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Bush Executive Order: Criminalizing the Antiwar Movement visit site
US Politics & Gov't (tags: bushadministration, bush, constitution, americans, freedoms, government, iraq )

Pamela Ly 
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"Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" provides the President with the authority to confiscate the assets of whoever opposes the US led war. Under this executive order, opposing the war becomes an illegal act.
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The ONLY answer to this situation, is to MUTINY FOR PEACE.
MUTINY FOR PEACE.
You may be noticing, that CONGRESS IS TAKING NO ACTION;
AND WILL TAKE NO ACTION.
So DON'T BE SURPRISED if NOTHING happens there.
You are DELUDING yourselves if you think the answer lies with Congress.
NOBLE EFFORT, guys, thank you, and I am doing it too.
Knowing that IT HAS NO CHANCE OF WORKING.

The ANSWER LIES WITH THE ARMY.
Bush/Cheney are COUNTING on the Army, to carry out
and ENFORCE their Dictatorial Decrees. With GUNS.
But, the Army are OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS.
The Army is NOT ROBOTS, NOT ALIENS FROM OUTER SPACE.
 
The Army must BREAK THE HABIT OF BLIND OBEDIENCE,
subservience to a Commander-in-Chief who is
NOT WORTHY OF ANYONE'S OBEDIENCE OR RESPECT.
Bush is COUNTING ON the Army. If the Army will shoot, on Bush's orders,
an Iraqi, the same Army will shoot, on Bush's orders, YOU.
MUTINY FOR PEACE is the ONLY solution.

I probably will be one of those who
"has my property confiscated" for saying this.
But, WE MUST LET THE ARMY KNOW, THAT WE SUPPORT THEM 
WHEN THEY MUTINY FOR PEACE.

We have ALREADY lost our Democratic Rights. Congress is AFRAID.
The next {s}elections WON'T BE HELD; unless the Repug thugs can STEAL THEM.

MUTINY FOR PEACE. MUTINY FOR PEACE.
MUTINY FOR PEACE. MUTINY FOR PEACE.
Tell the Troops the Truth of what is happening here.
Then the Troops will know what to do.
If the Troops lose the Will to fight, THERE IS NO POWER ON EARTH
THAT CAN MAKE THEM FIGHT
. No threat, and no punishment can make
Troops fight, if they lose the Will to fight.

MUTINY FOR PEACE. Believe me, it's our ONLY HOPE.
BMutiny ThemIDefy

 Friday August 3, 2007, 9:35 am
"In substance, under this executive order, opposing the war becomes an illegal act.

The Executive Order criminalizes the antiwar movement. It is intended to "blocking property" of US citizens and organizations actively involved in the peace movement. It allows the Department of Defense to interfere in financial affairs and instruct the Treasury to "block the property" and/or confiscate/ freeze the assets of "Certain Persons" involved in antiwar activities. It targets those "Certain Persons" in America, including civil society organizations, who oppose the Bush Administration's "peace and stability" program in Iraq, characterized, in plain English, by an illegal occupation and the continued killing of innocent civilians.

The Executive Order also targets those "Certain Persons" who are "undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction", or who, again in plain English, are opposed to the confiscation and privatization of Iraq's oil resources, on behalf of the Anglo-American oil giants.

The order is also intended for anybody who opposes Bush's program of "political reform in Iraq", in other words, who questions the legitimacy of an Iraqi "government" installed by the occupation forces.

Moreover, those persons or nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), who provide bona fide humanitarian aid to Iraqi civilians, and who are not approved by the US Military or its lackeys in the US sponsored Iraqi puppet government are also liable to have their financial assets confiscated.

The executive order violates the First, Fourth and Fifth Amendments of the US Constitution. It repeals one of the fundamental tenets of US democracy, which is the right to free expression and dissent. The order has not been the object of discussion in the US Congress. So far, it has not been addressed by the US antiwar movement, in terms of a formal statement.

