Thursday November 5, 2009, 9:43 am


Is it hypocritical of Al Gore to urge environmental consciousness while continuing to eat meat?

Yes -- A leader in the environmental movement should be vegetarian 78% (285 votes)
No -- Gore can eat whatever he wants and help the environment in other ways 14% (50 votes)
Don't know 1% (2 votes)
Who cares? 8% (29 votes)
Total Votes: 366

Thursday November 5, 2009, 10:00 am
The former World Bank economist Sir Nicholas Stern, also advocates vegetarianism...for everyone else. He is also a meat eater like Gore.

The hypocrisy couldn't be more blatant.

Thursday November 5, 2009, 10:33 am
Do as I say, not as I do has been Gore's position from the start. He tells us to cut our carbon footprint, but his is large enough to cover an entire neighborhood or small city.

Thursday November 5, 2009, 11:37 am
Yes -- A leader in the environmental movement should be vegetarian 75% (317 votes)
No -- Gore can eat whatever he wants and help the environment in other ways 15% (62 votes)
Don't know

Thursday November 5, 2009, 12:40 pm
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Of course if you're a Gore hater like Judy and Ralph then it's just one more thing to use against him.
The way I look at it is Gore has done more than most people to help the environment. His meat-eating, and other things that make him a 'hypocrite' don't add up to diddly compared to the good he's done. In the end that's what matters the most.
I eat meat yet I've protected wildlife, animals, nature for 12 years. So what? I'm comfortable knowing what the ratio of 'my bad' to 'my good' is.

I wonder how 'hypocritical' people like Judy or Ralph could be found out to be in various areas of living.

Thursday November 5, 2009, 1:53 pm
74% YES !!! Yahoo I am happy to hear that. Word is getting out! However I do think Al gore has done a lot to get attention on this critical issue. So as long as he keeps educating people that is good. He really should work on reducing meat consumption at least. i think he should have made his HUGE house solar or geothermal he has the money for goodness sakes. That would speak a lot more to people than just words.
Thanks Cher

Thursday November 5, 2009, 2:51 pm
If everyone did as much as Al Gore does for our environment and our planet, we wouldn't have any problems left. I drive a muscle car - but it pretty much stays in the garage. It doesn't matter what I own, it matters what I drive around. Someone with a fuel efficient car who put 10 times the miles a month (most do) have bigger footprints than mine.
It's not about what he should do but doesn't, it's about what he does do. And, by the way, were all of you aware that he donates the proceeds and more from his books and other endeavors?
I am an environmentalist but I own a muscle car and I eat meat once in a while. I'm not a hypocrite. NO ONE DOES EVERYTHING RIGHT. It's never about doing everything right; if it was we would all be hypocrites.

JUDY and RALPH can continue to be selfish and greedy and uncaring about future generations while they continue to over-consume in ways they feel they are entitled to. Some of us care enough about future generations to eat meat less, and park the car, and put EnergyStar tiles on our roof, and change out our light bulbs, and reuse all sorts of bottles and bags and plastic items, and shop carefully for bulk items in less packaging, and use less electricity and water, and all sorts of other things. No one does everything they should. We all need to do better. VERY VERY few of us do as much as Al Gore does for the planet, for the future, for the environment, and for future generations. Only those who do more overall have any standing to criticize and Judy and Ralph are NOT among them by a long, long shot. Enough foolishness. We can't spend time on the selfish people who don't care about our children and grandchildren. Let's spend our time emailing and calling and writing to government officials and educating others about this issue. Let's follow Al Gore's good leadership to do much even if None of us do everything.

Check out: http://www.repoweramerica.org/

Or read about this issue and Al Gore at:
http://www.ecorazzi.com/2009/11/03/al-gore-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire/
Al Gore is hitting the media circuit to drum up publicity for his new book “Our Choice” — and true to form, climate change deniers and the political right are quick to counter his time in the spotlight with jabs and scorn over his “green agenda”. This time, labeling Gore as a future “carbon billionaire” is the rallying cry — with many believing that his push for greener industries is simply a ploy to pad his pockets.

In response, Gore sent the NY Times an email saying that his investment activities were consistent with his public advocacy over decades. (Read that at: http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/gores-dual-role-in-spotlight-advocate-and-investor/)

“I have advocated policies to promote renewable energy and accelerate reductions in global warming pollution for decades, including all of the time I was in public service,” Mr. Gore wrote. “As a private citizen, I have continued to advocate the same policies. Even though the vast majority of my business career has been in areas that do not involve renewable energy or global warming pollution reductions, I absolutely believe in investing in ways that are consistent with my values and beliefs. I encourage others to invest in the same way.”

