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Why Hate Fur But Love Leather?

Why Hate Fur But Love Leather?

Most people are well aware that fur comes from animals that are cruelly trapped or raised miserably in tiny cages, yet we constantly turn a blind eye to leather, which is produced in exactly the same way.

Brushed off as a byproduct of another industry, leather is an animal’s skin too, and it’s not just cows that suffer; calves, goats, lambs, ostrich, alligators and even cats, dogs and horses are all exploited to make shoes, bags, belts, clothing, upholstery and innumerable other products.

Logic tell us that in the case of leather, the animal is going to be eaten anyway, so obtaining the leather is just an added bonus, but leather is much more than just a byproduct of the meat industry.

The arguments against using fur usually revolve around the barbaric treatment and slaughter, along with most people being unable to justify animals being killed solely for fashion purposes, but these same moral principles can also be applied to leather.

Wherever the leather comes from, be it spent dairy cows, newly born lambs, dogs bred in Thailand and falsely labelled as cow skin, or kangaroos imported from Australia, in every instance the animals are cruelly confined or viciously hunted, poached and trapped before being skinned.

More than half of the world’s leather comes from India, where animal welfare regulations are virtually non existent or rarely enforced. A large majority of these cows are condemned former dairy cows that have endured a lifetime of unimaginable cruelty that are then shipped thousands of miles to the only two states in India where cattle slaughter is still allowed, and in some cases all the way to Bangladesh. Before even arriving at the slaughterhouse, many of these animals are too sick and injured to even walk, and once at their final destination their death is far from painless.

Not all leather comes from the food industry; many animals are hunted and killed specifically for their skin including zebra, deer, ostrich, seals, snakes, dolphins, crocodile…the list goes on and on. Understanding where or who your leather comes from is hard to discover as most leather products are simply labelled “Genuine Leather.”

Recent investigations have shown that some “Genuine Leather” products are actually the skin of cats and dogs. During an 18 month undercover investigation in Asia, the Humane Society of the United States found dogs and cats raised in disgusting, dark, cramped conditions and brutally slaughtered by having their throats slit before being turned into wallets, purses and golf gloves destined for Europe and the United States.

Those in favor of leather say that the alternatives are often petroleum based and are wreaking havoc on our environment so they are in fact no better, but doesn’t have to be the case as there are plenty of animal free options that are also earth friendly. Another important factor to bear in mind is that the leather industry is equally environmentally devastating, utilizing dangerous mineral salts, formaldehyde, coal-tar derivatives and cyanide-based oils and dyes in the tanning process, so surely choosing products that don’t involve animal suffering is still the lesser evil. Compared to the millions of tons of plastic products that the general public purchase annually, one pair of good quality synthetic shoes that could last for years doesn’t seem so bad after all.

What’s your take on hating fur but loving leather? Do you think it is hypocritical?

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7:35PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

Pathophysiology:Methanol (highest volume emission at Pulp & Paper Mills = hundreds of tons per day) is a colorless, volatile liquid with distinct odor. Methanol is absorbed well in the GI tract. Methanol is primarily eliminated by liver through metabolism but a small percentage (2-5%) is renal excreted. Toxicity comes from the formation of formaldehyde and formic acid through hepatic dehydrogenases. The onsets of symptoms are associated with the accumulation of formic acid. Formate inhibits mitochondrial respiration leading to tissue hypoxia and lactate formation. Formate production occurs in the retina and may lead to optic papillitis and retinal edema.

Clinical Features: Headache, vertigo, lethargy, confusion, coma, and seizures. Initial symptoms may resemble ethanol intoxication.
Hyperemia of optic disc and reduced papillary response to light, Looking into a snow field, blurred vision, decreased visual acuity, diplopia, and photophobia.

Did you note this Rainbow; Formate inhibits mitochondrial respiration leading to tissue hypoxia and lactate formation, forgot to mention my retinal tears later onset by vehicle emissions.

7:11PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

Rainbow thanks; Among them Hepatic encephalopathy: Arising from advanced cirrhosis of the liver. Wernicke's encephalopathy: Arising from thiamine deficiency, usually in the setting of alcoholism.

Aldehyde was a component of the Pulp Mill emissions, as in ethanol entrained gasoline for light vehicle use, exhaust emissions. Does all the damage similar to a hard core alcoholic pass your scrutiny, damaged mitral valve, fatty liver, diminished thiamine (operates breathing function, SIDS) and random stabbing pains in lower extremities? Dozens of men were sent to the Sleep Disorder Clinic. My apnea cleared up with some high dose 500mg. thiamine I found in Wichita KS and multi B vitamin.

I could not handle the plastic tubing used on the C-pap pump because the neurotoxin ethylene oxide is used as a plastic softener. Oxygen & Dialysis tubing can also onset neurotoxic injury over long term use.

Alcoholic damage ALL on three 1/2 beers a year on a hot dusty day.

5:38PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

To conclude the “abortion debate” on the fur thread, :)

The simplest argument for abortion: Idiots’ right to breed should never trump the safety and well-being of future children.

