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Say NO to Horse Slaughter Factory in Nevada ! PLEASE SIGN ! !


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Cher Away
- 556 days ago - thepetitionsite.com
Tell the Governor to stop capturing and selling his state's wild horses at livestock auctions and not to allow slaughter plants in Nevada. 70% of wild horse herds have been reduced below genetic viability level- it is time to protect them, not slaughter



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Pat B. (354)
Friday January 18, 2013, 6:33 am
TY, Cher. Done.
 

Erin R. (170)
Friday January 18, 2013, 6:39 am
N & S
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Friday January 18, 2013, 6:46 am
Noted and signed- Thank you Cher
 

NicoleAWAY W. (629)
Friday January 18, 2013, 6:52 am
signed and shared, thank you Cher
 

Birgitta S. (221)
Friday January 18, 2013, 7:11 am
s
 

Christeen Anderson (479)
Friday January 18, 2013, 7:24 am
Signed.
 

Penny C. (79)
Friday January 18, 2013, 7:31 am
done.
 

Thomas P. (468)
Friday January 18, 2013, 7:32 am
Noted and signed...thanks Cher
 

Lisa Neste (695)
Friday January 18, 2013, 7:38 am
Lisa, You signed on January 18, 2013.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval
 

Constance F. (436)
Friday January 18, 2013, 7:41 am
Signed, thank you ! Boycott that bloody state. Don't go to Vegas !
 

Daniel Partlow (189)
Friday January 18, 2013, 7:52 am
S&N
 

Vicki P. (132)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:01 am
Signed with thanks
 

Sara W. (110)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:37 am
Gladly signed.
 

Terrie Williams (761)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:50 am
#29 Signed, noted and shared on FB
 

Sue H. (7)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:58 am
Noted and signed, thanks.
 

tasunka m. (333)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:01 am
signed. Thanks Cher
 

Past Member (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:06 am
Armand, You signed on January 18, 2013.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval
TU Cher
 

Mike H. (217)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:21 am
Signed thanks
 

Rock H. (254)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:54 am
Signed and noted. Thanks Cher!
 

Julie E. (330)
Friday January 18, 2013, 10:06 am
Julie, You signed on January 18, 2013.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval
 

Donna Hamilton (135)
Friday January 18, 2013, 10:27 am
Noted and signed. Thanks.
 

naomi cohen (60)
Friday January 18, 2013, 11:11 am
done. thank you, cher.
 

Natasha Salgado (511)
Friday January 18, 2013, 11:34 am
Signed,thanks. NO MORE HORSE SLAUGHTER,PLEASE.
 

Aaron Bouchard (125)
Friday January 18, 2013, 12:16 pm
Signed and noted thanks
 

Dianne D. (455)
Friday January 18, 2013, 12:24 pm
signed
 

David Menard (43)
Friday January 18, 2013, 12:32 pm
N&S
 

Ron Silver (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 12:41 pm
signed
 

Emma S. (225)
Friday January 18, 2013, 12:48 pm
Already signed! Thanks, Cher.
 

DORIS L. (61)
Friday January 18, 2013, 12:51 pm
Signed.
 

Gysele van Santen (210)
Friday January 18, 2013, 12:51 pm
signed, thnx.
 

Carol Bischoff (370)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:10 pm
Noted and signed.
 

samantha l (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:36 pm
Signed!
 

Angeles Madrazo (292)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:38 pm
Signed!
 

Muriel Servaege (39)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:50 pm
Already signed.
 

DAVID LAIRD (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:51 pm
SIGNED AND SHARED
 

Agnes Wojciechowska (152)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:51 pm
signed
 

Ana Fontan (16)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:55 pm
Done, thank you!
 

Cheriann P. (17)
Friday January 18, 2013, 1:55 pm
Noted and signed. L♥ve ☮ Peace.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Friday January 18, 2013, 2:15 pm
signed and commented
 

Bartlomiej T. (307)
Friday January 18, 2013, 2:50 pm
Signed & noted. Thanks, Cher!
 

paula eaton (30)
Friday January 18, 2013, 3:13 pm
Signed. The anti horse movement needs to be stopped & cruel policies make this an uphill battle. The livestock industry has $ and politicians in their pockets.
 

