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Yemeni Child Bride, 8, Dies of Internal Injuries on First Night of Forced Marriage to Groom 5X Her Age

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The girl, identified only as Rawan, died in the tribal area of Hardh in northwestern Yemen, which borders Saudi Arabia. Activists are now calling for the groom, who is believed to be around 40 years old, and her family to be arrested so they can face just

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Beth S (330)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 3:06 pm
An eight-year-old child bride has died in Yemen of internal bleeding sustained during her wedding night after being forced to marry a man five times her age, activists have claimed.

The girl, identified only as Rawan, died in the tribal area of Hardh in northwestern Yemen, which borders Saudi Arabia.

Activists are now calling for the groom, who is believed to be around 40 years old, and her family to be arrested so they can face justice in the courts.

They say arrests would help put a stop to the practice of marrying very young girls to older men in the impoverished region.

Angry Man, a blogger, posted that the man was ‘an animal who deserved to be punished severely for his crime’.

Child bride: The practice of marrying young girls is widespread in Yemen and has attracted the attention of international rights groups seeking to pressure the government to outlaw child marriages

‘All those who supported such a crime should also be punished,’ he added.

Another blogger, called Omar, wrote: ‘Rawan’s family members are not humans. They do not deserve to have children.’


Despite numerous campaigns from many of the world’s largest charities and NGOs, the issue of child brides remains a global concern.

There are currently some 57.5 million child brides across the world, 40 per cent of which married in India.

Forty-six per cent of women in India were married before the age of 18, according to the National Family Health Survey-3.

Meanwhile, in Africa, 42 per cent of girls were married before turning 18 compared to 29 per cent in Latin America and the Caribbean.

But the number of child brides is estimated to rise to 140 million by 2020 if current trends continue, 18.5 million of which will be under 15 years old, analysts warn.

Statistics show that girls living in poor households are almost twice as likely to marry before 18 than girls in higher income households.

And girls younger than 15 are also five times more likely to die in childbirth than women in their 20s.

But another blogger, called ‘Sad’, appeared more sympathetic to the custom. He wrote: ‘Her family and her groom could have waited for some time before having this marriage,’ Sad said.

‘It was not fair at all and the marriage should not have happened even if some tribes believe that it is a good custom.’

The practice of marrying young girls is widespread in Yemen and has attracted the attention of international rights groups seeking to pressure the government to outlaw child marriages.

Yemen’s gripping poverty plays a role in hindering efforts to stamp out the practice, as poor families find themselves unable to say no to ‘bride-prices’ that can be hundreds of dollars for their daughters.

More than a quarter of Yemen’s females marry before age 15, according to a report in 2010 by the Social Affairs Ministry.

Tribal custom also plays a role, including the belief that a young bride can be shaped into an obedient wife, bear more children and be kept away from temptation.

In September 2010, a 12-year-old Yemeni child-bride died after struggling for three days in labour to give birth, a local human rights organisation said.

Yemen once set 15 as the minimum age for marriage, but parliament annulled that law in the 1990s, saying parents should decide when a daughter marries.

Beth S (330)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 3:08 pm
Every month we seem to read about cases like this. I can only hope that these situations change so that little girls may have a safe childhood.

Gillian M (218)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 3:47 pm
Sadly this is very common, parents sell unwanted girls who have probably been sexually abused within the family.

My heart goes out to little girls like Rawan who must die in fear, terrible pain and suffering. Had she survived this assault, the chances are she would be permanently damaged internally or had a child herself at a very young age and probably died from that.

Barbara K (60)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 4:12 pm
How sad, this should not happen to little girls anywhere.

Naoko i (264)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 4:47 pm
Horrible !

pam w (139)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 7:28 pm
This MUST be a mistake! EVERYONE knows that Islam reveres and protects women and children!


It's a despicable part of a primitive culture. And, although I'm sure there are those lurking in the shadows who will leap out to call me Islamophobic.....we all know the truth.

Helen Porter (39)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 9:24 pm
The Three Faces of Eve, you've probably heard of this book was about one of the many children who are sexually abused even as young as 3 years old. This is a frequent cause of the "Multiple Personality" that many women deal with.

I worked in the field of Mental Health for many years. Multiple Personality is real. RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA!!!

Veronica C (22)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 9:34 pm
A very sick tradition. Those parents have to finally stop putting their daughters through this.

Giana P (398)
Tuesday September 10, 2013, 11:35 pm
This makes me sick. These are sick people with a sick culture, how can mothers just stand there and let their husbands do this to their own little daughters!

Stan B (123)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 1:48 am
Sadly females have no status in many of these primitive Muslim countries. The men that commit these awful atrocities against young children are the lowest form of human life.

Caroline S (78)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 2:52 am
This is a sick and depraved practice and makes me so angry. Poor little girls.

Jaime Alves (52)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 2:59 am
A Sick society, muslim's are a mad religion.

Hilary S (65)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 3:15 am
what can one say? horrendous stories like this are far too common in muslim societies these days, and i dare say not only today.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 3:17 am
Disgussting and humilliating! For Arabs, for Muslims, for all human kind!

Leslene Dunn (84)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 3:21 am
This poor child - I am beyond words - I seriously don't know what monsters God put on this earth and why He has not punished them yet, but I don't want to live amongst them any longer.

