Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:00 pm
What else is new? Some of the wealthy are so gr$$dy they stink up the world scene with their obscene rhetoric about the least of these who often go to bed hungry..or worse yet, under a cardboard box under a bridge somewhere.

Many are homeless Veterans. The new poor, That middle Class some legislators love to banter around. And children! Suffer unto me the little children so I may protect them from the gr$$d of the "White Collar Wealthy"

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:03 pm
Excerpt: "(The Root) -- The Romney-Ryan ticket suffers from pathological hypocrisy.
On Monday, President Obama made a rare appearance in the White House press-room and addressed false claims in a Mitt Romney campaign commercial that asserts Obama's administration is turning back the clock on the welfare reform of 1996 by doing away with the requirement that welfare recipients work after two years on assistance, with few exceptions. The ad refers to a recent memo from the Department of Health and Human Services offering states a waiver to the 1996 rules, but only if they develop plans that increase work opportunities by 20 percent.

Obama called Romney's claims "patently false," and the president is supported by the New York Times and the Washington Post, both of which revealed that Republicans actually requested the waiver. In fact, Romney was among several Republican governors who signed a letter in 2005 asking for more flexibility.

Yes. Romney is now attacking the president for granting a request that Romney himself made. Are pigs flying? Has hell frozen over?

This flair for consistently being inconsistent is not new for Romney. And it turns out that his reportedly brave choice of running mate shares this problematic personality flaw.

In 2010 the current Republican vice presidential candidate, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, publicly objected to what he called "the discredited economic playbook of borrow-and-spend Keynesian policies." Ryan was referring to President Obama's stimulus package, but a little fact-checking shows that Ryan supported similar measures under President George W. Bush after the Sept. 11 attacks." More at link...

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:04 pm
In 2005, Romney Supported Waivers He Now Claims Will ‘Undermine’ Welfare Reform

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/18/542121/romney-walfare-waivers-2005/?mobile=nc

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:06 pm
Those stinky old rich people provide the jobs in our country and health benefits not to mention 401k and profit sharing. Those SOB's!! How dare they receive tax breaks to grow their businesses, invent new products and hire new employees!!!

Veterans are homeless for different reasons. There are homeless people who aren't veterans so what is their excuse? There are homeless people who chose hard drugs and alcohol and screwed up their lives. There are some homeless people who simply don't want to work and pay taxes. For some homeless people we have programs in place paid for by the taxpayers such as government subsidized housing, medicaid, food stamps, education grants, daycare, and a chance to get back on their feet again.

Companies today are sensitive to the veterans who are now back after spending years in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm wondering why Obama doesn't put them to work guarding our borders? Why wouldn't Obama do that? That would take care of millions of vets and provide an income for their families.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:19 pm
Explaining Socialism To A Republican
Forget the video, not working but read the explanation needed to educate a Republican.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09/01/explaining-socialism-to-a-republican/

Excerpt: "So next time you hear the word “socialism” and “spreading the wealth” in the same breath, understand that this is a serious misconception.

Social programs require tax money and your taxes may be higher. But as you can see everyone benefits because other costs go down and, in the long run, you get to keep more of your hard earned cash!

Democratic Socialism does NOT mean taking from the rich and giving to the poor. It works to benefit everyone so the rich can no longer take advantage of the poor and middle class.

Excerpt: " I was talking recently with a new friend who I’m just getting to know. She tends to be somewhat conservative, while I lean more toward the progressive side.

When our conversation drifted to politics, somehow the dreaded word “socialism” came up. My friend seemed totally shocked when I said “All socialism isn’t bad”. She became very serious and replied “So you want to take money away from the rich and give to the poor?” I smiled and said “No, not at all. Why do you think socialism means taking money from the rich and giving to the poor?

“Well it is, isn’t it?” was her reply.

I explained to her that I rather liked something called Democratic Socialism, just as Senator Bernie Sanders, talk show host Thom Hartman, and many other people do. Democratic Socialism consists of a democratic form of government with a mix of socialism and capitalism. I proceeded to explain to her the actual meaning terms “democracy” and “socialism”.

Democracy is a form of government in which all citizens take part. It is government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

Socialism is where we all put our resources together and work for the common good of us all and not just for our own benefit. In this sense, we are sharing the wealth within society.

Of course when people hear that term, “Share the wealth” they start screaming, “OMG you want to rob from the rich and give it all to the poor!” But that is NOT what Democratic Socialism means.