Apart from a bland Associated Press wire report, which presents the executive order as "an authority to use financial sanctions", there has been no media coverage or commentary of a presidential decision which strikes at the heart of the US Constitution.. "
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THIS ORDER, AS YOU MAY NOTICE, DOES MORE THAN MERELY
CRIMINALIZE THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT.
IT SEEKS TO LEGITIMATIZE THE SEIZURE OF IRAQ'S
OIL RESOURCES BY BUSH/CHENEY/HALLIBURTON;
AN OUTRIGHT THEFT NO BETTER THAN A BURGLARY.

The U.S. Troops who are assisting their Commander-in-THIEF
with this BURGLARY and OUTRIGHT THEFT
, are actually, if
they ONLY KNEW IT
, NO BETTER THAN HIT MEN AND HIT
WOMEN FOR THE MAFIA, FOR A KLEPTOCRACY OUT-OF-CONTROL.

THE TROOPS ABSOLUTELY MUST BE TOLD THE TRUTH OF
WHAT THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN. THEY MUST. THEY MUST
BE TOLD THE TRUTH, AND ALL THE TRUTH.
Then the Troops themselves will know what to do with this information.

MUTINY FOR PEACE.
That is the ONLY way to END THIS LONG NIGHTMARE,
which is getting WORSE.
Aside from the deaths and their OWN injuries and
psychological disabilities, WHAT SORT OF WORLD
WILL THE TROOPS BE COMING HOME TO???

Unless THEY THEMSELVES STOP FIGHTING in Iraq
and MUTINY FOR PEACE????????????? 
        

"Silence, they say, is the voice of complicity.
But silence is impossible.
Silence screams.
Silence is a message,
just as doing nothing is an act.
Let who you are ring out & resonate
in every word & every deed.
Yes, become who you are.
There's no sidestepping your own being
or your own responsibility.
What you do is who you are.
You are your own comeuppance.
You become your own message.
You are the message."

In the Spirit of Crazy Horse
---Leonard Peltier
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The troops must actually be very near to Mutiny now, for this Executive Order, which reflects Bush's FEAR, to come at this time.
If your country has any Troops in Iraq or Afghanistan, this applies equally to YOUR country's troops.
If you are near any American bases in any country, in Europe, Asia, or wherever, YOU CAN TALK TO THE TROOPS THERE.
If you have family or friends in the Military, YOU ARE IN AN ESPECIALLY GOOD POSITION TO TALK TO THE TROOPS; TO TELL THE TROOPS THE TRUTH.
BMT
[The TRUTH is, that they are being HIT MEN AND HIT WOMEN FOR BUSH/CHENEY.
That is the ONLY TRUTH. Many Troops more-than-suspect-it ALREADY. It should NOT BE THAT DIFFICULT, in many cases, to TALK TO THE TROOPS. There are also means like Posters where the troops can see them, Leaflets and Flyers, Signs in demos, and GRAFFITI!]
[A really good opportunity for Americans, is when TROOPS COME HOME ON LEAVE BEFORE RE-DEPLOYMENT. TELL THE TROOPS WHY IT IS IN THE INTERESTS OF THEIR COUNTRY, THEIR COMMUNITIES, THEIR FAMILIES, AND EVEN OF THEIR ARMY BUDDIES, TO
NOT RE-DEPLOY!!! It is the Troops' PATRIOTIC DUTY TO NOT RE-DEPLOY.]




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Posted: Aug 3, 2007 1:01pm
May 9, 2007
An answer to "Where Have All The Leaders Gone?"
book by L.I. cited by Jennie B.
Dear Jennie:

Cindy Sheehan is a leader.
Lt. Ehren Watada is a leader {officer who refused to deploy to Iraq; refused to lead men into harm's way in a pointless war}
Medea Benjamin {of Code Pink} is a leader
Keith Olbermann is a leader {on the air}
David Griffin is a leader {theologian who questions official 9/11 story}

They are leaders just like Martin Luther King Jr, Mahatma Gandhi, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, and others, were leaders.

Oh, and so is Dennis Kucinich, a leader. Mustn't forget him!

