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Berlin Bans Christmas


World  (tags: Berlin, Christmas Banned, Religion of the Perpetually Offended )

Beth
- 344 days ago - mmnews.de
In Berlin-Kreuzberg, Christmas is now forbidden - at least if it is to be committed in public places. Christmas may only take place at home, so that religious feelings of others are not affected.



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Catherine G. (13)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 12:07 am
How ridiculous. It is not as if Christmas involved animal sacrifice or anything objectionable. More and more talk about freedom of this and that seems to lead to less and less freedom
 

Beth S. (326)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 12:11 am
In Berlin-Kreuzberg, Christmas is now forbidden - at least if it is to be committed in public places. Christmas may only take place at home, so that religious feelings of others are not affected.

No April Fools: The district office of Friedrichshain-Kreuzberg abolish Christmas. The authorities do not allow Christmas celebrations more in public places or streets. A tree must be placed only in a central, previously assigned by the authorities place - reports the "Berliner Zeitung". The festival ban was adopted by Green, left, and pirates. SPD and CDU were supposedly against.

The competent Councillor Peter Becker (SPD) answered the protest against the public over the Christmas ban BZ said: "Why should religious festivals are celebrated in public?"

Background of the Christmas ban: In August Muslims wanted to celebrate the end of Ramadan on the streets of Berlin. It was feared because of noise complaints from residents. It made the district office "short work" and banned all the same religious festivals - including Christmas, from "reasons of equal treatment."

In addition, no so-called honor medals may be distributed to followers of religions. So who is of the Christian faith and has done an outstanding job in his district, is based in the future yet. The "medals ban" is of course also for all religions.

Despite Christmas ban other parties may still take place if they are not religious in nature. Thus, the "Beerfest" "Carnival of Cultures" and various fringe groups festivals are still permitted. According to an interview Becker gave to a local Berlin news outlet, “gay” and lesbian festivals will still be permitted to take place in Kreuzberg.
 

Beth S. (326)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 12:13 am
WND adds:

Members of the center-right Christian Democratic Union, who currently are the largest party in the national parliament, and Christian leaders in Berlin have decried these developments as a revival of atheistic practices that were mandated by the communist regime of East Germany, according to a report published in Der Tagesspiel.

“I feel there’s a tendency towards irreligion in the district,” the CDU parliamentary leader, Goetz Mueller, stated to the Berlin news source.

Peter Storck, a local Protestant church leader, was even more critical in his response to the developments in Kreuzberg, which he sees as outright discrimination against religious individuals.
“State neutrality towards religion and the church should not be misunderstood as ‘freedom from religion,’ this requirement is rather a policy of totalitarian states,” Storck declared.

Kreuzberg is an area renown both for its counter-cultural reputation and as a prime destination for Turkish immigrants. A third of its population is composed of immigrants and the most popular political party in the district is the far-left Green Party.
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 1:04 am


The lights of Christmas are extinguishing steadily throughout Europe in response to the far Left and Muslims taking over town councils and making it illegal.

Where will it stop?

 

Candy L. (478)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:23 am
Fairy Tales do come true, remember, In Santa Claus is coming to town, the Burger-mister outlawed Xmas
 

Syd H. (48)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:38 am

It's funny how if the Christians get remotely the same treatment they become part of the "religious community" but are usually the ones trying to ban anything a Muslim group would like to do such as a celebration of the end of Ramadan which I can tell you having been around for one in a Muslim country is delightful and not to be feared.

The reality is Christians want special rights not equal rights.


 

David C. (25)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 3:47 am
Oh, really?
I very much doubt it. But i, for one, would find it so much less depressing if i wouldn't have to walk past umpteen-thousands of murdered baby-trees every December ! Not to mention the orgy of consumerism which in recent years was not confined to December but started already immediately after the Holloween-busine$$


 

Natasha Salgado (522)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 9:11 am
This is stupid.
 

Patricia Martinez (14)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 9:40 am

"murdered baby-trees".

Well in these here parts, Christmas trees are grown on farms, mostly sold in the lots of volunteer rescue squads and fire departments to raise funds for the rescue workers. Then the rescue squads and fire departments take the money and buy Christmas gifts for underprivileged children. On X-mas eve, the volunteers take the trucks out to the poor communities, give the kids their first and probably only time they can enjoy the excitement of sitting in rescue trucks and then give them a present that they might not be able to receive from their parents.