Athena F (131)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 4:06 am
This isn't JUST a part of "primitive culture". This is everywhere. Child sex trafficking, forced marriage, rape, it's all part of the same problem and it's all part of rape culture. Women are considered lesser beings, property, objects for sex. Rape culture is not getting better, it's getting worse. Children all over the world are in danger every day from adults who sexualize them. We must stop this mentality that women are objects for men to do with as they please and evolve beyond it. Stand up for the women/girls of the world. Educate people about these problems. ACT. Thank you for posting this. As horrific as it is, people need to know in order to help stop it.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 4:19 am
Treasure every life since all are equally precious

Karen Martinez (17)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 4:34 am
What kind of SICK culture/religion condones adult men having sex with little girls? If not having sex with these girls, then wanting to marry them to train them to be good wives and mothers so they can have sex with them when they're 10? Their parents should do that. What kind of sick parents sell their daughters? These people are just too twisted!

Sandra Penna (135)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 4:42 am

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 5:09 am
Those uneducated, evil and selfish bastards of men should be tortured to death.
What I cannot understand at all is that parents give away their precious little daughters to those monsters.
In what kind of wicked world do we live in?

TERRY R (268)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 5:28 am

Lona G (80)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 5:53 am
I have to agree with A.F. This isn't limited to a particular culture, it is everywhere. New research showed that 10% of Asian men have been involved in rape. South-Africa has long been the country with the highest rape percentage. Poor families in Cambodia, Thailand and other countries in the area sell their little children (both boys and girls) for prostitution to the European and American paedophile tourists, Indian girls are sold by their parents into prostitution... this list of sexual abuse of women and children goes on and on. Please stand up for all of them.

. (0)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 7:24 am
Disgusting! Child marriage should be banned! There is no place for it in this century. Children should enjoy being children instead of being forced into marriage with a guy way older than she is.

Theodore Shayne (56)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 10:06 am
Pedophilia and infanticide run amok under the guise of religion and culture.

Carol J (9)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 10:07 am
Poor, poor little girl..

Judith Hand (55)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 10:26 am
Noted and tweeted. "Disgusting" doesn't half tell the story. You know, I used to be less anti-child marriage because I figured that (like President Obama spoke last night) the U.S. doesn't have the right or standing to police the world. Since getting more involved with care2, a bit dropped back of late due to a move over about 1200 miles, I've tried to give credence to peoples' rights the world over to have their different cultures, religions, etc. Back to this article. Nah, perhaps my step back was more people-pleasing than understanding. The horror that this girl DIED! because of her 'groom''s completing the marriage (?) is ....beyond words right now. The beginning paragraph about the man holding back out of a loving respect for his 6 year old bride sounded reasonable and thoughtful to my more liberal mindset. In actuality, a 6 year old girl having to even be introduced to a grown man's penis is simply a shame. I doubt that any woman or man's god had this in mind for a 6 year old girl or the man several times her age. And I've rarely known someone without a god to justify such a situation unless, as with even 'believers', they'd received harm themselves to draw such a conclusion.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 10:58 am
This story was disgusting and heartbreaking Muslims seem to be a lot of twisted perverted men

Lillian Martin (1)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 12:33 pm
There is definitely something horribly wrong with this culture. Instead of nurturing and cherishing their their little girls; they are being raped and with their families' consent. The entire country should be ashamed.

Marija M (29)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 12:42 pm
disgusting tradition, poor children

M B (62)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 12:45 pm
I agree with AF, this is happening all over the world, educate people. ACT !!

Bette-Ann Libin (11)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 12:48 pm
I too am outraged but am laughing at some inferences within the comments...For those living in the USA do you know what population of males within a country fuels the sex trafficking trade in other parts of the world, let's say Thailand for starters????? AMERICAN FATHERS of THREE (3) YEAR OLD GIRLS travel to another country and f*#k the s*%t out of an undercover investigation story by a well known journalist our American predication for screwing babies infuses the sex trafficking business with thousands upon thousands of USA DADDY'S...put that in your "they are Muslim monsters, etc.... hat and smoke it.

Tom C Sullivan (98)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 1:46 pm
She is safe now. Take the SOB's like this jerk out and shoot the jerks.

Janet G (0)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 1:53 pm
Disgusting, very evil men in this world!

Winnie A (179)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 2:12 pm
An evil practice which must end today. Disgusting and despicable people who allow this to happen.

Lee Hampton (15)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 2:36 pm
Bette-Ann Libin at 12:48 pm:

It's one thing to make such an accusation-allegation and another to back it up. I would be very interested to see documentation on this. Obviously even if one father did it, it's one father too much.

The problem of course is that in Islam, whatever was done by the founder ("prophet") of Islam is supposed to be emulated by Muslims, as they consider Mohammed "The Perfect Man". Of course Mohammed had 12 or 13 wives, but he allowed his followers a maximum of four.

But it doesn't end there. Since Muslims can have up to four wives and the birth ration of male to female is roughly 50:50, there are simply not enough females to go around! This type of horrendous disparity helps create the conditions for the need for child brides.

In the late "Dark Ages", Muslim launched thousands of raids on Europe's coastal regions to bring back European women to Islamic lands to sate the desire for multiple wives and sex slaves. Yes, Islam allows an unlimited number of sex slaves to Muslim men. Of course, the rich Muslims have harems, and the existence of harems is a modern one as well. (The Muslim raids also pirated European trade which in great part made this age "Dark" and like sex slaves, Muslim pirates are alive and well today).

