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Jun 24, 2007
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DAVID HONISH WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN! Don't believe for a SECOND that his brother did it. They are going to be SORRY they messed with a Care2 member!

EVERYBODY SHOULD SAVE ANY RELEVANT COMMUNICATION THEY HAD FROM DAVID HONISH, TO BE USED AS EVIDENCE IN COURT. David told Care2 members he was being threatened! AND NOT BY HIS BROTHER. This is EVIDENCE that could be IMPORTANT!!!!!!! SAVE ANYTHING! 
Teresa sent me a link of a harassment David wrote about in May, 2006. THAT IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT NEEDS TO BE SAVED! Put it somewhere WHERE THEY CAN'T MAKE IT "DISAPPEAR". 

PEOPLE HAVE FOUND, THAT IMPORTANT STUFF ON THE INTERNET, HAS A WAY OF "DISAPPEARING". SO, PLEASE SAVE THINGS LIKE THIS ON A DISC AND PUT IN A SECURE PLACE! DO IT NOW!!!
IF IT IS IN SEVERAL PLACES, IF SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE IT, IT WILL BE EASIER TO GET PAST THE BASTARDS THAT KILLED DAVID! EVEN IF THEY RAID OUR HOMES!
MAKE NO MISTAKE AT ALL, THIS WAS A POLITICAL ASSASSINATION, BY THE POWERS THAT FEEL THREATENED BY THE GROWING VETERANS' MOVEMENT, OF WHICH DAVID WAS SUCH A PROMINENT AND WONDERFUL PART.

ALSO, SAVE THE EARLY NEWS ACCOUNTS!!! AS HAS BEEN PROVED WITH 9/11 INFORMATION, EARLY NEWS ACCOUNTS ARE OFTEN CHANGED TO REFLECT WHAT THOSE IN CHARGE WANT THEM TO SAY!!!
I THINK THAT THE NEWS OF THE DISCOVERY OF DAVID'S BODY IN THE TRUCK, FOR EXAMPLE, WILL BE CHANGED TO SAY "THERE WERE SIGNS OF A STRUGGLE". IN THE EARLY NEWS ACCOUNTS THAT I AND OTHERS SENT AROUND CARE2, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF "SIGNS OF A STRUGGLE"!!!
JUST OF THE SINGLE SHOT-TO-THE-HEAD, EXECUTION-STYLE, MAFIA-STYLE.
If the two brothers had struggled, it would not look like that!!!
THEY ARE GOING TO GET A GUN WITH BOTH SETS OF FINGERPRINTS ON IT, AND CALL THAT THE "MURDER WEAPON". BOTH BROTHERS WERE CLOSE AND BOTH WERE GUN NUTS -- WELL, CALL IT BY A MORE RESPECTABLE TERM -- AND SO IT WOULD BE THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD, TO FIND SOME GUN THAT HAD BOTH BROTHERS' FINGERPRINTS ON IT!!!
IF MARK, DAVID'S BROTHER, "COMMITS SUICIDE" IN JAIL, OR MEETS WITH SOME "ACCIDENT"........ HE WILL BE FRAMED FOR THE MURDER, AND THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION!
THEY ARE GOING TO SAY: THERE WAS A STRUGGLE FOR THE GUN {THE ONE WITH BOTH SETS OF FINGERPRINTS ON IT!}, IT WENT OFF, SHOT DAVID NEATLY IN {BACK OF?} THE HEAD, AND MARK PANICKED AND FLED. THEN THEY PICKED UP MARK.
MAYBE THEY CAN EVEN FORCE A CONFESSION OUT OF HIM! BY GIVING HIM A PLEA-BARGAIN AND THREATS OF THE DEATH PENALTY!

IF YOU HAVE ANY PRIVATE COMMUNICATION FROM DAVID, PLEASE SAVE IT!
IF YOU HAVE HAD TELEPHONE MESSAGES FROM DAVID, PLEASE SAVE IF POSSIBLE, OR WRITE DOWN FROM MEMORY AS EXACTLY AS YOU CAN, AND PUT IT IN A SAFE PLACE!
I AM NO TECHIE; BUT I AM GIVEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN TRASHED MESSAGES, CAN OFTEN BE RETRIEVED FROM A COMPUTER. PLEASE SOMEONE ADVISE HOW TO DO THIS.
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO PEOPLE DAVID MAY HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH, WHO ARE NOT ON MY FRIENDS LIST.
PLEASE POST IN GROUPS DAVID WAS IN.