Hugo L. (281)
Friday January 18, 2013, 3:32 pm
Signed and noted..thanks Cher!
 

Robert Tomlinson (64)
Friday January 18, 2013, 3:49 pm
Signed and Noted!
 

Pamela W. (75)
Friday January 18, 2013, 4:10 pm
Gladly signed and commented petition. Noted too. Don't they realise if it wasn't for the ancestors of these horses, there would be no U.S.A. ? This is a huge part of America's heritage they're destroying !!!!!!!!
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 4:24 pm
Signed
 

Past Member (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 4:45 pm
signed and e-mailed governor........I am a horse rancher and I detest this horse slaughter.we have no respect for anything pure and wild in this country or planet for that matter. MAN is a scourge here and the planet would have been better off with out humankind............Horses came here to help us and this is how we repay them.....I have done rescue and I can tell you that here in Idaho they will kill eat or meme anything on 4 legs........despicable people.the only way you stop it is to play politics with the politicians by twisting their arm
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 5:04 pm
Signed
 

tasunka m. (333)
Friday January 18, 2013, 5:26 pm
Well said Pamela.
Horse is my name's meaning.
The horse helped build this country. THEY ARE THE SLAVES OF THE DOMESTIC ANIMAL WORLD.
 

Trish K. (93)
Friday January 18, 2013, 5:32 pm
Never had a better day setting in my nieces living room listening to her play the piano as I watched the herd of Wild Horse navigate the brush and sand for their foals as they traveled from the bottom of the mountain to the wooden fence outside my nieces window where they congregate at least once a day just for the shade.
Wild Life is best when left alone and not eaten.
 

Dotti Lydon (116)
Friday January 18, 2013, 5:41 pm
Signed for sure. Thank you Cher.
 

Tamara Noforwardsplz (185)
Friday January 18, 2013, 5:47 pm
Noted, signed, twittered and google shared as well as comment below sent. Thanks for Chering.

Why are you condemning these beautiful wild horses to livestock auctions where they will most likely end up at a slaughter house? It is past time to stop killing all of our wild animals. And there is absolutely no way I will support any slaughter houses in the United States. You cannot allow this to happen. It took us far too long to get them all shut down. Why are you so kill happy? Do you really want your tourist trade to suffer? Because it will when the public becomes more aware of your wild horse captures and what actually happens to these horses.
 

Sheila D. (24)
Friday January 18, 2013, 6:26 pm
Noted and signed. Thanks Cher.
 

Carol H. (229)
Friday January 18, 2013, 6:38 pm
signed and noted
 

. (3)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:15 pm
Noted, already signed, thanks.
 

Ann Breeden (65)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:25 pm
Signed. No horse slaughter in the U.S..
 

Esther Z. (101)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:43 pm
Note and signed.
 

Anne S. (14)
Friday January 18, 2013, 8:59 pm
Signed
 

janet f. (29)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:00 pm
signed
 

Amy E. (66)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:25 pm
N/s
 

Christine Stewart (131)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:27 pm
Signed!
 

Diane L. (110)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:36 pm
Aleady have my hard hat on, since I know I'm going to be bashed for saying this............but FACTS are that horses are going to be sent to slaughter anyway, and at the present time, that means transporting 2500 miles to either Canada or Mexico, both places have few regulations and the conditions are horrific. I view this as a step in the right direction since I think having "the end" in a closer place to where the animals are, and having controls in place as to how that end is obtained is far preferable than the present situation. There will always be a market for horseflesh. The prohibition of slaughter in the U.S. is akin to banning abortion and sending it back to the basements of butchers.
 

Joan M. (1091)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:41 pm
Signed & Noted. Thanks Cher
 

Marie W. (64)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:43 pm
S&N
 

Romila Lal (9)
Friday January 18, 2013, 9:59 pm
Shame on them who are doing this disgusting act on horses, please stop this action on horses.
 

Shirley S. (172)
Friday January 18, 2013, 10:46 pm
Noted & signed
 

Unnikrishnan Sasidharan (48)
Friday January 18, 2013, 10:48 pm
S+N
 

Roger M. (0)
Friday January 18, 2013, 10:50 pm
Signed.
 