Mohammed's favorite wife was a six-year old named Aisha. It is said that although he married her at the age of six, he:

"The prophet of Islam would take a bath with his six-year old wife, Baby Aisha, and thigh (Mufa'khathat) Aisha, taking his penis and rubbing it up and down her thighs. Being a man of mercy he did not penetrate Baby Aisha until she was nine."

The Hadiths say that she even had Mohammed's semen on her clothes when she was a little girl and was still playing with her doll.

To people who believe in children's rights, human rights and so on, it is to us in this day and age a horrible practice and deaths like this are not at all uncommon. Yet in the Islamic world, females are very undervalued, so it will take a lot of fearless activism to change it.

According to the 56-country member OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation), these rights are not recognized, because according to them, Islam is "Perfect". There can be no "correction" of Islam.

I would add, too, that the take of slaves - people forced to work against their will for no pay and are most often abused and frequently killed - is widespread in the Islamic world with populations of slaves taken from many poorer non-Muslim countries.

So, while abuse and child marriages may happen outside of the Islamic world, the vast majority of them take place in the Islamic world, and because Islam says this is okay, it will not be rooted out until humankind understands the many, many evils of Islam and says enough! But the Islamic world is fighting hard to make sure that the truth about it is not told, and the OIC is trying to make telling the FACTS about Islam a crime punishable by jail and fines. They have actually succeeded to a great extent, even in Europe.

It's extremely frightening the more you know, and it should be EVERYONE'S duty to find out as much as you can and share the knowledge.

. (0)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 2:37 pm
May Rawan's spirit rest in the hope justice will be served.

Bette-Ann Libin (11)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 2:44 pm

I stopped watching TV 5 years ago, but will find the story and send you the link....

Lynne Buckley (0)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 3:31 pm
Appalling. It has to stop.

Vita P (40)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 3:32 pm
Yemen, and many other countries would be way ahead in development if their leaders would recognize women as an equal human being......allowing them to be educated and work in the society!
It is a HUGE world problem when so many extreme conservative (old!) men is sitting with a leading power they are afraid to loose...because then they KNOW their way of life= power will be gone for ever....and new progresses will grow in the light of women's successes!!.... THAT will be a hard fact to swallow!!!!......
But women's integration and rights WILL proceed even in very "closed" countries!!....though...until is outrageous that so many poor girls and young women must suffer and die because of imbecile stupidity and egocentric fundamentalism!!.....ALSO by the leaders!!...
They have all small girls blood on their hands....
Thank you for posting.

Bette-Ann Libin (11)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 3:41 pm

I posted you a reply under the article written two (2) days ago, please see my reply there, thanks a bunch!

Sheri Schongold (7)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 4:16 pm
This is beyond disgusting!!

marie C (163)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 4:42 pm
Bette Ann you have not read my comment I sent you on the previous article once again before you use other countries as comparison to Muslim countries
Check how many allow old men to marry baby girls Filthy pedophiles are treated as criminals in most of the world we are all very aware it goes on everywhere but not legally other than certain Islamic countries
Forget womens rights proceeding in certain countries they are run by depraved indoctrinated monsters nothing is changing for women

Barbara V (51)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 4:51 pm
I commented on this once. This time I'll just say that it's amazing the number of monsters dressed up in human skin. SOB pig. He'l get his.

Lee Hampton (15)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 6:25 pm

Hi Bette Ann

If you could post that link for me so I can be sure about which article you mean, that would be helpful.

Just to emphasize again, there are approximately 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and marrying young girls is, in most Islamic countries, an acceptable and even laudable thing to do. In other words, as opposed to something like some American fathers who may have raped their children, which would be treated with disgust and as a criminal aberration in the Western mind and system of values, the sexualizing of even babies in Islam is not considered a criminal aberration.

In fact, someone posted an article a few months ago that in Saudi Arabia, infant rape and use for thighing (putting an adult penis in between the baby's thigh until ejaculation) had become such a pandemic that religious leaders in that country were urging parents to dress their INFANT GIRLS in full length Islamic clothes - the abaya, hijab and niqab - covered from head to toe, so that they would be less appealing to Saudi men.

I think we are speaking qualitatively and quantitatively of two very different phenomenon, in spite of the surface similarity.



bob m (32)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 6:29 pm

Nice try Bette.. camarade... Are you a feminazi?... a real one ?.. usually the fems hide in the bushes but the smoke seems to be fitting for your tastes..lash out ...go ahead.. but WE call guys like that criminals, sick and scumbags.. in the diaporah of islam this is good sport.. a totally different fruit... a fruit right out a hellacious cult.

Joan H (20)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 6:43 pm
This is the second little girl that I've read died while the "husband" was trying to consumate his marriage. I know this happens a lot and I still can't believe that parents pick one of their little girls to be sacrificied for some bastard. It breaks my heart to think what they have to go through. Nothing but a legal pedophile.

Sheila D (194)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 7:55 pm
Said it before - Pedophilia is alive and well in Yemen. Sickening.

elderberry C (47)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 8:45 pm
OMG the stench of the lynch mob on here.....Read this from WHO and educate yourselves....
The 10 countries with the highest rates of child marriage are: Niger, 75%; Chad and Central African Republic, 68%; Bangladesh, 66%; Guinea, 63%; Mozambique, 56%; Mali, 55%; Burkina Faso and South Sudan, 52%; and Malawi, 50%.
In terms of absolute numbers, because of the size of its population, India has the most child marriages and a in 47% of all marriages the bride is a child.

elderberry C (47)
Wednesday September 11, 2013, 8:53 pm
It should be banned globally.