It is just that the press and media, controlled NOW by JUST A COUPLE OF HUGE CONGLOMERATES, is MUCH LESS INDEPENDENT THAN IT USED TO BE; so we hardly ever hear any NEWS of these LEADERS!!! {Except on blogs!}
And, the SYSTEM IS SO CORRUPT, that ONLY CORRUPT PEOPLE GET "ELECTED", BY FALSE MEANS. That is why we have the thoroly corrupt leadership we do.

There is a theory, that these false "leaders", WANT CHAOS -- that it serves their REAL purposes best! and I tend to agree!!!! Behind the smokescreen of us all struggling for our very lives, and and the other smokescreen of "incompetence" and "stupidity", they may be VERY CLEVERLY MANIPULATING US to serve their own ends of POWER and complete CONTROL of Earth's limited resources! While we are fighting among ourselves! I think this is quite "logical", from their point-of-view!

To GET RID OF THIS CORRUPT MIS-LEADERSHIP, we will -- ALL HAVE TO DO SOME NEW THINKING, AND GET OUT OF OUR "COMFORT ZONES".
You know the story of the frog, sitting in water which is GRADUALLY heated to the cooking point -- doesn't jump out or realize anything until it's too late. Well, WE ARE STARTING TO FEEL THE HEAT NOW. But NOT JUMPING YET!!!!!!

Do you understand what I mean by "comfort zone"????? Sitting around griping, is STILL "sitting in the pot", sitting in the COMFORT ZONE. Waiting for the 2008 elections, is STILL sitting in the comfort zone. Blathering on about "Revolution", as some do here on the Internet, IS STILL SITTING IN THE COMFORT ZONE WHILE THE WATER GETS HOTTER AND EVER HOTTER. Blather, blather, blather, blather, blather!

We are each going to have to be our OWN moral leader.

Lt. Ehren Watada, got out of HIS comfort zone! Risks jail, the end of his desired career, curses, beatings perhaps even. His family, also, which supports him 101%, takes risks in doing so.
We have to do what HURTS. Not pay taxes maybe, boycott something we would otherwise buy, do what is FORBIDDEN, commit Civil Disobedience, break UNJUST laws like Rosa Parks did, "trespass" like people in my State are doing to protest military and naval shipping.
Maybe get teargassed, have to go to court, or actually get injured. Leave our families for awhile.
In other words, SACRIFICE and TAKE RISKS and even risk LIFE ITSELF, if absolutely necessary! Be COMMITTED. Not blather on & on, whether about "Comes Da Ravolution" or "Peace & Love" or whatever!

Lee Iacocca is in a bind. He is a rich guy who is a part of the Establishment; even tho he puts VERY WELL what is WRONG, he is still not going to risk his comfort zone or his place in the Establishment to make a difference! At least that's what I think!

I have said it before, and I will say it again and again and again.
THE TROOPS HAVE TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF LT WATADA AND REFUSE LIKE HE DID, TO DEPLOY TO IRAQ.
So what if they risk jail? and curses and beatings? even their lives?
THAT IS STILL FAR BETTER THAN DYING OR BEING MAIMED FOR LIFE IN A DIS-HONORABLE CAUSE. THERE IS NO HONOR, THERE IS NO GLORY, IN THE CAUSE THAT BUSH IS SENDING THEM TO DIE FOR.
As veterans of the Viet Nam war who RESISTED that war have PROVED, THERE IS LIFE AFTER RESISTANCE. Many of them, altho jailed and persecuted, here many years afterwards HAVE MADE SUCCESSFUL CAREERS and are HONORED by their communities!

So, THAT is what I mean, one form of ''GETTING OUT OF ONE'S COMFORT ZONE".
I myself was ARRESTED and jailed {for a few hours only!} for chaining myself to railroad tracks protesting the Viet Nam war! But, another protestor at another protest, this one in California not Washington State, HAD BOTH HIS LEGS CUT OFF BY A TRAIN THAT WOULD NOT STOP. I have met this brave hero! Is he sorry he did what he did? NOT AT ALL.

