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Help Elephants in Seattle's Woodland Park Zoo ! PLEASE SIGN ! !


Animals  (tags: animals, AnimalWelfare, environment, protection, suffering )

Cher
- 645 days ago - thepetitionsite.com
Three elephants, Bamboo, Chai, and Watoto have been confined to cramped, inadequate enclosures at the Woodland Park Zoo for decades.



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Elizabeth O. (87)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 8:48 am
Signed.
 

Vicynthia Tjahjadi (57)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 8:48 am
Signed. Thank you.
 

Joe R. (189)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 8:59 am
Thanks Cher. Signed and noted.
 

Constance F. (433)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 9:19 am
Signed, thank you !
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 9:26 am

What a sad story. Of course I signed and shared this.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 9:47 am
Already signed, thanks.
 

naomi cohen (44)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:01 am
signed. thank you, cher.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:09 am
sadly signed
 

Gysele van Santen (213)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:18 am
signed.
 

Vincenzo Correale (197)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:23 am
Done!
 

Rock H. (254)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:33 am
Signed and noted. Thanks Cher!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:41 am
Armand, You signed on December 9, 2012.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Seattle City Council
TU Cher
 

Michele Wilkinson (106)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:45 am
Noted and signed.
Thanks
 

Mike H. (221)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:48 am
Michael, You signed on December 9, 2012.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Seattle City Council
 

Julie E. (345)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:53 am
Noted and signed.
 

Nyack Clancy (435)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 11:03 am
noted and signed- thank you Cher
 

Bartlomiej T. (307)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 11:11 am
Signed & noted. Thank you
 

Jerry B. (120)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 11:31 am
Signed and Noted, thanks Cher!
 

Rebecca B. (0)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 11:52 am
Signed, the most humbling thing for me was being there with family and having one of the elephants watch us for a while. They are in a space smaller than I've ever kept my horses in. Very sad, I hope that at the very least this gives the zoo or the city some pause to reconsider how they are handled.
 

Cyrille D. (121)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:02 pm
Noted & Signed ! Thank you for taking action ! :)
 

Debbie W. (115)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:14 pm
Noted/Signed
 

DAVID LAIRD (0)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:17 pm
SIGNED
 

Donna Hamilton (140)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:19 pm
Noted and signed. Thanks, Cher.
 

Cheriann P. (17)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:27 pm
Noted & signed. L♥ve ☮ Peace.
 

tasunka m. (334)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:34 pm
signed ty Cher
 

Dotti Lydon (116)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:36 pm
OMG and I live in Seattle. Have never been to that Zoo. I signed and will be looking for updates.
 

kye j. (41)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:42 pm
Signed
 

Sheila D. (25)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:45 pm
Noted and signed. Thanks Cher.
 

Darlene B. (290)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:45 pm
Noted and signed--bless all who love Mother Earth and her inhabitants.
 

Lisa Neste (699)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 12:51 pm

Lisa, You signed on December 9, 2012.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Seattle City Council
 

Russie C. (4)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:06 pm
signed of course, send these abused elephants to a nice sanctuary, they deserve to live the rest of their lives in nice conditions, the people housing and treating elephants this way I hope they get paid back someday in someway.
 

Marliese B. (63)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:12 pm
Thank you. Noted and signed!
 

Thomas P. (468)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:13 pm
Noted and signed...thanks Cher
 

Franshisca Dearmas (91)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:20 pm
Noted and signed. TY
 

Henrik Thorsen (28)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:20 pm
Signed.
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:20 pm





Signed




 

Lois Jordan (55)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:34 pm
Signed & Noted. Thanks, Cher.
 

Tamara Noforwardsplz (185)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:36 pm
Noted, signed, twittered, fb and google shared. Comment below sent as well.

If you are not aware yet, then you should be made aware that all a.round the world people are recognizing that elephants absolutely do not belong in zoos or circuses. Elephants are a very social and intelligent breed of animal who are very susceptible to emotional and psychological distress and they are being subjected to a slow and agonizing death when kept in the conditions which are common in zoos. The time has come for all zoos to release any elephants that they are holding to a safe and healthy sanctuary that is capable of providing for their special needs. It is cruel and abusive to continue to hold these majestic animals purely for profit. I respectfully request that you release Bamboo, Chai and Watoto for the sake of their health and emotional well being.
 

