Friday August 21, 2009, 7:09 am
I saw this beautiful young lady on FOX this morning. Please take a minute to call Gov Crist and express your concerns.


Telephone:

Citizen Services Hotline: (850) 488-4441
Executive Office of the Governor Switchboard: (850) 488-7146
[Office hours are 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time]

Fax: (850) 487-0801


Thank You Linda

Friday August 21, 2009, 7:13 am
They are making a decision today. Please make a call to help this beautiful girl.

Friday August 21, 2009, 7:23 am
I heard about this.
Thank you so much for posting this.
It is one thing to try to tell your child what to believe.
It is a totally different thing when your parents have said they will kill you for your beliefs.

I will be calling today and will pass it on right now.
Thank you Nancy,
you are a saint for this.

Friday August 21, 2009, 7:27 am
If she is so afraid then she should not be forced to go home. She is pleading not to go home!!

Friday August 21, 2009, 8:13 am
There you are the unpleasent side of religion and it could well ahve been the other way around in some parts of the world! Clearly this young lady shoud be supported in her desires not placed in danger!

Friday August 21, 2009, 8:29 am
Precedent is set...

If her parents are devout muslims she will die

Friday August 21, 2009, 9:30 am
...faxing over a plea now...

Friday August 21, 2009, 9:34 am
Thanks Michael

Friday August 21, 2009, 9:41 am
Food For Thought:

She has a first amendment right to freedom of association and religion. Returning her to her parents is a pro forma statement that the first amendment is not valid for someone 17 years of age who is an Ohio resident. Problem is that the first amendment has been incorporated by SCOTUS meaning that it applies to states equally to the federal government. This is far more than just an emancipation issue. If the court rules that she must go back to her parents until she is 18, it is making a de facto ruling that constitutional protections do not apply to those younger than an arbitrarily established “majority age”. In legal terms it would say that a “status offense” (an infraction that is only an infraction because of the offenders status, usually related to age restrictions such as purchasing alcohol, child/teen curfews, etc.) statute trumps the constitution. This is extremely problematic as the constitution is the highest law of the land by its own terms. To allow a status offense to trump it would open the door to all sorts of government atrocities from violations of habeus corpus to denying the entire Bill of Rights protections to any citizen under any set age. There have historically been discussions to raise the legal absolute majority age from 21 to 23. Could congress raise that to 25 and deny nearly all rights to those under that age?

To see this simply as an issue of Christian v Muslim, child abuse, general religious matter, emancipation or other simplistic matter is to be short sighted on the actual matter at hand. Seeing this story on the news this morning and reading some articles about it now it seems that her supporters in their religious fever are ignoring the very large, scary forest for their favorite tree.

Friday August 21, 2009, 10:10 am
Thanks for posting this, Nancy. While I don't usually support interference with parental rights....this is the exception to that rule. My thoughts and prayers for this child. Making the phone calls and sending the info to everyone I know.

Friday August 21, 2009, 11:30 am
I find this case so outrageous. It's like the Dark Ages lives on in the Muslim religion with their "honor" killings that have nothing to do with honor, but control through the ultimate threat. This poor young woman may not be able to be helped by Florida if it is decided it has no jurisdiction, in which case she must be returned to Ohio to a family planning her murder. The school counselor has seen the bruises on her body from the beatings by her father and brother. Now her father is trying to come across as reasonable and professing love and concern for his daughter to get her back. They are originally from Sri Lanka, and if he returns with her for a visit and murders her, he will be celebrated as a Muslim "hero," and no punishment will take place.

If it were up to me, I would arrange for her to run away from foster care in Florida, hide her until she turns 18, at which time she would be considered an adult by Florida law and not be forced to return to Ohio. She should change her name and hope her family is never able to find her. Any lawyers out there? Is my interpretation of adult status at the age of 18 correct?

I believe she did leave a note, and her parents not turning the note over to the police shows deception and that their account of events and promises of "love' cannot be relied upon.

"Asked what her father, Mohamed Bary, told her, she replied, "He said he would kill me. Or he'd have me sent back to Sri Lanka where they'd put me in the asylum."

She said she left a note for her parents before she ran away: "I said, 'I refuse to deny Jesus. He is my Lord and Savior. I pray you find his forgiveness and mercy, and I love you both dearly.' I wrote that, but they never showed it to the police officers."

Bary warned that if she is forced to return to her family in Ohio, she will die "within a week."

Friday August 21, 2009, 11:32 am
Thanks Nancy.. Noted and I will be passing this on...

Friday August 21, 2009, 11:34 am
You are welcom but Linda posted the article before I did.


Hey Linda, I used to have a cat that looked just like that.

Friday August 21, 2009, 11:36 am
BTW....they will be making their decision very soon. Everybody please make a call or fax.

Friday August 21, 2009, 11:57 am
Noted & calling as soon as I hit enter!

Friday August 21, 2009, 1:35 pm
Thanks Linda and thanks Nancy for the forward.