I can't tell anyone else what to do! The papers take it on themselves to SQUELCH any new "Movement" or "Leaders"! The Civil Rights Movement was HELPED by television! Now the media moguls know better!!! The media print practically NO news about IMPEACHMENT, or 9/11 QUESTIONING!!! Or, for that matter, THE RESISTANCE WHICH I KNOW FOR A CERTAIN FACT, DOES EXIST WITHIN THE ARMY IN IRAQ.

The very LEAST that anybody can do, to THINK IN A NEW WAY AND REFUSE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE "COMFORT ZONE", is to SUPPORT THE AWOL, CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR, WHISTLEBLOWER {on things like torture}, AND REFUSING TO DEPLOY, TROOPS. I have a button that says, "Support our AWOL troops"!
THERE WILL BE MORE RESISTANCE WITHIN THE ARMY, IF THEY KNOW THAT WE THE CIVILIANS ARE BEHIND THEM IN THEIR RESISTANCE.
Because of the structure of the Army, it would be better if TROOPS DESERTED OR REFUSED TO OBEY ILLEGAL ORDERS, AS A UNIT. There IS PRECEDENT FOR THIS.

Well, I'm not one to tell other people they have to go to jail! BUT, IT SEEMS WE COULD ALL BREAK THRU THE CURTAIN OF MILITARY CENSORSHIP AND TELL OUR TROOPS, THRU FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA, THAT WE SUPPORT THEIR RESISTANCE AND DO NOT SUPPORT THEIR FIGHTING AND KILLING!!!!!! It seems that is the very LEAST we ALL CAN DO!!!!

I guess I'll maybe make a blog out of this! Yes they don't seem to work!
You have my absolute permission, if you want to pass this on, to do so! In any form! I STAND ABSOLUTELY BEHIND EVERY WORD!!!!
And, Jennie, if you want to continue the discussion, fine, as I find time to do so!
BMutiny T

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Oct 19, 2006

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SINCE WHEN ARE MUSLIMS "THE ENEMY"?????????? WHETHER SHIA OR SUNNI??????????

The United States INVADED Iraq, UNASKED, ILLEGALLY AND IMMORALLY -- A WAR CRIME BY ANY DEFINITION.
SINCE WHEN WERE THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ, WHATEVER THEIR RELIGION, "THE ENEMY"???????
WHAT THE HECK ARE WE DOING IN IRAQ, ANYWAY????????
BEFORE we illegally and immorally and unasked, invaded and occupied Iraq, SUNNIS AND SHIA LIVED TOGETHER IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS, IN HARMONY.
IT IS THE CIA AND BRITISH MI5 that is responsible for much of the mosque bombings and civilian bombings in Iraq -- ON PURPOSE TO FOMENT A CIVIL WAR. "Divide and Conquer", is the idea.
THE BRITISH GENERAL IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, WHO SAYS THEIR PRESENCE IS ONLY MAKING THINGS MUCH WORSE.
I saw on the news yesterday, SYRIA has offered to be a peacekeeper in Iraq -- THEY KNOW THE REGION AND THE CULTURE. But, Syria will only offer its help to Iraq IF AND WHEN THE U.S. LEAVES.

EDDIE, AND ALL TROOPS, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SHOULD LEAVE IRAQ IMMEDIATELY -- TODAY IF POSSIBLE. YOU AND ALL TROOPS SHOULD INSIST ON IT. THERE WAS NEVER, EVER THE SLIGHTEST EXCUSE FOR THE U.S. TO BE IN IRAQ AT ALL. IT WAS ALL ENTIRELY BASED ON LIES BY THE BUSH MIS-ADMINISTRATION, AND NOTHING ELSE. AND NOTHING ELSE BUT PURE LIES.
There NEVER, EVER was a "reason" for the U.S. to INVADE Iraq, a NON-AGGRESSIVE country that POSED NO THREAT WHATSOEVER TO THE U.S.
There NEVER, EVER, is one single solitary reason for the U.S. to OCCUPY Iraq, to STAY -- WHERE IT IS EVERY DAY MAKING THE TRAGIC SITUATION WORSE. The U.S. is COMPLETELY UNABLE TO PROTECT ONE SINGLE LIFE OF ONE IRAQI CITIZEN by being there.

