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Sep 24, 2008

IHaralambie Athes's penetrating analysis and dissection of our anthropocentrism, humanism, consumerism, speciesism, and a number of other malignant -isms that are inflicting egregious unnecessary suffering on billions of non-human animals and causing ecocide.

Athes is an environmental and animal rights activist from Romania and a friend of Steve Best. Feel free to re-publish it or link to it if you have a blog or site.....

http://www.bestcyrano.org/THOMASPAINE/?p=995

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Posted: Wednesday September 24, 2008, 12:56 pm
Tags: death earth animal culture species the of rights liberation extinction cruelty capitalism speciesism suffering consumerism corporatism savage Capitalists raping souless [add/edit tags]

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RC deWinter (418)
Wednesday September 24, 2008, 4:07 pm
Thanks, Lorraine!

. (0)
Wednesday September 24, 2008, 5:07 pm
A fact unrecognised by the most insightful analyist of capitalism Karl Marx,was the brutality of capitalism towards animals .Marx was dismissive of animal rights campaigners,scornfully judging them "more concerned about animals than humans".Marx missed a trick there..and should have linked his economic analysis,with the suffering of animals.Capitalism is remorseless in its pursuit of profits,as workers are bled to a machine,then so are animals.Capitalism creates the conditions wherin the oppresses become oppressors,the bitten ,bite others..the "working man" the immigrant,women the gay,the animals.That is because his consciousness is on his survival,and the desperation to hold a little power.A conjoiing of animal rights supporters,gays,workers (so called middle class,and manual working class),women workers etc is essential for an overthrow of naked capitalism.Unlike Marx,I beleive the market can work for us,but only when it is restrained and socialised by democracy..market socialism is the best of all worlds..rights and dignity must come before profits everytime though.No animal should ever suffer for profit..or so called "freedom"..be reasonable demand the impossible,as the Situationists of 68 said.

Roy M. (339)
Wednesday September 24, 2008, 10:03 pm
Thank You:>)

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 25, 2008, 8:51 am
Glad you saw that site Lozz! Worded in detail.

Every day the tragedies continue, lands are being overridden, animals are killed for the false idea of food, animals as well as in the wild are taken, tortured and killed for the false idea of medicines.
Toxic wastes, unrecyclable waste we buy from shops made from industries are chucked into holes in grounds dug up for the false idea we are recycling.
Laws, leglisations, rulerships, governments,electives, elected people all promise things we think we know only to our realization know nothing about at all.

The human rights fall for it every time, they rally against the sods in control then a new promise is made by another name and every single time they fall for it! WHY?!

Because they still dont know the whole deal, not everything is exposed in their eyes, they think its only a certain party or government when in fact its all of them and all controlled not by the money makers no no, not the Bilderbers or the Rockefeller side of things no.
Its the ones at the top. The untouchable pawn placers.

Theres only so much a lie can hide and that lie is already exposed little by little people are begining to see they are responsible for their roles in this whole mess.

But people dont seem to want to bother they think let someone else deal with it. That was from someone I chatted to, he is definetaly in to what I talk about but he feels powerless because he doesnt want to get involved, he thinks; play along with it.

WHY?

Because he is trapped he doesnt know what to do. He does not know the world outside of the box.

But what if I want to see outside of the box, what if I want to go back to nature? What if do want the trees to grow back?
What if I do say no to animal exploitation and human exploitation?
BECAUSE IM AGAINST IT ALL!

SOD the governed way of life, SOD big brothers way of life because its just not working for me, I care too much to go down and literally let the sh*t hit the fan.

I will not be fooled by false promises of voting or organisations, I will not listen to the crap that comes out of Obama's mouth. I know his role, I know what he and the rest of them are there for and thats to con people into believing him that he stands for change, that he is supposed to be the answer to animal rights.
RUBBISH!
He never stood for animal rights he stands for animal welfare but not animal rights and I have seen what he has suggested to the people and non of it ever mentions the abolition of animal exploitation, not a single time have I ever read a law that says no to animal exploitation.

Yet a few suckers are falling for his trick, WHY?

Because those people yet again believe in laws, they believe him just because he sings the words animal rights when clearly he not.

If any of those suckers had any sense they would read up those laws he has stated he will follow as well as what he said himself. Its not hard to read up what he says it only takes a hour or 2 you'll see what I mean. If anyone still disagrees then look up the past animal welfare laws and they are the same damn thing. Nothing changes because they dont want it to change.

We are all on our own, there is no saviour but our selves we are the change, THEY are for further ruin.

Its all about money with industries, all of them are based on money making the ones at the top know this, they know the people in them do not care for anything but to earn a living at the expense of killing other lives animals as well as humans.

Bronwyn H. (228)
Friday September 26, 2008, 8:24 pm
Thanks Lorraine.

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