DORIS L. (61)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:43 pm
Signed.
 

Christeen Anderson (490)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 1:48 pm
Signed.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 2:22 pm
signed stop going to zoos
 

Ruth M. (252)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 2:39 pm
Signed
 

Ann Breeden (65)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:12 pm
Signed and shared. Seattle is a rich city and they have NO EXCUSE! No zoos should have elephants anymore, even the National Zoo. This country needs to set up larger accredited sanctuaries for all the elephants to live out their lives with dignity.
 

Florence Eaise (132)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:13 pm
wll said Tamara i agree completely NO animal belongs in a zoo or even in captivity but a elephant?? there just isnt enough space and that the least of the problems so signed shared tweeted and g+ thanks
 

Dan S. (9)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:20 pm
Sigo. Thanks Cher!
 

Marlene Dinkins (233)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:27 pm
Noted and signed!!! thnx, i hope help be posible for this babies!!!!!
 

Barbara Erdman (63)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:28 pm
N&S Cher :0 Tnx
 

Mariette G. (150)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:31 pm
Signed, thanks Cher!
 

samantha l (0)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:48 pm
Signed!
 

Karen B. (8)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 3:59 pm
Sadly signed.!!!!
 

Ellen G. (340)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 4:26 pm
signed
 

janet f. (29)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 4:29 pm
Elephants should not be kept in zoos. They're too big and too few zoos have enough room for them to live a happy life.
 

Pat B. (354)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 4:37 pm
TY, Cher. Done.
 

Betty G. (619)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 5:34 pm
Thank you, Cher. I have signed, of course!
 

Alison A. (234)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 6:03 pm
Signed and noted, thanks Cher.
 

Eternal Gardener (743)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 6:08 pm
N&S
 

Sandra S. (126)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 7:41 pm
signed/shared,xxx
 

Shirley S. (174)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 8:18 pm
S&N
 

Harshiita Sharma (138)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 8:20 pm
done
 

. (5)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 8:50 pm
Noted, already signed, thanks.
 

Gloria Morotti (1)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 9:03 pm
Signed.
 

Lydia w. (172)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 9:15 pm
Signed, Thanks
 

Intan Surya Dawood (3)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:23 pm
Noted and signed.
 

karen n. (57)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:49 pm
signed and noted :)
 

Charlie Rush (54)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 10:52 pm
How much more do we need to know, about ainimal abuse?
 

rene davis (74)
Sunday December 9, 2012, 11:30 pm
sadly signed.
 

Leslene Dunn (74)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:03 am
Signed and noted - how despicable of humans - little wonder they are not my favourite people.
 

Ana R (220)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:12 am
Done!
Thank you.
 

Kim O. (399)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:24 am
#670 signed in! Thanks Cher
 

Diane L. (110)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:50 am
Cramped? Hardly. Before people react with the kneejerk emotional responses, why not check out the facts for yourself?

http://elephants.zoo.org/exhibit.html
 

Danuta Watola (1198)
Monday December 10, 2012, 1:39 am
noted
 

Andrea Nemec (219)
Monday December 10, 2012, 2:03 am
Noted and signed! Thanks!
 

Diane L. (110)
Monday December 10, 2012, 2:30 am
Here is another link to a story about Woodland Park Zoo's elephants, and written by experts........of course, if you have no interest in facts, just want to react to a bunch of misconstrued rumors written by somebody with absolutely NO knowledge of the truth as pertaining to this situation, don't bother..........

http://seattletimes.com/html/opinion/2019857208_liddellslinkerzooopedxml.html

.....everyone who belongs to Care.2 (with a few exceptions, I'll guess) are for improving conditions for animals everywhere, and that includes zoos. They are not ideal, but facts are that conditions in the wild for most of these creatures is no longer "ideal". I can't believe 70 people have blindly signed a petition about a situation that doesn't exist as stated and blindly follow whatever they read in Care.2. I used to wonder WHY so many Jews died in Nazi Germany. Human behavior sometimes is amazing. I'm not comparing members here to victims of Nazi Germany, just the behavior of following whatever they're told without questionining it.
 

