are no longer that person we were, or were referring to, question. I'll address that later. First, for i.e., I don't refer to myself as anything. Let me explain. Since, for e.g., most people that call themselves Christians are only make believe Christians who continually defile Jesus Christ's teachings in his name, I won't call myself a Christian. Not to forget the abominations done by so-called Christians, in Jesus Christ's name. As well, I won't call myself a Buddhist or Christian because the label is usually used by the make believe ones to garner delusional profits and delusional pleasures from controlling that "group". They use it to differentiate in order to control, etc; usually. Another reason I don't use the labels is because the labels are also used to illude and delude ourselves, like the make believe students of religion do. How could I say I'm a Hindu, Jew, or Muslim, have I encompassed all that those great teachings have to offer. Don't we tend to do less when we think we've "accomplished" something, like being a "Christian"? Isn't the study of Native American Cosmology, for i.e., of such great breadth and depth that to fathom it is impossible? So, why would I assert I'm a Christian, am I really being all that that assertion would entail in that moment; or, even, any moment? As well, because, I was brought up in a militaristic style household where feeling wasn't, nor any religion, I've had a good initial course in questioning instead of believing. This took me a time to adjust, and experientially uplift myself and all with. For, feeling is power, and its denial or lack of insight on can have powerfully negative effects. Yet, since I've always discarded boxes, labels, and those who would, or do pigeon hole, experience has enlightened much of life. I used to say, in order to believe in sides, you have to be a square. Yet, I amended it to, not all those that believe in sides are squares. I stopped studying any belief system since 16 years old, choosing to study reality, instead, for the past 27 years, it serves me well, and reality too. This is based in experience and its fathomless well of knowledge. This is also the way I study religions, spiritualities, sciences, arts, et al. Cool! The good thing is that square or round pegs can fit into the one that they're not. Yet, what potential growth is lost with this miss fitting can be calculated. So, we continue to search, seek, grow, move, learn, teach, be, as we can; while we can. How do we even relate? I think using evolution as a common language, as it's the thread that links every, in the fabric of life, is a good place to start. In that direction Have you also discarded the labels of, stereotypes associated with, box of "being oneself"? For, since, if you don't exercise responsibility, its Siamese sister, freedom, will wither as well, can we allow ourselves the delusional pleasures of being satisfied with our thinking that we are being ourselves; even when we endeavor to? Don't we have to let go of the projection that we want to be ourselves inorder to be evolutionarily on the path to find out what that might be? I look forward to hearing your thoughts on these important matters. All, what do you think? Lest "we" forget, if you don't exercise responsibility, its Siamese sister, freedom, will wither, as well. Sadly, now, it first needs to be exorcized before its exercised. Viva la evolution! Music is life's song accompanying the abundance of joy's Spring. I look forward to hearing from you. Matutinally Yours, james m nordlund reality (aja) For those interested "of or pertaining to the morning, day: relating to or happening in the morning or in the early part of the day (formal), (Mid-16th century, from late Latin matutinalis, from Matuta, goddess of the dawn.)" Disabled Greens News and discussion, Group home page http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledGreensNews/ , Abuse in Therapy, Group homepage http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AbuseinTherapy/ Diffabled, Mental Health, all related issues, advocacy, and professionals: Invite link: http://passport.care2.net/invite.html?g=880 Homepage: http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Diffabled_MentalHealth_Action "Painting is poetry which is seen and not heard, and poetry is a painting which is heard but not seen." ~ Leonardo da Vinci Goodbye. Enjoy an estival eve' as you can. Copy, share, as you will.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Thank you, friend November 13, 2004 11:55 AM

for your erudition.  If we may make so bold as to suggest why your very interesting and valid points have languished here, un-responded-to, for lo, these many moons, we'd say it's because you have just demonstrated one of the least inclusive varieties of language, and at length: Academese; variant: Philosophy Jargon.