5:34PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

“You egotesticle......" That gave me a giggle!!

3:23PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

There are many types of encephalopathy. Among them Hepatic encephalopathy: Arising from advanced cirrhosis of the liver. Wernicke's encephalopathy: Arising from thiamine deficiency, usually in the setting of alcoholism. The hallmark of encephalopathy is an altered mental state. Depending on the type and severity of encephalopathy, common neurological symptoms are loss of cognitive function, subtle personality changes, inability to concentrate, lethargy, and depressed consciousness. Other neurological signs may include myoclonus (involuntary twitching of a muscle or group of muscles), asterixis (abrupt loss of muscle tone, quickly restored), nystagmus (rapid, involuntary eye movement), tremor, seizures, jactitation (restless picking at things characteristic of severe infection),[citation needed] and respiratory abnormalities such as Cheyne-Stokes respiration (cyclic waxing and waning of tidal volume), apneustic respirations and post-hypercapnic apnea. None of which are “flu like”.

Because of your drinking were you diagnosed with Hepatic or Wernicke's encephalopathy?

3:22PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

“YOUR disdain and arrogance exemplify your rainbow world.”
You really need to get that personality disorder and paranoia looked at.
I am well aware the part toxins can play in health. You are just grasping at excuses to explain your behavior.

“encephalopathy = flu-like effects”
No. You’re thinking of encephalitis.
Encephalopathy /ɛnˌsɛfəˈlɒpəθi/ means disorder or disease of the brain. In modern usage, encephalopathy does not refer to a single disease, but rather to a syndrome of global brain dysfunction; this syndrome can have many different organic and inorganic causes. In some contexts it refers to permanent (or degenerative) brain injury, and in others it is reversible. It can be due to direct injury to the brain, or illness remote from the brain. In medical terms it can refer to a wide variety of brain disorders with very different etiologies, prognoses and implications.

3:22PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

“Rainbow does being 12 of 13 to suffer heart attack on the job qualify,”
If this happened to others, I doubt if it happened to you. I would need to see a medical report first. And just because it happened to others doesn’t mean you suffer from the same. Many service men and women fake GWI to try and get benefits. If you suffered from this you would at least be familiar with the medical terminology. As it is you appear to be an individual who is cutting and pasting terminology he doesn’t understand.

“cellular hypoxia”
Chronic cellular hypoxia is the prime cause of cancer. Studies are showing either the cancer itself to be genetic [hereditary] or the propensity for the mutation is.

3:21PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

“You egotesticle, arrogant attitudes are well, probably fueled by viagra.”
He’s obsessed with sex and balls.
Viagra, WTF? How does Viagra fuel ego and arrogance? Most men who have to use Viagra are usually not going to be egotistical considering the fact that they need help getting it up. Furthermore, they can be a little frustrated. Are you using Viagra?

“I think I may resort to strong drink, to compute this verbal diarrhea”
If that were the case I would be puking stoned by now.

3:21PM PST on Mar 6, 2014

The king of idiots hath spoken.

“Your x-ray vision is blurred again, you should study Winnipeg, Kenora, Thunder Bay. Sioux Lookout. Destinations when they fly out of the north.”

First of all I have been on many rezs here and in Canada. There is very little homelessness because someone always takes them in. Second, Native populations make up less than 3% of the population of the Americans [North and South, thanks to religion]. Third, most homeless cannot survive in rural areas. They even get arrested to have a warm, safe place to sleep. [http://abtassociates.com/AbtAssociates/files/77/77fdb6fa-6e6b-4524-8b5a-8e68c68caca9.pdf]

“Uh huh', 5 falls ago I had a bear cub come right to me in the garden when I was stripping tomatoes in late fall.”
At least you admit it.

“Rainbow has x-ray vision glasses from a comic book.”
If I did they must work damn well.

Once again King idiot assumes that Canada is SOOO much different from other places. Nature is nature. And if individuals live rural or traditionally there are many similarities globally. Another assumption the mighty King is making is that only he knows how to hunt, fish or trap, forgetting [or ignoring] my original comment on this thread.

5:00AM PST on Mar 6, 2014

Rainbow's sharing; carbon monoxide (CO). Symptoms of mild acute poisoning include lightheadedness, confusion, headaches, vertigo, and flu-like effects; larger exposures can lead to significant toxicity of the central nervous system and heart, and even death

Rainbow does being 12 of 13 to suffer heart attack on the job qualify, 59 men on oxygen, 6 men dying during construction at home. My body being like a piece of lead my last 3 days on the job. (cellular hypoxia) 27 chimneys & vents, many fumes, solvents & chemicals colourless when the wind blew from the SW.

Would I have to actually send you Environments Canada'S PARTIAL list of 72 TOXIC'S. YOUR disdain and arrogance exemplify your rainbow world. Probably 100 tradesmen prematurely dead now. An Occupational Disease physician of 45 years, stated this is the biggest coverup in Canadian Labour history.

encephalopathy = flu-like effects

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