To a Democratic Socialist, sharing the wealth means pooling tax money together to design social programs that benefit ALL citizens of that country, city, state, etc.

The fire and police departments are both excellent examples of Democratic Socialism in America. Rather than leaving each individual responsible for protecting their own home from fire, everyone pools their money together, through taxes, to maintain a fire and police department. It’s operated under a non-profit status, and yes, your tax dollars pay for putting out other people’s fires. It would almost seem absurd to think of some corporation profiting from putting out fires. But it’s more efficient and far less expensive to have government run fire departments funded by tax dollars.

Similarly, public education is another social program in the USA. It benefits all of us to have a taxpayer supported, publicly run education system. Unfortunately, in America, the public education system ends with high school. Most of Europe now provides low cost or free college education for their citizens. This is because their citizens understand that an educated society is a safer, more productive and more prosperous society. Living in such a society, everyone benefits from public education." More at link...

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:25 pm
Sorry, but socialism is not for America. Anyway you choose to dress it up it still smells bad. If you want socialism you need to move to another country and guess what YOU will find? You will find that their citizens are paying well over 50% of their income to support other people. Is that okay with you? Then good, pick a country. It won't happen in America. We have a Constitution and we are a Republic. We are personal responsibility Americans and we have social programs in place for those who are down and out and need a temporary hand UP and not a lifetime of government help.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:34 pm
Key word TAX PAYERS..Your words.. "paid for by the taxpayers such as government subsidized housing, medicaid, food stamps, education grants, daycare, and a chance to get back on their feet again."

It's the wealthy Diane. they are NOT paying their fair share. What is so hard to digest about this in your face blatant truth? The well heeled get welfare and they Don't, I repeat, Don't pay their fair share.

They receive bail outs in the billions, some research says trillions (Federal Reserve) , and scream NO to a stimulus program for the rest of the nations people.

But what many of the wealthy have done, via corporate gr$$d, and continue to do, is scam the nation and rip US off with inferior products, etc.,!

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:45 pm
Barbara, 53% of Americans pay no tax at all. So, who do you think pays the lion's share of the taxes? The wealthy. If not the wealthy then who?

I feel your pain. I really do. However, I'm worried about your limited information on what the real cause of our economic problems are....the subprime mortgage debacle initiated by Jimmy Carter and enhanced by Bill Clinton...the liberals...the bleeding hearts who feel that every single American should have the same things in life whether they earn them or not. That is the problem. We are a personal responsibility country and we, as the taxpayers, believe in helping those who are down and out but we aren't in the business of supporting these people for the rest of their lives, unless, of course, they are disabled and unable to work. Look at Greece. Look at Italy, Spain and Portugal and beyond that look at the socialist countries where the taxes are well over 50% on their salaries to take care of those who aren't pulling their weight.

The wealthy in our country provide the jobs for people like us. They produce the newest products for the world to buy and enjoy. When we, as a country, overtax them, they outsource because like all companies they have a profit margin, a five year plan, that they must meet to meet their obligations.

The subprime mortgage debacle was the catalyst that drove the stake into America's economy. And, yes, there was greed among the investment companies who went into the subprime mortgage lending business to get in on the profits. Know who to blame....start with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton....and you will end there.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 3:52 pm
Jesus, for all intents and purposes was a socialist, better yet he made it perfectly clear for even the simple minded to understand. if you have one piece of bread then you share it.

"In so much as ye have done it unto the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto Me.

You sound angry at those who fall on bad times Diane and you lump the least of these into one bag. WRONG!!!

No one is asking the wealthy to become the new poor. Though it might give them a much needed wake up call. The disease of insatiable gr$$d is what's taking this nation down! Simple as that..

Sunday September 16, 2012, 4:18 pm
thanks

Sunday September 16, 2012, 4:31 pm
Diana O. still is spouting her usual bullpuckey with no references to back up her statements. DIANE POST YOUR SOURCES...CREDIBLE ONES PLEASE. I suppose Diane thinks our parents' generation lived in a socialist country...you know back when America was # 1 in education, and the middle class was thriving, and the 1% percent were paying a helluva lot more in taxes when they were contributing members of society. You know....the era they always pine for.