I also posted this in the group The Sentinel's Watch under the Religious Extremism thread.

Friday August 21, 2009, 2:16 pm
This just in from Foxnews.
She will be returned to Ohio.It is unclear if she will be in the State's custody or her family.

Christians pray & others mediate that nothing happens to her.

Lady L

Friday August 21, 2009, 2:32 pm
I AM A BIG FAT LIAR!
Actually just skimmed instead of read so I misunderstood.Durr!My bad!

Fox announces that Judge rules in favor of teen. Girl will stay in Florida for the time being.

Blessings all and keep praying that this has a happy ending.
Everybody have a blessed weekend,
Lady L

Friday August 21, 2009, 2:39 pm
She is safe than God until next month and I have to beleive you folks helped her ... At 17 surely she is old enough to decide where she wants to be ... she should not be sent back to that family ....

Friday August 21, 2009, 2:47 pm
THANKS LL

And thank everyone who made a plea. I will keep you posted on this issue.

Friday August 21, 2009, 11:13 pm
Nancy, thanks much for sending this info. to me. I'm very sorry I hadn't heard about it earlier. I immediately sent a letter to Governor Crist. What bothers me most is the fact that they all want to rush and make a decision on this case without having all the facts. There are plenty of abuse and neglect cases that go unanswered for for longer periods of time than this. Considering the circumstances with this case, there is no reason they cannot choose to leave this young woman exactly where she is until this can be further investigated. Also, she is plenty old enough to decide where it is she wants to be. Heck...she could even choose to 'divorce' her parents with a good lawyer!! If Fathima gets a hold of any of these messages...my home is always open to you! And you won't have to worry about your father touching one hair on your head while under MY roof!!!!

Come on Care2 people...it takes a village to raise a child...and it takes the same to teach some parents they cannot treat their children like animals or property, no matter what their religion.

Friday August 21, 2009, 11:53 pm
My thoughts are with this beautiful young girl - hoping for the right decision to let her be what she wishes to be - how can they send her back - she will most definitely be murdered if made to return to her homeland.
Thank you Linda for the post. Brightest Blessings.

Saturday August 22, 2009, 4:10 pm
thank you nancy and linda...my daughter and i saw this on fox yesterday morning and immediately called the govs' office here in fla. we were both very happy to hear that she will stay in fla. for the time being. islam/sharia law/beliefs set up very dangerous mandates, not only for this young girl but for many, including the free world, reading the Qur'an is an education of itself besides understanding the newer sharia laws. the agenda of these believers is frightening enough and "all of it/of them must be stopped here in America!!! take care! O.f.~*
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Saturday August 22, 2009, 7:48 pm
Ohhh, HALLELUJAH! She stay's in the ray's of our (and her) Lord's light until the 'power's that be' can also see it! This is why they call it Faith...you cannot see it but..you know it is there and working in infinite ways!!

Please keep us posted.

Saturday August 22, 2009, 7:52 pm
$top thi$ di$gu$ting non$en$e right now! Y'all know better ... of.... if ya didn't graduate $chool you $hould know better!

Saturday August 22, 2009, 8:05 pm
Blue Bunting...what ARE you talking about?

Sunday August 23, 2009, 4:29 am
Nancy, thanks again for notifying me about this... I emailed somw folks and calls in the LEO community... it appears there is a decent American judge and not some Legi$lating type courted by certain left Lobbyi$t$ like the poor Cuban boys case!!

I'm having to take care with my own muslim problems in my sector... Take Care!!

Sunday August 23, 2009, 6:26 am
Hi guys=)
I love all the responses that Nancy story is getting.And I am sooo very glad that Fahtima will be safe util her b-day,then she will have the freedom to decided what SHE wants to do.

But I want to say something.And I know that I will probably upset some here.
We must NOT make this about Islam vs Christianity.
For me.That is not what this is about.
This about the Teachers and the Stae of Ohio doing what many of them do in many States.
Which is IGNORE child abuse and then placing an abused child BACK with the abusive parent.
It is a problem we have all seen before.And it is a HUGE problem with the child welfare system.
One that needs to be fixed.
Islam actually teaches peace,tolerance, and acceptance of others.
I suggest to any of you trying to grasps the difference in the Quran and Sharia & Fatwa laws.
To please look to the teachings of Haj Targey in the UK.A wonderful Iman trying desperately to teach Islam in it's orginal intent.He has a price on his head for being the first Iman to allow a woman to lead prayer.
Awesome!Please check him out.
As a Christian and a parent.I know that if this had been a Christian child to convert to Islam the parents would be outraged.And be very upset just the same as her parents are.
Let's not kid ourselves about it.
We ALL know it is true.
We woould force our children not to practice it because we did not agree with it or understand it.
This happens with other religious beliefs.
So with that said the Christian pastor who baptized her should NOT have done so without the permission of her parents or should have waited until she was of age to do so.
We know as Christian parents how upset and betrayed we would be if an Iman took the conversion of our children without our permission.

