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A Group of Muslims Beat Up a Young Spaniard in a Park in Tarrasa for Walking His Dog

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As every morning, the 27 years old man was peacefully walking his dogs in Font Breda Square, in the San Lorenzo neighborhood. As on other occasions, he was being accompanied by his 50 year old mother. The night before, his cousin had been walking her pet

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Beth S (330)
Monday August 6, 2012, 8:35 pm
"Sunday, July the 29 – As every morning, the 27 years old man was peacefully walking his dogs in Font Breda Square, in the San Lorenzo neighborhood. As on other occasions, he was being accompanied by his 50 year old mother. The night before, his cousin had been walking her pet in the same square, when a group of Muslim women reproached her for walking near them with an “impure animal”. They began to quarrel and the Muslim women attacked her, after which she had to be treated in a hospital. After the incident, she filed a complaint against them.

It looks like following this incident some Muslims were waiting in ambush for the family. So last Sunday, when the young man and his mother appeared in the square, some 50 Muslims were already waiting for them. With no previous word, they beat him up and almost killed the dog.

Then the first police car with two officers appeared there, but due to the high number of Muslims, they had to call for reinforcement. 6 more police cars appeared. But far from being daunted, the Muslims challenged the police, and they even attacked them.

The outcome of this brawl resulted in two officers injured and four (Muslims) detained. The attacked family turned to Alerta Digital to express their fear of reprisals from the Muslims. Even during the brawl, the Muslims threatened them with cutting their necks, all this in the presence of the officers, who were just looking numbly.

People of the neighborhood have showed their outrage to these extremely serious happenings and their support for the family. That’s why they have called on all neighbors in Tarrasa owning dogs to join a demonstration in the park (where these incidents happened), together with their pets."

Beth S (330)
Monday August 6, 2012, 8:47 pm
Islam's -- specifically Muhammad's -- hatred of dogs is deeply rooted in the Hadiths, sayings about the life, words and acts of Muhammad.


Muhammad made strange and harsh statements about dogs and these edicts affect dogs in a tragic way. His teachings may have come from cultural bias, Pagan concepts, or his own imagination, but wherever they came from they led to the cruel treatment of dogs.

None of the statements regarding dogs are found in the Quran but they abound in the various collections of traditions (hadith). These traditions are a primary foundation of Islamic theology and are the basis of many Islamic laws. They render dogs as "impure" and worse. Per Muhammad’s orders most dogs were to be killed and all dogs of a specific color (black) had to be killed.


Below are a number of Hadith on various aspects involving dogs. All Hadith are from the Sahih collections of Bukhari[1] and Muslim[2], or the Sunan of Abu Dawud[3]. After the Quran, Bukhari's set of Hadith are regarded to be the second most important books in Islam, followed closely by the Hadith of Muslim. I quote from these sources to prove that these Hadith are not just a few isolated or unsupported cases. I have sorted Muhammad's statements concerning dogs into 5 categories. All of these illustrate different facets of his beliefs regarding dogs.


From Bukhari Vol. 4, #540

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle ordered that the dogs should be killed.

From Abu Dawud #2839

Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.

The Hadith's note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them.

From Muslim #3814

Ibn Mughaffal reported: Allah's messenger ordered the killing of dogs and then said, "what is the trouble with them (the people of Medina? How dogs are nuisances to them (the citizens of Medina)? He then permitted keeping of dogs for hunting and (the protection of) herds. ...[and for] for the protection of cultivated land.

From Muslim #Number 055

Ibn Mughaffal reported: The Messenger of Allah ordered killing of the dogs, and then said: What about them, i. e. about other dogs? and then granted concession (to keep) the dog for hunting and the dog for (the security) of the herd, and said: When the dog licks the utensil, wash it seven times, and rub it with earth the eighth time.

From Muslim #3813

Abu Zubair heard Jabir Abdullah saying: Allah's messenger ordered us to kill dogs and we carried out this order so much so that we also killed the dog roaming with a women from the desert. Then Allah's apostle forbade their killing. He said: "It is your duty to kill the jet-black (dog) having two spots (on the eyes) for it is a devil.