Inge B (202)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 1:39 am
Where is God to prevent such atrocities?

Love and Understanding

Teresa W (782)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 2:10 am
Absolutely horrible!

Lynne Willey (2)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 4:02 am
there are people here bashing the Muslims and calling out their culture. There is no question tht the practice of having sex with young children is outrageous. But I feel it is a mistake to blame the entire culture in an area where the United States can't stand perpendicular.

Our culture has its own problems in this area. We may not marry off a 5 yr old, but recently we had a judge who let a rapist off with a 30 day sentence because the girl in question looked older. This even though the man was a teacher and knew her age.

We have little girls tarted up in beauty pageants. Then paraded all over the stage showing seductive poses and acting far older than they are. And to add to the horror, there apparently are TV reality shows which carry the image to any child molester out there. All for profits and 15 minutes of fame.

And when I was in counseling for having been molested in this nation, I was told that if you stand on your front porch, look left and right, you will see the home of at least one person who has molested a child. I was in a program that included molesters and victims. There were educated men who were lawyers, a judge, some priests, and a minster as well as several others. Having sex with children is all over the globe.

And don't forget that we have children who are sold as prostitutes all of the time here. And men who go on vacation in foreign nations to have sex with children. Somebody is having sex with those kids, and it isn't Muslims.

I think we should put pressure on nations that won't try to change this barbaric custom but we should also have to clean up our own problems and stop sexualizing our children here.


Gene J (290)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 4:45 am
Inge? God gave us free will and expects us to use it. How we express that free will defines what kind of people we are. She did not give us free will with the "rules" men have made up in their various religious books and commandments. Free will with restrictions is not free will. So, there will be no divine intervention here. It is up to us to identify evil and name it, by such action do we define who WE are.

We have the right to band together and create rules that we might live together peacefully and safely. All of us. In my perfect world those rules are as simple as possible. We have only ever needed one in all truth and it is present in every faith tradition in one form or another, the Golden Rule, yet there is another version I prefer called the Platinum Rule which is much like the Golden - Do unto others as they would have you do unto them. This concept describes a "reciprocal", or "two-way", relationship between one's self and others that involves both sides equally, and in a mutual fashion. In order to know how another wishes to be treated, one must ASK them, if they are not able because of age or other reason of answering the question, then empathy rules and one treats them as one would wish to be treated.

So, with no rules, anarchy results and the strong dominate the weak, societal rules that level the playing field and protect the weak are necessary for humans to live in groups. Any civilized construct of social constraints certainly includes prohibitions against many things among them interpersonal violence, taking that which is not yours, and an absolute ban on pedophilia. It is up to US to create these rules and enforce them. We may establish penalties for breaking them, as we do, sometimes those penalties are for offenses so egregious that the perpetrator forfeits forever their right to walk freely as none are safe while they do. I included child sex offenders in that group. I don't believe they can be cured, I believe there is something inherently malformed in their character, their brain and I don't choose to grant any religion the power to determine for me what I call evil. It is in making those decisions that I exercise my own free will and define myself as who I wish to be. In this instance, a murder was committed in my opinion and all those who approved of the marriage are complicit, accessories after the fact in western law. Yemen yearns to be seen as a modern place, witness its spending on architecture and its vague attempts to join the world publicly, yet it practices outside the pretty cities, and I'm sure within them as well, such horrors as this. It is not a civilized country nor should it be accepted into the world community as such until it follows the rules of advanced nations and outlaws practices like this that harm another, pedophilia is always wrong in my judgment and these people should be rounded up and punished. Whether that will happen is open to question and we may never know. But we certainly have the right to protect children from predators, even when those predators are their biological family and we DO in most countries. Those that do not should be pariahs to the rest of the world until they give up their wicked ways and accept the rules of modern society. I would not trade with them, partner with them, accept their money or oil, personally, and I think civilized nations should do the same. But nations, many, seem to have no moral compass and accept excuses, promises to change and empty words in exchange for looking the other way in matters they consider internal to those outlaw nations. I think that makes those countries, our own among them, complicit in this little girl's death. And, I think we ought demand better of our leaders. Demand they have the moral courage to say this MUST stop or we will do no business of any kind with you. Perhaps moral fortitude shown by advanced nations might produce change that will not happen internally as long as good people stand by and do nothing.

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 5:15 am
Very sad, that such young children are forced into this.

Beth S (330)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 8:14 am

Your statistics would sound as though Indian Hindus have the largest incidence of child marriages, surpassing Muslims, but this highly misleading for the following reasons:

There are 177,286,000 (>177 Million) Muslims in India.

India has the 2nd highest number of Muslims in the world, comprising 10.9% of the world Muslim population.

So it is highly likely that this number of child marriages in India is a product of the very large Muslim population in that country.

This is not to say that there aren't Hindu or other religions child marriages, but with such a huge Muslim population, there can be no question that this feeds into the overall equation.

The problem is further exacerbated by the high number of abortions of female births both in Islamic countries as well as in the Muslim and Hindu populations of India. Modern technology in the form of portable ultrasound equipment has brought the ability to know the sex of the fetus, and because females are considered far less desirable for a host of reasons, they end up being killed in utero, thereby making eligible marriage partners for men even less scarce.

