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Jul 26, 2006

If you can see where the UN observers are with Google Earth, then can't Israeli forces see exactly where they are so there would not be any accidental bombing of UN personnel? And if, it was not the Israeli's who did the bombing, then won't they have photos of who did?

Spy movie stuff? No. Today's technology can and does make it possible. See for yourself in story and photo from CQ. Who's CQ? Why is the Congressional Quarterly. Not a bad source. Read on and think who's right - the UN Secretary General or the Israeli Defence Force's public relations officer. Source: CQ.com. ,http://public.cq.com/public/20060721_homeland.html>
Jeff Stein, National Security Editor, CQ Staff -- CQ HOMELAND SECURITY – SPYTALK July 22, 2006 – 12:29 a.m. The White House Has Its Reasons for Tip-Toeing Past Iran’s Role in Lebanon
Excerpt from the article: “Lots of photographs exist” of the Iranian supply operations, Reynolds says. The U.N. observers “are in close proximity to Hezbollah, and the IDF [Israeli Defense Forces] are well aware of the location of rockets.”

“The Israelis are very hesitant to reveal photographic electro-optical evidence from Mt. Hermon,” Reynolds says, “because it would reveal to the Syrians some Israeli [surveillance] capabilities and the Syrians would then use that knowledge to counter them.”

Washington, Reynolds says, resists “revealing them for the same reason”— so as not to disclose the quality of its technical collection capabilities, which include satellites and ground-station intercepts of Iranian and Syrian electronic communications.

But pretty good pictures of the Hezbollah positions are available to anybody with a laptop, via GoogleEarth.com.

Reynolds even e-mailed me a couple of photos of the Lebanon-Israel-Syria border region that he had downloaded from GoogleEarth and marked up around the Hezbollah sites.

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Posted: Wednesday July 26, 2006, 10:48 am
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Mehr Iranmehr (717)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 11:43 am
Dear Ned
Thanks for the message .You are right. thanks for good information.
Mehr

Amin A. (401)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 12:13 pm
good question Ned ;)

Katherine S. (162)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 2:35 pm
Thank you for posting this. People need to know about things like this

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 3:05 pm
Don't forget the Red Cross Ambulance they bombed the previous day!

John Reeves (32)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 3:49 pm
When we get buried so deep in hatred that we adopt the "Ends-Justify-The-Means" attitude...We then have taken one step closer to the end of Human Kind. i.e.,The Jewish people suffered gravely at the hands of Hitler...Now, we receive on-going reports of the Human-Atrocities perpetrated by Israel's soldiers/Government: Where will it all end? All humans are God's Children; No matter what faith you claim: And God Cannot be pleased with Israel over these Atrocities....

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 7:06 pm
Such valuable information is becoming far too easily accessed these days. That being said, why should anyone wonder at the increase in terrorist activity ? Ridiculous.

Mtnfox F. (26)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 11:14 pm
I hold my opinion till I get the real story. The media is treating us like mushrooms, keeping us in dark and feeding us manure. As a Vietnam Vet. I saw how the media turn the public opinion through lie after lie. They are doing it again. The Media never gives a two points of the story. All I can tell you before you get trapped by misleading stories, or the same story on 5 different stations with the same point, do some alternative reading. Start thinking for you self, you end up liking your self better. Do be lead like sheep. We all grow up with what are parent think, then in school we have the teacher trying to influence us. Its about time you take all those good teaching, and now challenge them by getting experience and ask why. Have an open mind. Ask question so you can be will informed. It easy living in the United States and the biggest problem you have in what you are going to watch on television tonight after work. While people live everyday in fear. "All animals are created equal" Just some more than others" Read it some time and think what Mr Orwell was telling us.

Mtnfox F. (26)
Wednesday July 26, 2006, 11:37 pm
Yes we know the the UN observer are there, but what are they doing. For four year their duties was to make sure that Lebanon was in peace. Isreal troop were out, the Hezbollah were disband and no weapons. This was all agreed four years ago on a United Nation peace accord. WHAT WAS THE UNITED NATION OBSERVER doing in the past four year. See no evil, hear no evil, say no evil and you have what we have today.