The note for #3814 says,

"The Hadith gives us an idea why the prophet commanded to kill dogs. There must have been an excess of stray dogs and thus the danger of rabies in the city of Medina and its suburbs. The prophet therefore ordered to kill them. Later on when it was found that his Companions were killing them indiscriminately, he forbade them to do so and told them that only the ferocious beasts which were a source of danger to life should be killed. The word "Devil" in the Hadith clarifies this point. Here devil stands for ferocious."

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pam w (139)
Monday August 6, 2012, 9:12 pm
Last time I was in Kenya, I did myself a big favor and stayed for a couple of days in the Peponi Hotel on Lamu Island. It's almost paradise....ancient buildings, balmy breezes, etc.

The manager there has a beautiful Rhodesian Ridgeback named Ella....sweet, playful, friendly dog.

But, because the island is essentially Muslim, he's not ALLOWED to let Ella run on the beach, even though the hotel is located there! He told us he fears for her safety.

Lots of logic there....right?


. (7)
Monday August 6, 2012, 9:45 pm
Thanks, Pam. I'm really afraid for these wonderful animals (and their owners) as Islamic populations crest in the West.

. (7)
Monday August 6, 2012, 9:47 pm
Thanks for posting, Beth. I wonder how many people in Europe are aware of this phenomenon.

Stan B (123)
Monday August 6, 2012, 10:09 pm
These creeps are becoming increasingly brazen because the powers that be let them get away with murder.
I'd stick them on a plane and send them back to where they came from.

Tommy S (11)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 1:17 am
The products of mo-ronology
It is time that they be all repatriated to the islamic hellholes from whence they originated
These cultural enhancers are the scum of the earth.

Tuesday August 7, 2012, 1:40 am
I sold a property near the coast in Africa in a suburb recently invaded by our bearded over-dressed compatriots. They insisted in the name of allah, upon imposing their will upon the beachfront. They allowed only men dressed in night dresses to swim in the tidal pool and drove dogs and their owners from the beach along with women dressed in bathing costumes. Empowered; these people WILL take over your neighborhood whether or not you are a raving lefty loony!

Gillian M (218)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 4:16 am
My son, Steven, was unwell and a doctor from the out of hours service visited him. I believe him to be a Muslim even though he was being driven by a white female driver. He didn't go anywhere near Steven (who visited the GP the next day and was found to have really bad tonsilitis) and when our little rescue came out to see what was happening, tail wagging, I jokingly said, "Be careful she's a really vicious guard dog." Then the doctor became really nervous, shrunk towards me and asked if I could remove her. I laughed and said, "No, she's really friendly," but he refused to accept it and our dog stopped wagging her tail and walked off. Mishka always walks up to people but on this occasion she didn't. I could have sworn I saw a look of contempt in her face.

In the areas in the UK where the Muslims are trying to force Sharia Law, people with dogs have to be careful. It is interesting that this is not being trumpeted in the media.

Vlasta M (7)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 4:43 am
Mohamed had a pathological fear of dogs, perhaps because some black dog bit him. As usual for him, when he was fearful, he would urge his followers to murder the objects of his fear, dogs and Jews. He was responsible for a gruesome murder (by beheading) of 900 Jews from Medina, because those they would not accept this vile guy as THEIR prophet. Mohamed also suffered from an extreme form of galatophobia (and extreme fear of being laughed at), and therefore Islam is a very dour religion and the incidence of galatophobia is extremely high in Muslim countries.

As for this violent Muslims in Spain, they should go back to their dysfunctional countries which they left because their religion sponsored extreme corruption and destruction of free thought and free enterprise. Now they want to impose the same dastardly supremacist ideology of Islam, similar to Nazi supremacist ideology on Spaniards! Hopefully, Spain will nip it in the bud and send those guys packing home and children who behave violently as their religion teaches them into reform schools or back to the countries of their parents origin..

