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10 Boy Scout Staffers Quit In Solidarity With Fired Gay Scout

10 Boy Scout Staffers Quit In Solidarity With Fired Gay Scout


Tim Griffin was fired from a Boy Scout camp near Sacramento, California, reportedly because he was not following uniform regulations. This week 10 staff members quit the camp in retaliation to Griffin’s firing. Officials claim that the 22-year-old was fired because he refused to follow clothing and Scout regulations, but critics of the firing maintain that the young Scout was fired for being openly gay.

The firing comes in the wake of an explosive announcement last week by the Boy Scouts of America that they will stand behind their ban on openly gay scouts and leaders in the organization. The decision to maintain the ban resulted in a wide range of reactions to the policy, from open dismay to conservative support.

Critics of the policy have been defecting from the BSA, with some Scout groups continuing their support for gay rights and inclusion, like a large group in Minnesota. Still, Griffin feels he was picked out for his sexuality.

Program director Glenn Goddard states to the Mercury News, “What it came down to was his failure to comply with management regarding a uniform issue. We gave him plenty of warnings.” But many say that Griffin was criticized for painted fingernails, an earrings and mannerisms that supposedly went against protocol but were clearly tied to criticism of his sexuality.

The BSA is known for its strict religious and conservative policies. Scouts are asked to pledge they will be, “physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.” The phrase and the official policy means that many people feel excluded and judged in the organization.

Yet, many young men feel that they found amazing role models and pillars of support in the BSA. The 10 staffers that quit the camp illustrate the pockets of solidarity and caring that exist throughout camps and troops across the country. The anti-gay policy, although an official blanket policy, has caused divisions in belief and policy across the board.

Many young men feel they have topped out in an organization that will never accept them as whole people. Conservative anchors of the BSA on the other hand feel that they are standing by their “high standards,” as Randy Thomasson, an advocate for “family values,” points out to the Mercury News. Last week’s firing left Griffin feeling saddened about the BSA, when he was told he did not reflect the Scout spirit. Griffin was also the longest serving Scout at the camp before officials ousted him.


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4:56PM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

Bill said "Most pedophiles are Homosexual"

Bill you are 100% wrong and a complete bigot. The fact that you would actually state a blatant lie like that is unforgivable. Homosexuality has NOTHING to do with pedophilia. Pedophiles are generally unconcerned with the sex of their victim and the vast majority purport to be heterosexual in their non-pedophilic activities.

With people like you leading the Boy Scouts young men are lucky to be banned from the organization.

2:45PM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

The Boy Scouts are also a federally protected monopoly. The only way you can back this up is that they have a registered Trademark and it cannot be infringed upon as any other US Corporation or entity.
This is what the Website says about the Boy Scouts and the HUD funds, However I believe HUD funds are a loan not a grant. The website says, "Ben points out that a Boy Scout group in Alaska is about to get nearly $1,000,000 worth of federal funds from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development."
I look at the words in this website that say, "about to get nearly" as being they have not received any funds at this late date.
Your idea of Sponsorship is that someone is giving money that is a stupid mythology. Most Sponsors all they do is provide a place to meet and they also get benefits from the troop, such as buildings, help in programs and sometime payments for space in which the Boy Scouts meet.

Both HUD and White House websites have rules that say no grant-receiving group can discriminate against anyone who wants to use the service. So far I have not found any Unit getting a grant or grants.
The military has always supported Boy Scouts as the young man turned out by the Boy Scouts makes a very competent US Service Member.
The idea that a pedophile is not a Homosexual is wrong. Most pedophiles are Homosexual, however not all Homosexuals are Pedophiles.
God Bless the Boy Scouts of America

11:55AM PDT on Sep 15, 2012


Since the BSA had early and enduring ties with the YMCA, a firmly Protestant organization, the Catholic church forbade their boys to join. The Catholics accepted the BSA in 1913, but troops would be Catholic only under Catholic adult leadership. Later that year, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints affiliated their Mutual Improvement Association with the BSA with similar restrictions....

It makes for an interesting snapshot of discrimination and bigotry in America's history, where over time the same mentalities trade up the targets of their thought processes like , well teenagers did boy bands.

11:51AM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

The original handbook used a lot of material from Baden-Powell's handbook. The comments on loyalty to employers concerned the labor unions– the Industrial Workers of the World in Portland, Oregon protested loudly during the 1912 tour. These comments were removed from the 1911 edition and West made much of the labor positions of the rival American Boy Scouts.

