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Swine Flu Vaccine: What To Do?

posted by Dr. Frank Lipman Oct 11, 2009 5:00 pm

Summer is over and the question I am being asked most frequently in my practice is, “what do I do about Swine flu?” My patients are wondering whether or not they should get vaccinated and the simple answer I give most of the time is ..NO!

From what you may have read, you might think that the swine flu vaccine is the answer to swine flu. Unfortunately this is not true and until we know that the vaccine is safe, I cannot in good conscience recommend it to most of my patients.

From the outset, let me say, I am not anti all vaccinations, rather I am pro vaccine safety and freedom of choice.

This is why am I not recommending the swine flu vaccine:

1. At this stage, for the most part the swine flu seems benign.

Over a million people in the US have already come down with swine flu, many of them without even knowing that they had it. The vast majority of people who get the swine flu recover after a week or so of high fever, aches, and respiratory distress. It’s not pleasant, but except in rare circumstances, it is not fatal. Most people who’ve been infected by swine flu think so little of it, they believe they just had a really bad cold or a regular flu. So unless the swine flu evolves to a much more virulent form, there’s no need for mass vaccination.

2. We don’t know if the vaccine will be effective.

Vaccines are only useful against the specific viral strain that was available at the time of their manufacture. But influenza viruses mutate quickly, and as the WHO has already said, the real concern with H1N1 swine flu is that it will combine with seasonal flu in the Fall, creating a new strain that will of course be immune to all available vaccines.

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Odin Torchwood

Ooh that reminds me, as a child of 6, I was bitten by a pet wolf (or wolf like dog). I was fine for three days until my mum discovered the bite mark. I was admitted for tetanus treatment (4 injections) and within 10 minutes I started to burn up, sweating followed, I soon found it difficult to breathe, a strong migraine headache followed just before I passed out. The treatment was reversed with a lot more injections of various other drugs. It was about 2 weeks later when I was told that my immune system stops the tetanus disease more effectively than the treatment (which poisoned me instead of treat the infection). Glad the pet was kept alive and was fully retrained for domestic lifestyles.

Odin Torchwood

Vaccines are fine when they have been thoroughly tested and approved but, not everyone benefits after receiving the treatment either. There should always be a individual test for a patient before having the vaccine in case of possible negative side effects against the vaccine itself. Simples. This should also extend to shopping centers/ superstores who sell the vaccine treatment to customers. Hmmm.

Anne Byam

..... ran out of room - so continuing a little bit more :

While here, again - Again, I, my family and friends have NEVER had a problem with any form of vaccination in all of our lives. I am personally grateful that they are available.

Maybe the Australian authorities are better at safeguarding their people from nasties potentially associated with vaccinations and other medical products, BEFORE they are available for distribution. And they don't permit innoculations to be given just anywhere ! It must be done by someone who has the authority and know how to do it - in a medically clean environment - not at a local supermarket or pharmacy, as I have been told happens there - by a friend in the U.S. Just a thought !!

Anne Byam

Further to my comments to Joyce M ... and for those who might be interested. I Googled the C6 Bill - Canada and read it through word for word. It is designed to PROTECT their citizens from illegally produced substances, which could harm or kill, or could present serious health hazards. It is NOT, as claimed in Joyce M's post, aimed at making it illegal to possess natural remedies.

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Parl=40&Ses=2&Mode=1&Pub=Bill&Doc=C-6_3&File=35

A copy and paste from the C6 Bill, from the link above :

4 . (1) This Act applies to consumer products with the exception of those listed in Schedule 1.

Tobacco products (2) This Act applies to tobacco products as defined in section 2 of the Tobacco Act but only in respect of their ignition propensity.

Natural health products (3) For greater certainty, this Act does not apply to natural health products as defined in subsection 1(1) of the Natural Health Products Regulations made under the Food and Drugs Act.
*** Note the word "NOT" (above)

(another c & p) The purpose of this Act is to protect the public by addressing or preventing dangers to human health or safety that are posed by consumer products in Canada, including those that circulate within Canada and those that are imported.

While here, again - I, my family and friends have NEVER had a problem with any form of vaccination in all of our lives. Ma

Anne Byam

Joyce M - You do have a problem or three dont'cha? First - you don't check your facts at all. You don't look into the origins of these 'let's-frighten-the-hell-out-of-everyone' posts, or the links and connections of these blogs/websites to other websites that are in no way official, or resemble an official or authoritative organisation. I could relate a heap on this subject alone, but not here. You ask "Have you not heard or read anything?" - methinks I have read a great deal more than you have, that's obvious. I rather think it's you who has the sheep mentality you mention - following these blogs, posts and upsetting websites and actually BELIEVING them !! What a silly sausage you are. And where did you get "well - if an epidemic arose etc. etc." - another conspiracy blog/website offering ? Do yourself a BIG favour and go read the C6 Bill (Canada) in it's entirety. And THEN have another think.

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Parl=40&Ses=2&Mode=1&Pub=Bill&Doc=C-6_3&File=35

As for people you "love" who are dense ??? and need "proof " ... I have yet to SEE the 'proof ' ... proof is in ACTION, not in rumour, innuendo, private thoughts or opinions on the Internet.
Finally - I was disgusted and offended by your use of a parallel in your opening statement. That of Jews ' lining up peacefully etc '. That's a vile and upsetting similarity to draw & you should be ashamed of yourself.

Joyce M.