Jennifer Ward (40)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 5:41 am
Multi-culture= We have to accept their customs (many of which are completely alien and cruel) so they have to accept our love of dogs. It's only fair.

Fred H (31)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 9:53 am
Thanks for posting this. I just read the original news account. Horrific! There were about 50 of the Muslims, and they had assaulted the guy's mother the night before.

Jay S (116)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 11:44 am
We live in wonderful Spain and this is not the first time this has happened in areas where the Muslims congregate. Lee H, this is a problem all across the EU where the Muslims reach 3-5% of the population - then they start to make demands for everyone else to follow their primitive rules. Until then they are ever so nice.

A few months ago there was an article about Muslims, who are now around 40% of the population of one northern Spanish city, who demanded that dog walking be banned and dogs be made illegal, which is hard to not walk your dogs in Spanish cities where most people live in apartments or townhouses without yards. The Muslims then started poisoning dogs.

In the Netherlands a Muslim member of Parliament there has demanded a law to make dogs illegal in the country. These are just some of the many demands they make. In some cities women are attacked and raped for not wearing headscarves (even non-Muslims). The Muslim gangs call them 'uncovered meat'!

In once tolerant Amsterdam gangs of roving Muslims attack gay people and beat them, but at least they don't kill them as Mohammed commanded and some cities, like Malmo, Sweden and Oslo, Norway, have whole neighborhoods taken over by Muslims where the native people aren't welcome and even the police are afraid to enter.

Jews and gays are persecuted and any Muslims (there are thousands who have) who convert to Christianity risk violence and death and many must live in hiding! Mohammed commanded that anyone who leaves Islam be killed (along with those who question or criticize it).

Here in Europe some estimates of the burgeoning Muslim population say there are 54million Muslims compared to the paltry 2.4million in the the whole US. You people in the US have no idea what is coming your way but we understand it has already started in a few places with larger Muslim populations like Dearborn, Mich.

In France some Catholic processions that have been going on for centuries around their ancient churches are attacked and now need police protection to take place on festivals because the processions 'offend' the immigrant Muslims who have chosen to move here (multiple wives and uncounted children are much easier to keep here on taxpayer funded welfare and free health care - in fact in Denmark immigrant Muslims have nearly bankrupted their enlightened and generous welfare system so that the Social Minister spoke out and said they had to curb it, and now she and her family live with 24hr armed guards in secret locations because of the death threats against them.)

If this is a religion of peace and tolerance we'd like to know where that has ever been the case because the Muslim invaders here in Spain only gave peace and semi-tolerance when the non-Muslims submitted themselves to Muslim rule and law, forced circumsion, confiscation of all church property and destruction of all churches, except the ones used as mosques and the forbidding of building new ones. Tens of thousands were enslaved and there were several massacres of Jews. And this was called the 'Golden Age of Islam'! And this is what the PC Kool Aid drinking brigade call peaceful and tolerant!?

Yet to complain about or criticize this uncivilized, intolerant, hateful behavior gets you called and 'islamophobe' and 'hatemonger'! What other group could do these anti-social things and be defended for it?

Joe R (190)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 1:04 pm
Unbelievable! I hope the police and justice system react swiftly.

Gene Jacobson (290)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 1:28 pm
For those who doubt it, this is how they take over from within. Start small, propagate, become ever louder as your numbers grow, then begin with small acts of violence, demands for recognition of your religious "rights" and begin trampling the majority, until you are the majority. Then impose Sharia. Simple plan. And for all intents and purposes in many parts of the world, it seems to be working. Dogs are impure? Dogs are better people than most people, particularly the black one who adorns my page here and has my heart forevermore. He knew more about love in his person than all the muslim extremists in the entire world.

Hilary S (65)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 5:13 pm
just shows what happens when religion, ignorance & superstition all join forces: we see a return to the dark ages.