Additionally there is the problem of female infanticide further exacerbating the dearth of females, although by no means unique to Islam.

Muslims in countries where there is a minority Christian population like in Egypt and in Pakistan have a horrendous record of abducting Christian girls, raping them, forcing them to marry convert to Islam and never letting these poor women see their families again.

Beth S (330)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 8:16 am

(that was supposed to be "... eligible marriage partners for men even MORE scarce."

Beth S (330)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 8:29 am

There is yet another very disturbing way of increasing Muslim birth rate -- the use of mentally retarded Muslimas to act as breeders for Muslim babies.

"Dr. Qanta Ahmed on the Situation of Women in Saudi Arabia: Study Found Mentally Retarded Women Used as Baby FactorIes

The human slave, who cannot drive, who cannot travel without male permission, who cannot even shop for groceries without a male guardian. Women who have no male relative have extremely difficult circumstances. Any male, even a small 4 year old, has greater authority over an adult female than any female has. Even custody of children automatically go to the father or the father’s family. The women are basically like a shadow in the house.

British origin Dr. Qanta Ahmed is speaking at the event, “Profiles in Courage: Human Rights Defenders in the Struggle to End Violence Against Women,” parallel event in connection with the 2013 annual session of the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women, March 4, 2013.

Dr. Qanta Ahmed in a human rights activist, associate professor of Medicine at the State University of New York (Stony Brook), author of In the Land of Invisible Women: A Female Doctor’s Journey in the Saudi Kingdom.

Dr. Ahmed talks about a case of a woman in Saudi Arabia who had been found to be mentally retarded, a case she was asked not to publish. This woman was kept as a ‘breeding machine’ – basically a human slave. The husband kept a second wife while she had been kept at her parents house and only used for impregnation. After being impregnated she was then relocated to her parents home to give birth to the children. The children were then taken from the mother, and had no idea who their own mother was. When this case was being investigated the woman had already given birth to 6 children. She had no permission to connect or meet with her own children.

Welcome to Wahhabism and the right’s of women living under Islam.


Debra Tate (17)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 9:09 am
Noted. UNACCEPTABLE! SICK PEOPLE! They should have the same done to them and leave them there to die a slow painful death!

Beth S (330)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 9:34 am
Lynn Willey,

No question that the things you have cited are really a problem in many ways. You are right, with some of the things that are done in this country, we have our own house-cleaning to do, and you are right to bring these things up.

With that said, there are some important distinctions to be made.

There is a pandemic in child marriages in Islam that often prove fatal to huge numbers of girls, who most often have no one to turn to for help to save them physically. Even the girls who survive this physical and emotional onslaught do not have therapists to go to or support of any kind.

Child molestation in this country is a crime and often a psychological sickness, and their are consequences for the practitioners regardless. The people who commit it, once known, are considered social deviants, because this practice is generally understood to be morally repugnant, and they become social outcasts, pariahs.

In contrast, in the Islamic world, it is not a crime. As Lee pointed out, it is laudable and acceptable. There is no shame, guilt, or legal sanction attached. Females are not valued with the exception of being house keepers and baby factories. The Qur'an even says that women should not know much, should not socialize, should stay in the home. (The male Muslim ego is a very fragile thing that needs these laws to keep women in their place and the males feel superior.)

Additionally, there is still a need and a moral imperative to bring attention to injustice, regardless of where it is. To imply that we should turn a blind eye to what goes on in the Islamic world because we have our own issues -- although far less systemically -- is a dangerous, and I would add, immoral, thing to do. ALL of the issues deserve a fair hearing.

There are many people on Care2 who do bring what happens in our own backyard to the attention of the readers. However, I and others noticed that Islam/Muslims often got a totally free pass. Because there are so many issues with this ideology, even we here are endangered by many of them. We need to learn and speak out.

In this country, with an ever increasing Muslim immigration population, many of the voluminous ills of the Islamic world are now here and they will only increase and affect us all, even if child marriage presently not one of them.

. (0)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 9:56 am
Words fail me, everything I would have said has been said by others. Forced marriage is illegal and activists around the world are taking a stand to end the practice forever. Join me in taking action to help end this appalling crime, and sign the international pledge to commit to making the eradication of forced marriage a global priority.

A petition to sign --

Beth S (330)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 11:09 am
Thanks, Sue! Will sign.

bob m (32)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 2:28 pm

Of course Lynne .. you rail against history ...written word (quran)... .. maybe then as mo was the perfect man (spew).. a law would solve all this uncomfortable misunderstanding ; which says .. no big ole papa bear man child with greater than a 3 inch erection ...narrow gauge should be acceptable..y'see? problem solved ..."oh cousin?"

Roger G (154)
Thursday September 12, 2013, 5:53 pm
noted, thanks

Bob P (394)
Friday September 13, 2013, 9:01 pm

Linda P (0)
Saturday September 14, 2013, 12:12 am
This is absolutely sickening. How horrible for that precious child. All of the ones involved with this need to be punished for the murder of this child, that includes the parents and POS groom.