After Christmas is over, the trees go a huge mulching center in the county and are mulched and sold to the community to encourage people to plant. This is a win-win situation all the way around.

I wonder if you, David eat murdered vegetables and fruits, or do you just eat garbage like your thought processes would suggest?
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:13 pm
This isn't the first city to take this 'PC' action. We can only fear where this will lead.
 

Carol D. (109)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:23 pm
All this political correctness is getting beyond a joke Most of these immigrants seem to forget that they come by invitation or visa in to these countries and when in Rome you should do as the Romans do
 

Stan B. (124)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:30 pm
Political correctness gone even madder. Well said Carol.
 

bob m. (32)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 4:49 pm


The light of Christ was encompassed in darkness at Calvary.. it shall never again be put out.... You cannot extinguish the Light of His Glory... The Son...The Lamb...The Alpha and Omega... The Hand of God reaching out till the Last comes unto HIM... Call upon His Name today.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 4:58 pm
This is outrageous. This is Germany, and all German people love to celebrate Christmas.
 

Lynda Mcmillan (0)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 8:31 pm
Is there a petition to sign so that Christmas can be celebrated in Germany?
 

Billie C. (2)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 8:47 pm
got to love how muslims can screw up things for all
 

Beth S. (326)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 8:58 pm
I've never started one, Lynda, but this would be a great one to start. If you can do it, please let me know. I would love to sign it.

This has gone on in cities in Denmark, Sweden and elsewhere. We keep on ceding more and more ground. We have to find the wherewithal to put our foot down and stop this.
 

Glenn Byrnes (192)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 9:04 pm
This is taking political correctness too far.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 9:07 pm
This is fuc*ing stupid and outrageous! It would be funny if it wasn't such a serious thing for those that want to celebrate Christmas, and to be proud of it.
 

Bill and Katie D. (81)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 10:36 pm

Very interesting article. Thank You Beth
 

Ganaisha Calvin (7)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 11:07 pm
thanks for sharing
 

Helga Ganguly (82)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 11:15 pm
Germans gave the world it's present form of Christmas celebration.It gave the tree and Nativity calendar and St Nicholas Day,which isn't celebrated in America.To shut down Christmas celebrations in Germany is akin to forbidding the celebration of Hannukha in the 1940's.The Jews were Germans.The Muslims are not. Let them go home and outlaw whatever they want at home.When in Rome-eat Bratwurst.
 

Helen Porter (40)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 11:50 pm
Don't they know?

Haven't they heard?

Christmas is a pagan holiday. The kiddies didn't want to miss the presents and the
goodies so the Christians yelled that holiday was theirs. Same thing with Easter.

I'll bet those folks kiddies will be yelling too.

If they're allowed to object.
 

Inge Bjorkman (142)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:12 am
Beth S.
This has gone on in cities in Denmark, Sweden and elsewhere. We keep on ceding more and more ground. We have to find the wherewithal to put our foot down and stop this.

In Sweden, it is not forbidden to celebrate Christmas in public, but some schools have wanted to impose a ban because of the different ethnic groups!!

Love
 

Emma S. (227)
Monday October 14, 2013, 1:56 am
I'm not convinced. There was an insistent story here in Britain that a council had 'banned Christmas' and replaced it with an all=purpose festivity called 'Winterval'. It was a folk myth, taken up by the more rabid tabloids.
 

John S. (304)
Monday October 14, 2013, 3:39 am
It's a sector of Berlin, the Kreuzberg, known for by a third of its population being Turkish descent. If it was really based on the fear of noise complaints, why did they allow gay and lesbian festivals to remain?
 

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Monday October 14, 2013, 4:04 am
noted
 

Inge Bjorkman (142)
Monday October 14, 2013, 5:34 am
For more information you can get on Google, and also read about Ted Pike.

Love
 

Anna Undebeck (205)
Monday October 14, 2013, 5:37 am
This is just sick!!! Makes me really angry when I think about it!
Thank you, Beth.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Monday October 14, 2013, 9:11 am
As of now, a hugh menorah in the town square will be allowed?
 

