Thursday July 16, 2009, 6:57 pm
action taken, thank you cher

Thursday July 16, 2009, 6:58 pm
Thanks Cher.

Thank you for making the pledge "Where should we draw the line on the climate bill? "

Thank you for telling us where you draw the line.
There are big fights ahead on climate change, and we will need your help as we go forward. Thank you!

Thursday July 16, 2009, 7:24 pm
You bet there is a big fight coming. People are waking up to the fraud.

Even the Arch-Warmists at Real Climate say there will be no more warming until at least 2020.Two Decades of No Warming, Consistent With . . .

Over at Real Climate they are busy giving climate skeptics reason to cheer:

We hypothesize that the established pre-1998 trend is the true forced warming signal, and that the climate system effectively overshot this signal in response to the 1997/98 El Niño. This overshoot is in the process of radiatively dissipating, and the climate will return to its earlier defined, greenhouse gas-forced warming signal. If this hypothesis is correct, the era of consistent record-breaking global mean temperatures will not resume until roughly 2020.

Imagine, twenty-two or more years (1998 to ~2020) of no new global temperature record. What would that do to the debate?

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/14/real-climate-gives-reason-to-cheer/

Thursday July 16, 2009, 7:55 pm
Send a Green Star to Judy Cross
Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
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Thursday July 16, 2009, 8:00 pm


You know if you are going to comment in a posting, ( even though we disagree ) it would be nice if you would note the posting also.

:)

Thursday July 16, 2009, 8:06 pm
you got it

Thursday July 16, 2009, 8:10 pm


Thnx!

Thursday July 16, 2009, 8:18 pm
You are quite welcome.

Friday July 17, 2009, 1:22 am
Signed xx

Friday July 17, 2009, 6:20 am
Poll Taken!

Friday July 17, 2009, 12:51 pm



Thnx everyone!!

Friday July 17, 2009, 4:10 pm
noted & signed

Friday July 17, 2009, 4:33 pm
Since the global temperatures are already too high (melting the Arctic ice cap and causing droughts in some areas and flooding in others, it doesn't matter if the temperatures do not rise again until 2020. We must also work to bring the temperatures DOWN, to the levels they were at in the 1970s. That is our logical target, and we are nowhere near that yet.

Friday July 17, 2009, 5:38 pm
Dale,
Why the 1970's? Why don't we bring temperatures down to where they were in the 1600 and 1700's? They were much colder than today and millions died from food shortages. Or perhaps we could bring them down to the 900's? Oops. They were much warmer than today. Must have been those medieval SUV's? I think Viking King Gorm prefered a Suburban to the Prius.
But wait, lets bring them down to where they were 21,000 years ago when it was MUCH, MUCH colder (and drier - funny how the droughts that are blamed on warming are actually much worse when the climate is cooling) and glaciers covered much of North America. See what happened then was the Cro-Magnon's passed a massive Cap & Trade bill over the objection of the Neanderthal's. Thank goodness for that!
Well maybe you;re right. Lets het down to the 70's where we are nowhere near. Oops again. Global Average Temperature in June 2009 just dropped (as part of a several year trend) to 1970's temperatures. Of course this is not quite as low as they dropped in 1984 and 1992, but what the heck. The 1970;s were the ideal temp as everybody knows.

Friday July 17, 2009, 7:34 pm
The conclusion to the article Judy refrences states:
the article is here

What do our results have to do with Global Warming, i.e., the century-scale response to greenhouse gas emissions? VERY LITTLE, contrary to claims that others have made on our behalf. Nature (with hopefully some constructive input from humans) will decide the global warming question based upon climate sensitivity, net radiative forcing, and oceanic storage of heat, not on the type of multi-decadal time scale variability we are discussing here. However, this apparent impulsive behavior explicitly highlights the fact that humanity is poking a complex, nonlinear system with GHG forcing – and that there are no guarantees to how the climate may respond.

JIK the url doesn't work
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/07/warminginterrupted-much-ado-about-natural-variability/#more-686

Friday July 17, 2009, 10:13 pm
Mark G sez:
"Why the 1970's? Why don't we bring temperatures down to where they were in the 1600 and 1700's? They were much colder than today and millions died from food shortages."

Exactly. We are adapted to the specific climate of the mid 20th Century. Any severe and long term change of either warming or cooling would be a disaster.

"Or perhaps we could bring them down to the 900's? Oops. They were much warmer than today."

Falsehood. I debunked this myth here:
http://circleh.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/debunking-the-mwp-myth/
The rest of your comment is just plain stupid. If you have no understanding of the real issues, don't bother.