This is certainly no PETA.  Any image of any person or animal being tortured or treated wrongfully will be immediately deleted and the member will be warned.  A second warning may lead to banishment from the group.

We are not here to have a contest about how gory we can get thinking we will have an influence on others.  Fact is, sleaze like that will not be tolerated as it is against what this group stands for.  Shoving images in my face will only be a detrimant to your cause.

Thank you,

The management.

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You never replied to my comments about pics on the other thread:

"...pictures of animal abuse, whether it is in a laboratory, a slaughterhouse, or anywhere, can be very disturbing graphically.  And now I had to question why Che is so opposed to it.  I think I can guess that it is because he does not take this issue seriously and feels that the pictures are visual propaganda~ being too influential.  But it would be just as easy to describe these things.  And it is true that the truth is disturbing.  These photographs are real.  They are not any more propagandized than that list of reasons to consider before supporting experimenting on animals.  That can actually be used against the animal rights activist's point of view, but anything can be rationallized in order to justify your own idleness.

Funny you should mention it, Che, that you could post photos of concentration camps.  Do you think that they are more powerful tools at making people realize what happened there?  I guess they would, being that a picture is worth a thousand words, and especially for visual learners who don't care much for intellectual exchanges.  And I'm sorry to you who think that humans must be put on a gigantic pedestal, but the difference between your perspective and mine is that it is horrifying to see photos of what has been and still is being done to human beings in many situations, and it is horrible to see photos of what has and continues to be done to animals. 

Once, I hated to see once a photo of Oliver North holding up a picture of a poverty-stricken child, using this as support for war.  Why did it bother me?  Obviously, because I so abhorrently opposed his view.  I think that must be part of your repulsion towards the animal photos, even though it sounds as though you just didn't want to see any mean things...but we all know better.  Also, it is a good point made by Byllie that one might see more common photos offensive, like Freediver's profile photo for instance. 

Mike, as for the surgery thing, Doctor's learn most of that "good" stuff by participating in and watching real human surgeries done.  And that is part of why they are interns first.  People can learn a great deal clinically.  Oh don't get me started I don't feel like being here all day.  I will refrain from saying more about experimentation of animals for now.

Freedriver, I'm happy that you find the picture of the primate offensive.  I just wish you thought more of the animals that you don't relate to as well."

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But I will admit, Che, that I fully understand that this is your group, and you of course call the shots around here and rightfully so. I was just trying to show the difference between graphic and disturbing. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, and sometimes one could post a photo that may be upsetting, but still could not be considered graphic.

My apologies for photos above (which will be deleted very soon, and if you were lucky enough to not see them, be grateful. But it still doesn't mean it's not happening) 

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Tanya, you know what graphic and disturbing is.  I don't want any of those on this group, as I'm sure I'd get a majority from all of us hosts in this group.

I know that child molestation happens, should I show that too?  Same idea.

Billye, I have deleted both your graphic posts. 

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don't you guys have deletion powers?

Please delete anything you deem does not belong in this group.

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I see what you mean.

Funny.

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