Ira Herson (13)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 6:24 pm
I am constantly surprised by the extreme level of violence directed against non-Muslims by whole Islamic communities. To have 50 people lay in wait for a dog walker and his elderly mother leads me to think that this level of organisation and dedication over a dog is not the prime reason.

This is not spontaneous but premeditated and is more frightening then a simple mob. The fact that this group would attack police is not simple assault but insurrection. The dog is only an excuse.

It is a planned act to subvert and dominate a neighborhood. If you were not a Muslim would you want to live there? Would you chose to move into that area? If you lived there would you move to a "Safer" place?

I do not know if the Muslims in the park were immigrants or not but it does not matter. What matters are that they are breaking the law.

There are many people that do not like dogs. either through fear or cultural back ground. However a dog is someone's property and so to injure or kill a dog is the same as theft.

I am sure that some person will defend all the Muslims and say "this is not Islam". It is a peaceful religion. But will they condemn the action.? Will they accept that their people do this? Or will they blame the victims or say it was Jews dressed up to look like Muslims so people will turn against them or it was a "false flag" by anti-Muslims.

It is time that moderate Muslims take responsibility for the actions of Muslims. they must loudly condemn these actions or by their silence condone the violence and intolerance in their name?

No it does not matter if Islam is the religion of peace. What matters is what people do. It does not matter what any bible says. What matters is the penal law code says. Civil law is the only law.

Shame on these people that would bully neighborhoods. Shame on people that would attack a man walking a dog and his elderly mother. Shame on people that would attack police. Shame on any Muslim that would silently condone this violence.

pam w (139)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 6:43 pm
I flagged the spam!

pam w (139)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 6:44 pm
Just curious...where are all the defenders of Islam? You know....the ones who call us "haters" and say we're "racists" because we comment on true events, many of them personally observed....where are they?

Nimue Michelle Pendragon Gaze (339)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 6:55 pm
Disgusting that this kind of thing goes on. Noted thanks.

Louise D (44)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 6:55 pm
This just doesn't look right, first of all I haven't seen the word Spaniard used for decades in English and is a bit archaic also . Also the blog is has some racist overtone and a little scratching and I find Fjordman is a Norwegian far-right Islamophobic blogger and Anders Behring Breivik quoted him extensively in his manifesto also the Spanish site cited made no mention of the incident.

Vicky P (476)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 7:32 pm
hm, ok and all the other races that beat up animals all across the world? Oh, Pam, intolerant as usual

pam w (139)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 7:42 pm MANY other religions encourage dog beating!

Don't they?

Stan B (123)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 8:17 pm
Louise D. What do you call an inhabitant of Spain? An Italian? Give me a break.
Vicky P. When it comes to animal cruelty and attacking in groups, Muslims have no equal. It's one of the few things they're good at.

Beth S (330)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 9:19 pm
I know Pam has a lot of experience and knowledge, so I take what she says about this issue seriously and respect her opinions. It is not that there aren't any other peoples or cultures in the world who ill-treat animals. There are. Chinese and Korean cultures come to mind at first thought

If this were about the Chinese or Korean animal abuse or about some white guy, an article like this probably be considered "intolerant".

The issue here is that not only does Islam HATE dogs, especially black ones, and Muhammad charged his followers to kill them all (and lizards), but also that Islam with its very un-Western, often diametrically-oppposed values is having an increasingly negative impact on the West.

We should be standing up for OUR rights, not throwing our values away in the name of Multi-Kulti.

AND people should KNOW what we're in for.


Leslene Dunn (84)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 11:43 pm
Noted - they do not like animals - I know because I work for Muslims. They should be strung up and the crap beaten out of them the rubbishes.

Marie W (67)
Tuesday August 7, 2012, 11:45 pm
In my experience Muslims want everything their way or the highway. They come to the West and continue oppressing women, honor killings, dog killing, no pigs, etc. etc. . They need to be contained in their own countries. Let the women out if they want freedom- keep the males well away.