No offence meant, but that's precisely why we didn't study moral philosophy, and studied social justice instead.  Using language so exalted as to be positively ionospheric makes most readers and they quickly become , and usually pass out from sheer hypoxia.

We'll be more than happy to work with you, to deconstruct what you said, because you packed a huge amount of wisdom into that posting.  We have to print it out, annotate it, and possibly refer to several dozen literary and other reference works before we can deconstruct such erudition.

For the record, we'd like it noted that here is someone who writes Academese better (or worse, depending on your point of view) than we!   Unheard-of, in the annals of our message-board posting history, this is quite a tour-de-force.

Seriously, let's unpack this posting.  It's too good to go completely over most people's heads.  There are speakers of English as a Second (or fourth, or eleventh) Language in this group, and we native speakers must show them the courtesy of using reasonably standard English.

Thank you for the obvious time, effort, and thought you put into your post.  Please, may we have it again, in language that is close enough to the ground to be comprehensible to the many?

Very sincerely impressed (and slightly amused, by the perfect object-lesson),

Louisa Thwaite
Department of Languages and Linguistics
Higher Education
LeKZ/The Guyz

AKA Leïlah Z.

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No, thank you :) November 15, 2004 9:08 AM

Dear Leilah Z, et al,

Ola! Good Day All. Very cool thoughts and responses, thanx! I hope you and yours are well and will continue to be. Yes, friends, you're accurate, I can be a little compacted in my presentations.  Yet, to explain, or deconstruct, as you suggest, would take more time than I have available.  Yet, of course, if you have actual questions about anything I wrote, I'd be happy to answer them.  Though, for any real hope to exist, I think
using evolution as a common language, as it's the thread that links every,
in the fabric of life, is a good place to start. What do you all think? My
groups
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledGreensNews/ ,
Abuse in Therapy, Group homepage
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AbuseinTherapy/
Diffabled, Mental Health, all related issues, advocacy, and
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"Painting is poetry which is seen and not heard, and poetry is a
painting which is heard but not seen." ~ Leonardo da Vinci
Enjoy an autumnal eve' as you can. Copy, share, as you will.
Lest "we" forget, if you don't exercise responsibility, its Siamese
sister, freedom, will wither, as well. Sadly, now, it first needs to
be exorcized be fore its exercised. Viva la evolution!

Matutinally Yours,             james m nordlund    reality (aja)

For those interested "of or pertaining to the morning, day:
relating to or happening in the morning or in the early part of the
day (formal), (Mid-16th century, from late Latin matutinalis, from
Matuta, goddess of the dawn.)" Music is life's song accompanying the
abundance of joy's Spring. I look forward to hearing from you.  Goodbye   [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Haunted by this thread, November 18, 2004 8:11 PM

and in all likelyhood off topic. For the past four days when I came across this thread I have not forgotten it but never seem to find the time to indeed "deconstruct" it.  You are both  C2 friends and I feel compelled to respond but, my mind is just not there right now.  

Lately my interests have either been so focused on the quasi-apocalyptic state of the world, which  appears so unique in time, and a renewed interest in communication through language.

Recently I have tried to start a group on phonemic writing... resulting in technical problems that I know can be resolved. Still, distracted even further by the history of what was the first artificial language, Solresol, created in the early 19th C. by Sudre.

All of this comes back to my rage of the Ron Suskind article on Bush and Faith which appeared in The New York Times magazine: http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/101704A.shtml 

in which there is a discussion of the creation of reality, perception, and the "American Empire"...

So paradoxically it all seems to be pending...

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re: haunted by this thread November 28, 2004 8:42 AM

in light of your dismay and rage concerning the state of our beautiful country, and the topic of this group, an interesting book to read is: the bush dislexicon by mark crispin miller.  it's a great character study based on how bush communicates and it is NOT a book chortling at the buffoonery of the shrub.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 December 05, 2004 11:05 AM

If You can put a name to it . . . . . . . .   You must lay claim to it!!!!