John S. (303)
Monday December 10, 2012, 4:37 am
Signed and noted.
 

Marie Therese Hanulak (30)
Monday December 10, 2012, 4:55 am
Uterly disgusting! Some humans don't deserve to live.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday December 10, 2012, 5:38 am
Done
 

Past Member (0)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:06 am
noted + signed
 

Ruth S. (307)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:09 am
Signed
 

Dianne D. (463)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:30 am
signed
 

Tim L. (86)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:32 am
Signed and noted.
Thanks
 

Gloria picchetti (290)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:56 am
Signed.
 

Unnikrishnan Sasidharan (48)
Monday December 10, 2012, 7:02 am
S+N
 

Veronique L. (213)
Monday December 10, 2012, 7:59 am
Signed!
 

Kathleen R. (138)
Monday December 10, 2012, 8:43 am
signed & noted
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Monday December 10, 2012, 9:00 am
Signed
 

Valerie H. (135)
Monday December 10, 2012, 9:09 am
Thank you, signed
 

Ela V. (84)
Monday December 10, 2012, 9:34 am
noted&signed
 

Birgitta S. (231)
Monday December 10, 2012, 9:41 am
n+s TY
 

Carol D. (109)
Monday December 10, 2012, 10:55 am
How can you keep animals in these conditions Do animals deserve less respect Please do something about the conditions for the elephants in this zoo The world is reading this and they wont like what they read Please give these elephants a decent home somewhere else if you cannot look after them properly Laws should be passed to stop zoos etc from keeping animals in these conditions Please think of Bamboo Chai and Watoto with compassion and help them now and give them a decent life have signed
 

Kimberly B. (120)
Monday December 10, 2012, 11:45 am
Signed and noted, thank you Cher.
 

Ludger W. (72)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:00 pm
done
 

Wim Zunnebeld (144)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:19 pm
S&N
 

Wim Zunnebeld (144)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:20 pm
S&N
 

Yvonne F. (172)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:40 pm
Signed!!! Thanks Cher
 

Ana Fontan (16)
Monday December 10, 2012, 12:57 pm
Noted and signed, thank you Cher
 

Aaron Bouchard (130)
Monday December 10, 2012, 1:24 pm
Signed and noted thanks
 

Emma S. (227)
Monday December 10, 2012, 1:40 pm
Done! Thanks, Cher.
 

Hristina Boncheva (0)
Monday December 10, 2012, 2:13 pm
Done :)
 

Michela m. (3925)
Monday December 10, 2012, 2:18 pm

S&N
 

Franshisca Dearmas (91)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:52 pm
Noted and signed. TY
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Monday December 10, 2012, 3:56 pm
Signed , thanks !
 

Joy McR (131)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:00 pm
Thank you, signed and noted...
 

Michael Carney (209)
Monday December 10, 2012, 6:39 pm
Noted, and gladly signed...Very disturbing what they do with these noble creatures...
 

Kay M. (351)
Monday December 10, 2012, 7:24 pm
done.
 

Ana Pires (8)
Monday December 10, 2012, 7:29 pm
unfortunately, things like this still happen in these days, so we have to sign petitions like this. Sadly signed, hopefully shared...
 

Amanda Adams (201)
Monday December 10, 2012, 7:40 pm
Signed!!
 

Jules W. (61)
Monday December 10, 2012, 8:56 pm
Signed. Thanks Cher.
 

Kathy Chadwell (367)
Monday December 10, 2012, 9:35 pm
signed shared on facebook and twitters
 

Fran away F. (111)
Monday December 10, 2012, 9:43 pm
Fran, You signed on December 10, 2012.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Seattle City Council

Thanks!
 

Marsha Andrews (60)
Monday December 10, 2012, 10:10 pm
I'm finding out that one has to be cautious on the legitimacy of information on care2. Check out this web-site on Woodland Park Zoo - mighty happy looking elephants to me.

http://elephants.zoo.org/exhibit.html
 

Esther Z. (101)
Monday December 10, 2012, 11:51 pm
Noted and signed.
 