Louise D (44)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 1:22 am
Stan B. - I merely mentioned that Spaniard is an archaic term also the way the English was written suggested the author was not a native English speaker, it takes one to know one. What concerns me is that the story originates from a Norwegian far-right Islamophobic blogger or did you not notice that part of my comment? When I tried to verify the story in the Spanish site quoted there was no mention the story. There is a whole slew of stories of Muslims attacking people all from far right sites yet there is no name of the victim which strikes me as strange there is a dangerous situation when people are incited by stories that can't be verified especially when the author has such a clear agenda.

Donna Hamilton (159)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 3:44 am
Just one vile example of the threat from within that western civilisation faces......and none of our spineless leaders will even speak out against it, far less actually do anything about it. Short of a pogrom - which will never happen - I don't see any way of stopping the Islamification of every western country. A chilling future for every woman and dog lover.....

Donna Hamilton (159)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 3:46 am
I should clarify my previous comment, by stating that I am not against all Muslims, just the extremists. I knew a (very westernised) Muslim guy who adored his little dog and spoilt her rotten.

Gillian M (218)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 6:21 am
Louise, perhaps you should tr a different search engine, I have found many sources on this story.

Sadly, this is the type of story that few mainline news media pick up as it is anti-Muslim. Even if this story is not true, what it is saying is. It is known that Muslims do not like dogs and have refused to take them in their taxis even if they are guide dogs. There was a furore when a blind disabled elderly person was not allowed on a bus because a Muslim woman kicked up a stink. Personally, I would have told her to shut up or get off. It is disabilism of the worst kind.

I suspect that the reason that Mo doesn't like dogs is because he had an incident where the dog knew what he was and either barked/growled/bit or a combination. I hope that the dog washed his mouth out afterwards!!

Vicky, as usual your ignorance and bias shrieks. Animal abuse is endemic and disgusting but people can be educated, hatred and deliberate destruction of a particular species where education is useless is another.

Mike H (252)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 9:20 am
If Christians did this it would be on the front page news

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 9:42 am
Spain came into the picture not by chance!

Muslim law dictates that lands once under Islamic rule must be returned to the Islamic rule. This is the same cause of a permanent war as the case of Israel and Austria.

If police shows political correctness and lets the mobsters remain free, that region will turn to Sharia in a short time. 50 attackers against one man proves that he was not standing against any noble people.


Vicky P (476)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 1:07 pm
pam, the religion itself doesn't, this is just a few people, there are more then a few cultures that aren't Muslim that abuse animals and I don't see anyone attacking them and calling them racist/prejudiced names.

Vicky P (476)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 1:09 pm
Gillian, tell me how am I ignorant? because I'm stating the truth, and you don't like Islam no matter what? Your hate blocks any real intelligence that you have.

Tom Y (33)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 2:52 pm
The Dutch blog that links from the story posted a couple of disturbing pictures: the first shows an earthen trench with inert dogs lying in it. The second shows two apparently dead dogs, one with a bloodied front leg. Presumably the adjacent text explains the photos; my command of Dutch being negligible, I was unable to extract its meaning. Were these animals the victims of a poisoning pogrom?

In my city the Muslim population is present, sometimes wearing traditional garb. But their numbers are scant and to now, they've conducted themselves peaceably. I expect the situation will change. We need strategies to turn the tables against anyone attempting to force Shari'a on the non-Muslim majority. (I've thought of using attack-pigs dyed with black shoe polish!) Something that'll use their own numbers & proximity against them in a pitched street-combat scenario: nail the vanguard, then force the rest of the bullies to trample each other in their pitched attempts to flee!...

We must be prepared; we've got to do something...

Marina O (10)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 3:11 pm
I lived among the muslims, I know what they are capable off and I have feared for my own life many times. I am now living elsewhere just because life there was unbearable! And now here in Europe, I see them taking over and being loud and walking in their religious garments and personally i feel assaulted! If they want to maintain a certain way of life, cover their women, chant their prayers in the public, etc, they should do it in their own countries. It is as disrespectable in my opinion to build mosques in a predominantely Christian or even an atheist country as it is if we would to come to their homecountries and ask them to uncover themselves, and I think some European countries are too tolerant untill one day it is too late!

monica r (41)
Wednesday August 8, 2012, 11:17 pm
Louise D,

Fjordman is a moderate democrat.