Let’s also not forget that Gore has given away millions to help fund his non-profit, the Alliance for Climate Protection, and to the Climate Project, which trains people to present a version of the slide show from An Inconvenient Truth.

To be honest, the guy could make $100 billion and I wouldn’t give a damn. He’s helping to invest in technologies and companies that are pushing this nation in a more sustainable direction. He’d be a fool not to put his money where his mouth is.

Thursday November 5, 2009, 9:25 pm
It is funny that our two denialists in chief talk about hypocracy on this issue LMAO!!!!

Thursday November 5, 2009, 11:03 pm
I really don't care how big Poop Gore's carbon footprint is because it doesn't make any difference. I could also care less about how much gas he lets out his back side (unless I'm down wind) because there is so little methane in the atmosphere that it couldn't possibly have the huge affect warmers claim it does. I also have no problem with him making a killing on his investments in green technology; more power to him. I do however have a problem with him attempting to establish a new commodities market that will dramatically increase cost for everyone while he cashes in selling carbon credits to companies and corporations that continue to pollute the atmosphere with other agents that are toxic along with the CO2 that is not a pollutant.

Do you even know the definition of hypocrisy? You might want to look it up, but make sure you spell it correctly so you'll be able to find it. I don't preach one thing and then personally do something completely different. I don't believe CO2 is a problem. I drive a gas guzzling conversion van; my wife drives an SUV; we keep our home comfortably warm in the winter and cool in the summer and we eat meat at every meal.

Your messiah is the hypocritical one. He preaches the evils of CO2 but has a carbon footprint the size of a small business or town. He sermonizes the evils of CO2 and then makes money buying and selling the evil. Now that is hypocritical. If he gets the cap and trade bill he is unofficially lobbying for he will likely make that 100 billion, from businesses that will continue to pollute, before he dies of old age.

Thursday November 5, 2009, 11:28 pm
I am not a Gore supporter nor a hater. I do appreciate the good he has been doing, but Gore does have a historical path of hypocrisy. This is only my humble opinion, and I respect those who differ.

Friday November 6, 2009, 7:14 am
I'm sorry....but GLENN BECK? Telling Al Gore to put down the cheeseburger? OMG...
PETA says..."We'll do whtvr it takes 2 show ppl the connection between meat production and the environment."
Like Glenn's a vegetarian? He's just taking an opportunity to take a shot. I'm so ashamed of PETA.

Friday November 6, 2009, 12:08 pm
JennyLynn you go girl!!!!!!!!

Wow Ralph, where's all that venom come from? A man you've never met?
You certainly are no hypocrite. You're damn proud of what you own and eat and do (or don't do)! LOL
Al Gore is a messiah? Not that I know of. That's hyperbole. "Do you even know the definition of hyperbole? You might want to look it up, but make sure you spell it correctly so you'll be able to find it"

Gore never has needed to make money 'off of the CO2 evil". It's the simplest of simple to make everything out to be 'for the money' as a way of squashing someone.
You don't happen to be a big fan of PrisonPlanet.com too like Judy do you?

Friday November 6, 2009, 12:28 pm
thank you Cher

Friday November 6, 2009, 1:16 pm
Al Gore was on this long before he was EVER VP and wrote a book about it. I have seen him interviewed way back in the day everyone IGNORED his warnings.. He was passionate and sincere. There are hundreds of ways to help environment without going over the edge, as some seem to like to do. Shame on you for saying he must do as you say cause I bet ya all do something wrong in the environment and don't even know it. Eating meat is small beans compared to so many other things. And slaughtering all beef etc is just plain nuts. Thank you Kenneth for some common sense and sanity. What a country we now have. I let you do your thing and all the rest of us will do ours. In the end it will work out if we stick to the ideals and actions of cleaning up our earth.