Jessie Cross (295)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 4:07 am
The Unifil observers were there and EVERYBODY knew they did not have a mandate to disarm Hezbollah - nor the means to do it. So now, is this a good reason to bomb them and kill them? What kind of thinking is that? I agree that NOBODY should be bombed - not on the Israeli side nor on the Lebanese side. I believe even some Israelis are beginning to feel uncomfortable with what is happening. It is a massacre and (just like the war in Iraq) seems to have been taken on without any clear thinking/strategy. The result is many dead Israeli soldiers and some civilians and almost 25% of the Lebanese population forced to flee and many, many deaths. WHAT THE HELL HAS ANYONE GAINED??
And while everyone is pre-occupied with the war in Lebanon, in Gaza people continue to die. Yes, I also wish Hamas would stop firing the damned rockets but then I also want Israel to withdraw from all occupied territories.

Jacalyn E. (81)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 7:08 am
wow very interesting. With all the anti-UN rhetoric on right wing sites, and from pundits, and considering the close ties of the PNAC and the right wing of Israel -I in my heart beleive it was most likely deliberate - a sign- a warning.

Judy E. (402)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 10:06 am
This whole thing is just so sad. So many innocents are lost.

Brendan K. (137)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 11:40 am
Would you use a sledgehammer to kill a fly on the wall - that is just like what Israel is doing to Hezbollah. They do not want Hezbollah to lead the Palestinian nation just as they did not want Yasser Arafat before that. The fact is, they do not want a Palestinian state.

Neither do they want a UN peacekeeping force there - that is why they bombed the UN site. You cannot shell a site by accident fourteen times. The arrogance of Israel is to think the rest of the world is stupid. What they want is a NATO force because they control the US and that way they also control NATO. Israel must not be allowed to get away with this - they should be held accountable and charged with war crimes. But they will escape because of the protection from Bush and Blair.

Madalena Lobaotello (448)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 2:07 pm
Thank you for posting this.

Past Member (0)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 2:39 pm
Check out Digital Globe, Longmont, Colorado at digitalglobe.com
for pictures from the sky via satellites they call Birds.
BettyM.

Past Member (0)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 2:46 pm
Additionally, anyone with a computer (or laptop) in any country in the world can go to this country's (USA) digital imaging sites and see the pictures--some are in real time via satellite. So to answer your probably rhetorical question is yes, "they" can also see the ground (map) you referenced above.

Michelle Jordan (17)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 5:32 pm
Brendan K. It's easy for you to pontificate about such things as you are not living right next door to Hezbollah. I wouldn't want Hez. to rule anything right next door to my country either!And especially when they want it annhilated as Irans leader (supporter of Hez.)has stated! I agree with Jessie Cross it has spiraled out of control & innocents are being killed again!

Ned Hamson (49)
Thursday July 27, 2006, 8:08 pm
My, my, my. thank you all for your comments and ideas. Jesse -- right on - no one should be bombed. We are all sons and daughters of God. I do wait and hold judgement but could not wait to at least ask the question since so many people seem eager today to believe those who dump on the UN when they figure they don't need them and play up to them when they do. Different song, same dance... of the millions upon millions pledged for Darfur releif and peace force, when the cameras and papers are gone, not much money has shown up. Someone mentioned George Orwell. Everything he wrote about in his books has already come to pass and many don't seem to care that Bush and his league are more equal than others.
Hezbollah should not be rocketing innocents in Israel - that puts my friends there in harm's way. Hammas should not be doing it either and neither should the Israeli's since they put my Lebanonese and Palestinian colleages and friends in harm's way. I don't ever want to turn on the BBC, the TV or see on GoogleEarth that Moshe, Ali or Tafeedah turned the wrong corner at the wrong time. So I ask questions and hope other do as well until they stop the blood letting. Ned

Eleanor B. (909)
Friday July 28, 2006, 2:30 am
Thanks so much, Ned. I would just like to say that the Independent columnist, Robert Fisk, who has lived in Lebanon for 30 years, is a well-known and much-respected journalist with an expertise in Middle Eastern affairs that is unequalled by anyone in the UK or USA - so when he writes, you can be assured it is not propaganda and lies. I do understand how the media can be used to distort and to brainwash but his articles do not come into that category. I too abhor all killing. It is sad to watch a nation destroy its neighbour. This will perpetuate hatred in the region. Negotiation is the only ultimate answer. But with the financial and military support of the USA, Israel unfortunately feels free to commit this atrocity in order to terrorise and bomb their enemies into submission. And yes, I do believe too that they deliberately killed those UN observers. They were contacted 14 times by the UN according to an article in yesterday's Guardian - so how can anyone say it was unintentional? Israel has as much respect for the the UN as the USA does.