Breivik quoted Wikipedia EXTENSIVELY (and claims his education came from there), and you just quoted it word for word calling Fjordman "a Norwegian far-right Islamophobic blogger." You both quote Wikipedia. What is that supposed to mean? Exactly. It means nothing.

Breivik also quoted Thomas Jefferson, Gandhi, Winston Churchill, John Locke, writers for the Daily Mail, New York Times, and even a Canadian science student. Being quoted by him means nothing. In his trial he stated he wanted people like Fjordman to be undermined, and you are proof it worked.

Elaine Al Meqdad (283)
Thursday August 9, 2012, 1:35 pm
Noted! What a pathetic shame!

Ira Herson (13)
Thursday August 9, 2012, 10:29 pm
It has been noted in this link that other cultures and societies other than Islamic have been cruel to dogs.

Yes it is true. However I have never seen an article where the owner of a dog was attacked by a mob. I have never seen a situation where an elderly woman was attacked because she had a dog.

As much as there is some antipathy toward dogs in Asia where dogs are even served up with rice, do the owners live in fear.

Remember it is a case of a mob assaulting people that are walking a dog. The dog walkers are not protesting Islam they are not insulting the religion they are behaving in a legal and peaceful manner and they are being assaulted.

This assault can only be condemned. If the actions are done by a group then that group is illegal and should be condemned.

There is no moral/religious/legal justification for this thuggery.

Jay S (116)
Friday August 10, 2012, 7:57 am
Vicky P, you're always defending this cult of hate and death. Where are your sympathies for the many victims of it? Do you condone what it teaches? Like that those who criticize or question it must be killed, along with those who leave it and gay people? You are indeed the bigoted one.

We recall you defending the tyrannical Islamic Dictatorship of Iran before too. Don't you even care about how women are abused and brutalized there and that no Muslim occupied country has freedom of religion, speech, conscience or press?

Islam definitely teaches hatred of dogs if you knew anything about it and would read its ugly texts instead constantly making a
fool of yourself with your ignorant, uninformed comments in praise of this ideology of hate.

Read the second comment above with quotes from Islamic scripture about dogs. Are you going to call these quotes bigotry? From a hate site? Well, they are actually. They're from Islamic scripture which is brimming with hate.

Louise, you and Vicky need to examine what your true values are since you both seem to defend this ideology of hate and oppression. Read the qur'an and hadith. Even the Islamic historians clearly and unashamedly tell of Mohammed's evil, debauched, mass murdering,child molesting, bandit life. They call him the perfect man!

We live in Spain and wrote above about other cases of Muslims killing dogs and demanding that walking dogs in public be made illegal and owning dogs be made illegal. Read it. It isn't only Spain.

Why is it you people have to defend this creed of hate? No other religion teaches such hate. Buddha and Jesus are the exact opposite in teachings and life example to Mohammed and his ideology. How can you defend this except out of sheer ignorance, unless you, too, actually believe in Islam. Then admit it, but that still doesn't explain how any rational decent person could ever defend all the terrible things Orthodox Muslims do in following Mohammed's sick commands to the letter. What kind of person defends such things?

Read the Qur'an:

And hadith (the sayings of Mohammed which give some sense to the qur'an which has so much missing from it): (though some of this accepted translation has been removed because it is so ugly and inflammatory that Muslim scholars don't want you to read it, but we already have)

Once you have some idea of what you're talking about then come back and join the civilized world and begin speaking out for human/civil/animal rights instead of apologizing for bigotry and hate.