SOMEONE -- NOT ME! -- SHOULD FIND MARK'S LAWYER AND INFORM HIM THAT CARE2 MEMBERS ARE WILLING TO HELP. AND ARE IN POSSESSION OF EVIDENCE! MAYBE THIS SHOULD BE RELEASED TO THE PRESS! SOMEONE WHO IS VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE LAW, MORE THAN MYSELF, SHOULD HANDLE THIS. BE THE LIASON. OF COURSE, MARK'S LAWYER MAY BE A CORRUPT PART OF THE SYSTEM! SOMEONE KNOWLEDGEABLE SHOULD HANDLE THIS. MAYBE SEE HOW THE TRIAL GOES, AND SPRING THIS IF IT SEEMS TO BE RAILROADING MARK..........DEPENDS ALSO ON HOW MUCH AND WHAT WE COLLECTIVELY HAVE AS EVIDENCE.
BUT, WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW, IS COLLECT THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE ON OUR NM AND GROUPS!!!!!!! AND PHONE CALLS, AND WHATEVER. AND LINKS. SAVED AND STASHED. DON'T LET IT SLIP INTO OBLIVION!!!

COULD YOU ASK CARE2 TO KEEP DAVID'S PROFILE AS STILL A MEMBER? AS A MEMORIAL TO ONE OF CARE2'S BEST CITIZENS? DO OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THIS IDEA?
I AM ALSO THINKING OF STARTING A GROUP IN DAVID'S HONOR. MORE LATER.

AFTER 9/11, THERE WERE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO SAW SOMETHING FISHY IN WHAT WE WERE TOLD. AFTER THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION, AND THE OTHER ASSASSINATIONS OF THAT ERA, BOBBY KENNEDY, MALCOLM X, ETC., THERE WERE PEOPLE RIGHT AWAY WHO THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH THE STORY.
BUT, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INTERNET DEVELOPED LIKE TODAY: SO EVERYONE KEPT THEIR IDEAS TO THEMSELVES AND LACK OF PUBLIC COMMUNICATION ALLOWED THE LIES TO PREVAIL!
WELL, NOT ANY MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BMUTINY THEM I DEFY

Well, the following article sure showed that David was outspoken, not intimidated, and could make enemies!
Since the events at the mall happened over a year ago, May 30, 2006, I don't think it was the mall cop that shot David.
I don't think it was his brother, either!
David was shot "execution-style", with one shot to the head. In his truck, with the motor still running. On the side of the highway.
He could have been pulled over, by someone DRESSED in a cop's uniform, I am thinking. It could have been a Black Op. One of Bush's special people, DISGUISED as a traffic cop.
If he and his brother were "fighting", he wouldn't have been hit once in the head, neatly! David and his brother knew all about handling guns! In that part of Texas, all adult males do! They weren't careless teenagers!
Also, David had written an email to a Peace Activist, regarding him and his brother opening a shooting range! just before he was shot!
David told a person on Care2, that he was afraid for his life! and that the police were harassing him! Now, he wasn't talking about his brother when he said he had had threats on his life!
If David's brother dies in jail, by "suicide" or whatever, we will KNOW FOR SURE that David's brother Mark, did NOT shoot David!
They are trying to cover up that David was shot BECAUSE HE WAS A VETERAN SPEAKING UP; and the Bushies are MORE AFRAID OF VETERANS THAN OF ANYBODY ELSE. Because RESISTANCE IN THE MILITARY, WILL MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE IRAQ ILLEGAL OCCUPATION TO CONTINUE!
And because of the veterans, that Resistance is GROWING!
BMutiny T
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http://www.williambowles.info/gispecial/2006/0506/310506/gi_4e31_310506.html

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Posted: Jun 24, 2007 7:50pm
May 9, 2007
An answer to "Where Have All The Leaders Gone?"
book by L.I. cited by Jennie B.
Dear Jennie:

Cindy Sheehan is a leader.
Lt. Ehren Watada is a leader {officer who refused to deploy to Iraq; refused to lead men into harm's way in a pointless war}
Medea Benjamin {of Code Pink} is a leader
Keith Olbermann is a leader {on the air}
David Griffin is a leader {theologian who questions official 9/11 story}

They are leaders just like Martin Luther King Jr, Mahatma Gandhi, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X, and others, were leaders.

Oh, and so is Dennis Kucinich, a leader. Mustn't forget him!

It is just that the press and media, controlled NOW by JUST A COUPLE OF HUGE CONGLOMERATES, is MUCH LESS INDEPENDENT THAN IT USED TO BE; so we hardly ever hear any NEWS of these LEADERS!!! {Except on blogs!}
And, the SYSTEM IS SO CORRUPT, that ONLY CORRUPT PEOPLE GET "ELECTED", BY FALSE MEANS. That is why we have the thoroly corrupt leadership we do.

There is a theory, that these false "leaders", WANT CHAOS -- that it serves their REAL purposes best! and I tend to agree!!!! Behind the smokescreen of us all struggling for our very lives, and and the other smokescreen of "incompetence" and "stupidity", they may be VERY CLEVERLY MANIPULATING US to serve their own ends of POWER and complete CONTROL of Earth's limited resources! While we are fighting among ourselves! I think this is quite "logical", from their point-of-view!

