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Above all else, the Union of Concerned Scientists promotes reasoned debate about important scientific issues and evidence, and the promotion of views founded in science and reasoned debate among the wider community.


The UCS group, one of care2’s ‘featured groups’ does the exact opposite. In doing so, it is harming the reputation of the UCS and science in general. It is controlled by a small clique of friends. The first response these people take to a disagreement is to hurl a constant stream of abuse at the person they disagree with. This has been known to go on for weeks. If this person does not cease expressing their views, the hosts ban discussion of the topic, even if it is relevant to the UCS. The hosts demand that the topic be taken elsewhere, but forbid links being posted to groups where the topics can be discussed. These rules are made up and enforced arbitrarily. If questioned about this, the host responds by openly lying about her actions, then by launching a personal attack and using threats and intimidation to prevent the person from responding to the personal criticism. Then they ban the person, and delete all the posts where the person was abused and allow people to continue saying whatever they want about the person in order to justify the ban. The group promotes the idea that scientific views should be promoted as dogma – no attempts to explain or justify, just personally attack anyone you disagree with. 


The host has openly joked about letting her friends bash people she doesn’t like. Her stated policy is to let her friends respond abusively to posts she doesn’t like, so that she can use it as an excuse to delete the post. In doing so she encourages abusive responses. Such behaviour brings shame upon the Union of Concerned Scientists and damages the reputation of science among care2 members.


I ask the care2 admin to either remove the group from the ‘featured groups’ list or remove any reference to the Union of Concerned Scientists from the group banner and home page. Specifically, the following statement is very misleading:


“This is a group for people who support the ideas, principles and goals of Union of Concerned Scientists.”


“We augment rigorous scientific analysis with innovative thinking”


The following statement is also misleading, as by encouraging personal attacks the actions of the hosts undermine rather than enforce the code of conduct:


“moderation of posts or action taken by the hosts is to maintain the Care2 Connect Code of Conduct”


Posted: Wednesday November 16, 2005, 2:11 am
     

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LadyandCodys Sanctuary (278)
Wednesday November 16, 2005, 3:07 am
I will never understand why people have to act this way. Why do they have this need to be in total control rather than working together as a group for the common good...I am a member of Union of Concerned Scientists, but not here on Care 2. I am a member of a number of groups here, but I will admit that I rarely post directly to the groups as I spend most of my time here at Care2 signing petitions and writing congress and govenors, so really have a lot of time to go to each individual group...I go when I can and post when I can, but I feel that I am needed on the petition line as that is the only way to make Washington listen to the American people and the same with writing Congress and Senators...

I sure hope that one day people will get off their control issues and start banning together to get some real work done...All this bickering back and forth solves absolutely nothing, if anything it takes precious time away from more important things that we could be doing to help save the planet, animals, etc....

Thank you for posting this piece of information...Now that I have voiced my opinion, I hope we can get back to more serious issues at hand.....

Sarvo Pama (3081)
Wednesday November 16, 2005, 3:35 am
They are so fixated on their view as absolutely true and correct that they become hysterical if anyone even suggests that there might be an alternative explanation.

Freediver OzPolitic com (212)
Wednesday November 16, 2005, 3:27 pm
They just deleted another thread that I started on October 6 this year.

Past Member (0)
Friday November 18, 2005, 8:32 pm
I'm not a member of that group so I'll go by what you stated. If that is what the group is doing then it certainly should not be allowed and removing it from the Featured Groups would be a good idea. I signed the petition.

Rebecca F. (509)
Tuesday January 24, 2006, 4:17 pm
Freediver, are you talking about me? If so, you are not being truthful. please clarify.

Freediver OzPolitic com (212)
Tuesday January 24, 2006, 4:25 pm
No, that is about Sally.
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