ALL HONOR TO ALL U.S. TROOPS WHO HAVE GONE AWOL AND REFUSED TO DEPLOY TO IRAQ: such as Lt. Ehren Watada and Suzanne Swift. MAY THERE SOON BE MANY, MANY MORE TROOPS WHO FOLLOW THEIR COURAGEOUS EXAMPLE AND HELP TO END THIS SENSELESS WAR THE U.S. SHOULD NEVER HAVE STARTED.
It was NOT the Sunnis or the Shia who started this war!!!!!! NEVER FORGET THAT!!!!!!!!

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[Eddie is a soldier evidently in Iraq now, who posted a comment. HE AND ALL SOLDIERS SHOULD REFUSE TO FIGHT FOR BUSH'S LIES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE LIES.]


This article merely ASSUMES that Muslims, Sunnis and Shia are, somehow, to be considered "the Enemy". THE REASON THEY ARE SHOOTING AT US, IS, BECAUSE WE ARE THERE. Just like the British General said. IF WE WERE NOT THERE, THEY WOULD NOT BE SHOOTING AT US. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO PUT OUR TROOPS IN HARM'S WAY, in Iraq -- or anywhere else outside our borders, for that matter.

THE U.S. GOVT AND BUSH MIS-ADMINISTRATION HAVE SUCKERED US, YES, SUCKERED AMERICAN TROOPS, OUR MEN AND WOMEN, INTO SUPPORTING AN IMPERIALIST WAR FOR OIL THAT IS IN ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE'S INTEREST EXCEPT THE MEGA-RICH OIL BARONS AND THEIR LOBBYISTS.

IF YOU ARE FOR PEACE, YOU MUST BE FOR WITHDRAWING FROM IRAQ IMMEDIATELY. "PEACE" does NOT mean "winning the war -- and THEN peace". THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN -- THAT IS NOT IN THE BUSH MIS-ADMINISTRATION'S PLANS. THEY PLAN FOR PERPETUAL WAR ON THE REST OF THE WORLD, FOR CONTROL OF THE WORLD'S RESOURCES. {Water, etc., as well as oil.}

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Jan 26, 2006

I support the ORGANIZED RESISTANCE AGAINST THE WAR, THAT DOES EXIST WITHIN THE ARMY ITSELF. It is the BEST HOPE of ending the war; JUST AS the Viet Nam War was ended, not only by the MASSIVE RESISTANCE IN THE STREETS, at home; but, by the ORGANIZED {and un-organized} RESISTANCE WITHIN THE ARMY IN VIET NAM. The UNTOLD story of this Resistance within the Army in Viet Nam, is told in the film, "Sir! No Sir!"; which you can find out how to access, from the Care2 Veterans for Peace group.

I support THOSE COURAGEOUS SOLDIERS WHO DISOBEY DIRECT ORDERS THEY ARE GIVEN; those orders that are a-moral, or that make no sense, or are criminal. Like members of the 343rd Quartermasters, who REFUSED TO GO on what they termed a "suicide mission", delivering tainted, useless fuel. And there are probably many others, that we are unlikely to know about, who in small or large ways, SHOW THEIR RESISTANCE. Men and women who act like, to go back to Viet Nam again, that brave hero who was responsible for rescuing a number of Vietnamese civilians, women and children, from the infamous My Lai Massacre by American troops, and bringing them to safety.

I support THOSE COURAGEOUS SOLDIERS WHO REFUSE TO CARRY OUT ORDERS TO TORTURE, OR TO INTERROGATE TORTURE VICTIMS. I can actually say, that I am proud to HAVE KNOWN one of these individuals. So I can say that they exist, and PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE. 