Wim Zunnebeld (144)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 1:19 pm
Signed
 

LMj Sunshine (125)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 2:24 pm
TY!
 

Sara W. (110)
Tuesday December 11, 2012, 9:52 pm
Signed.
 

Arild Warud (164)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:18 am
Signed,TY Cher.
 

Michael Holland (9)
Friday December 14, 2012, 3:56 pm
Signed and noted. I hope they will do the humane thing and send these elephants to a sanctuary.
 

Amy E. (66)
Friday December 14, 2012, 4:36 pm
N/s
 

mariana c. (21)
Friday December 14, 2012, 7:11 pm
Signed and noted.
 

Linda Jarsky (0)
Friday December 14, 2012, 8:05 pm
If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.
---St. Francis of Assisi
 

Tammy Taylor (12)
Friday December 14, 2012, 8:13 pm
If I could have I would have signed that petition a million times ... why are human beings so cruel, the story about the elephants lives or lack of is disgusting ... I pray to God that this petition goes through!
 

Tammy Taylor (12)
Friday December 14, 2012, 8:28 pm
We are such a cruel species ...
 

alicia m. (100)
Friday December 14, 2012, 11:07 pm
noted, signed, shared, gracias
 

Antonio Caprari (31)
Friday December 14, 2012, 11:24 pm
Why try to breed elephants in a USA zoo by artificial insemination when hundreds of elephants are culled in game reserves in Africa due to their over population on limited space? The confinement of these majestic animals that need vast areas of land to roam serves no purpose other than for the amusement of an uneducated public.
 

Diane L. (110)
Friday December 14, 2012, 11:47 pm
Antonio, I do hope you realize that elephants are not over-populated in the wild in Africa................they are becoming scarcer and scarcer due to loss of habitat and poaching. There is a huge difference between a "game reserve" and a sanctuary and the elephants in Woodland Park are not being over-bred, and Chai is an Asian Elephant in the first place. She has had one calf, that unfortunately died very early on to a naturally occurring virus. The gestation period for elephants is 22 months (almost two years) and the cows only breed two or three times in their lifetime in the wild. So, in the wild you could find a herd of females where there are 3 generations. They don't breed like "rats" even in the best conditions.
 

Erin Walden (16)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 12:02 am
Signed
 

Emilia Boccagna (14)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 2:39 am
done
 

federico bortoletto (34)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 5:07 am
Notato,firmato e condiviso. Grazie Cher.
 

Donnaa D. (13)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 5:07 pm
done shared
 

mary a. (2)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 5:23 pm
big animal...big space
 

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 8:05 pm
noted and signed
 

Lisa Zarafonetis (177)
Sunday December 16, 2012, 6:26 pm
Signed & Shared
 

Gina M. (0)
Monday December 17, 2012, 9:53 am
All these so called "humans" who are responsible for the suffering of animals in zoos, should be caged and treated exactly like these poor helpless, innocent creatures!!!! As for the people who visit these horror chambers, I wish the same upon you!!!!!
 

Carol H. (229)
Tuesday December 18, 2012, 6:55 am
signed and noted
 

Amanda M. (0)
Wednesday December 19, 2012, 10:00 pm
First of all, I did not sign this petition blindly.
The elephants in WPZ do suffer. They are restricted to an area about 1 acre in size, absolutely minuscule in comparison to the acreage they would cover in just one day in their natural habitat. It may not be ideal for them to be in their natural habitat, but there are still better options (such as a sanctuary) out there for them. I have been to this zoo, I have seen these elephants in their enclosure, I have seen the rocking, limping. And on a side note, EEHV, the viral disease responsible for Chai's calf's death is not naturally occurring in Asian elephants, it is transmissible only in captivity via African elephants (in whom it does naturally occur), thus directly the result of having them in the zoo.
 

