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Separation of Church and State Makes Santorum Throw Up

Separation of Church and State Makes Santorum Throw Up

During former Senator Rick Santorum’s appearance on ABC’s This Week, he took his candidacy for Pope President even further by stating “I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute.” President John Kennedy’s speech to Baptist ministers in 1960 makes Santorum want to throw up.

This Week host George Stephanopoulos showed the presidential candidate a clip of him saying so.

STEPHANOPOULOS: That speech has been read, as you know, by millions of Americans. Its themes were echoed in part by Mitt Romney in the last campaign. Why did it make you throw up?

SANTORUM: Because the first line, first substantive line in the speech says, “I believe in America where the separation of church and state is absolute.” I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute. The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country.

Santorum continued by saying:

This is the First Amendment. The First Amendment says the free exercise of religion. That means bringing everybody, people of faith and no faith, into the public square. Kennedy for the first time articulated the vision saying, no, faith is not allowed in the public square. I will keep it separate. Go on and read the speech. I will have nothing to do with faith. I won’t consult with people of faith. It was an absolutist doctrine that was abhorrent (ph) at the time of 1960. And I went down to Houston, Texas 50 years almost to the day, and gave a speech and talked about how important it is for everybody to feel welcome in the public square. People of faith, people of no faith, and be able to bring their ideas, to bring their passions into the public square and have it out. James Madison—

Well, yes, absolutely, to say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes you throw up. What kind of country do we live that says only people of non-faith can come into the public square and make their case? That makes me throw up and it should make every American who is seen from the president, someone who is now trying to tell people of faith that you will do what the government says, we are going to impose our values on you, not that you can’t come to the public square and argue against it, but now we’re going to turn around and say we’re going to impose our values from the government on people of faith, which of course is the next logical step when people of faith, at least according to John Kennedy, have no role in the public square.

Santorum’s rhetoric speaks to the fears of conservative people of faith and their leaders. But it is simply not true. The separation of church and state does not forbid people using their faith to influence public policy. We’ve seen that mostly extremely with Catholic Bishops fighting against contraceptives. People use their faith all the time in politics. Sometimes too much. But the separation does not prohibit one from doing so. It merely restricts them from operating together.

Senator Santorum’s physical repulsion of the time tested doctrine should give pause to anyone seriously thinking about voting for him. Setting up the country to be a nation that endorses a faith runs counter to everything the United States was founded upon.

 

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9:28AM PDT on Jul 15, 2012

In America you have indigenous people who you could learn a lot from. They don't see a seperation of anything, everything is connected and for every action there is a consequence. They are the guardians who actually spend a great deal of their energy trying to protect your environment and everything in it by performing their rituals based on their values and beliefs. "This land is our church" Caleen Sisk (spiritual leader and tribal chief of the Winnemem Wintu Tribe, National Geographic, July 2012). We all bring with us our values and beliefs they are part of us, however it is how we use these that makes all the difference.

8:32AM PDT on Jul 15, 2012

While he does not make me want to barf. I consider his postion to be very dangerous and would never vote for him.

7:21AM PDT on Jul 15, 2012

And people wonder why we threw his sorry @ss out of Congress.. As well as to why he wouldn't run in the presidential republican primary here in Pennsylvania. Yep, there were a lot of disappointed republicans in Pennsylvania that were lining up to be able to vote against him one last time.

Comments like this is why he will never be able to run for dog catcher here in Pa. . We would rather vote for the dog than him.

5:15AM PDT on Jul 15, 2012

This type of black and white thinking is incredibly dangerous. Santorum obviously has no understanding of either the church or the state. Or the concern America had about JFK being the first Catholic president.

5:02PM PST on Mar 10, 2012

Russel it seem that you have a conspiracy theory about who is running the United States and that they killed Kennedy.

Personally I like to stick a lot closer to the facts.

Seventh day Adventists loving GOD his world and all people.

4:42PM PST on Mar 10, 2012

Ryder, you are so wrong, your opinion does count, we need to here what the future generations think, otherwise how would we know that you are learning to seek out the information you need, you are or future leaders and we must make sure you can do the job when you take over, plus we can learn were our schools have gone wrong, if they have. Good luck to you and my you grow in wisdo, study all sides of the problems you run up against to make sure you make the right choice

1:11PM PST on Mar 10, 2012

Russel R, congradulations on a well written comment. to bad most people don't check the facts

1:42PM PST on Mar 9, 2012

I sure hope none of these religious half wits will be elected.

2:53PM PST on Mar 7, 2012

Lee said "Actually LD - polls reflect the majority of moderate Republican women don't like any of their GOP choices and are especially angered over the attack on women's right."

Nonetheless, Santorum's support among Republican women INCREASED since he became so vocal re. his views on faith and education.

11:51AM PST on Mar 7, 2012

Dear Santorum,

"Church" is not the same thing as "faith". Get a clue!

Sincerely,
me

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