Friday November 6, 2009, 1:32 pm
How dare you guys be so disrespectful. Eating meat is not the frist thing one does when teaching ways to "Save our planet" I think you guys are so full of your selfs you can not see how .....you ready are
This is
Propaganda,Propaganda, Propaganda I know some people love this because it makes them fill big. How sick

Friday November 6, 2009, 1:47 pm
I guess we should all try to be as environmentally conscious as possible. Sometimes we need to forgive those of us who are not 100% on the "green" side, it is really a matter of degrees. The whole prospect of going green, including becoming vegan can be overwhelming for some. We need to forgive and congratulate people on all their baby steps toward a environmental and animal respectful lifestyle. I remember when, 8 years ago, I first contemplated becoming vegetarian, it seemed overwhelming. I had to learn a whole new way of cooking. Had someone told me back that I had to give up all animal products, I would've been overwhelmed. It is a slow progress of changing a way of thinking.
Mind you, Al Gore, being in the public eye, well that's another story, he should set an example.

Friday November 6, 2009, 2:26 pm
Excuse me, but meat eating itself is not bad for the environment. If it were, then most ecosystems would be ruined. The REAL problem is OVERPOPULATION, which would be an issue even if we were all VEGANS!

I despise PETA. They are the hypocrites, much more than Al Gore!

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Friday November 6, 2009, 2:42 pm
"Your messiah is the hypocritical one. He preaches the evils of CO2 but has a carbon footprint the size of a small business or town."

Really? Based on what evidence? Would he be less of a hypocrite if he lived in a cave with no electricity? Or never drove a car or flew in a plane?

"He sermonizes the evils of CO2 and then makes money buying and selling the evil. Now that is hypocritical. If he gets the cap and trade bill he is unofficially lobbying for he will likely make that 100 billion, from businesses that will continue to pollute, before he dies of old age."

Uh, no one, not even Al Gore, says CO2 is entirely evil. And trading in carbon credits is supposed to reduce the CO2 emissions so the charge of hypocrisy in that is strange, to say the least. And where do you get that 100 billion figure?

I guess we would all stop being hypocrites in your eyes, Ralph, if we gave up technology and returned to Stone Age style living?

Friday November 6, 2009, 2:51 pm
Um wheres me waders...LOL Jen I have one badass Z28 with a suped up LT1 but unlike you it is my transportation to and from work. Yes bad I know, I know, but I make up for it in so many other ways.....hmmmmmm hopefully...LOL

Big Gorilly Hugs

Been off meat now for 5 months now.....

Friday November 6, 2009, 7:40 pm
Your poll of course is being taken by more by people who are mainly from one demographic, vegans, vegetarian, petaites and beckies attracted to the Headline and not anything even approaching a cross section of people, but who cares. Personally I think Glenn Beck and PETA are perfect for each other; neither has ever let facts get in the way of publicity or pushing their agenda. Neither PETA or Beck have anything in common at all except a hatred for Gore and a willingness to climb into bed with anyone that will help their public exposure. If PETA has become such a disreputable bunch that they did not denounce Glenn ' the racist, fear mongering, I would rather see America fail then Obama succeed' Beck's 'endorsement of them then, though I find it hard to imagine, they are an even slimier bunch of Headline chasing loons that I had thought. I wish the new couple all the best in their new endeavor to prove once and for all that two wrongs do not make a right.

Friday November 6, 2009, 8:26 pm
What about the cars that all of you drive, and so on and so on. Check out your own carbon footprint before pointing fingers.

Friday November 6, 2009, 11:57 pm
I’ll admit it, I do exaggerate, but the exaggeration always has a grain of truth in it. I may very well have exaggerated Big Al’s carbon footprint, but like I said before I could care less how big or small his footprint is because as far as I’m concerned CO2 makes no difference in climate change.
He can make as much money as he wants and is capable of making, but when he wants to increase cost for everyone else to make that money I do have a problem with it. The money he is investing in green technologies is admirable and in the long run we will all benefit from those wise investments. We as individuals will have a choice as to whether or not we want to purchase the results of his green technology investments, but with cap and trade there is NO choice; everyone will pay more for everything and for what? Dale is being naive if he believes industry will make a concerted effort to reduce CO2 under cap and trade. They will simply buy carbon credits from companies that use the green technology products developed by companies like the ones Mr. Gore has invested in and pass the additional cost on to consumers.
“Mind you, Al Gore, being in the public eye, well that's another story, he should set an example.”
I agree with that statement completely, Elvira. Mr. Gore leads by pointing the way he wants YOU to go; not by setting an example for others to follow.
“I despise PETA. They are the hypocrites, much more than Al Gore!”
You are right, Dale, that is something else PETA and Beck have in common; they are hypocrites though I wouldn’t have used the word “much”, just “more”.
“I guess we would all stop being hypocrites in your eyes, Ralph, if we gave up technology and returned to Stone Age style living?”
You can do that if you want to, Dale, but don’t look for me to join you. I believe technology is the answer to solving most if not all of our problems. The thing we have to be careful of is using new technologies that are more harmful to the environment than the ones the new technology is designed to replace; case in point: bio-fuels. The fuel burns cleaner, but the production of that fuel is dirtier than oil or coal. It is also a technology that has caused a reduction in world food supplies at a time when there is already a world food shortage and it has also been responsible for destruction of forest on a large scale.
The 100 billion? Read JennyLynn’s comment. I agree with the first half of her comment, but the second half of her comment serves to point out why I referred to Mr. Gore as the global warming religion’s messiah; blind faith and believing everything he says as though it were gospel.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 12:58 am
it's just common sense to live as simply as possible.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 6:59 am
Personally I'm not antagonistic towards PETA. IMO they do a lot of good toward lessening the bad effects on animals that humans do, in all sorts of ways. They make really bone-headed PR moves a fair amount of the time. They probably screw up regarding some issues and in some areas but the good they do IMO far outweighs the bad.
Sometimes I get the sneaking suspicion they are against meat-eating totally but that doesn't bother me. I eat some meat, I still help them because of the good they do, and it's not a prerequisite to belong to Peta and not eat meat. So it doesn't bother me.
They ARE effective at helping animals in many cases. That's all I care about.