BarbKnight SunshineLady (1634)
Friday January 18, 2013, 10:57 pm
Signed #669!! Thnx Cher!! I LOVE HORSES!!
 

Kim O. (403)
Friday January 18, 2013, 11:17 pm
Definitely signed for the horses. Senseless murder as far as I'm concerned. Thanks Cher
 

desanka s. (379)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 12:08 am
Done! TY Cher
 

Ana R (220)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 12:50 am
Done with hope
Thank you, Cher!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 1:36 am
noted + signed
 

Jaya Sinha (26)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 1:53 am
signed.
 

Victoria Pohrebna (269)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:03 am
Victoria, You signed on January 19, 2013.
 

Veronique L. (209)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:13 am
Signed with great hope...
 

Michele Wilkinson (106)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:22 am
Noted and signed.
Thanks
 

Andrea Nemec (219)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:30 am
Noted and signed! Thanks!
 

Ludger W. (72)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:48 am
done
 

Joy Wong (73)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 3:30 am
Noted and signed.
 

Danuta Watola (1180)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 3:59 am
noted
 

Jan Garen (76)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 4:28 am
As if there is not enough slaughter for food without adding wild horses to the list.
 

Wendy F. (41)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 4:32 am
Signed
 

Klaus Peters (9)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 4:32 am
Noted and signed.
Thakx.
 

Ilona a. (51)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 4:37 am
signed and noted,thanks
 

Joe R. (189)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 5:55 am
Thanks Cher. Signed and noted.
 

paul m. (93)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:02 am

Had Signed,,,This is ..Cruel....
 

Gloria picchetti (287)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:07 am
Signed. I hope the horses haunt the BLM, the ranchers, the slaughterers, and the sellers.
 

Debbie Williamson (261)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 7:32 am
signed, thank you
 

Bruno Moreira (61)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 8:00 am
TY
 

. (0)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 8:43 am
Signed and Noted.
 

Ruth S. (314)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 8:45 am
Signed

Bucephala, or Alexandria Bucephalus, was a city founded by Alexander the Great and named in honor of his horse, Bucephalus.

So much he cared (Alexander the Great) for his friend that he gave him the Honor of naming a city after him, I have never seen or heard of someone giving that kind of Honor to a Horse!!

I see the Cruelty in which theHorses are being treated and it just breaks my heart, because if it was not for the Horse there would be no world, it was with the Horse that people were able to conquered the world, and this is how they pay them back? by mistreating, abusing and killing their sons and daughters with no remorse, how SHAMEFUL!!!
 

Valerie H. (134)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 8:53 am
Thank you, signed
 

Veerle V. (41)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 9:02 am
Signed and shared, thanks.
 

Debbie W. (113)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 9:26 am
Noted/Signed
 

Elizabeth O. (88)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:00 am
Signed.
 

Kerstin Strobl (330)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:01 am
signed, thank you Cher
 

Henrik Thorsen (28)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:07 am
Signed.
 

Barbara Erdman (63)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:27 am
N & S Cher :-0 Tnx
 

Kay M. (351)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:47 am
done
 

aj E. (163)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 11:20 am
signed.
 

Jason Green (227)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 11:33 am
thanks for signing!
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 12:30 pm
thanks signed and noted
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 2:18 pm
Signed yesterday. Not one of our animal relatives is here to be slaughtered. What we to do them will be done to us.
 

Mia Bozhyk (98)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 3:20 pm
n & s, thank you Cher!!
 

Helen Porter (41)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 3:28 pm
Lete the horses, who have served us throughout the ages, live and frolic in peace.
 

Bonita Annis (20)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 3:35 pm
Noted,signed,shared on FB..
 

Sandra S. (122)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 3:52 pm
signed/shared,xxx
 

Valentina M. (0)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 4:51 pm
Done!
 

Eternal Gardener (703)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 5:23 pm
N&S
 

Megan Beery (18)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:01 pm
Signed and noted.
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:18 pm
SO SIGNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............AND I NEED 1 MILLION MORE!!!...THAT ARE LOGICAL AND EFFECTIVE, NOW!!!!!!!!...NOT LATER!!!!! PLEASE &THANKYOU!!!
 