There was a remarkable book published in the 80's which was later rubbished in a TV serialisation (by the same producers of 'Dysentry') called 'Hanta Yo'. The prologue listed some of our everyday words which the Native Americans had no translation or equivilant of and thus, no concept.

That information in itself made the book worth a look. To then read that the author, because of the desire to write an authentic account, had learned the language of the Lakota, written it in Lakota, and then translated it into English, made it unique.

The whole process took her (Ruth Beeb Hill) 25 years. I have read it 7 times and it never fails to hit the 'spot'.

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¿Perception ~ self ~ time/space = reality? December 05, 2004 12:43 PM

Thanks for the reading suggestions. 

A request, James and Leilah, in the future could you please post in bigger type face.  I know this sound like an old crochity goat but, hell age happens... wait and see, lol.

Something that I came across of late was some writing by the language philospher Strawson, with regard to "Feature Placing" (which is related to subject predicate relation) as a tool used in semantics, which has been in some way rebuffed but I still find interesting.  James I think in an odd way you touched on this when you started this thread.  Here is the quote:

"You put pressure on the idea of a particular, trying to reduce it to its ultimate logical constituents--and at the limit of pressure, it unfolds into a feature-placing fact."  

What feature placing tries to do is work with the vaguegaries of commonly held notions and put them in an objectified state so that agreement in  communication becomes a possibility.

James, your posting along with other common factors has caused me to start re-examine linguistics and its relation to the human condition which wraps us so closely to language. 

In the middle of this I am doing research on Jean Françios Sudre, and the poorly named Universal Musical Language; Solrésol.  I state poorly because the language goes beyond communication just through the diatonic scale but also has a signing system, color code, and its own glyphs. See:

 http://www.ptialaska.net/~srice/solresol/intro.htm

This thread twists!

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Well, thanx, well replied :) (corrected version, please remove previous 1) December 05, 2004 9:09 PM

Dear All,
 
Ola! Good Day All. Very cool responses and posts, thanx! I hope you and yours are well and will continue to be.  Beautiful relations, correlations, asides, that all meander in their own way, criss-crossing paths; though in parallel direction.  As for the emperor, I stated 3 decades ago that what a remocrat says is almost a 100 % opposite of the truth, yet, it was too real  to catch on; though, now people are seeing that it's so, finally.  They simply pathologically lie and call it spin, commit treason and call it patriotism; deluding the American people is the basis for almost all their delusional 'suckcess'.  Thoughts that come to mind from yours, Malcolm X's reading of the dictionary to know the mind that attempted to bind his.  Noam Chomsky's allusions to the reality that delusions and illusions are integral to sociological programming elementally, because they're built into language; yet, for his own political reasons he never said this.  As well, Suzuki's reference to "native mind", as nature, and ours in correspondingly, 'la machine'; and how their language, as is their culture would, in all probability, be so as well.  A book that can help with discerning the dichotomous, dualistic and divisive anti-relational effects of modern machinations, also in language, on the soma     The Somatic Revolution.  Thanx also for the book references, et al.  If I can't speak to you before, enjoy the holidays as best you can.  Another aside,
Of course, dispensing with the supposedly "necessitated" substitutes for
domestic economic growth and foreign policy, republican's "unending war",
is only a minimum.  Though, for any real hope to exist, I think using
evolution as a common language, as it's the thread that links every, in the
fabric of life, is a good place to start. What do you all think?  My groups
Disabled Greens News and discussion, Group home page
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledGreensNews/ ,
Abuse in Therapy, Group homepage
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AbuseinTherapy/
Diffabled, Mental Health, all related issues, advocacy, and
professionals: Invite link:
http://passport.care2.net/invite.html?g=880      Homepage:
http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/Diffabled_MentalHealth_Action
"Painting is poetry which is seen and not heard, and poetry is a
painting which is heard but not seen." ~ Leonardo da Vinci
Enjoy an autumnal eve' as you can. Copy, share, as you will.
Lest "we" forget, if you don't exercise responsibility, its
sister, freedom, will wither, as well. Sadly, now, it first needs to
be exorcized be fore its exercised. Viva la evolution!
 