Christine Boddington (0)
Sunday September 15, 2013, 12:22 am
To me this is borderline paedophilia. a 40 something year old man wanting to have sexual relations with a prepubescent 8 yo child. This is a "Criminal Offence" to sexually and mentally abuse children !!! What sickens me most is to think that if she had survived and conceived children with him, is that he would be happy to marry off his daughter at a similar age and perpetuate this crime.....obviously there are some neurological abnormalities in these communities where they fail to understand moral right from wrong. Just because it is a part of the culture ....there is no excuse. Have they no mercy or love in their souls?

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Sunday September 15, 2013, 5:13 am
Walk Free, the movement & site against modern-day slavery, has created a petition because of poor, little Rawan's horrific death: CALL ON THE GOVERNMENT OF YEMEN TO BAN FORCED CHILD MARRIAGE

While it is important to respect other cultures, certain practices just have to be abolished - globally. Such as female genital mutilation & child marriage. Universal human rights for women & children are just that: UNIVERSAL. Cultural relativism is NOT the way to go when it interferes with observing fundamental human rights & protecting human beings, but insults aren't either.

These archaic customs will come to an end, but it is not by insulting the practitioners that progress will be made: international activism and education are the keys.

Don't forget that horrors take place in Western societies, too. Just the other day I read about a Christian fundamentalist 'mother' in Washington state found guilty, along with her husband, of murdering their beautiful adopted Ethiopian daughter of 13 (see her picture & cry for this lovely child), who died of starvation & froze to death, deprived of food and shelter as punishment! "The starving girl died naked in the cold and rain in the family’s backyard in 2011. She was discovered lying face down in the mud." "During the trial, witnesses testified the Larry and Carri Williams tortured, beat and starved Hana as well as (her) younger brother, Immanuel," who also was adopted from Ethiopia. "Her new parents saw her as “rebellious” and forced her to sleep in a locked closet, wash outside with a hose and use an outhouse as her bathroom."

The Seattle Times reported: "An autopsy showed she died of hypothermia, with malnutrition and a stomach condition as contributing factors. Her emaciated body was covered in scratches and bruises." The 'mother' "testified ... that she was unaware of the extent of her weight loss --30 pounds in the year before she died." "Hana spent her final months sleeping in a locked closet, showering outside with a hose, being forced to use a portable toilet behind a barn, being hit as many as 40 times a day and at times being barred from speaking to anyone.

The adopted boy, who is deaf, testified by sign language that he was sometimes hit on the top of his head or the bottom of his feet and that both he and Hana were served cold and frozen food."

The mother "home-schooled their seven biological and two adopted children" & we all know what that means: home-cooked religious-right indoctrination! While neither the Daily News nor the Seattle Times reported this important fact, the UK The Guardian did: the parents "followed a harsh child-rearing regimen described in the Christian parenting book 'To Train Up a Child', investigators said, while adding that religion had been deemed not relevant to the criminal case."
Is the US so contaminated by the religious-right that US media won't even point an incrimination finger at extremist Christian child-rearing methods that amount to torture????

I believe in the separation of church & state / religion & state EVERYWHERE, not just in Muslim countries!
Truly democratic societies are SECULAR societies, where the tyranny & dogma of religion are inflicted on no one by the law of the land or any other means, but observing religious precepts remains a private, personal choice!

We need to support a non-religion-based, SECULAR approach to law, practices & customs in our society, not one that allows legislation to be framed in Biblical or Evangelistic terms and to criminalize non-religious practices, such as the right of women to abortion.

Beth S (330)
Sunday September 15, 2013, 8:54 pm
Horrible! That is so, so sad. What horrible people. I hope they go to jail for a long, long time.

I agree a lot of these laws need to be abolished. In the U.S., this sort of thing is definitely illegal, as it should be. I've read of non-religious people that do these things to their children. You can find stories like this in the Washington Post of things just like this and worse that go on in non-religious families. This sounds like a function of mental illness rather than anything Christianity preaches.

On the other hand, what happened to this little Arab girl happens to Muslims girls all over the world. Muslim men aren't punished, because according to Islam, they didn't do anything wrong.

Abuse of children, animals, elderly, non-Muslims or whatever needs to stop. We are swimming in a cesspool of evil.

I just noticed that some of the text in your post is in blue. How did you do that?

De D (96)
Sunday September 15, 2013, 10:14 pm
This is outrageous.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Monday September 16, 2013, 5:23 am
The parts of the text in blue are links to the sources I am citing, so that people can click onto the source & see what was said in the article! It's a way of proving the authenticity of what I am writing.

Don't you know how to insert a link into text? It's very useful. The formula to use to insert active links is on the w3schools site & is called "HTML Link Syntax". I've been using it for years! You copy the formula (they call it the code) into your text & then you paste in the required info in the indicated places: where it says url, you replace their letters 'url' by selecting them with your cursor & pasting in the URL of the page you want to link to; and where it says link text, you select the words 'link text' & put in the words you want : they come out blue so that readers will know that it is a link to click.

I would add that the atrocity of child marriages is not part & parcel of Islam & there are many Muslims throughout the world who are as sickened & outraged by this practice as you or me. This is particular to rural places where the people have not benefited from much education. The same thing is true of female genital mutilation: an archaic practice that is on the way out as more women become educated & refuse to have their daughters subjected to it.

Beth S (330)
Monday September 16, 2013, 9:29 am
Thanks for the information.

Here are a couple of articles about FGM in the past couple of days.

As the population of immigrants to the United States increases from countries where Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) is practiced, so does the practice of cutting. This is the finding of a new study published by the New York-based non-profit organization, Sanctuary for Families, which specializes in gender-based violence.