NoMailPlease M. (446)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:24 pm
Dang sick and just signed on and saw this. ABSOLUTELY signed and will forward. Fooey, can't type fast enough on this. Thank you Cher for getting this out. ENOUGH ALREADY AGAINST THESE HORSES!
 

Linda Jarsky (0)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 6:29 pm

"It is man's sympathy with all creatures that first makes him truly a man --- Dr. Albert Schweitzer..."
 

Ralph F. (64)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 7:14 pm
Noted & signed.
 

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 8:07 pm
noted and signed
 

Sandy G. (35)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 8:25 pm
Signed!
 

Ingrid A. (530)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 9:00 pm
Its done.
 

Vicynthia Tjahjadi (57)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 9:07 pm
Done. Thanks.
 

Julia R. (287)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 10:47 pm
Signed, Noted & Shared! How shameful that these horses who are such a part of our legacy are being treated with no humanity nor respect for their lives! We must tell the governor of Nevada that we will not tolerate the extermination of these beautiful horses and we will not accept horse slaughtering plants brought back to Nevada or indeed any state!
 

Diane L. (110)
Saturday January 19, 2013, 11:26 pm
Ruth S., your "history lesson" is flawed. Alexandria was named for Alexander, and yes, Alexander had a magnificent black horse named Bucephalus. That was in the year 300 B.C. It has nothing to do with NOW, nor with Nevada, nor with wild horses.

The Wild Horse Act of 1971 prohibits the rounding up and sending to slaughter any wild horses. Salazar and the BLM have violated this Federal Act by doing so. The slaughter of horses in and of itself has it's necessary reasons, but to round up wild mustangs is very much unneeded and is violating the laws as they now stand, period.
 

Ruth S. (314)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 4:19 am
Diane L, are you off your Meds again, dear dear, you need a lot of help!

Maybe you should see the movie the War Horse before you talk!

The world was conquered by the Horse!!
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 4:37 am
Oh MY Ruth, you certainly don't understand about civility in the slightest, do you? I not only have seen the movie, I OWN it. It was about WWI and took place in 1917. I think the "world" had long since been "conquered" and not by horses. HUMANS who rode horses, as well as other animals conquered other civilizations. Please read a bit of history. Check Wikipedia and a dozen other sources as to how Alexandria, EGYPT got it's name. Alexander's horse had NOTHING to do with the naming of the city. Several other cities he "conquered" were also named after him. His ego had no bounds, apparently. If you ever do read about the history of the time, Alexander's horse died as a result of fighting in India, where the military or warriors were mounted on elephants.
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 5:30 am
Sends a star to Ruth for tolerating the abuse that goes along with simply signing a petition.
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 5:40 am
And as far as Florence goes- I would please like to see the other "original" petition calling on the Governor to say NO to Horse Slaughter Factories in Nevada.

I have signed others- calling for and end to Horse Slaughter- but I have never seen another on asking for NO Horse Slaughter Factory, they are attempting to construct.

So? Please be a sweetie for the horses and post that "ORIGINAL" petition you signed calling for NO HORSE SLAUGHTER FACTORY IN NEVADA, so we all can sign it,

Thanks!
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 5:45 am
Please dont forget to post that petition, Florence!

Because, as I am sure as you are aware- the more petitions we get on an issue, the better! That is how activism works! I am looking forward to signing any from ForceChange, or Change.org, or Credo, or Aavez.

Will be looking forward to noting your news and signing the petition you post for us to stop the Slaughter Factory.
 

Ruth S. (314)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 5:48 am
Diane L, that's okay your Doctor should increase your Medication, your in need of it.
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 5:56 am
Geeeeee Florence! You must have connection to some really special petition to Stop The Horse Slaughter FACTORY in Nevada, because I search both Google and Yahoo and haven't been able to find it yet!
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:03 am
Nyack, quick question here? Would you rather see horses sent to slaughter within a few miles of where they live or would you rather see them shipped 2500 miles to slaughter in another country, where there are few, if any regulations and controls? As it stands now, the options for those who don't want their horses anymore is to ship them (usually under horrible conditions) to either Canada or Mexico. There will never be NO need for humane horse slaughter as there will always be those who own horses that are irresponsible. Think about this carefully. I think many here are being "fooled" into believing the Governor here is advocating for rounding up BLM Mustangs in Nevada, as after all, that's what the photo implies. Right now, it's illegal to round up BLM Mustangs with any intent to send to slaughter and that is absolutely illegal under the Horse Protection Act of 1971. Ken Salazar was allowing this to happen (under the table) and thank GOD, this man is on his way OUT! Hopefully, his replacement will be much kinder to the environment and to wildlife.