It's time for the 1% to pay back for making money off the back of the people they employ Diane. No more entitlements for the nation's top-teatsuckers, the lazy-*ssed rich. They've teat-sucked off the poor and middle class for far too long. No Socialism for the rich only. Maybe Diane O. is one of them since she is so adamant to maintain and protect her lifestyle.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 4:34 pm
Diane, perhaps you should take a history lesson and learn the true meaning of SocialIsm. We are about to see that CapitalISM...now CorporatISM has the potential to be the worst ISM of them all. Greedmongers will do anything for the love of Money and maintaining their power and control. Their is good and bad socialism, just like there is good and bad Capitalism.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 4:41 pm
Roseann! I love the way you put it together. Thank you.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 5:17 pm
You know nothing about me nor where I've been and what I know about this issue Diane, so please don't Dare stand in judgment of my understanding. I don't need you to give me a lesson in America's poor verses "America's Gr$$dy Sector..

I know what it's like to be the employer!. Done that.. I also know what it's like to be an employee. Done that! You come across like someone in the insurance field.. Patronizing!!

What's clouding important issues facing the nation today and bringing to ruin this Republic are off hand Judgment calls fueled by the masters of the gr$$dy sector. Nothing in life is cut and dry! Peoples lives are not to be thrown away with the bath water.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 5:17 pm
You talk about this republic and it's responsibilities,. What about Citizens United? Was that a responsible move?

NO! But it WAS a Republican move Diane!

Sunday September 16, 2012, 7:05 pm
Diane O. is harping on the GOP talking point that the 1% are the job creators and you can't tax the job creators. Well Diane....They've had almost 11 years of Bush Tax Cuts now...so where are the jobs? Even John Boehner said, all that had to happen was to extend the Tax Cuts and the job creators would start creating jobs. Instead, from the Right I see Right to Work for Less states, and still outsourcing jobs to foreign countries to fatten their bottom line...ot perhaps...Diane's bottom line.

Stop peddling the job creator crap and start being grateful for the people working for the job creators. Let's face it, the Job Creators don't have sh*t without labor to do the job.

Sunday September 16, 2012, 8:59 pm
"Stop peddling the job creator crap and start being grateful for the people working for the job creators. Let's face it, the Job Creators don't have sh*t without labor to do the job. "
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The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, One Economy at a Time

http://www.care2.com/news/member/101960828/3453540

Monday September 17, 2012, 4:56 pm
Sure place the homeless Veterans at our borders to be shot at some more after serving in Iraq a lied into war by, omg a Republican. Sold another bill of goods we were.

I agree Roseann, where are the jobs if they were the job creators. Oh yes, I forgot overseas.

53% don't pay taxes, well my sources say 49%, but ok, we won't squabble on a few percentage points. Why do they not pay taxes, well that is because they are too poor to pay any. One half of the population in this Country is liiving at or below the poverty line, due to depressed wages, can't find a job that all these so called job creators have made (more like destroyed), are disabled, or Elderly.

Yes, those who are not being asked to pay the Federal taxes are poor Elderly.......who are already trying to figure out how to heat their homes, buy medications, and feed themselves. But I suppose we should ask for more taxes from them. We can't expect the ones with mansions, numerous cars, dancing horses, vacation homes, jets so on and so forth to pay more, now can we. Isn't enough they have off shore accounts in the Cayman Islands and Swiss Banks.

The poor also pay taxes in excise tax, property tax, gasoline tax, county taxes, State taxes, so on and so forth so they pay taxes. Maybe if the Wal-Marts would pay their help, you know the 6 heirs that own as much in weatlth as the bottom 42% of this Country. No we wouldn't want them to have to pay more taxes, nor give their employees a living wage so they could be in an income bracket to afford to pay taxes.

Go read some more Ayn Rand........is what those who spit upon the poor, disabled, and elders feel. Horray for me, the poor, the people who help the poor, the disabled, children from poor familes and Elders can all go to hell per an Ayn Rand thought process.

Oh yes, those quick sound bites sound nice don't they, "job creators" "53% get a free ride (forgetting it was the backs of the laborers that built this Country, paved those roads, dug those ditches, ran the electric wiring, have fought the wars, so on and so forth) but those sound bites only tell half the story, not the full sorry, and for the less educated as to how things work to many fall right into those half truth sound bites.

Whenever you hear politicians or Tea Partiers dividing up the world between "producers" or so called job creators and "collectivism," or the people just know that those ideas and words more likely than not are derived from the deranged mind of a serial-killer groupie, named Ayn Rand, that many on the right follow.