Diane L. (110)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 12:27 am
Amanda, may I ask how long ago you visited WPZ? i GUESS you know far more than the experts n elephants, specifically the veterinarian who posted information about the death of Chai's calf than he does. The elephants had far more than 1 acre last time I was there, and I will readily admit that was before they remodeled it and increased the space. Of course it is not as vast as it would be in the wild, but do you not understand that their natural habitat (In Asia, IN the wild) is disappearing quickly? Whatever they have is better than the alternative and sure, there may be a sanctuary somewhere that will take them. That does not change the facts that what they have now, while not "ideal" is not what has been stated, either. I can see more than 1 acre in the photos on the WPZ website that pertains only to one part of their habitat. In weather like we've had in the last week, sure, may be that they are "restricted". So am I.
 

Amanda M. (0)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 8:50 am
Diane, I visited less than 1 year ago. Am I to GUESS that you are a property surveyor then? It has been stated that the outdoor area is 1 acre, and yes it is larger when you include the indoor enclosure, the "barn", where a vast 16-17' stall is available for each elephant. Do I know more than the vet that spoke on the death of Hansa? Maybe not, but am I a trained animal medical professional with a college education in the veterinary medicine field with access to a plethora of information on pathogenic organisms? Yes, I am. And even if it was stated that the virus is naturally occurring, that would not be false, it just wasn't elaborated on as to which species it affects naturally. My argument is simple: Is there a better place than WPZ for these elephants? Yes.
 

Diane L. (110)
Monday December 24, 2012, 4:28 am
Amanda, it has been more than 1 year since I've been to WPZ, but while your sarcasm was "duly noted", I don't have to be a surveyor to know what an acre of land looks like. I live in a rural area ON acreage and have for a long time. You say you have a college education in the "veterinary medicine field" but aren't a vet. That makes me ask just what your expertise IS, then? I don't want to turn this topic into a personal debate with you or anyone.

Yes, of course there would be a better place for these elephants.........in the WILD, but facts are, their natural habitat is being eliminated, and none of these animals came FROM the wild, or at least not to the extent they could survive there now. Chai was a year old when she was GIVEN to WPZ, by Thai Airlines. She couldn't survive in the wild, and sure, sanctuaries for all exotic species would be ideal, but then soon there would be no room left in sanctuaries and they only can support "X" number of animals. Most of us who still retain memories of visiting zoos as children would never have those memories, nor would our children or grandchildren have the experience. I don't know about you, but I can't afford to "vacation" everywhere all the animals I'd like to "encounter" live naturally.
 

Juliette Claparede (42)
Monday December 31, 2012, 9:57 am
Noted and signed !
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 2, 2013, 6:26 pm
Olivia, You signed on January 2, 2013.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Seattle City Council
 

Amanda M. (0)
Thursday January 3, 2013, 11:43 am
Diane:
"Woodland Park's exhibit exceeds minimum recommendations with a 1-acre outdoor area for its three elephants. The indoor barn is divided into four sections. The largest stall is 22 by 39 feet; the smallest is 22 by 14 feet.", as reported by MIchael J Berens of the Seattle Times. I imagine his ability to check facts exceeds judgement by sight alone. Chai was taken from her mother, as a "gift" or whatever terrible name you call the act, still not even old enough to have been weaned from her mother. The wild is not an option for them, thanks to us, but a sanctuary is still better than WPZ. Yes, the sanctuaries may fill up, but instead of obtaining new elephants for your entertainment, eventually they can devote their resources to species preservation much unlike WPZ which claims to do but is doing them no favors.
I cannot afford vacations to most anywhere, but that does not mean I will teach my daughter that it's OK to point and stare at an animal in such deplorable conditions, put there just so others can point and stare.
 

Diane L. (110)
Thursday January 3, 2013, 10:29 pm
Amanda, I didn't comment (post my opinions) to engage you or argue with you. You obviously are basing your comments on your own beliefs as to what is adequate and what is not. You say because a Seattle Times reporter said something that it's factual? Did this guy measure the "stall"? Don't kid yourself, reporters screw up all the time. I'm sure you know who Steve Raible of KIRO TV is? I had an occasion this spring when the Black Bears that routinely come onto my property were more persistent and less afraid of humans than normal, and did a lot of property damage, even though I'd done everything I could to prevent that. Fish & Wildlife brought out a trap and caught one of the two cubs. They released him in Jefferson County, in National Forest. Before picking it up, they asked for and received permission to bring a news crew to my home and video the situation. Raible narrated the story for 2 days and he said the 2nd cub could be seen in the video. It was not the 2nd cub, it was my German Shepherd DOG! He was reading a prepared script provided by the reporter who came here and apparently the reporter didn't know the difference, either. The size of the stalls would matter mostly if they were the only enclosures available to their inhabitants. They aren't.