BTW, nobody here said a single word to Ruth for signing a petition. If you read what she said to me, it was uncalled for. Her "history" is flawed, and that is the only thing I brought to her attention. It certainly did not condone an attack on my non-use of "meds".

It's also my understanding that a petition with many signatures carries a lot more weight than many with few signatures. I've already seen several come thru Care.2. I may be mistaken, but that is what I've read.
 

Ruth S. (314)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:18 am
Diane L
Here is my proof, were is yours!

Alexandria Bucephalous, or Alexandria Bucephalus or Alexandria Bucephala or Bucephala or Bucephalia, was a city founded by Alexander the Great in memory of his beloved horse Bucephalus. Founded in May 326 BC, the town was located on the Hydaspes (Jhelum River), east of the Indus River. Bucephalus had died after the Battle of the Hydaspes in 326 BC. The garrison was settled with Greek and Iranian veterans plus natives. It had large dockyards, suggesting it was intended as a center of commerce.
Across the river, the nearby town of Alexandria Nicaea was also founded on the battle site at that time.
The exact site of the city is still unknown but several locations have been proposed:
G.W.B. Huntingford identifies this Alexandria with a large mound west of Jhelum, a city 150 miles (242 km) south east of Peshawar, Pakistan. While Lendering cites Jhelum more generally.
The Hungarian archaeologist and Silk Road expert Sir Marc Aurel Stein believed that instead of the road from Taxila to Jhelum which dates from medieval times, Alexander's army went south to cross the river near modern Bhera. At this site the battle would have happened near the modern town of Mong. The topography, river orientation and natural features including salt cliffs in this vicinity match closely the description in ancient sources.
Further supporting this location is the claim by the residents of Mong and nearby Phalia that their towns are Nicaea and Bucephala.
The historian and BBC presenter Michael Wood supports Stein's claims for Nicaea at Mong, but proposes Garjak rather than Phalia for the location of Bucephila. Phalia is significantly distant at 17km and located east of the River when ancient sources agree it was on the west bank opposite Nicaea. Furthermore, archaeological finds at Garjak include Greek coins and ruins of an ancient Hindu temple with a burial stone in the shape of a horse. There is also a legend associated with Garjak regarding a magical horse.
Another less likely proposed site is near modern Jalalpur south of these sites where there are extensive but still un-excavated ruins. Tarn profits this site, which is not to be confused with the Jalalpur nearby on the Chenab river, which was a city of Alexander's contemporary Chandragupta Maurya. Eggermont disagrees with the Jalalpur identification arguing that the Jhelum river flowed far from this site in ancient times.
Local historian Mansoor Behzad Butt of Gujrat district supports the idea Bucephalus was buried in Jalalpur Sharif.
P. M. Fraser, a supporter of a Jhelum site concludes that only archeological excavation will settle the century old debate.
Irrespective of its location, Alexandria Bucephalous remained a significant centre for some time as it is mentioned in the Metz Epitome, and is shown on the late Roman Peutinger Table map. The 1st-century Periplus of the Erythraean Sea reads:
"The country inland of Barigaza is inhabited by numerous tribes, such as the Arattii, the Arachosii, the Gandaraei and the people of Poclais, in which is Bucephalus Alexandria"
—Periplus of the Erythraean Sea, 47
Several cities were named with the pre-name "Alexandria" during the period. Alexander the Great founded nearly 20 towns, but also renamed others for a total of about 70 towns reportedly (Pliny) named by him.
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:19 am
Yes, Dianne- there are HUNDREDS of petitions on Horse Slaughter- and from the more sources from which they come the better. It lets the target know many people from many avenues care. You don't think there has been ONE petition to stop the Drilling in the Arctic, or do you? Because hundreds or organizations have written one.- and that is how activism works. Of course, everyone uses their own words for the same issue.

But? There is NOT one to Stop the Horse Slaughter FACTORY in Nevada.