I support THOSE COURAGEOUS SOLDIERS, WHO BLOW THE WHISTLE WHEN THEY KNOW OF TORTURE GOING ON, OR THE MURDER OF CIVILIANS OR HELPLESS PRISONERS, WHO WRITE ABOUT IT AND MAY DOCUMENT THIS WITH PHOTOS OR FILMS WHICH THEY RELEASE TO THE PRESS OR TO THE PEOPLE BACK HOME. These courageous soldiers face beatings and even death at the hands of those they "blew the whistle on", their "comrades". And courts-martial, defaming, demoting in rank, all sorts of penalties. Yet, a COURAGEOUS FEW, do it anyway.

I believe that the people at home, can SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE TROOPS COMING HOME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, not ONLY by marching in the streets, altho that's well and good; but, also, even better, by

SHOWING IN A POSITIVE AND VOCAL MANNER, OUR UNQUALIFIED UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT, FOR THE RESISTANCE IN THE MILITARY; THE DISOBEDIENCE TO DIRECT ORDERS; THE LAYING DOWN OF WEAPONS AND REFUSAL TO FIGHT; THE ESCAPE FROM THE ARMY TO SYMPATHIZERS IN EUROPE, OR IN CANADA -- DESERTION.

Every soldier who has a Human Life in the sights of his/her gun; or in his/her bomb sights; IS AT THAT VERY MOMENT, NECESSARILY MAKING A MORAL DECISION; a moral decision, moreover, that WILL AFFECT MAYBE HUNDREDS OF LIVES, BESIDES HIS OR HER OWN. The lives of the trigger-puller's family and friends; the lives of the persons dealt death to, their families and friends; and on and on and on, like ripples in a pond when a rock is thrown in.

Too bad if they aren't trained in making Moral Decisions in the schools. They are making MORAL DECISIONS, right ones or wrong ones, ANYWAY.

WE here can BEST help, by SUPPORTING THOSE TROOPS WHO ARE MAKING DIFFICULT MORAL DECISIONS; and tell them in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that we do NOT support the Moral Decisions that the Bush regime has been making all along, for them.

I say, "Support Our Troops; Help 'Em Go AWOL". With ALL that, "Going AWOL", implies.

 
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Dec 29, 2005
U.S. TROOPS IN IRAQ MUTINY, END WAR.

Don't you wish this was the headline in your newspaper tomorrow?

Well, it's a "planted story", just like the ones Bush had put in the Iraq newspapers.

us troops in iraq mutiny, end war

If you believe in it, please pass it on!


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Dec 3, 2005
The above title, GOING AWOL, some "how to's", is ironic -- partly. This is ACTUALLY a reply to a John A., who objected to my removing his lengthy comment. I had good reasons to. I believe his comments were canned, for one thing. Some Bush apologist spewing hate-filled propaganda for the consumption of the fearful and unthinking masses. I have seen it before on the Internet; and maybe you readers of this blog have too. Let's do something about it! expose this hate-filled nonsense for what it really is.

My comments on this essay follow. I am making a separate blog on it, as well as putting it under comments. I want EVERYONE possible to see this -- and let your friends know!

TOGETHER, WE CAN END THIS WAR. YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I removed two comments from my blog. One of them spoke of @#$%^& Liberals. I choose not to have people come here to read my blog and be insulted.

The other comment I removed, which I believe was yours, was perhaps not written by you and in any case has been circulating around the Internet for some time; I have seen it before. I believe this lengthy essay, whoever it was written by, contributes absolutely nothing to any discussion of Iraq. Its tone is hysterical, hate-filled and xenophobic; a typical piece of PROPAGANDA, nothing else. I am old enough to have seen similar anti-Japanese junk circulated during WWII. It states as I recall, that Muslims want to "kill all infidels all over the world"; and that "Muslim countries have contributed absolutely nothing to world culture". Both of these statements, among others, are of course patently untrue. I hope they are not YOUR statements; but, you should not be passing such hate-filled garbage on.

Such hate-garbage, I repeat, has NO place whatsoever in ANY discussion. In fact, I invite readers of my blog, if they have come across this particular piece {which you will recognize} of War Propaganda on the Internet, to let others know and to comment on it HERE.