Yes, Chai was a "gift" from Thai Airlines. What does it matter if she was free or WPZ paid for her? She was a year old at the time. Should the zoo have refused the offer? What would then have happened to Chai? How do you know what the circumstances of her coming here were, or maybe she'd been an orphan or her Mother had died before she was a year old?

As for the staring and pointing, I'm sure you wouldn't be abusing your children to take them to a zoo where they can be introduced to species of animals they'll never see on their own where you live, and if you can't explain thngs in such a way that they don't TAUNT the animals, that doesn't say much about your parenting abilities. I point and stare at many things............both beautiful animals, strange animals and sometimes beautiful scenery. I'm betting the animals don't give a rip about being "stared" at, and many truly enjoy the attention.
 

Amanda M. (0)
Friday January 4, 2013, 8:04 pm
Diana:
1.) You did in fact engage me by addressing me personally after I posted my own opinion.
2.) You also referred to a Seattle Times Post in an earlier comment in an attempt to lead people to actual "facts", so do not contradict yourself by saying my doing so was ill-founded.
3.) My parenting skills are admirable; I strive to teach my daughter compassion,. kindness, fairness, and respect. All things a zoo like WPZ lacks while trying to profit from the captivity of elephants.
 

Diane L. (110)
Friday January 4, 2013, 8:45 pm
Oh, MY! Amanda, yes, I used your username in a response to YOUR comment which was one I disagreed with to some extent, so it was used to make clear exactly who I was referring to and why I disagreed. That was NOT "engaging" you in that it was not hostile, not negative towards you, personally and I was very polite. Now, it seems, you simply want to argue with me about something that you disagree with me about.........animal welfare and what is or is not suitble.

Yes, I posted links to the newspaper which do NOT suggest unsuitable conditions at all. There is obviously going to be a difference of opinion regarding the situation, even if you and I met for lunch somewhere near the park and went there together with a video camera and measuring tape. I didn't put your parenting skills down in any way. I said that if you think it's not proper for children to point and stare at what they are OOHING & AAAHING about, that is a difference in opinion between you and me about parenting. I said you would not be ABUSING your children by taking them to the zoo and iIF you can't explain things to them in such a way that they weren't TAUNTING the animals, then maybe that says something about such parenting skills. Sorry your reading comprehension skills also are far different from mine, and it seems you aren't interested in a civil discussion, nor can you comprehend that there is more than one way to view things, which does not make one that is different than yours, the wrong way. See, you didn't even get my name correct, so you might start with that before trying to throw negative comments at me.
 

Nyack Clancy (435)
Friday January 4, 2013, 8:56 pm
Update- from Friends of the Woodland Zoo Elephants

Editorial: Protecting Seattle’s Aging Elephants

Posted on 31 Dec 2012

http://www.freewpzelephants.com/
 

Valerie Disle (66)
Saturday February 23, 2013, 3:23 pm
signed and shared
 

Amanda M. (0)
Thursday April 4, 2013, 11:26 pm
Not only is WPZ abusing elephants... http://www.idausa.org/ida-questions-monkey-death-at-woodland-park-zoo/. When will people realize that this environment is not suitable for anyone?
 

Diane L. (110)
Friday April 5, 2013, 9:11 pm
According to the article (and there are several available online), the medical attention was provided as soon as staff was available to do so. How else would you suggest catching a monkey that doesn't want to be caught unless shot with a tranquiller gun? Nets are often if not ROUTINELY used. It's one of the safest and most humane methods, requiring no chemicals, no "reversal" shots and less trauma to the animal when it requires simply moving from one area to another and doesn't require completely immobilization.
 
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