Secondly- I would like to see horse slaughter NOWHERE.
Here are the FACTS:

50:1 is the ratio of cattle to wild horses on public lands
5 out of 8 wild horses are stockpiled in government holding facilities
270,00 horses have been removed from public lands since 1971
22.2 million acres of wild horse and burro habitat has been lost since 1971
70% of wild horse herds have been reduced below genetic viability level


If you don't agree with the petition- then don't sign it. And what I see here- is you attacking Ruth- you usually attempt to make some feel stupid while gloating how intelligent you are. If you didn't want to engage with Ruth, you should not have addressed her- much like the same way you are trying to bait me by addressing me. But I know your game and will not be responding to you any further.
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:25 am
Nyack, I most certainly did not "engage" Ruth. I corrected her flawed history. I don't care who signs what petitions, and you are absolutely correct in that if I don't agree with the wording of one, I don't have to sign it and I did not sign this one for obvious reasons. I'm not trying to bait YOU at all. I simply can't understand why you would support by sending a GR and then announcing it publically that you support uncivility and referring to someone in need of "medication". That is such a clear violation of Care.2's CODE OF CONDUCT, it's not even funny.
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:35 am
Ruth, can you read Wikipedia? It's just one source of information of this subject. Alexander had a horse and he (the horse) was killed during battle in India, by warriors mounted on elephants. The city for which Alexander is named was not named for his horse, it was named for HIM. Do you want me to post the links for you, or can you merely "Google" them for yourself? Different websites state different dates........some say 332 B.C., others state 330 B.C. It really doesn't matter in the scheme of THIS discussion, nor is it relevant to the movie, War Horse, which you seemed to want to throw at me as being relevant. It wasn't. Joe, the horse in the movie, was involved in WWI and by then, the entire world had seen hundeds of wars. Horses were "tools", and they did not "conquer" anything but were used by humans in that endeavor, as were oxen and yes, in the case of the death of Bucephalus, elephants.

I have no idea why you try to mock my knowledge of horses, since I have had horses for decades, know probably a lot more about them than you, but that is also not relevant to this or any other discussion in Care.2.

You don't seem to comprehend the fact that I am not supporting the rounding up of wild mustangs and never have. You are quick to jump on anyone with whom you can't understand what they're saying and imply that THEY need "medication". You've done that same thing to other members when you don't understand what they are saying.

So, now, Ruth............do you want me to post links to back up what I'm saying as far as how Alexandria, Egypt got it's name? I can do that for you if you want, but it will have to wait until tomorrow. I have horses of my own to care for, and they are far more important to me than correcting your misunderstanding of facts.
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:35 am
Then don't sign it Dianne. I sent her a green star for letting us know "Bucephala, or Alexandria Bucephalus, was a city founded by Alexander the Great and named in honor of his horse, Bucephalus."

That's not flawed history- its quite accurate.

You are not here to sign the petition- but to look for a fight. Perhaps if it is not a medication problem for you (about letting everyone know how flawed, and unintelligent, and inferior they are)- then it some other condition- because the act of always being better than everyone else is grandiose.

Grandiosity is chiefly associated with narcissistic personality disorder, but also commonly features in manic or hypomanic episodes of bipolar disorder. Many people DO take medications for such behavior.
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:42 am
Yea- I know how to use Wikipedia- and here it is

Alexandria Bucephalous, or Alexandria Bucephalus or Alexandria Bucephala or Bucephala or Bucephalia, was a city founded by Alexander the Great in memory of his beloved horse Bucephalus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Bucephalous


Now? you are goinmg to say- Wikipedia is Flawed- Ruth is flawed, I am flawed the petition is flawed, horse slaughter is flawed....


EVERYTHING is flawed on this page... except Dianne. LOL. You really ought to think about that!

I would send Ruth another green if I could.
 

Ruth S. (314)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:42 am
Diane, IT WAS NOT IN EGYPT!!
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:45 am
Nyack, I'm off to tend my own horses, but for the record......your facts........and NO, I'm not here for a fight at all, just to post my opinion, and then was attacked for doing so...........and please, your last paragraph is extremely offensive and unsuitable. You are far from a medical expert, and you don't know me at all. That is really unacceptable for even you.