The study, “Female Genital Mutilation in the United States: Protecting Girls and Women in the U.S. From FGM and Vacation Cutting,” relied on statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and data from the 2000 U.S. census.

Both CDC and the census appear to have arrived at their conclusions by extrapolating from the numbers of immigrants who come from countries documented by the World Health Organization as places where FGM is common, in order to arrive at a number of women and girls in the U.S. deemed “at risk” for FGM, either in the U.S. itself or while on “vacations” to home countries of origin.

Available statistics on the global prevalence of FGM come mostly from African countries, especially Muslim-majority ones, and have been gathered primarily by the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF).

There seems to be a deliberate dearth of FGM statistics from Middle Eastern countries, where the influence of Islamic law (sharia), mosque imams and local traditions that pre-date Islam may all contribute to what is likely a vastly underreported practice. Indeed, as noted by Thomas von der Osten-Sacken and Thomas Uwer in a Winter 2007 Middle East Quarterly essay, “[m]any Muslims and academics in the West take pains to insist that the practice is not rooted in religion but rather in culture.”

This is exactly what the Sanctuary for Families study does, asserting, “A common misperception about female genital mutilation is that the practice is required by religion, particularly Islam…FGM is not particular to any religious group, and is not prescribed by any faith.”

Except that it is:

e4.3 Circumcision is obligatory (O: for both men and women). For men it consists of removing the prepuce from the penis, and for women, removing the prepuce.(Ar. Bazr) of the clitoris (n: not the clitoris itself, as some mistakenly assert). (A: Hanbalis hold that circumcision of women is not obligatory but sunna, while Hanafis consider it a mere courtesy to the husband.) – Reliance of the Traveller: A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law

The Shafi’i shool of Islamic jurisprudence explicitly states that “circumcision is obligatory” for both men and women. Other schools of Islamic jurisprudence, such as the Maliki school, call FGM “praiseworthy (makruma).”

The Maliki school is most prevalent among the 35% or so of the world’s Muslims who live in North and West Africa (in addition to Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates). The Shafi’i school is dominant among Muslims in the African countries of Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Somalia and parts of lower Egypt.

Although statistics generally (and perhaps deliberately) are lacking for Muslim populations elsewhere in the Middle East, an important June 2010 Human Rights Watch (HRW) study documented the startling prevalence of FGM in Iraqi Kurdistan.

Entitled “They Took Me and Told Me Nothing,” the report described the traumatic experiences of girls and women and the terrible toll that the mutilation takes on their mental and physical health.

The HRW study is credited with prodding the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) to pass the Family Violence Law, which banned FGM and went into effect on August 11, 2011. To its credit, the KRG since then has implemented measures designed to raise awareness of the negative effects of FGM, train judges and issue instructions to the police who are charged with dealing with domestic violence incidents. Nevertheless, progress in stamping out the practice is slow, attesting to the ingrained influence of Islam and cultural practice.

Nor should any of this information be especially surprising, given that all Muslim countries belong to the 57-member-strong Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), which in 1990 explicitly rejected the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights with the Cairo Declaration. According to Articles 24 and 25 of the Cairo Declaration, the only human rights that Muslim-majority OIC members recognize are those granted by sharia.

As if right on cue at the UN Commission on the Status of Women (taking place at UN Headquarters in New York City from March 4-15), the Muslim Brotherhood issued an official statement denouncing a proposed UN declaration entitled “End Violence Against Women.”

See’s related article Muslim Brotherhood: UN Document on Violence Against Women 'Un-Islamic'

Their objection? That granting women equal rights with men in such areas as marriage, divorce, child custody and sexuality “would lead to complete disintegration of society.” “Granting wives full rights to file legal complaints against husbands accusing them of rape or sexual harassment” seems to have struck an especially sensitive nerve with the Brotherhood—as well it might, given that the Qur’an explicitly grants husbands the right to marital rape:

Your wives are as a tilth unto you: so approach your tilth when or how ye will

(Q 2:223)

Yes, the Ikhwan do have a point: Granting women full equality with men would very likely would spell the end of Islamic society. Allowing women to choose their sexual partners (just as men do), to marry and have children with whom they will (just as men do) would surely end Islam as it’s been known and practiced for nearly 1400 years.

Significantly, the Brotherhood’s condemnatory declaration concluded with a call to Al-Azhar University “to take the lead, condemn this declaration, and state clearly the Islamic viewpoint with regard to all details of this document.” This, of course, is in perfect alignment with the new 2012 Egyptian Constitution which states that “The Council of Al-Azhar’s Senior Scholars shall be consulted on issued related to Islamic Sharia.”

While many Muslim immigrants to the U.S. come for the chance to escape just such abuse and violence as the FGM practices of their homelands, others clearly are bringing the practice with them.

The Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA) provides guidance on Islamic jurisprudence to Muslims in the U.S. through an in-house group of sharia scholars. On the question of FGM, Dr. Hatem al-Haj offered a fatwa on the topic twice (once in 2006 and repeated again in 2010).

Citing the hadith and touting alleged “health benefits” of FGM as somehow analogous to male circumcision, Dr. al-Haj clearly links the practice to Islamic doctrine (however he seeks to minimize the actual cutting involved). Even though he ultimately advises Muslims in the West where FGM is illegal not to have the procedure done “as long as you are a resident/citizen of the West,” he leaves no doubt about where he really stands on the topic: “We should never doubt anything in our religion because of the bad publicity the media creates about it.” American Muslims who are sharia-compliant know what he means.