Lona Goudswaard (70)
Monday October 14, 2013, 9:12 am
I know this will fall well with a lot of people who commented here who wish it to be true, but this article is a simply a ruse, a negative adaptation of another untrue story propagated by some newspapers in Germany.
The original story stated that ALL religious festivities, so Christmas and Ramadan were banned, instigated by the Greens and the Pirate party. So not just Christmas and not by the Muslims.
But this news article was soon discredited by the Berlin city council. They have not banned any religious festivity in the past and will never do so in the future.
http://www.spitsnieuws.nl/archives/buitenland/2013/09/berlijn-viert-wel-kerstmis-en-ramadan for the Dutch link, but you can always translate, can't you if you are really interested in the facts behind it.
 

monka blank (74)
Monday October 14, 2013, 9:57 am
to me it doesn't matter; I don't celebrate x-mas anyway.
 

Marija Mohoric (50)
Monday October 14, 2013, 1:09 pm
thank you for the info
 

Irene S. (62)
Monday October 14, 2013, 2:03 pm
come on folks, calm down. I have to disagree Birgit W., not all german people love to celebrte christmas (I don´t). But to those who like it´s not forbidden at all. They just save a lot of electricity not illuminateing the city day and night with electric candles and playback white christmas and jingle bells all over.
 

Barbara D. (75)
Monday October 14, 2013, 5:14 pm
No, Christmas isn't banned ~ just keep it indoors and keep your shutters drawn. Geez, I'm Jewish and I LOVE the lights and carols and bells on the streets! What's to offend?
 

Peta Clarke (26)
Monday October 14, 2013, 5:20 pm
Christmas like Jesus is in the heart of the true believers and the light will never go out. Many have tried over the years dose not happen. The only ones really effected by this is big money making machines.
 

pam w. (191)
Monday October 14, 2013, 6:49 pm
This happens every year. Christians holler like the proverbial MASHED CATS because the rest of the world wants to avoid their SELL-ATHONS, public school nativity pageants, creches put up in public spaces, etc.

Here's the truth---as more cultures come together, imposing religious holidays on non-believers becomes increasingly obnoxious.

Syd H. is right...."The reality is Christians want special rights not equal rights."

NONE of you would be happy if Jews or Muslims imposed their holidays onto the rest of us---and yet, there's ALWAYS a thread here WHINING and BEMOANING the fact that stores use the term "Happy Holidays" rather than "Merry Christmas"...as if there is no other holiday or religious point of view.

Wait and see---this issue will come up again--I'll bet my life on it.

Even if this article WERE true...what's wrong with it? Why can't Christians celebrate in their homes, churches, parochial schools?

Why must the rest of the world be subjected to all those FA LA LA LA LA LAS?,
 

Frances Darcy (220)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 2:01 am
IS IT TRUE?
 

Lona Goudswaard (70)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 4:09 am
No, Frances, it isn't true.
 

Wonder Girl (0)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 5:33 am
This is not acceptable.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 12:51 pm
This is insane!! You can sure tell who is controlling the issue of Religion all over the world and it's not anyone sane! I agree with what you said Carol..the PC world has gone completely insane..it's all about power and has really nothing at all to do with PC..that's just a cover up! Those who don't like or want the meaning of Christmas shown to anyone are those who make derogatory comments about people having a problem with an ideology that is nothing but a disgusting hateful inhumane ideology. Like Christmas is going to zap them into infinity!? What are you all so afraid of if you do not believe in it and someone else does!? What are you so afraid of that you have to become SO insensitive in your comments!? I pity anyone who can not find joy, love and understanding out of the celebration of Christmas!! It shows their hatred in comments very clearly!
 

bob m. (32)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 3:11 pm


The veils of shame, unbelief, rebellion, lies, fear, bitterness, envy, darkness and death...cannot avail a thing gainst the LIGHT of Life in Christ....the Lamb.
 

Franck R. (52)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 2:57 am
Thanks for the info
 

Bob P. (427)
Thursday October 17, 2013, 7:28 am
thanks for sharing if Christmas offends you go back to your own country
 

. (0)
Thursday October 17, 2013, 2:00 pm
glad I will be dead before this spreads worldwide
In August Muslims wanted to celebrate the end of Ramadan on Berlin's streets. There were complaints from locals worried about the noise. The District Office made "short work" of these and immediately banned all religious celebrations - including Christmas, on the grounds of "equal treatment".
 
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