Ralph, you're still on about Gore being a 'messiah' having 'blind faith' and 'believing everything he says as though it were 'gospel'. What's with all the religious overtones? And global warming is a 'religion'? Is there any way you DON'T use to squash anyone who thinks global warming is real and human assisted?

Saturday November 7, 2009, 8:20 am
Have to laugh at PETA. I was a member but left after learning what they did. Employees told by their superiors to euthanize healthy adoptable cats, dogs, kittens and puppies in the back of their van, put the bodies in large garbage bags and put them in a dumpster behind a Piggly Wiggly Supermarket. With the money PETA has they could open up " No Kill Shelters". Ethical Treatment Of Animals, whta they did was barbaric! Glenn Beck is brain dead from all the years he abused drugs and alcohol!

Saturday November 7, 2009, 1:28 pm
I am surprised at some peoples attitudes towards PETA. Here's a question for those who eat meat and do not like PETA's work. If 'PETA kills animals' then what does a meat eater think they are responsible for each time they consume meat? An animals' death in an abattoir is no happy event and their life prior to that can be abhorrently cruel.

Sunday November 8, 2009, 5:03 am
I am still a PETA supporter. They do more good than harm & we need them & theri like no matter what. One bad apple etc. Patricia.

Monday November 9, 2009, 1:01 am
"I’ll admit it, I do exaggerate, but the exaggeration always has a grain of truth in it."

Not in science it doesn't.

"as far as I’m concerned CO2 makes no difference in climate change."

That position is only plausible if you can prove that CO2 has no actual greenhouse properties.

"He can make as much money as he wants and is capable of making, but when he wants to increase cost for everyone else to make that money I do have a problem with it."

Why do you think I hate ExxonMobil and most of the other fossil fuel companies? Note this: It is better to pay a lot now through construction of new facilities and then get ultra-cheap energy from windmills, solar panels, and hydroelectic dams than to pay, and pay, and pay, and pay, and pay some for DECADES to come for continued use of fossil fuels. There is no excuse for continued delays in the change from fossil fuels to renewable sources of energy, not from a long term perspective. A century from now, energy costs will be a lot less, especially when the pollution issue is factored into the matter.

"The money he is investing in green technologies is admirable and in the long run we will all benefit from those wise investments."

Huh? Make up your mind!

"We as individuals will have a choice as to whether or not we want to purchase the results of his green technology investments, but with cap and trade there is NO choice; everyone will pay more for everything and for what? Dale is being naive if he believes industry will make a concerted effort to reduce CO2 under cap and trade. They will simply buy carbon credits from companies that use the green technology products developed by companies like the ones Mr. Gore has invested in and pass the additional cost on to consumers."

Unfounded assumptions. If cap and trade makes fossil fuels end up costing more, then that will motivate us to establish more non-polluting sources sooner than we would otherwise. The fossil fuels will eventually run out anyway and when they start to become more scarce, their prices will skyrocket anyway, and without sufficient infrastructure to end our dependence on fossil fuels by then, our economies, and indeed our entire civilization, will crash, even without any climate change. How ignorant you seem to be!