Matutinally Yours,             james m nordlund    reality (aja)
 
For those interested "of or pertaining to the morning, day:
relating to or happening in the morning or in the early part of the
day (formal), (Mid-16th century, from late Latin matutinalis, from
Matuta, goddess of the dawn.)" Music is life's song accompanying the
abundance of joy's Spring. I look forward to hearing from you.  Goodbye.
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 December 06, 2004 4:05 PM

So this is 'Academese'!!!!

Must say, it lacks the pleasant prose of 'Unwinese' and produces more frownability.

For those not yet blessed with the magic tones and concepts of 'Unwinese' . . . . a taste:

The Italians I think were at their best at the time, with the romantic schoom of the Botticelli and the Venus de Milobers of course, and, er, not, nothing of any to misconstrue of ugly in these deep classical for-de-form: Leonardo da Vincers and the Preraphaelites todail which gave of the Burne-Jomes, Millade, Rossetti. And there they did for the mixing of the palettes, they had the embryo clurbers of an egg which is holding the colourbs together, woady again, and the ochre dust which they grabbered togave in Sicilian crabers, mixed this hoff for falolloping on the, er, on the, er, er, sashel itself. But the canvas was used there with the camel-hoad or hairbrushy which they dipped it and im, and also flourishing the armpegger and wore a little flat hat a bit like a beret and the short whiskerbs of course.

But, um, what about the trend? You see, when the modern school which did the interpretail with a pastiche like a Van Goggy. He would do a fine sunshine drenchy. Now he would to express in a sunflower would do a grurp of the browm, scrittle heither sigh for the petaloads in a deep yellow expressy, and in the backgrove possibly a cypress treel and a small individuholder little flower, dangle it and dangle it in the garbage.

But of course you see, today we have, we just get a pot of paintloagers and grurp it and on the floor, riding it a bicycole through it, and so the interpret for the arters of this: ooh, no, no, no, no! Far better to get a pot of paintings, severaload bottles of inkit, scrurp it huffalo-dowder the wall and stand hupside-dowdle and play a skating march. Because in this it would express the idea in the viewer, because everything is in the heart or the eye of the beholder.

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 December 06, 2004 4:12 PM

holy moly!!!  dolceanstar, have you ever read Riddly Walker by Russel Hobard? ( i think that's the authur's name)  what you just wrote reminds me so much of it.  a wonderful riddle of a book, you have to -work- to understand the writing and then it's such a joy....  for all language geeks, i recommend it highly.



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 December 06, 2004 4:37 PM

Never heard of him Celene but will search him out. Grew up on Stanly Unwin, Spike Milligan and Flann O'Brian.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
LOL December 06, 2004 9:09 PM

Dolce., Thank you for taking the piss out of me! 

  

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 December 07, 2004 10:34 AM

always a delight to burst a bubble Owen . . . . thank You for providing one  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Thanx for replies + Poetry Month, Act/Art for all, etc.. April 30, 2012 10:34 PM

D.C.,    Not academese, for I'm apt to say: the intellect cannot lead, for, the life doesn't follow, etc.; including a teig of poetree on the sudject called normal.  C.D.,    Bright and brooding, thanx for your panaplay.  O.F.,   I understand your consternation.  They say "there's nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come, I retort, except  for natural ideation.  Something to share, my latest twig of poetree, etc..  These actions on Disabled Greens News and discussion:
Poetry Month, Act/Art for all, etc..:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledGreensNews/message/9137  

This petition on change.org: Poetry Month, Act:

http://www.change.org/petitions/poetry-month-act


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