Yea, Anne B.! Line right up for those innoculations just as the first Jews lined up peacefully as they were told they would just be relocated for a little while. You are just the sheep-mentality person they are looking for to begin forced innoculations. Have you not heard or read anything? It starts as a simple,"well if an epidemic arose, we would HAVE to have everyone innoculated so that the disease wouldn't spread". What do you think that means? I love people who are so dense they can't get it when it's just a "hint", they have to have "proof" and have it hit them over the head before they get it. This is real Anne and it is happening. Look at what is happening in Canada with the C-6 bill in which the government is trying to make it illegal to possess natural remedies. What do you think that means? Duh! Think!!! With all the room you have used up on here, YOU have not proved the reverse viewpoint at all.

Anne Byam

........continued -
To see that this is true, just count up the many varied ways that ATS members have managed to fantasize one conspiracy after another ... after another ... and yet, NOT ONE SINGLE CONSPIRACY HAS COME TRUE ...
And the latest non-starter and failed conspiracy ?
"GLOBALLY FORCED VACCINATION FOR SWINE FLU".
Just NOT going to happen .... EVER ... and not a single one of you can produce any proof or evidence that it ever will.
***********
(from Annie B) I do think the last comment is enough ... no one can "produce any proof or evidence that it ever will". That's to do with enforcement of innoculation.

As for the safety of vaccinations - I have been having them all of my life, and have suffered absolutely NO ill effects from any of them. In fact, I am eternally grateful that I was in the age when e.g. vaccinations against polio were on offer (no doubt you doubters would try to tell me that the same nasties were in those too !!) ... and I have had yearly influenza vaccinations with absolutely NOOOOO ill effects whatsoever for the past 20+ years. I'm still here - writing things - aren't I ??? In fact all members of my family (and friends) have had same - and to date I have not attended one single funeral caused by the flu vaccination - and REMEMBER - flu vaccinations change from year to year. That's it folks - WAKE UP TO YOURSELVES, and stop believing the hyperbole being put out by 'stirrers' on vaccination and its nasties.

Anne Byam

Well, it's now day 3 of the swine flu vaccine availability here in Australia. And so far ... zip, zero, zilch has been happening with regards to the "forced vaccination" conspiracy that's been running rampant here on ATS (that's a site named "Above Top Secret") for the past few months.

In fact, media attention regarding the availability has been so low-key that it's almost non-existant with just an initial report a few days ago that the vaccine was now available.

Life apparently goes on as normal ... no military law ... no forced vaccinations ... no infringement of civil liberties ... no fines ... no imprisonment ... no detention ... no camps ... no body bags ... no mass burials ... NO NOTHING.

Basically, the entire "forced vaccination" conspiracy scenario is nothing more than hysteria generated and promulgated by certain ATS members who deep down in the psyche WANT some kind of global catastrophe to occur, who for whatever personal reason WANT society to breakdown and collapse and who are simply NOT happy or content with the world they currently live in. Perhaps the world is simply too mundane, boring and unexciting from their point of view and something like "forced vaccinations" with the premise of worldwide government collusion and population control/reduction makes for a more interesting scenario.
......... continuing .........

Anne Byam

OK - that's it folks. I have read so much diatribe on this subject now IT is making me sick - not the vaccine. How dare anyone tell me (as an Australian) what my country is 'supposed' to be doing "forcing people to be vaccinated". Like in ANDREW MAC's comment - he refers to a link that turns out to be put up by someone called June Burgermeister ... who has an agenda of her own no doubt. You are ALL behaving like people who actually believe that someone from a foreign country is offering you $15 million U.S. dollars as a beneficiary - now don't try and tell me you haven't received one of THOSE con. emails ? NOW you are believing content put out by those who want to start another Internt riot of some kind, content that is absolutely absurd and untrue. NO-ONE in Australia is being forced to do anything about being vaccinated or not. Dear God - please get a grip before it's too late - you lot. ANDREW MAC mentions "the State Government" wants to 'forcibly hold' (read it below in comments if you dare ) ... hey mate - there are SIX State Governments in this country and TWO Territories (on the mainland). Which one are you referring to ??? to have supposedly threatened this action of 'forcing' our people to be vaccinated ???? Huh ? On the next post I will show you something that has been written very well - better than I could write it ... about the REAL facts - especially as it refers to Australia. How DARE you write such rubbish!





Robert B.

If you compare the number of deaths that normally occur from flu with deaths in the first 8-9 months from swine flu (from WHO and Wikipedia), you will see that the annual rate of deaths from swine flu works out at less than 5% of the LOWEST figure normally.

Are the press and media too dumb to find this out and thus put the whole thing into reasonable perspective, or have they been told not to mention this?

And please note that according to a Ukranian pathologist, the outbreak there is not pneumonic plague but the result of another virus mixing with the A-H1N1 virus. This is vital to know because the pathologist puts the high death rate there down to people self medicating with anti-biotics, which weaken the immune system, whereas survival depends on a strong immune system.

If this infection spreads to other countries, you MUST get your doctor to carry out tests to see exactly what infection you have before accepting a prescription. Note also that the pathologist says that anti-virals such as Tamiflu should not be used as a preventative because THEY ARE TOXIC!

Many are recommending Vitamin D3 to boost the immune system, and you will find other things recommended or to be avoided on natural health sites.

Please also check out the new science of the structure of water for masses of scientific evidence of the health benefits of positive rather than negative emotions, and for the power of prayer. Put "Water video by Saida Medvedeva and Vasiliy Anisimov" into Google

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