As far as your saying that "going AWOL does not need to be addressed"; Going AWOL most CERTAINLY needs to be addressed!!!! Soldiers are Going AWOL RIGHT NOW!!!!! According to the Military itself, thousands have; but their figures are unreliable and no doubt under-represent the actual numbers; the figure some MONTHS ago stood at over 5,000, that's the latest and best we can get from the Military. Undoubtedly the figure NOW is larger.

There exist ORGANIZATIONS for spiriting soldiers to Canada. {See the Vancouver Sun, November of last year.} The HARPER'S MAGAZINE of last May, did a COVER ARTICLE on the "increasing problem" in the military. They all but gave instuctions! without crossing the line into illegality! I HAVE PERSONALLY TALKED TO SOLDIERS IN THE NATIONAL GUARD, WHO WERE CONSIDERING THAT AN OPTION. So, yes, this question URGENTLY needs to be addressed. AS DOES THE RELATED ONE: are we at home going to "SUPPORT OUR TROOPS", AND SUPPORT THOSE OF OUR TROOPS WHO GO AWOL, AND THOSE OF OUR TROOPS WHO RESIST ILLEGAL ORDERS????????

MOST soldiers who go AWOL, of course, do so in their home territory; either before being deployed; or when home on leave. {Altho others do so on bases in Germany, etc.} A FEW, a VERY FEW, have actually left their units in Iraq and, with the help of Iraqi citizens who are GLAD to get rid of the occupiers, attempted to make their way to Syria or another country. See, the Muslims DON'T "want to kill us all"! {Besides the fact that many Iraqis are in fact Christians -- bet you didn't know that! or members of other minority faiths within the culture.}

The Iraqi Insurgency has in fact issued a call for American troops to lay down their arms; and stated it would HELP them across the border if they wished to leave the military.

Since the Iraqi Insurgency consists of many different groups, some with poor communications with the others, it is impossible to determine how "safe" such a course of action would actually be. However, apparently SOME soldiers were convinced enough that it was, to actually go that route. They were caught by their own military before crossing the border. It is impossible to say, whether any actually MADE IT. The military would not want that information to be known! And, if any made it, they would keep quiet until the end of the Occupation; as they would not want reprisals taken by the U.S. against any friendly Iraqi civilians who had helped them.

You may see, that the first comment on my blog is supportive of the war, which I do not in ANY way support; but I see nothing objectionable about that comment, no cursing, no hate-filled hysterical nonsensical propaganda.

We committed anti-war supporters will not accept the "you don't condone free speech!" card played by war supporters and Bush supporters, of whatever political stripe they say they are. It is an attempt to bully, and to silence and "shame" our dissent. It just won't wash.


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Dear xxxxxx: Believe me, NOBODY is going to make the life-changing decision to desert or to go AWOL, because a silly ol' lady in a big hat "TELLS" them to! I would be nuts to think that is what I am doing!

I am, in fact, trying to describe to the best of my knowledge WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON AMONG OUR TROOPS OVERSEAS. My sources are, Veterans' organizations against the war, and the stories of returning vets; my source for a while, of a soldier actually IN Iraq; and, well, call it my "intuition" and READING BETWEEN THE LINES of some of our daily news stories. Plus, the BBC news and the Alternative Press. They, together, paint quite a DIFFERENT picture than the American Public in general is getting from our kept press!!!

Our troops are actually braver and more moral, in many instances, than even the Peace Movt gives them credit for being. Soldiers during the Viet Nam war actually organized to resist being sent out to fight; and committed many large and small acts of resistance and non-compliance with orders, on their own. Nobody "told" them to do it -- no "outside agitators"! and, THE VERY SAME THING IS HAPPENING WITH OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ -- believe me, I have my sources -- MUCH, MUCH MORE than the public is allowed to hear about!!!!!