To GET RID OF THIS CORRUPT MIS-LEADERSHIP, we will -- ALL HAVE TO DO SOME NEW THINKING, AND GET OUT OF OUR "COMFORT ZONES".
You know the story of the frog, sitting in water which is GRADUALLY heated to the cooking point -- doesn't jump out or realize anything until it's too late. Well, WE ARE STARTING TO FEEL THE HEAT NOW. But NOT JUMPING YET!!!!!!

Do you understand what I mean by "comfort zone"????? Sitting around griping, is STILL "sitting in the pot", sitting in the COMFORT ZONE. Waiting for the 2008 elections, is STILL sitting in the comfort zone. Blathering on about "Revolution", as some do here on the Internet, IS STILL SITTING IN THE COMFORT ZONE WHILE THE WATER GETS HOTTER AND EVER HOTTER. Blather, blather, blather, blather, blather!

We are each going to have to be our OWN moral leader.

Lt. Ehren Watada, got out of HIS comfort zone! Risks jail, the end of his desired career, curses, beatings perhaps even. His family, also, which supports him 101%, takes risks in doing so.
We have to do what HURTS. Not pay taxes maybe, boycott something we would otherwise buy, do what is FORBIDDEN, commit Civil Disobedience, break UNJUST laws like Rosa Parks did, "trespass" like people in my State are doing to protest military and naval shipping.
Maybe get teargassed, have to go to court, or actually get injured. Leave our families for awhile.
In other words, SACRIFICE and TAKE RISKS and even risk LIFE ITSELF, if absolutely necessary! Be COMMITTED. Not blather on & on, whether about "Comes Da Ravolution" or "Peace & Love" or whatever!

Lee Iacocca is in a bind. He is a rich guy who is a part of the Establishment; even tho he puts VERY WELL what is WRONG, he is still not going to risk his comfort zone or his place in the Establishment to make a difference! At least that's what I think!

I have said it before, and I will say it again and again and again.
THE TROOPS HAVE TO FOLLOW THE EXAMPLE OF LT WATADA AND REFUSE LIKE HE DID, TO DEPLOY TO IRAQ.
So what if they risk jail? and curses and beatings? even their lives?
THAT IS STILL FAR BETTER THAN DYING OR BEING MAIMED FOR LIFE IN A DIS-HONORABLE CAUSE. THERE IS NO HONOR, THERE IS NO GLORY, IN THE CAUSE THAT BUSH IS SENDING THEM TO DIE FOR.
As veterans of the Viet Nam war who RESISTED that war have PROVED, THERE IS LIFE AFTER RESISTANCE. Many of them, altho jailed and persecuted, here many years afterwards HAVE MADE SUCCESSFUL CAREERS and are HONORED by their communities!

So, THAT is what I mean, one form of ''GETTING OUT OF ONE'S COMFORT ZONE".
I myself was ARRESTED and jailed {for a few hours only!} for chaining myself to railroad tracks protesting the Viet Nam war! But, another protestor at another protest, this one in California not Washington State, HAD BOTH HIS LEGS CUT OFF BY A TRAIN THAT WOULD NOT STOP. I have met this brave hero! Is he sorry he did what he did? NOT AT ALL.

I can't tell anyone else what to do! The papers take it on themselves to SQUELCH any new "Movement" or "Leaders"! The Civil Rights Movement was HELPED by television! Now the media moguls know better!!! The media print practically NO news about IMPEACHMENT, or 9/11 QUESTIONING!!! Or, for that matter, THE RESISTANCE WHICH I KNOW FOR A CERTAIN FACT, DOES EXIST WITHIN THE ARMY IN IRAQ.

The very LEAST that anybody can do, to THINK IN A NEW WAY AND REFUSE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE "COMFORT ZONE", is to SUPPORT THE AWOL, CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR, WHISTLEBLOWER {on things like torture}, AND REFUSING TO DEPLOY, TROOPS. I have a button that says, "Support our AWOL troops"!
THERE WILL BE MORE RESISTANCE WITHIN THE ARMY, IF THEY KNOW THAT WE THE CIVILIANS ARE BEHIND THEM IN THEIR RESISTANCE.
Because of the structure of the Army, it would be better if TROOPS DESERTED OR REFUSED TO OBEY ILLEGAL ORDERS, AS A UNIT. There IS PRECEDENT FOR THIS.

Well, I'm not one to tell other people they have to go to jail! BUT, IT SEEMS WE COULD ALL BREAK THRU THE CURTAIN OF MILITARY CENSORSHIP AND TELL OUR TROOPS, THRU FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS AND THE ALTERNATIVE MEDIA, THAT WE SUPPORT THEIR RESISTANCE AND DO NOT SUPPORT THEIR FIGHTING AND KILLING!!!!!! It seems that is the very LEAST we ALL CAN DO!!!!

I guess I'll maybe make a blog out of this! Yes they don't seem to work!
You have my absolute permission, if you want to pass this on, to do so! In any form! I STAND ABSOLUTELY BEHIND EVERY WORD!!!!
And, Jennie, if you want to continue the discussion, fine, as I find time to do so!
BMutiny T

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