Incredible as it may seem that such a barbaric practice as FGM should exist in the U.S., Congress found it compelling enough in 1996 that it directed the Department of Health and Human Services to develop estimates of how many women and girls either have suffered FGM or were at risk for being subjected to it.

The initial report, based on 1990 data, found that some 168,000 women and girls in the U.S. fit that category. The new Sanctuary for Families study, based on 2000 census data and work by the African Women’s Health Center (AWHC) at Brigham and Women’s Hospital (BWH), found that the numbers of those at risk had risen to 228,000 (a 35% increase).

The Federal Criminal Code (18 U.S.C. § 116 : US Code - Section 116) makes FGM illegal in the U.S., although only some 20 states also criminalize it. As of 2012, however, there had been no prosecutions for FGM under federal law and only one case brought under a state statute.

To ensure that all communities living in the U.S., immigrant and native-born alike, understand and comply with the ban on FGM in this country, educational efforts aimed at the immigrants themselves, health care professionals and local law enforcement must be stepped up.

Equally, effective enforcement is needed to ensure that girls are not sent abroad, on “vacations,” to be cut.

FGM is an abusive and brutal practice that has no place in the U.S. or any other civilized society. (Clarion Project)

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New FGM Statistics Shock England

Doctors and campaigners said the findings were "horrifying" and called for a drive to bring perpetrators to justice.

More than 2,000 victims of female genital mutilation have sought treatment at London hospitals in the past three years.

The figures, revealed by the Evening Standard, are the most dramatic illustration so far of the impact of this illegal and horrific practice on girls and women in the UK.

The report also revealed that 298 operations were performed to try to held women recover from the procedure.

Hundreds of others have received treatment in an attempt to ease their pain. Cases include one girl with an "open wound" and at least 12 more involving children. The statistics have been received from Freedom of Information requests to seven London hospital trusts with specialist services for FGM victims. They represent the most comprehensive measure yet of the problem. A total of 2,115 FGM patients were seen between 2010 and summer this year.

Doctors and campaigners said the findings were "horrifying" and called for a renewed drive by police, prosecutors and others to bring perpetrators of these crimes to justice. But they warned that the reluctance of some women to seek treatment and flaws in hospital record-keeping, including the lack of a specific code to identify FGM cases, mean that the true number of victims was certain to be even higher.

Dr. Comfort Momoh, a specialist in treating FGM, and who runs the African Well Woman’s Clinic at St Thomas’ Hospital, said, "These statistics show a very significant number of women are being treated for FGM, but there are still lots out there who are not being identified because they don’t know where to go for help, aren’t being referred by GPs or are too scared to come forward."

"I’m really worried about girls in particular. Where are they going to seek help? The GPs who are their first point of call often don’t have the knowledge. We also need teachers and lecturers to do more to at least signpost girls towards help," he added.

Dr Momoh said new guidelines from the Department of Health and medical professional bodies were essential, so that information about victims and girls at risk could be passed to social services and other agencies without deterring women from reporting their plight.

She added, "FGM can cause lifelong pain and the psychological impact can be really severe, with women suffering flashbacks every time they have sexual relations. Much more must be done to prevent it."

Efua Dorkenoo, of the charity Equality Now, said, "These figures highlight the horrifying scale of this criminal practice and prove, once again, that too little is happening to stop women and girls from suffering. This is a growing problem, which requires investment in prevention. The government needs to implement a national action plan, which recognizes the need to treat survivors physically and emotionally, but which also focuses on preventing FGM from happening in the first place."

Among the victims who have spoken out in a bid to prevent more girls suffering is Londoner Nimko Ali, 29. She was taken to Somalia to be cut at the age of seven and now runs the Daughters of Eve charity, which helps victims and girls at risk of mutilation.

"For too long, it has been passed off as a 'cultural' ritual. But this act is not about celebration. FGM is gender-based violence, it's as simple as that," Ali said.

Estimates have suggested 20,000 girls are at risk of being mutilated in England and Wales.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday September 17, 2013, 4:51 am
"There is growing outrage in Yemen over child marriage," according to Avaaz, but "clever political maneuvering by a conservative minority" has so far prevented the Yemeni parliament from getting the minimum legal marriage age raised to 17.

At the moment, however, Yemen is drafting a new constitution that could include a ban. And they are doing it days before a major international donor conference.

This is the moment that can change everything for millions of little girls – Click the link to demand that donors use their influence to get Yemen to end child marriage. Once we reach 500,000, Avaaz will partner with champions in Yemen to deliver our message directly at the conference. Sign the Avaaz petition NOW! "Ban child marriage now", addressed to the "Friends of Yemen" donor group of countries:

"As global citizens concerned about the thousands of Yemeni girls who are forced into child marriage, abused and deprived of an education, we call on you to use your influence on the Yemeni government to set 18 as the minimum age for marriage. The recent death of an 8-year old girl from internal injuries suffered during her wedding night should be a wake-up call to act now to make sure no other girls suffer a similar fate. Yemen can act as a model for other countries and help end the scourge of child marriage everywhere."

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Saturday October 31, 2015, 4:20 am
Thanks for giving me the useful information. I think I need it. Thank you
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