50:1 is the ratio of cattle to wild horses on public lands..........not all public lands ever have had wild horses on them and so that ratio is irrelevant. I'm also not in favor of even allowing cattle free grazing rights in the first place. It has little to do with this topic, however. Nevada is not condusive to raising cattle, either.

5 out of 8 wild horses are stockpiled in government holding facilities.........true, and that is a sad situation. They should not have been rounded up without adoptees on a waiting list.

270,00 horses have been removed from public lands since 1971.........again, I never said that was acceptable, and it is not.

22.2 million acres of wild horse and burro habitat has been lost since 1971........so has habitat for many wild creatures, and not relevant to the topic, actually.

70% of wild horse herds have been reduced below genetic viability level .......true, and unecessary. Wild horse populations could be far better controlled via gelding and making low-quality mares infertile thru darting. It was done with Cloud's herd in the Pryor Mtns. of Montana and it would work elsewhere.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:46 am
Olivia, You signed on January 20, 2013.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:46 am
Dont engage her Ruth- she wants to talk about everything EXCEPT

Say NO to Horse Slaughter Factory in Nevada
 

Nyack Clancy (428)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:49 am
Dianne?

You dont need to be a Medical Expert to know this- it is common knowledge. Just Google it!

Grandiosity is chiefly associated with narcissistic personality disorder, but also commonly features in manic or hypomanic episodes of bipolar disorder. Many people DO take medications for such behavior.
 

Wim Zunnebeld (144)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 9:19 am
S&N
 

Wim Zunnebeld (144)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 9:20 am
S&N
 

Ruth catchin up M. (252)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 12:08 pm
Signed & noted
 

Cher Away Personal Msgs ONLY (1466)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 2:11 pm


You cannot currently send a star to Nyack because you have done so within the last week.


Thnx for all your tireless efforts my dear friend!!


Love you!


 

Jane Mckenzie (20)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 3:00 pm
signed
 

Jane Mckenzie (20)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 3:02 pm
sad
 

Tal H. (8)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 4:03 pm
signed!
 

Kate A. (10)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 6:37 pm
S/N, thank you
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 9:29 pm
Nyack, you continued to disrespect me long after I signed off the internet, par for your course. I already said that Alexander named many cities after himself "as his ego apparently knew no bounds", but the Alexandria everyone is aware of is indeed in Egypt. I know where Bucephalus was killed. I have the books and yes, the movie based on his life, which is not 100% factual (the one with Colin Farrell). BTW, you never did answer my question about the horse slaughter plants. All you did was digress and try to change the topic. If you cared at all about the welfare of horses, in particular, those who are going to be sent to slaughter, and there always WILL BE horses sent to slaughter, would it not be more humane to have it done closer to where they were living? Anyone knowledgeable on the topic and anyone who cares about horses would agree that 2500 miles of transportation is not in the best interest of any animal.
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 9:35 pm
My first comment to Ruth.................."Please read a bit of history. Check Wikipedia and a dozen other sources as to how Alexandria, EGYPT got it's name Made long before the tirades suggesting I need "medication".............yes,there was an Alexandria named for him in Turkey and another in what is now Iraq and another in what used to be called "Persia" and a few more. Most were renamed after his death. Even Persia is no longer CALLED Persia, and none of that has a single thing to do with slaughtering horses in Nevada..
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday January 20, 2013, 9:45 pm
Okay, Nyack, I had missed Ruth's "factual explanation" of WHICH city she was talking about as it had been scrolled "up" by that time and I was commenting to you. Because I am fair-minded, I did read it.............so here goes what she said on the topic.............