Protests over the inclusion of African Americans arose early in the program. When Boyce departed, he turned the Boy Scout corporation over to the members of the Executive Board with the stipulation that the Boy Scouts would not discriminate on the basis of race or creed. The BSA established the position that African Americans should be included, but that local communities should follow the same policies that they followed in the school systems. Thus, much of the American South as well as many major northern communities had segregated programs with "colored troops" until the late 1940s. Some troops in the South threatened to leave BSA and burn their uniforms if African American Scouts were permitted, but West was key in overcoming those obstacles.

Since the BSA had early and enduring ties with the YMCA, a firmly Protestant organization, the Catholic church forbade their boys to join. The Catholics accepted the BSA in 1913, but troops would be Catholic only under Catholic adult leadership. Later that year, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints affiliated their Mutual Improvement Association with the BSA

11:42AM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

So the Boy Scout have never taken federal money, huh Bill? How about the $1,000,000 in federal funds the Boy Scouts in Alaska got from HUD?

The Boy Scouts are also a federally protected monopoly.

Prior to 2005 about 400 Scouting units had been sponsored by U.S. military bases and over 10,000 by other governmental entities, primarily public schools

I could go on but will stop here. So who exactly is making up stories? Discriminating against young men because of their sexual orientation is WRONG, the Boy Scouts are WRONG, and you are WRONG!

11:40AM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

Kevin you have no comprehension as to the organization of the Boy Scouts. The Leadership is not youth, it is adults and it is the adults that prey upon the youth if allowed the opportunity. Stop trying to weasle your way into making a case to demand the Boy Scouts accept Homosexual adults.
We take in youth, but NOT Adults. An adult in Boy Scout policy is 18 years of age and over for your knowledge, perhaps you think you are still in the Youth group????

11:33AM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

Kevin, as nice a person as you seem to be, you are making up stories. The Boy Scouts never did take Federal Money long before what you call bigoted and discrimitory actions. Please do not try to make a mountain out of the mole hill when there was no mole hill 100 years ago.

In other words, the there was no federal laws saying the Boy Scouts could not have Federal funds if they discriminated against a gay or homosexual person. The Boy Scouts started in England, and have never received and never wanted to receive as the Boys and Girls earn their own monies thorugh service to their communities and other fundraisers.

11:32AM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

Bill your comments don't even make sense. In one breath you say "The Boy Scouts do not turn away any boy or girl due to the sexual orientation, race, color, and creed" inthe next you say "Yes, the Boy Scouts have a policy of no Homosexuals in leadership positions." The Boy Scouts ban openly gay scouts or leaders,which menas they turn away people due to their sexual orientation.

And how dare you compare pedophilia to homosexuality? The two have NOTHING to do with one another. Sandusky was a PEDOPHILE not a homosexual. Just more of your uneducated bigoted garbage.

Discriminating against a young boy because of his sexual orientation is wrong, the Boy Scouts are wrong, and you are wrong!

11:26AM PDT on Sep 15, 2012

The people on here seem to think that think they are wonderful and self righteous and that their ideas are the only right ideas in the world, but never realize how bad it makes them look.

The Boy Scouts do not turn away any boy or girl due to the sexual orientation, race, color, and creed. The challenge comes when it is time to become an Eagle Scout and fewer than 20% make that accomplishment.
Yes, the Boy Scouts have a policy of no Homosexuals in leadership positions. They have a policy of two deep leadership, but this cannot always be monitored by the District or Council. The youth protection is taught and driven home, but it is not a perfect system to protect our youth. Look at the headaches the youth teams get from "mostly from gay" men. There was just an example of what can happen at Penn State and their football team. Even if it had been caught early and stopped, the damage would still have been done.

The Boy Scouts have had their share of pedophiles infiltrating the organization even with all the training, and checking that takes place.

The Boy Scouts are here to teach young men and women to be responsible citizens, and how to enjoy and respect our forest for others to enjoy in the future.

11:45AM PDT on Sep 14, 2012

Bill R. said "The Boy Scouts are a private organization, they take NO federal money."

The reason they take no federal money is because they are not eligible for any money because of their bigotd and discriminatory policies. Now I realize in your fantasy world the militant homosexuals are trying to "infiltrate" the Boy Scouts and cause "trouble", but the rest of us live in reality and simply recognize that 10-12% of young men just happen to be gay. But by all means keep spewing your hateful bigoted garbage.

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