When you see them taking their razor blades to the last remaining programs protecting the middle class from total abject destitution -- Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid -- and bragging about how they are slashing these programs for "moral" reasons, just remember Ayn's morality and who inspired them.

Monday September 17, 2012, 4:57 pm
Sure place the homeless Veterans at our borders to be shot at some more after serving in Iraq a lied into war by, omg a Republican. Sold another bill of goods we were.

I agree Roseann, where are the jobs if they were the job creators. Oh yes, I forgot overseas.

53% don't pay taxes, well my sources say 49%, but ok, we won't squabble on a few percentage points. Why do they not pay taxes, well that is because they are too poor to pay any. One half of the population in this Country is liiving at or below the poverty line, due to depressed wages, can't find a job that all these so called job creators have made (more like destroyed), are disabled, or Elderly.

Yes, those who are not being asked to pay the Federal taxes are poor Elderly.......who are already trying to figure out how to heat their homes, buy medications, and feed themselves. But I suppose we should ask for more taxes from them. We can't expect the ones with mansions, numerous cars, dancing horses, vacation homes, jets so on and so forth to pay more, now can we. Isn't enough they have off shore accounts in the Cayman Islands and Swiss Banks.

The poor also pay taxes in excise tax, property tax, gasoline tax, county taxes, State taxes, so on and so forth so they pay taxes. Maybe if the Wal-Marts would pay their help, you know the 6 heirs that own as much in weatlth as the bottom 42% of this Country. No we wouldn't want them to have to pay more taxes, nor give their employees a living wage so they could be in an income bracket to afford to pay taxes.

Go read some more Ayn Rand........is what those who spit upon the poor, disabled, and elders feel. Horray for me, the poor, the people who help the poor, the disabled, children from poor familes and Elders can all go to hell per an Ayn Rand thought process.

Oh yes, those quick sound bites sound nice don't they, "job creators" "53% get a free ride (forgetting it was the backs of the laborers that built this Country, paved those roads, dug those ditches, ran the electric wiring, have fought the wars, so on and so forth) but those sound bites only tell half the story, not the full sorry, and for the less educated as to how things work to many fall right into those half truth sound bites.

Whenever you hear politicians or Tea Partiers dividing up the world between "producers" or so called job creators and "collectivism," or the people just know that those ideas and words more likely than not are derived from the deranged mind of a serial-killer groupie, named Ayn Rand, that many on the right follow.

When you see them taking their razor blades to the last remaining programs protecting the middle class from total abject destitution -- Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid -- and bragging about how they are slashing these programs for "moral" reasons, just remember Ayn's morality and who inspired them.

Monday September 17, 2012, 8:28 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Dandelion because you have done so within the last week.

Monday September 17, 2012, 8:43 pm
Why is it ever OK to give tax breaks to the rich and subsidies for large corporations, while refusing any support the poor?

Let's not forget that the GOPs' heroine, high priestess of ramped greed Ayn Rand herself, opposed of social spending publicly, while secretly she didn't mind to collect it.

Ayn Rand Railed Against Government Benefits, But Grabbed Social Security and Medicare When She Needed Them

Tuesday September 18, 2012, 3:15 am
No one is refusing help for the poor. Where in the world did you get that information? We have more Americans on government handouts today than ever before. Obama has ramped up food stamps to an historic level.

Tuesday September 18, 2012, 9:41 am
We have the worse economy since the Great Depression so of course there would be more people on Food Stamps now, there are more people who are hurting financially. Doesn't seem to be much to add that together. Horrible ecomony more people in bad economic situatons.

I am not an Obama lover, in fact I've turned my back to BOTH Parties and will be voting 3rd Party here. I don't think either Party has done our Country and it's people Justice. Hence I'm voting for the Justice Party. But I do know that George Bush was the first President ever to go to war without having paid for it. You can't lower the taxes at the same time have two major wars going on. That was not started under Obama, he was left a big mess to deal with.

That people are hurting under this mess that was created by the Corporations with the Republicans help and the Democrats failure to stand up to it or going along too often like in the case of Glass-Steagal, Clinton signing in a Republican want, shouldn't mean that the people who had no control over matters should have to suffer any more than they have for it. Many lives have been destroyed, due to no fault of their own.

My goodness, I'm sorry if more Food Stamps are required while this economy is still sluggish, we are talking FOOD here. Would it be better to have millions of children going even more hungry than they are now? Even with Food Stamps it is hard to feed a growing child properly, as it breaks down to only $1.48 per meal. Food, is not a luxury.