"Alexandria Bucephalous, or Alexandria Bucephalus or Alexandria Bucephala or Bucephala or Bucephalia, was a city founded by Alexander the Great in memory of his beloved horse Bucephalus. Founded in May 326 BC, the town was located on the Hydaspes (Jhelum River), east of the Indus River. Bucephalus had died after the Battle of the Hydaspes in 326 BC. The garrison was settled with Greek and Iranian veterans plus natives. It had large dockyards, suggesting it was intended as a center of commerce.
Across the river, the nearby town of Alexandria Nicaea was also founded on the battle site at that time.
Alexandria Bucephalous, or Alexandria Bucephalus or Alexandria Bucephala or Bucephala or Bucephalia, was a city founded by Alexander the Great in memory of his beloved horse Bucephalus. Founded in May 326 BC, the town was located on the Hydaspes (Jhelum River), east of the Indus River. Bucephalus had died after the Battle of the Hydaspes in 326 BC. The garrison was settled with Greek and Iranian veterans plus natives. It had large dockyards, suggesting it was intended as a center of commerce.
Across the river, the nearby town of Alexandria Nicaea was also founded on the battle site at that time.
The exact site of the city is still unknown but several locations have been proposed:
G.W.B. Huntingford identifies this Alexandria with a large mound west of Jhelum, a city 150 miles (242 km) south east of Peshawar, Pakistan. While Lendering cites Jhelum more generally.
G.W.B. Huntingford identifies this Alexandria with a large mound west of Jhelum, a city 150 miles (242 km) south east of Peshawar, Pakistan. While Lendering cites Jhelum more generally.

.......apparently THIS city is virtually UNKNOWN and nobody even knows the site or if they do, it is under a ton of dispute. It also says it was supposedly founded by Alexander in the year 326 B.C., on a river few have ever heard of. Alexander died in Babylon in 323 B.C, and yes, I am aware that time goes backwards before "christ's" birth. I'm sure that any of us can scour ancient historical writings and come up with something else that nobody else is aware of and has nothing to do with this topic, which after all, none of this doesn't. The "Alexandria" that people know of is in Egypt and was named in honor of Alexander's influence in making it a major seaport, and the name is still the same. BTW, Iran and Pakistan are different countries, so just where WAS this city........." G.W.B. Huntingford identifies this Alexandria with a large mound west of Jhelum, a city 150 miles (242 km) south east of Peshawar, Pakistan. While Lendering cites Jhelum more generally."
 

Arild Warud (159)
Monday January 21, 2013, 4:03 am
Signed,TY Cher.
 

Diane L. (110)
Monday January 21, 2013, 4:07 am
"Dont engage her Ruth- she wants to talk about everything EXCEPT Say NO to Horse Slaughter Factory in Nevada"........on the contrary, Nyack, I was commenting originally on exactly that, and what obscure city may have been named after Alexander, the Great's horse has nothing to do with the discussion, nor does a Hollywood movie.

BTW, thank you for the lesson on mental disorders. I really have little interest in that explanation, nor does it have relevance to the topic, either. I guess you'd know more about such things and have some need to explain them to others? Just curious why it was said when you seem so focused on sticking to the subject at hand, which is a slaughter plant being considered in Nevada. There ARE discussions in Care.2 where you could share your knowledge of such things and still remain on topic, though )
 

Ruth S. (314)
Monday January 21, 2013, 4:59 am
Diane,
Okay MAMA, make sure you take your Meds.
Oh, and try to get some sleep, because you have been up since 4AM.

Hugs

Ruth
 

Diane L. (110)
Monday January 21, 2013, 5:21 am
Good grief, Ruth, give it a rest. Not only do you not have a clue about many oather things, but now you can't even tell time. Yes, I posted at 4:07 A.M. and guess what, I worked graveyard for many years. I am a nite owl of long standing. Haven't been "up" for even 10 hours yet. You just said I have been up "since 4: AM., well it's now 5:21 A.M., on hour and 20 minutes later. Is that some personal problem for you?
 

Ruth R. (215)
Monday January 21, 2013, 6:20 pm
Signed.
 

Anna Undebeck (203)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 2:42 am
Noted and signed!
 

Pat A. (117)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 3:33 am
Signed - thanks Cher and Ruth.
 

John S. (297)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 5:03 am
Signed and noted.
 

Lydia S. (172)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 9:33 pm
Signed, Thanks
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (379)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 12:59 am
Noted and signed.
 

Faye Swan (23)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 12:39 am
Signed & noted - thank you!
 

Karin de Vos (0)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 10:58 am
Signed - TY.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 9:03 am
Done
 

Yvonne F. (163)
Sunday February 3, 2013, 6:45 am
So signed!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Cher
Poor horses!!!
 

Valerie Disle (66)
Saturday February 23, 2013, 5:12 pm
signed and noted
 
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