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Mar 27, 2008
Fitna - The Movie

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Yes, the Movie is highly Islamophobic. Fully on par with any propaganda movie made by Josef Goebbles. The quoted Imams, Muslims and Media articles in the Movie are fully on par with any Extreme Fundamentalist Xian or Jewish Clergy, believers and what is written about them in the media. I could easily substitute every quote from the Quran given in the movie with similar or worse from both Torah and the Xian Scriptures. I could make a Xianophobic or Judeophobic Movie - simple and easy. That has been done, it will be done in the future. Nothing new there, my friends.The Quran, as the Bible or Torah, is subject to interpretation. If one choose to read it literally one will find all kinds of horrible things in it, as can be done with the Bible or Torah. But why should we judge Islam any different than we judge Judaism or Xianism? Why should we deem the Fundamentalists of Judaism and Xianism less dangerous than Islam? Why should we read the Quran any different than we read the Bible or Torah? We seem to have forgotten that Extreme Fundamentalist readings of Torah and the Bible have lead to, and will continue to lead to the same kind of violence as that described in "Fitna" -

Christian terrorism
Jewish Terrorism

Timothy McVeigh

Meir Kahane


To mention a few we all know about.

We don't claim Xianism or Catholicism as a violent religion because of Timothy McVeigh did or Judaism as a religion of terror based on what Meir Kahane did. Therefore it's absurd to claim that Islam to be a religion of terror based on 9/11 or other violent attacks committed by people professing to be Muslims.
Judge the Extremist Interpretation of the Quran, not the Quran itself or all the Muslims in the world. SoB

Comments:

Connie Says:
March 28, 2008 at 5:44 am

It wasn’t an extremist interpretation. It is what the Qur’an says. Study it.

Henric C. Jensen Says:
March 28, 2008 at 8:30 am

It wasn’t an extremist interpretation. It is what the Qur’an says.

Actually, it is an extremist interpretation. The Quran, just as the Bible and Torah has to be read in a historic-cultural context to make sense in our modern society. That some don’t do that isn’t the Quran’s fault, nor is it Islam’s fault.

As I say above, I can easily make a “Strife” Move that is based on accounts of Xian or Jewish Terrorism from Modern Times, using texts from the Bible and Torah that justify such Terrorism against unbelievers, gays, women, etc. It’s so easy to pick out a few verses and connect them to things one doesn’t like or agree with and then paint an image of an entire religion and all its adherents as bloodthirsty savages.

The questions you and I have an obligation to ask ourselves
1. is such a conclusion reasonable?
2. what is the motive of the creator of the movie?
3. what in the Holy Text contradicts the conclusion arrived at in a 15 minute Movie?
4. why are we listening more to what a non-Muslim is saying about Islam than to the majority of Muslims who are not Extremists?

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Mar 23, 2008

Geert Wilders A website that a Dutch right-wing politician was planning to use to release a film expected to be fiercely critical of Islam has been suspended.

The US hosting service, Network Solutions, said it was investigating complaints that it may have breached guidelines on hate language.

Dutch politician Geert Wilders says the 15-minute film describes Islam as "the enemy of freedom".

The planned release has sparked angry protests in many Muslim countries.

The Dutch government has disassociated itself from Mr Wilders' views, but there are fears the film will spark protests similar to those that followed the publication in Denmark two years ago of cartoons seen as offensive to Muslims.

The film has already been condemned by several Muslim countries, including Iran and Pakistan.

Hate messages

Mr Wilders' film is entitled Fitna, an Arabic word used to describe strife or discord, usually religious.

Mr Wilders wrote a commentary in a Dutch newspaper on Saturday.

"The film is not so much about Muslims as about the Koran and Islam. The Islamic ideology has as its utmost goal the destruction of what is most dear to us, our freedom," he wrote in De Volkskrant.

Geert Wilders has ignored pleas to shelve his project

"Fitna is the last warning for the West. The fight for freedom has only just begun," he said.

He had been using Network Solutions to promote the film.

But on Sunday, Network Solutions said it had received a number of complaints that were under investigation.

It said the site was suspended until it was established whether the content of the site violated Network Solutions' terms of acceptable use.

They include "material that is obscene, defamatory, libellous, unlawful, harassing, abusive... hate propaganda" and "profane, indecent or otherwise objectionable material of any kind or nature".

Mr Wilders has had police protection since Dutch director Theo van Gogh was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004.

I don't like it when people are censored, not even in the case of hate speech, on the other hand - I don't want hate speech around of any kind. I have always felt that education is better than censorship.

I can also see the hypocrisy in this - this specific site is shut down, because it might offend Muslims, but sites like JewWatch.com and Ziopedia.org are not shut down, and yet they ARE offensive to Jewish people. I guess that's what you get when there's a risk you might be bombed unless you comply.

I mean that last - I really do. The Radical Extremist element, in this case within Islam, is holding the world hostage through the use of violent protests against Freedom of Expression. I don't care that Geert Wilders is a Right-Wing Extremist, he has a right to share his opinion - when he does, I promise I will be there and object to it in a civil manner, but I DO NOT accept Civil and Human Rights to be held hostage at gun point so a few Extremists are not offended.

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