Islam has been twisted,as many religions,even Christianity, have been in the past to represent something it is not.
And we must look at this not from a religious point of view,because this MORE cultural not religious,the practice of honor killings.
As Christians we can not condemn the Muslims for the failure of their leaders to teach correctly or even the examples that many bad Muslims have set.
For then we open ourselves up to the condemntion.We have bad Christians that do bad things and every one blames ALL christians for what they have done.
This needs to stop.

To me,and this is just me belief,is that this is a clear case of child abuse with a real threat on her life due to cultural differences not religious ones.
I hope and I pray for her safety and for the true Islam to come to light for the sake of Muslims.

Sunday August 23, 2009, 7:07 am
Linda posted this before I did. I just forwarded to all you guys.

Sunday August 23, 2009, 7:45 am
Evidence that her father was planning to take her our of the country.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/08/was-rifqa-barys-father-planning-on-fleeing-the-country-with-his-threatened-daughter.html


Mohamed Bary, Rifqa Bary's father, is a jeweler. His company is Bary Gems, of Columbus (apparently near Gahanna, OH). According to very recent documentation, Muhammad Bary dissolved his business on July 29,2009 - after Rifqa ran for her life (fearing an honor killing for her apostasy) and was discovered in Florida.

He moved the business from New York to Columbus in 2004. He dissolved it on July 29, 2009 the same time he filed a missing persons report on Rifqa. Rifqa's story hit the papers August 3rd (go here).

And this was not insignificant business (click here for Dunn and Bradstreet report). Bary had over 20 employees and was doing $100,000-350,000 a year in sales. That's a lot to give up .... why? He obviously did not expect Rifqa to prevail in Florida court. Like all the pundits, he expected that Rifqa would have to go back to Ohio.

Sunday August 23, 2009, 7:47 am
Sorry, I don't know how to make a hyperlink here.

Check out my new profile pic. Like it? I also changed to my initials because my hubby didn't like me using my name. Gotta make the hubby happy :)

Sunday August 23, 2009, 11:22 am
Thanks for clarifying 'NE L.'...I was getting a bit confused for a second there...LOL.

That is a very interesting yet, IMPORTANT piece of information in this entire situation. Not that I will be the one to make speculations here but, I'm sure the authorities will be looking into that aspect of the case as well. I think Lady Libertarian made a very valid point. One of the most important pieces to this case is what is LACKING in the child welfare system. And it is not only in the State of Ohio, this is happening everywhere. The difference here is that this young lady is old enough to have a voice and there were people in contact with her that listened. Imagine all the babies, toddlers, and elementary aged childen who go unheard and unbelieved. I guarantee you there are many out there who go to school with bruises, burns, broken bones, etc. where the adults who see them every day take no notice or...they fall through the cracks of the system.This, in and of itself, infuriates me! I have been where Fathima is...I admire and applaud her courage to stand up to not only a parent but an entire religious system that she has been with her entire life. She is and, can be, a true inspiration to other young women of her culture. She can also be a sounding board for our own American child welfare system. One in which President Obama could stand to do some major over-hauling on! BTW...I'm still confused...what is Blue Bunting talking about????

Sunday August 23, 2009, 11:28 am
Thanks for clearing that up NE.I don't blame your hubby for wanting to protect you.
That is why I don't post my name or pics.

Have a good one=)

Sunday August 23, 2009, 3:59 pm
I have no idea. I never understand her.

Sunday August 23, 2009, 7:45 pm
Heard about the case on WND, called last week, just checked my mail here. Thank you all, will be calling or writing again if need be.

Monday August 24, 2009, 7:23 am
Whose knows what Blue was talking about...it was probably another "the RepubliCON$ are evil" thing.
Which has nothing to do with the safety of a young person.
LOL!

Monday August 24, 2009, 7:35 am
O-kayyy, Gotchya...thought I was miss'in somethin there...
LOL!!

Monday August 24, 2009, 10:56 am
http://us.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/dc/launch?.gx=1&.rand=1kbtq49nt1u4c

Tuesday August 25, 2009, 6:43 am
Here is an articel I found this morning that addresses how the lame street media handled this issue.

http://www.newsmax.com/pamela_geller/rifqa_barry_orlando_ohio/2009/08/24/251576.html

Tuesday August 25, 2009, 8:43 pm
All I can say to that is; "You Go Girl!" to Ms. Pamela Geller. I know of the Atlas Shrugs website (where she is the editor and publisher) and they are quite active throughout the educational community.

Some people never cease to amaze me, in this case, meaning, 'columnist' Mike Thomas. He just gives credence to the reason why so many young men and women DON'T speak to adults about important issue's they are having and WHY they say 'adults just don't understand'....idiot!

Tuesday August 25, 2009, 8:51 pm
Mary check out this story

http://www.care2.com/news/member/714476182/1231197

Friday August 28, 2009, 12:01 am
sorry, I am late on this....how did it turn out? story noted