Why don't I see the same anger thrown at those who Speculate the food prices on Wall Street, making fortunes at the expense of the poor people all around the world, why isn't there anger at NAFTA or the Wall Street gamblers and banksters that have destroyed jobs that many people use to have, where is the anger that due to no fault of their own people have been tossed out of jobs? That use to feed their families?

And why don't the Wal-Marts pay their workers a "living wage" so even when they work FULL time their wages are still so low they qualifty for Food Stamps. Where is the anger at the subsidizing the Wal-Marts? When they pay a full time worker so low that they are still considered poor there is something wrong with that. Pay people enough who ARE working so they don't need Food Stamps.

Yes, we do feel that there are many who want to refuse help for the poor, I hear it out of their mouths on the TV, on radio, written on paper, even here on Care2, that should be about CARING. For those who are at the low end of the economic rung or has worked all their lives, was middle class and to be thrown out on their ear due to speculators and gamblers, thoughtless or planned actions that have destroyed so many lives, they certainly FEEL they are being attacked.

I've worked as a Social Worker for many many years, I've seen how hard it is for people, not all had an even start to begin with, and when you are poor, you have no idea how it is to try to climb out of being there. It is a day to day struggle, that one thing that someone with money could handle and deal with becomes a mountain for a poor person or the working poor to overcome.

Those who have had comfortable lives most their life, perhaps have a good social network, have family support, good educations, a better start in life, have no idea how hard it is. I know a lot of hard working, motivated people, with good hearts, and very giving of themselves, but just can't make it in the way this system is set up, it is rigged, it has been rigged. The best time for the people to allow themselves to make the moves forward was between 1945 and 1975 and since then it has eroded, making it harder and harder and harder in many areas.

If you've never been there, at the bottom or near bottom economically you have no clue how truly hard it is. And I am sick and tired of people wanting to continue to pull the rug out from under these hurting human beings legs. It is hard enough to be there without the slanderous comments that are spoken by some on the television and radio. This has become a very HEARTLESS......society. Shameful it is, truly shameful.

Tuesday September 18, 2012, 1:51 pm
"Obama has ramped up food stamps to an historic level."

No Diane. The new poor, the Middle class, home foreclosures, illnesses that broke families bank accounts, etc., caused this food stamp influx and they are the new poor! the middle class got there with a great deal of help from Wall Street and Washington crooks. Not to forget wars! 11 years in Afghanistan. I don't know where you've been but you're on the wrong page..Diane.

Many hard working American families, our returning soldiers as well, are hemorrhaging their life source because of the ignorance of some fools and or those who serve gr$$d masters.

Tuesday September 18, 2012, 2:14 pm
Dandelion my deep and loving, understanding friend. Like Bernie Sanders "We" could use many more like you my friend. Unless one has been there, felt the sting of betrayal; Picked themselves up so many time that their life show signs of the wear and tear on body and soul, they "Dare" NOT stand in judgment like a pack of wolves after a kill.

And this in no way is a slight on the 4 legged critter, wolf families. At least they have an honor system. America has a system that's so broken it's outlandish and would see our founding fathers, like Jefferson, saying, every 20 years I told you what you should do. Did you? Now look what's befallen this nation! I warned you..

So too did Ike. King saw it coming! He took a bullet for his efforts. Did you listen? JFK did as well. Where's the outrage? Bernie Sanders is airing outrage. Are you listening.. The American People Are Angry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y-u0UnKZ_U&feature=youtu.be

The sounds of a nation under attack should have gone off when "We" allowed the Patriot act, Homeland Security and FISA to invade this nation. The bells of dissent rang for a while, then, it was business as usual. But now "We" have the National Defense Authorization Act..Our Supreme Court gave US GWB and Citizens United!

Wake up before the shock waves hit you where you think you're safe. Wall Street & Washington corruption is so out of control; It now feeds on itself like a contagious incurable "Blood Sucking" disease.

Tuesday September 18, 2012, 4:35 pm
I see Diane O, is present and spouting the same old unsubstantiated and false information. Unfortunately Diane has not opinions of her own, only those those provided by the declining Romney campaign.

Barbara, I would suggest Diane is more of a used car salesperson, since she is most certainly trying to sell the "Lemon Lot" special - Romney!