Example; I wrote an anti-war song, about the 343rd Quartermasters' refusal to follow orders to go on what they termed a "suicide mission" -- and was DELIGHTED NO END to hear that my song had actually been sung -- by soldiers IN IRAQ! They were willing to risk the punishment they got, for singing it! {doing extra pushups}. But, I had NO IDEA WHEN I WROTE THAT SONG that it was going to be sung there, in Iraq! {You may see my song at the group, Protest Songs. A good group, you should join! My song is titled "Troops Refuse To Go On Mission". It is verbatim an actual newspaper headline that I copied for the first line.}
"Troops Refuse To Go On Mission", Fa la la la la, la la la la.
It's a Suicide Expedition, Fa la la la la, la la la la.    Etc.    I just couldn't resist that!

Well, so I believe, that since the troops are resisting and organizing ANYWAY -- we should take that cliche' slogan seriously, for once, and REALLY SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!!!! in their RESISTANCE!!!!!! So that they KNOW we support them, and get real moral support for those risks they are bravely taking on OUR behalf, as well as theirs and their families! That soldiers get shot for resisting, is a MYTH, a self-serving one perpetrated by the Army itself, of course. NOBODY has been shot for desertion or dis-obeying an order, since Private Eddie Slovik at the end of WWII.

Isn't the Brig better than getting shot at, and shooting and killing some innocent IRAQI? just trying to defend his country and family??????
THIS IS A PROFOUND DECISION THAT EACH AND EVERY SOLDIER WILL HAVE TO MAKE AT SOME TIME, FOR HIMSELF OR FOR HERSELF.
And, we definitely ought to, we have the MORAL OBLIGATION TO, HELP that soldier make the decision that helps US, that helps end the war, that helps the Pacifist cause, and, that ultimately helps their country the most!!!!!!!!!
The life of a soldier, is definitely NOT without risks!!! NEVER without risks!!!! Making a decision to not fight, is not an "additional" risk; it is an "INSTEAD OF" risk.
Which is the best; to take risks in a JUST Cause; or, in an UNJUST cause????? The whole thing, boils down to exactly THAT.



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Feb
15
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New Petition! Speak out against Time-Warner Merger with Comcast! Let your opinion be know before your bill goes up and your programming choices dwindle.\\r\\n\\r\\nUrge DOJ and FCC to Not Allow Merger of Time-Warner and Comcast\\r\\nhttp://www.t hepetitionsi...
Feb
13
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New Petition! Speak out against Time-Warner Merger with Comcast! Let your opinion be know before your bill goes up and your programming choices dwindle.\\r\\n\\r\\nUrge DOJ and FCC to Not Allow Merger of Time-Warner and Comcast\\r\\nhttp://www.t hepetitionsi...
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\\nIn a meeting of the EU General Affairs Council nineteen states opposed the approval of  GM Maize Pioneer 1507, developed jointly by DuPont and Dow Chemica l, while five supported it and four abstained from any view, EU officials s...
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Please sign this petition asking shelters to open before temperatures hit life-threatening levels: http://www.thepetitionsit e.co
Feb
12
by Just C.
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 \\r\\n\\r\\n\\r\\nW hy this is important\\r\\nAs a community comprised of members actively using the tools provided by this site to accomplish needed improvements to various aspects of all life (animal, human, environmental), we, the undersigned, are her...
Feb
11
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\r\nHow to spread the news\r\n02/11/14\r\n\r\nT his is really awfull, i did write many hosst announcements, but they dissapeared, luckely
Feb
10
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\\nDear friends! \\r\\nLet us please help these three innocent 6, 8 and 10-year-old children to get justice. \\r\\nThei stepfather abused them all and raped the youngest one.  \\r\\nThere is a very little hope he will get punished, since the ...
Feb
6
by Dave C.
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\\njust found this group and in case no one in it has been to care2 recently they now let you donate to save rainforest land using butterfly credits...just one hundred credits to donate.....saving rainforests is one of the most important things we can ...
Jan
28
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\\nSad that this peition has not gotten many signatures, I thought it would do well because anyone can participate.\\r\\nPlease sign if you have not done so yet. And if you have, thank you so much for all you do!!!  The dog pictured in the petition ...
Jan
24
by Ys A.
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\\nCoretta Scott King: “We have done what we can to reveal the truth, and we now urge you as members of the media, and we call upon elected officials, and other persons of influence to do what they can to share the revelation of this case to the ...