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Feb 7, 2009

 

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                          Lucifer-by Gustave Dore  

The word "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 presents a minor problem to mainstream Christianity. It becomes a much larger problem to Bible literalists, and becomes a huge obstacle for the claims of Mormonism. John J. Robinson in A Pilgrim's Path, pp. 47-48 explains:

"Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

Listen to Isaiah - Chapter 14 (King James Version) from blueletterbible.org.

The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language? To find the answer, I consulted a scholar at the library of the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati. What Hebrew name, I asked, was Satan given in this chapter of Isaiah, which describes the angel who fell to become the ruler of hell?

The answer was a surprise. In the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference. The Hebrew scholar could only speculate that some early Christian scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name "Lucifer."

Why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King").            To read more here is the link

http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/11nov/lucifer.html

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Jan 31, 2009

Hello, welcome to this garden. I am just like you learning. I am not a sheep nor do I have a sheep mental. I have spent time with pagans an satanist as well. I find that Luciferianism is not so advocated, I would like to learn more an maybe learn with you. So please feel free to join in we are all important to each other, tell us a little about you an your path along with what you may have to offer this group.

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Posted: Jan 31, 2009 3:30pm
Jan 30, 2009

Hello, welcome to this garden. I am just like you learning. I am not a sheep nor do I have a sheep mental. I have spent time with pagans an satanist as well. I find that Luciferianism is not so advocated, I would like to learn more an maybe learn with you. So please feel free to join in we are all important to each other, tell us a little about you an your path along with what you may have to offer this group.

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Jan 29, 2009

Knowledge = Power = Wisdom

You must seek yearningly for all.

You must learn an then you stand tall.

 

 

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Jan 27, 2009

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