Luisa L. (116)
Friday July 28, 2006, 6:46 am
Very informative. Thank you Ned !

Samson Lawrence (261)
Saturday July 29, 2006, 2:41 am
I dont think we can tackle terrorism using only satellite pictures but Israel proved u can kill innocent people with every avaialble technology. The UN needs to be dismantled and reorganised with its headquarters outside US or Europe and no veto power to anyone. Do not expect people with wide powers to be sensible. Lets only hope all the stupidity ends soon and we human beings are not put to more shame. All I can say is it greatly hurts to know all the tears and blood the innocent shed, seems to go waste, time amd again. I have no words fit enough to express my deep resent for the satans of voilence, they are one bunch of despicables...

kindle G. (1557)
Tuesday August 1, 2006, 1:29 am
thank you and providing this informations and comments here will be a widely spread educational for those that are unaware still. thank you again. kindle

Ned Hamson (49)
Wednesday August 2, 2006, 8:42 am
Carol N noted that she could see her own home using this technology. It reminded me about a joke of Steven Wright's. "Every so often, I like to stick my head out the window, look up, and smile for a satellite picture."
He told it then as an improbable joke but now it's the truth. So, when you dash out in the morning to get the newspaper look up and smile, offer up a wave or other hand signal, or not - grin, Ned

Past Member (0)
Tuesday August 8, 2006, 4:45 pm
Thanks for posting this.
I watch CNN and listen to NPR, and thus far I am of the oppinion that Israel is using too much force. However, I also question how Hezbollah got all that firepower. I fear there will be those who point the finger at "terrorists", and make this conflict another reason to continue the policies of the current administration. In one report, unsure where I heard this, the weapons were described as Russian and Chinese made. This is complex situation, only made worse, I think by those who try to force simplistic solutions.

Ned Hamson (49)
Wednesday August 9, 2006, 6:41 pm
Joe's Comment: Thanks Joe. H L Mencken, a writer for the Baltimore Sun of long ago said that "For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat and wrong." and then, Albert Einstein says, "When the solution is simple, God is answering." An answer given once on how to live life was very simple, "Love one another, as I have loved you." We tend to make doing that very complicated, highly qualified, filled with conditions, and then out of fear - turn it inside out. We pray that some day, not too far off, people there will begin to say - "Enough!" Let's live together in this small land and love our children and each other.

Elizabeth Curtis (1)
Thursday August 10, 2006, 4:09 pm
Hi Ned.your right,now what is going too happen .?aug.11,2006 They would have killed thousands if they had got there hands on those planes.

Elizabeth Goldstone (50)
Tuesday August 22, 2006, 3:05 am
22.8.2006 Hi Ned !!!
Israel want Peace and your problem
is Hesballa (Persian) and also Sirya!!!
To understand what happens here I invited you to come to Israel and learnimg about Terror.
Hessbolla and Hammas don`t want Peace and
Israel have the right to make all is needed to
protect itself.


Ned Hamson (49)
Tuesday August 22, 2006, 8:03 am
Elizabeth: I agree that Hezbolah, Hamas, Syria and Iran are all putting Israelis and themselves in harm's way. I also think that Israel has the means to have been much more careful and could have avoided harming peacekeepers, and non-supporters of Hammas or Hezbolah. I have been to Israel twice and have people I care very much about in Tel Aviv suburbs, Beruit, and the West Bank. I believe that war is not the answer to the question, "How do I love others as God loves me." I believe that people have the right to defend themselves but that tactics used by Israel, Hamas, and Hezbolah go way beyond self-defense.

Elizabeth Goldstone (50)
Tuesday August 22, 2006, 9:40 am
22.8.06 Hi Ned !!!
Thank you !!!
Now is the time to Israel go to make peace...
and I belive Lebanon is the first to come!!!
I only sorry about the Irak war don`t have
end... SHALOM !!!

Joe Ribaudo (0)
Monday August 28, 2006, 12:03 am
perhaps,it wasnt accidental,maybe there is a meaning,to these,so called accidents,only a week ago,several U.N. guards,were bombed,by isreali air strikes,now we have another incident,involving
U.N. personal,by one of the worlds,most capable
information,gathers....coincidence!

Maira Sun (34)
Saturday March 13, 2010, 5:31 am
Merci!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday July 20, 2010, 12:02 pm
Thanks for posting this, read and see how this can be confusing... Like you said, you or I could see it, but Israel couldn't?

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