"Mr. Gore leads by pointing the way he wants YOU to go; not by setting an example for others to follow."

Have you ever been to his house, and thus can testify to how wasteful it is? Note: in his book An Inconvenient Truth, Gore says nothing against people living in a mansion, eating meat occationally (though he does say we should eat less of it), flying in a private jet, or driving their own cars (he recommends we use hybrids, actually). Criticize him for not doing enough and even not advocating enough, but I think the charge of hypocrisy stems from the fact that Gore does not live the way anti-environmentalists think environmentalists want us to live. Maybe some extremists among the environmentalists do think that way, but Gore is not an extremist. He is a pragmatist. If he WERE an extremist, you'd probably be bashing him anyway.

"I believe technology is the answer to solving most if not all of our problems."

So does Al Gore.

"The thing we have to be careful of is using new technologies that are more harmful to the environment than the ones the new technology is designed to replace; case in point: bio-fuels. The fuel burns cleaner, but the production of that fuel is dirtier than oil or coal."

Care2 explain exactly why? That sounds incredible! How much pollution is produced from the making of alcoholic beverages?

"It is also a technology that has caused a reduction in world food supplies at a time when there is already a world food shortage and it has also been responsible for destruction of forest on a large scale."

That may be true, but that is why we must ultimately reduce the world's population through more advanced forms of birth control. Bio-fuels are only a temporary solution to buy us time as fossil fuels continue to dwindle, until we succeed in giving them up. We cannot rely on them completely. Someday, even hybrids are bound to be obsolete, and then we will rely on cars with hydrogen fuel cells, which cause NO pollution at all!

Monday November 9, 2009, 9:09 pm
PETA President Defends Her Gore-Bashing Glenn Beck Appearance

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/11/peta-president-gore-bashing-glenn-beck.php?dtc=th_rss

Tuesday November 10, 2009, 7:54 am
PETA, which IMO does a lot of good to protect animals has virtually this one agenda. But apparently a big part of that agenda is for people to not eat meat.
So of course with one agenda they can denounce ANY person or group on the planet, whether the person or group is environmental, political (how can you be a politician for the people in general when you eat meat that harms the planet in so many ways? etc.), social, religious, you name it.
Anyone or any group that says it is environmental such as Al Gore is fair game to being attacked if the person eats meat. So is Obama, so is Glenn Beck, so is WWF, so is any religion if it's followers eat meat etc., etc. etc. etc.
I'm thinking expect Peta to denounce Christians, the Pope, the Boy Scouts, etc. in the future if the group's followers eat meat. Just my opinion.

If I was Gore I wouldn't get sucked into playing someone else's game, like Ingrid Newkirk's, either. It's a 'play it my way or the highway' type game. It's all loaded, rigged, baited, and trapped. Any person is an environmentalist if they help the environment.

She also was using exaggeration when she called said Gore has 'set himself up as the world's leading environmentalist'. He has? When and how did he do that? Unless he actually stated that in words she's stretching things and is sort of deceptive there.

I have no idea why she would go on a talk show with Beck, who doesn't believe anything Peta says and clearly riidicules the idea of protecting animals or even not eating meat.

Saturday November 14, 2009, 12:32 pm
What strikes me a hypocritical is the fact that Animal Rights Terrorists and Right-Wing Nut-Jobs would even get into each other's beds. They will say anything and do anything to spread their similar messages of FEAR in order to get CONTROL of others.

The reason that the Poll is showing what it does is SAMPLE BIAS. Ask the same question at OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE and see the results.


I eat less that average amount of meat.

I've actually DONE something real for the environment, not just bang on the keyboard.
Exotic plant removal, trash pick-up, the attending of local government meetings, volunteer labor at state parks.

I love all my pets and plan to acquire wild cats ASAP. Those who oppose the keeping of exotic pets don't understand the benefits to wild species. If keeping pets caused extinction, then cats, dogs, horses, etc would have become extinct long ago. Domesticated cat population: 600,000,000+ / Tigers - wild 5,000 captive 10,000+. PETA spreads the LIES that the public is in danger from exotic pets. BS! Only OWNERS and those that work inside the LION cage get EATEN by the lion. If I want to take that risk, like sky-diving etc, it should be MY CHOICE.

I believe in moral obligation to the public and the planet. I also believe in the Constitution of the United States and property rights. Climate change is here now. It is such a serious problem that changing light bulbs (which I have done) and driving Priuses is not going to make a difference! Much BIGGER changes are needed.