Here's a list of some of the cases of anti-dog bigotry:

patrica and edw jones (190)
Sunday August 12, 2012, 4:30 pm
We have known for some time of the intolerance by Muslims regarding dogs, in Spain. Our daughter and her family lived there until recently. Their dog was threatened and a neighbour's dog was taken - courtesy of the local Mussi Dog Lover's League.......they never got their dog back but they certainly know who committed the act since they were always complaining in a threatening manner about the animal. We know what Muslims are capable of regardless of which country they have spread their parasitic tentacles in.

Beth S (330)
Friday August 17, 2012, 11:01 am
Dear Tamara B.

I received the email you sent me about your opinions and anger with my posting the link for this article and my views and my request for you to note and comment.

Well I want to let you know that I am considering your views on this issue, but when I tried to respond to your very pointed questions, it appears that you don't want to hear the answers you've asked for, as it looks like you have blocked me, and with it the ability to have a dialogue between two adults that can perhaps lead us to some understanding. I am disappointed that you chose to attack and avoid, rather than to exchange POVs and keep an open mind.

So in the hopes that you revisit this page, I am going to copy the emails between us, and the -- I believe -- reasonable reply that you denied me from sending to you, as well as denied yourself the opportunity from which to learn and further express yourself.

Here goes:

Hi, Tamara,

Thanks for your email and feedback. I need to get going shortly to get to the store, but I will look forward with interest to reading the link you provided later, although I suspect I have an idea about its position.
Until then, perhaps you could elaborate on which views you believe I hold that are incredibly ignorant and why you believe this to be so.

While I haven't taken part in any of those cheesy, all-inclusive holidays, I have backpacked through a number of countries in Europe, spent some time in Israel, was engaged to a British Oxford student, and spent some time in England. I have also been closely studying Islam and its current trends over the past three years.

I took a comparative religion course in college as well as sociology and cultural anthropology. Additionally, I have read extensively about religions and cultures on my own, as well as experienced a fascinating three day immersion with a large group of people in Essen, Germany, who were followers of Guru Maharaji of the Divine Light Mission and stayed for a week in an Ashram in Lucerne. I have studied Theosophy with my Theosophist great aunt and uncle, and I have attended several cultural events outside of my own.

There's more, but that may start to give you a bit of a picture.

My family consists of many individuals who have many religions and/or none, including a niece who is a Muslima. I generally look at Muslims as individuals with the same scope of emotions, feelings, desires as most of humanity and deserving of respect and tolerance. However, I also recognize that **Islamists** are a special and highly dangerous breed, and because of their very strong and antithetical views and actions relative to my more humanistic views on tolerance and respect for others, they necessitate careful scrutiny, honest assessment, and in many cases cautious and defensive/preemptive, non-violent action.

Evil didn't die with Hitler and Nazism, and ignoring evil because its newest guise may not look like the fascist, totalitarian supremacism in brown shirts and swastikas, denial and willful ignoring of it are dangerous responses on many different levels. Evil, while in abundance in many cultures and country, is very much alive and more dangerous today in the form an aggressive, subversive and violent Islamist incarnation, and I can certainly provide a depressingly lengthy and comprehensive list of examples.

Once you believe we have covered enough territory to flesh-out your views and opinions, I will honor your request and take you off of my "friends" list, as insurance against sending you any other articles to note that you may find offensive.

Again, thanks for expressing your feelings, and I am interested in reading the link you provided and hearing further about your thoughts in this general area.

All the best,


Original Message: (from Tamara B.)

Check out this link. This is a VERY COMMON trend in America. If the perpetrator were Muslim, it would be called terrorism. That's called hypocrisy.

Your views are so incredibly ignorant. Don't send me anything else, please. Have you ever even left your own country to educate yourself? And I'm not talking about one of those cheesy all-inclusive holidays. I'm talking about actually immersing yourself in someone else's culture and religion to understand what they're about."

Original Message: (from me)
A Group of Muslims Beat Up a Young Spaniard in a Park in Tarrasa for Walking His Dog

Thanks so much. This is a growing trend in Europe.



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